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    "Originally posted on June 18th, 2010, the article “Biolab Opens in Ukraine” details how Obama, while serving as an Illinois Senator, helped negotiate a deal to build a level-3 bio-safety lab in the Ukrainian city of Odessa.

    The article, which also highlighted the work of former Senator Dick Lugar, was additionally included in Issue No. 818 of the United States Air Force (USAF) Counterproliferation Center’s Outreach Journal.

    “Lugar said plans for the facility began in 2005 when he and then-Senator Barack Obama entered a partnership with Ukrainian officials. Lugar and Obama also helped coordinate efforts between the U.S and Ukrainian researchers that year in an effort to study and help prevent avian flu,” explained author Tina Redlup."



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    Here's some more clarification on whats going on there , for a temporary fix they need to get fuel there for the generators. Yes lots of prayers , especially since there was so much effort to put a dome over this by 14 countries to contain this .

    RADIATION ALERT - EUROPE -- URGENT
    WORLD HAL TURNER 09 MARCH 2022 HITS: 4396



    UKRAINE STATE NUCLEAR PLANTS OPERATOR SAYS 750KW LINE BETWEEN CHERNOBYL AND KYIV HAS BEEN SEVERED.

    SAYS LACK OF POWER AT CHERNOBYL WILL PREVENT COOLING OF SPENT NUCLEAR FUEL

    UKRAINE'S ENERGOATOM SAYS LACK OF POWER AT CHERNOBYL RISKS SENDING RADIOACTIVE SUBSTANCES INTO AIR

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    Russia tells the US “we have found your biological weapons”

    https://rumble.com/vwxfgf-russia-tel...l-weapons.html





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    Just to put everyones minds at ease over Chernobyl;

    Quote Due to time elapsed since the 1986 Chornobyl accident, the heat load of the spent fuel storage pool and the volume of cooling water contained in the pool is sufficient to maintain effective heat removal without the need for electrical supply.

    Furthermore, the site has back-up emergency diesel generators available should there be a total loss of power.
    https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/pres...ion-in-ukraine


    The Russians have already probably airlifted fuel in by helicopter TBH
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    Anyone else low key hoping Russia somehow "win" here?

    I've been listening to this explanation by Putin about what's going on and he seems a lot more sincere than anyone I'm supposed to be rooting for.



    Doesn't seem like such an unreasonable guy to me.

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    Anyone else low key hoping Russia somehow "win" here?

    I've been listening to this explanation by Putin about what's going on and he seems a lot more sincere than anyone I'm supposed to be rooting for.



    Doesn't seem like such an unreasonable guy to me.
    Well kinda, he will win in the Ukraine, to which he has committed only 10% of his ground forces.

    The big question is; IS he working for the WEF still, despite the rhetoric & the books handed out to commanders that list the things going on here in the West that you would only expect David Icke or Alex Jones to say .

    He has been utterly honest on this situation, but he has been very brutal in the past with reporters etc, plus allied with China who's human rights record is abysmal ...

    The best hope is he sorts out Ukraine, & then the ramifications of sanctions, the facts about the bioweapon labs etc expose the criminals in power here in the West & something is done about it.
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    Quote Ukraine On Fire - Oliver Stone - 2016
    teamQ Published March 9, 2022 203 Views
    https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/sta...qa8P56zgjDTCrg





    Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/vubght
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    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)


    Quote Ukraine On Fire - Oliver Stone - 2016
    teamQ Published March 9, 2022 203 Views

    Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/vubght
    ~~~

    Unbelievable. It's a high-quality, professionally produced documentary about real, documented history. This is digital book-burning.

    As a backup to Rumble, here it is in the Avalon Library as well. I'd very highly recommend it.

    https://avalonlibrary.net/Ukraine_on_Fire.mp4

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    Ukraine. Across its eastern border is Russia and to its west-Europe. For centuries, it has been at the center of a tug-of-war between powers seeking to control its rich lands and access to the Black Sea. 2014's Maidan Massacre triggered a bloody uprising that ousted president Viktor Yanukovych and painted Russia as the perpetrator by Western media. But was it? "Ukraine on Fire" by Igor Lopatonok provides a historical perspective for the deep divisions in the region which lead to the 2004 Orange Revolution, 2014 uprisings, and the violent overthrow of democratically elected Yanukovych. Covered by Western media as a people's revolution, it was in fact a coup d'état scripted and staged by nationalist groups and the U.S. State Department. Investigative journalist Robert Parry reveals how U.S.-funded political NGOs and media companies have emerged

    Watch Oliver Stone’s Bombshell Ukraine Documentary Censored By YouTube



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    YouTube has deleted director Oliver Stone’s critically acclaimed documentary about the 2014 Ukraine coup d’état leading up to its current conflict with Russia.

