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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    Lots of countries are now very hard at work, comparing their military resources against those of Ukraine. Nothing wrong with that, but look into the reasoning and expectations of it

    They are looking at their lack of resources and weaknesses, by very closely monitoring how Ukraine is being defeated hour by hour. Then they will have to look for protection against finding themselves in that same scenario

    Then the US military complex will come and offer solutions

    Remember how that works?

    0. Provoke a crisis that no one will ever write on the history books
    1. Go in and destroy the country
    2. Blame someone else
    3. Offer help and solutions
    4. Profit...

    ETA: The US is very closely looking into every movement of Russia's army, so as to build an updated plan of action against our army. This is well known, they want to observe all tactics used, plus how logistics work and figure out plans to counter it

    Ukraine is just a sacrificial pawn in all ways you can look at it. Economical, political, military, historical, and plenty more. They just can't do anything about it anymore



    Who happens to be Mr Kite on this one play?
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    "Chinese people have been Cheering on this invasion online, mocking Ukraine and praising Russia, and the CCP wants this.." Report about chinese reactions of Chinese people in China & Ukraine on the war--2/3/22-- 18 minutes.--

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    Some people are saying "What's next, burning books?".

    No, it already happened. Don't be mistaken, the banning of all RT and related channels is the modern version of "burning books"

    The books are burning already

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    Quote Posted by gini (here)
    "Chinese people have been Cheering on this invasion online, mocking Ukraine and praising Russia, and the CCP wants this.." Report about chinese reactions of Chinese people in China & Ukraine on the war--2/3/22-- 18 minutes.--
    I would love to agree with their sentiment, except people are dying terrible deaths, and i will never smile just because someone died and was "from the other side". I hope those people get to understand that some time in their lives, without having to experience it themselves
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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    Watch this video and please tell me what you hear at second 0:11 when the word "Russia" is spoken by Nicolas Maduro while receiving the Russian ambassador



    Do you hear censoring of that "Russian" word just like i do? What is youtube doing? lol

    This video is from RT so it's probably blocked in your country, or not. I don't know



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    LIVE STREAMS:

    Ukraine Live Camera - Multiple View Points


    View Of Kyiv, Odessa, Kharkiv and Lviv
    You Can't Talk and Listen at the Same Time

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    "Journalists" who will never see battle are the most idiotic persons in the entire planet, except for politicians, but one leads to another and they are like a giant human centipede anyways

    So much bravado for an idiot that could not last 5 minutes in a real war zone, fool

    Richard Medhurst calls it as it is
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    Quote Posted by gini (here)
    "Chinese people have been Cheering on this invasion online, mocking Ukraine and praising Russia, and the CCP wants this.." Report about chinese reactions of Chinese people in China & Ukraine on the war--2/3/22-- 18 minutes.--
    interesting, just the opposite of many on facebook putting stupid meme like sentences "pray for Ukraine", "We are all together" and all the emotional BS bla bla bla

    for now just observing the fabricated ****storm.
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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    Especially the Brits should take an interest in the topic discussed, it'll directly influence Ye.

    Interesting vid, at the end (st 14.30mins or so) he perfectly sums up Neo Liberalism and the state we're in.

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    Quote Posted by 9ideon (here)
    Especially the Brits should take an interest in the topic discussed, it'll directly influence Ye.

    Interesting vid, at the end (st 14.30mins or so) he perfectly sums up Neo Liberalism and the state we're in.

    Starmer is travesty of a (especially so being Labour) politician, even his whinny smarmy speaking voice grates my nerves...Albeit, I do loathe most of the members of Parliament but he's right up there with rest of the self serving, uncaring NWO agenda politicians

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    Russia's strategy in Ukraine follows Syria model

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    "You can't punish a criminal if you fear his crime, because you have committed the same before"

    Think fast and think smart guys

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    Quote Posted by Malisa (here)
    Don't be mistaken, the banning of all RT and related channels is the modern version of "burning books"
    It is, but, RT won't bite hard enough.


    I'm able to get to Sputnik, but, I think, a lot of sites are just having large traffic and timing us out in some cases.

    Russian armed forces have nearly completed the demolition of military infrastructure in Ukraine, and the special military operation was going according to the plan.


    There are some 1,500 Indian students at one of the universities and those things actually are sensitive issues:


    India is in search of efficient tools to skirt around the latest penalties imposed on Russia over the conflict in Ukraine, as New Delhi looks to keep trade with Moscow going, Indian media reports.

    Russia will not forget London cooperation with nationalists in Ukraine and the Kiev regime, the supply of weapons that are used against the military of the Russian Federation – Russian Foreign Ministry.




    It may not have been obvious but The Saker is Russian which, on top of being a good independent blog to begin with, is tied a little closer to all of this and he says:


    As somebody who had access to classified info during the war against the Serbian nation, I can attest that even if the facts on the ground unambiguously prove the opposite, the western PSYOPs and their presstitutes don’t care one bit and, frankly, neither do those who voluntarily listen to, or read, the constant stream of vomit spewed by the so called “free and democratic press”.






    Can someone look at that and tell me with a straight face that there is such a thing as a Ukranian military and a nation able to assert its will?

    The thing in the upper left that we can't read might come to be known as "a gift to Poland".

    The only other thing on it is a bunch of non-state militias whose best bet is to hide in the cities.

    Half of the world's neon, argon, and xenon, is not listed, but it comes from there, along with wheat and a whole bunch of coal that Russia really does not need.

    The only way the U. S. can regain its #1 superpower status now is to dominate Canada and Mexico. Two countries. They have to be defeated in two weeks, and not just by bombing them flat. In fact you have to avoid that because whatever you break, you have to fix.

    It is a terrible mindjob, in the wake of all this deadly vaccine for a safe disease. None of it winds up affecting me really. We still have a Russian where I work and nothing is said about germs and there is no weird social tension, people are relatively close, in fact I did not know it had barely opened before the worldwide shutdown and apparently we have skyrocketed the volume and especially for a thing with no street front or facing presence or any signage that I know of.

    I would guess out of the total number of people, I could probably find an emotional confrontation somewhere, but so far I have never come across anyone drumming this presstitute line or a lot of the other dumb stuff supposedly believed by followers of all those media companies who are leaving Russia due to the threat of prosecution. I know there must be a bunch of them out there, but, it's not like when everyone thought they hated Afghanistan. If anything, they hate the Chinese-or-Asians. I wish I didn't have to say that, but, the germ thing palpably ignited that sentiment in some people. But that is physical, not political.


    For example, shortly after the Afghanistan "target" was selected, a group of students was arrested just for talking about it in their own apartment, only a few miles from where I lived.

    I don't know how bad it may be, but, I can pretty much promise there is not that level of distortion going on.

    The thing they have now where social media will get you kicked out of your career and so forth is alien to me. I have no idea about those sorts of things. The things I have seen recently, lead me to the conclusion that, if anyone thought that our society was something to be proud of or somehow fit or in any way superior to some kind of standard, that no, overall, it is extraordinarily sick, weak, and stupid. It can't. That is kind of my inside story which I think matches the inside stories of people like the late Andre Vitchek. Those who watched the times after the so-called Iron Curtain with many changes for the worse that started happening. I did not know that it is mainly Germany and that Angela Merkel calls her system Liberal Democracy, but, in a poll, 86% of the Bulgarians said they would rather be rid of it and have their old system back. What they are seeing happen is just how it always has been here.

    I did not understand Putin for a long time because I thought he was talking in slogans, but, he is right. There is a bad influence inside that system that a country such as Russia is free to refuse.
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    https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/sta...VlXNaXWwAkaj9g





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    I received this from a Slovak friend - translated from Slovak - not too sure on the veracity of the statement.


    Vladimir Vladimirovich P U T I N

    President of the Russian Federation

    A call for peace !

    European people, we really want III. a world war?

    Fellow citizens of Europe! "Your" politicians want to prove how useful they are for EU, NATO and USA. They expect that their "hard stance" towards Russia will take them higher in their careers, to even better-paid positions than they have today, so they overtake themselves in sanctions proposals, deployment of combat troops and in other expressions of uncontrolled aggression against Russia, thus the e day by day increases risk 3. world wars.