    Stone’s 2017 documentary “Ukraine on Fire” was deleted by YouTube on Tuesday without explanation.

    Igor Lopatonok, the film’s director, said YouTube had deleted the film from his production company’s official channel, so he responded by waiving copyrights to allow people to download it on Vimeo.

    Stone is an Academy Award-winning anti-war filmmaker who has been a vocal critic of America’s neocon foreign policy.

    The “Platoon” director noted in 2017 that after the 2014 coup in Ukraine, U.S. media led by the CIA failed to present all sides of the events that unfolded and put out “very anti-Russian” coverage.

    “What I’m seeing today — and I’ve read these papers for years — is as bad as I’ve ever seen it,” Stone said. “When the Ukrainian situation happened, I didn’t see any reports from the other side of the war. Within hours the United States recognized the coup d’état. And the reporting from the beginning was very anti-Russian.”

    “They’re linked to the CIA…CIA interests are not America’s interests, they never have been. The CIA has been morally corrupt since the beginning.”

    Days after Russia invaded Ukraine in February, Stone condemned the “hysteria of the Western media” and called for a sober analysis of the geopolitical situation from all sides.

    Don’t miss Stone’s son Sean Stone breaking down on The Alex Jones Show what’s really going on in Ukraine and how the media is manipulating the public to push America to a global war with Russia.
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    • Revealing Ukraine:

    "Revealing Ukraine" by Igor Lopatonok continues investigations on of the ongoing Ukrainian crisis following "Ukraine on Fire". In addition, it analyzes the current political backstage and its dangerous potential for the world.
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    Quote Posted by 1212is24 (here)
    Anyone else low key hoping Russia somehow "win" here?

    I've been listening to this explanation by Putin about what's going on and he seems a lot more sincere than anyone I'm supposed to be rooting for.



    Doesn't seem like such an unreasonable guy to me.
    Well kinda, he will win in the Ukraine, to which he has committed only 10% of his ground forces.

    The big question is; IS he working for the WEF still, despite the rhetoric & the books handed out to commanders that list the things going on here in the West that you would only expect David Icke or Alex Jones to say .

    He has been utterly honest on this situation, but he has been very brutal in the past with reporters etc, plus allied with China who's human rights record is abysmal ...

    The best hope is he sorts out Ukraine, & then the ramifications of sanctions, the facts about the bioweapon labs etc expose the criminals in power here in the West & something is done about it.
    According to Martin Armstrong he never went through the 5 year training that all young global leaders go through, additionally Putin is not young. I would highly doubt Putin is on board with the GR and WEF. He is not a communist rather a professing Chrsitian who the Marxist and Communist have no use for. From my perspective having a Jesus installed truth meter and 60+ years of experience listening to liars I trust Putin to not be a globalist and possibly a true white hat.

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    A reminder, to keep an eye open for news of Russian operations to capture and enter underground facilities in Ukraine. According Jessie Czebotar, Ukraine has a huge amount of underground activity.

    If that is true, and I believe her, It seems logical to me that the Russian operation will be very engaged in dealing with them. Yet, as far as I know, no reports of such activity have turned up, or have they ?
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    Quote Posted by Spiral (here)
    Quote Posted by 1212is24 (here)
    Anyone else low key hoping Russia somehow "win" here?

    I've been listening to this explanation by Putin about what's going on and he seems a lot more sincere than anyone I'm supposed to be rooting for.



    Doesn't seem like such an unreasonable guy to me.
    Well kinda, he will win in the Ukraine, to which he has committed only 10% of his ground forces.

    The big question is; IS he working for the WEF still, despite the rhetoric & the books handed out to commanders that list the things going on here in the West that you would only expect David Icke or Alex Jones to say .

    He has been utterly honest on this situation, but he has been very brutal in the past with reporters etc, plus allied with China who's human rights record is abysmal ...

    The best hope is he sorts out Ukraine, & then the ramifications of sanctions, the facts about the bioweapon labs etc expose the criminals in power here in the West & something is done about it.
    According to Martin Armstrong he never went through the 5 year training that all young global leaders go through, additionally Putin is not young. I would highly doubt Putin is on board with the GR and WEF. He is not a communist rather a professing Chrsitian who the Marxist and Communist have no use for. From my perspective having a Jesus installed truth meter and 60+ years of experience listening to liars I trust Putin to not be a globalist and possibly a true white hat.
    To understand Putin's thought process I really recommend watching the following video. This is a breakdown of Alexander Dugin's (a Russian philosopher who has been dubbed Putin's "brain"), and subsequently, philosophy and take on world affairs.


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    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    • Revealing Ukraine:

    "Revealing Ukraine" by Igor Lopatonok continues investigations on of the ongoing Ukrainian crisis following "Ukraine on Fire". In addition, it analyzes the current political backstage and its dangerous potential for the world.
    Not sure of year this doc was made, but it predicted what is now happening.
    "Without the human request, nothing will happen."

    "This must never be forgotten, that the human has the power to prevail."

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    Not sure of year this doc was made, but it predicted what is now happening.
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    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    So it's BAIT !, then ?

    Start an international incident ?
    In my personal opinion, it could be. It does seem (as Col. Macgregor states) that everything is being done to escalate the dangerous situation, not de-escalate it.
    Historically, bad leaders who are loosing ground and popularity, often resort to smallish wars to take people's minds off of what is really happening around them.

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    Here in Thailand many stranded Russian tourists ,because of all the canceled flights are offered extensions of their visas by the Thai government.
    They cant use their banccards,because these bancs apparently apply those 'sanctions'.on Russians..(!?)luckely many Russians are still old fashion cash users,so not all were unprepared.

    Ukranian & Russians on the holiday islands are holding meetings together,and money raiising events ,showing together their mutual solidarity with the victims of war.

    In the last few weeks the whole world had a taste of the power of goverments to block & freese the bancaccounts of citisens for political reasons.Not a very good advertisement for the digital reset,or was this perhaps ,in a smart way provoked to expose the cabals' real intentions?

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    Quote Posted by gini (here)
    Here in Thailand many stranded Russian tourists ,because of all the canceled flights are offered extensions of their visas by the Thai government.
    They cant use their banccards,because these bancs apparently apply those 'sanctions'.on Russians..(!?)luckely many Russians are still old fashion cash users,so not all were unprepared.

    Ukranian & Russians on the holiday islands are holding meetings together,and money raiising events ,showing together their mutual solidarity with the victims of war.

    In the last few weeks the whole world had a taste of the power of goverments to block & freese the bancaccounts of citisens for political reasons.Not a very good advertisement for the digital reset,or was this perhaps ,in a smart way provoked to expose the cabals' real intentions?
    Perhaps threatening people's bank accounts would create a panic and many people would take their money out of the banks and then the system would crash and they could then bring in a cash-less system.

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    Anyone else low key hoping Russia somehow "win" here?

    I've been listening to this explanation by Putin about what's going on and he seems a lot more sincere than anyone I'm supposed to be rooting for.

    Kind of, but not exactly. Russian victory at war is just one of those facts, like leaves turn brown in autumn.

    I see it far less now as about Russia/Ukraine, but, how much of the corruption in our system can be exposed and punished. That is all that matters! It wouldn't matter much to me if techno-China took over the world, or, if we went back to the stone ages starting over. Of course, there is nothing over here I hope/root/cheer for even slightly, and consider myself an uninformed victim of the theft of taxes, etc., and have hardly ever found anything true or sincere dribbling from the lips of "those in the know".

    Is there something like an anti-CIA mindcontrol assassin? As in that person who from birth has been programmed to lash out at and dispose of the federal government? I have no freedom, I am subliminally commanded to keep doing this. To the extent that looking at all the representatives and departments and so on, those people all look like sick, dangerous animals to me, which, instinctually I would just smash. You know what I mean? They all have porphyry since 1720. Mr. Putin on the other hand would make me stop in my tracks and listen.

    If one has ever heard the ensigns on a ship about to mutiny, it sounds like this.

    My empath-o-meter, so to speak, does not blink at Putin, Dr. Assad, Sayeed Nasrallah and so on. They have better things to talk about and are better at saying them. The only thing that has repelled me more than the American press, is, perhaps the British one. I am afraid Australia probably does have actually stupider news events happening, due to even spine-less-er politicians, but I don't want to let their press speak for itself lest it compete with her English speaking cousins.

    The U. S. S. R. was not much good, but, actual Russian nationalism is amazing. Pretty much the same for Belarus. Intelligent and respectable. There is no way I would "consider them my enemy" or assume they are lying about everything. That label has been pasted on the wrong target!

    I would not also presume them to be really big friends or do any special favors. But in terms of living on the planet together, that is all we can ask. Workable terms for "interests", which are not social or emotional friendships. Instincts writ large.

    If you do not handle instinct wisely, violence is usually the first thing that comes out of it.

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