    They are so blinded by their own uncontrollable power and the vision of its further growth, that they expect Russia to retreat at the last-minute NATO pressure and not go to war.

    But where should Russia retreat? What should Russia do to make them satisfied? Should he give up his territories and hand them over voluntarily to anyone who shows interest in them?

    THE TRUE GOAL of all those, whether from Europe or beyond the ocean, who want to start a war, is the wealth of Russia. Should Russia give away its wealth to avoid war?

    Is he supposed to have his own population destroyed in Ukraine? Anyone who thinks sober knows that will never happen! Russia will never succumb to pressure, as it has never succumbed in the past, and it will not in the future.

    Today it is clear that the war in the plans of its creators should not end in Ukraine. The main target is Russia, but the war will take over all of Europe.

    What will provide higher profits for the US and what will get the US out of the debt crisis faster than war production? What more effectively eliminates the competition of the USA in the form of EU and Russia than the mutual murder of entire nations in Europe? What will help the US expand its sphere of influence more than post-war lending, exactly in the tested scenario used after 2. world war?

    World war conflict is real! In this context, think, which of your politicians told you that after Ukraine's acceptance to NATO and the EU's entry into the conflict, they will take your descendants to the Eastern Front, where they will very likely lay their lives?

    Which of the politicians will go down there with them?

    Which of the war mongers you pay royally with your taxes and which of their media accomplices told you that this will not only be an adventurous victorious expedition to the east, but that it will end up as 3. a world war for the possible use of nuclear weapons?

    Who can predict the participation of China, which is an ally of Russia in this conflict?

    Who will evaluate the real strength of the US army, which so far has always fought only with a weaker opponent, after all Hitler was defeated mainly by the Russians! What do the war mongers actually rely on?

    One thing is for sure, there will be no winner in this war!

    Where will you hide from nuclear explosions?

    Do you have a pit deep enough and enough food to last 100 years before the radiation levels drop to a bearable rate? In what name should our children on the eastern front die on both warring sides, in what name should the family perish, in what name must cease to exist everything you know, in the name of what should this world burn? In the name of democracy?

    Where do you see democracy in what is happening in Ukraine? We only see a fascist government, army, violating international conventions and premeditated genocide of its own people, whose fault is only that they speak Russian and want independence in fascist Ukraine.

    And what about Europe? Can you imagine any nation in the EU gaining its independence the way Ukraine does? Has Ukraine not yet been independent that it is fighting for independence? Perhaps she had a government that the EU did not respect? Didn't Ukrainians have their national rights? The European Union has given up on its principles and has become an accomplice of genocide with its attitude. What can you expect from EU politicians, yourself, EU citizens, when your politicians so quickly and willingly demolish their own value foundations?

    Russians are a large, cultural and powerful nation, without which Europe as it is today would never have existed.

    RUSSIA IS NOT YOUR ENEMY, the enemy of every citizen of Europe are insatiable politicians who are preparing to destroy everything that is dear to everyone for their power and money.

    The question is, can we perhaps prevent the upcoming war with Russia, which politicians and bought media are pushing us into? Yes, we can!

    What can ordinary people do?

    When everyone small and weak do the same, it changes everything! It can be changed because it is a necessity!

    Boycott all politicians who are raising tensions calling for sanctions and intervention against Russia! Boycott on all levels, in all elections! Do not allow the evil they want to spread! Boycott Ukraine's entry to nato! Boycott media that undermines war as the only possible solution!

    Believe! Russians and Ukrainians are two wise nations who will find solutions.

    Don't be afraid!

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    This image below was on the Slovak Ministry of Defense of Defense website.
    Translation -
    Ministry of defense SR
    Slovak war reporters are today also in the Ukraine
    Reporters of ‘’alternative’’ media are siting at home
    Trust in traditional media


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    Quite remarkable image to use!

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    Our man in Ukraine, YouTube channel Gonzalo Lira AKA Coach Red Pill. Continues to update us from Ukraine, in this episode he talks about Zelinsky's puppet master.

    Coach Red Pill had a visit a few days ago from heavy Ukrainian goons at his apartment. Luckily he was outside having a cigarette when they arrived, the female receptionist managed to tell him to get out and run.
    He explains the situation in more detail in his video before this one.



    Edit. This is the previous video,

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    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...ng-no-fly-zone

    Quote Furious Zelensky Lashes Out At "Weak" NATO For Not Imposing No-Fly Zone


    BY TYLER DURDEN
    SUNDAY, MAR 06, 2022 - 09:40 AM

    A furious and beleaguered Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky skewered NATO for not doing more to intervene against Russia's military invasion of the country, on Friday saying the Western military alliance is "weak" and "confused" while continuing to urge a no-fly zone.

    "Unfortunately, today there is a complete impression that it is time to give a funeral repast for something else: security guarantees and promises, determination of alliances, values that seem to be dead for someone," Zelensky said after a NATO summit was held in Brussels, which saw Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg reiterate his position that "we are not part of this conflict." Zelensky responded:

    "The NATO summit took place today — weak summit, confused summit, summit which shows that not everyone considers the struggle for freedom to be Europe's No. 1 goal."




    He had started his comments by praising the bravery of Ukrainian fighters in the face of the Russian military onslaught. But he contrasted this with the refusal of NATO to send significant help.

    "Unfortunately, today there is a complete impression that it is time to give a funeral repast for something else: security guarantees and promises, determination of alliances, values that seem to be dead for someone," the Ukrainian leader said.

    "All the people who will die starting from this day will also die because of you. Because of your weakness, because of your disunity," Zelensky added. These were some of his harshest words yet aimed at NATO 'inaction' - despite hundreds of tons of weaponry pouring into Kiev from NATO backers, including Germany who recently did a U-turn on its weapons neutrality.

    A number of prominent US hawks have also been urging a no-fly zone or some kind of more muscular action on the part of Washington. But many others have rightly pointed out that a no-fly zone is simply a technical term that signifies waging direct war with Russia. It would not be a "limited" engagement over the skies of Ukraine given it would involving a direct shooting war between US and Russian forces.

    So far Joe Biden has vowed to the American public that there will be no American troops sent to fight Russia in Ukraine. He reiterated this firmly in Tuesday night's State of the Union address as well.

    American political Scientist John Mearsheimer more than a half-decade ago predicted the scenario that's playing out now...

    He said at the time in a public lecture: "What's going on here is that the West is leading Ukraine down the primrose path. And the end result is that Ukraine is going to get wrecked. And I believe that the policy that I'm advocating, which is neutralising Ukraine, and then building it up economically, and getting it out of the competition between Russia on one side, NATO on the other side is the best thing that could happen to the Ukrainians.

    "What we're doing is encouraging the Ukrainians to play tough with the Russians. We're encouraging, the Ukrainians to think that they will ultimately become part of the West, because we will ultimately defeat Putin, and we will ultimately get our way, time is on our side. And of course, the Ukrainians are playing along with this."

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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    • Ukraine Update | Frederick Kagan:
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    • How the War in Ukraine FAST-TRACKS the Great (Dystopian) Reset | Adam Curry:
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    A couple of observations here: Frederick Kagan (the first video above) knows a lot of Russian history, but has a very mainstream view. I clicked off of this after about 10 minutes.

    The second video (a Glenn Beck interview) is interesting (though long), and I think correctly ties the Great Reset (at least an economic one) with the current Ukraine situation. But Adam Curry has a very mainstream view re "climate change". I clicked off of this, too. An hour and a half was way too much to listen to it all.

    Important mod note:

    There are many videos being posted, some of them quite long. It really helps to add a summary of their content and potential significance or interest to members, to save people valuable personal time.

    Many people (myself included!) just DON'T have time to watch half a dozen hour-long videos a day. One has to filter and prioritize.

    So @John, please add descriptions (and personal comments, if any) to your video posts. Then that helps everyone.

    Sometimes you're posting a dozen or more videos a day on various threads, and it's often hard to tell what they're about, or how valuable they may be, without taking time to start watching them all.

    We need to help each other here as best we all can. THX.

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