WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

[Ravenlocke]

I wonder what this really means.

https://twitter.com/MarkSleboda1/sta...33760949936130

[Michel Leclerc]

Posted by Hughe (here)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=maLyQuInfxY

President Vladimir Putin of Russia

(...)

Today's broadcast ends here.

Dear Hughe, this is a very valuable document showing – I suppose – how China looks at the "neo-Nazi" (or more precisely maybe, radical racist) component of political life in Ukraine.

However, I am a bit baffled at the (probably automatic, uncorrected) English version. The language mistakes can of course be corrected but certain passages are hard to understand at a conceptual level, such as: (1) the passage about "neo-nazism" or even "nazism" being a radical-left ideology (an interesting line of thought but what does it mean in this context?), (2) a strange passage about “LGTB” “thinking” being instrumentalised (?) by the Azov battalion (?), (3) the figure of 130,000 (!) people having been murdered in the Donbass...

Is there a Chinese speaking Forum member who could assess the factual correctness of the English version, so that the real content of this Chinese media statement can be ascertained?

As I regretfully do not master Chinese myself I even have to confess that I am not sure of my hypothesis that the source is People’s Republic Chinese (?)... It could be an independent news site, or could it?

And as for point (3), dear Malisa, if you feel like qualifying this figure.. I suppose it is an exaggeration... or is it an unofficial figure (a "Dunkelziffer" as one says in German) that also circulates in Russia for instance? Conversely, is the far lower figure of murder victims we have been hearing of in the West a way of "sparing" us Westerners – as we do not seem to fathom either what the figure of more than 100,000 Yemenite victims means exactly... being more easily moved to tears and into action by one weeping movie star than by hundreds of mangled bodies..
?

[Mashika]

Posted by Michel Leclerc (here)

Posted by Hughe (here)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=maLyQuInfxY

President Vladimir Putin of Russia

(...)

Today's broadcast ends here.

Dear Hughe, this is a very valuable document showing – I suppose – how China looks at the "neo-Nazi" (or more precisely maybe, radical racist) component of political life in Ukraine.

However, I am a bit baffled at the (probably automatic, uncorrected) English version. The language mistakes can of course be corrected but certain passages are hard to understand at a conceptual level, such as: (1) the passage about "neo-nazism" or even "nazism" being a radical-left ideology (an interesting line of thought but what does it mean in this context?), (2) a strange passage about “LGTB” “thinking” being instrumentalised (?) by the Azov battalion (?), (3) the figure of 130,000 (!) people having been murdered in the Donbass...

Is there a Chinese speaking Forum member who could assess the factual correctness of the English version, so that the real content of this Chinese media statement can be ascertained?

As I regretfully do not master Chinese myself I even have to confess that I am not sure of my hypothesis that the source is People’s Republic Chinese (?)... It could be an independent news site, or could it?

And as for point (3), dear Malisa, if you feel like qualifying this figure.. I suppose it is an exaggeration... or is it an unofficial figure (a "Dunkelziffer" as one says in German) that also circulates in Russia for instance? Conversely, is the far lower figure of murder victims we have been hearing of in the West a way of "sparing" us Westerners – as we do not seem to fathom either what the figure of more than 100,000 Yemenite victims means exactly... being more easily moved to tears and into action by one weeping movie star than by hundreds of mangled bodies..
?

Hi, i don't believe it could be up to 100,000 or more, the numbers were consistent to what was known since 2013 and beyond. but i remember reading it was between 14,000 and 20,000, of which civilians were always 13,000 and up to 18,000

We don't know for sure since a lot of people did not make it to the Donbass region that was protected by the militias and may or may not have been killed and buried on mass graves. Even then i don't think it could be more than 20,000 in total

As towns are liberated across Donbass, in the past days, lots of people from the previous liberated Donbass side has gone looking for their families on what was Ukranian controlled side, some found them alive but had considered them dead before, there was no communication for several years.

And some of them found other people living on their old homes, their parents or family members were unknown to the people living there (i suppose they either had to run and hide or were killed and not accounted for)

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/gbazov/status/1503016217048752128

[Michel Leclerc]

Thank you Malisa.

“Thanks” to my own family history I have been compelled in my life to delve into the details of Nazi oppression in Germany and in WWII occupied territories (Belgium, Poland)... and what you describe sounds so familiar – and hence so true..

Maybe the Chinese figure is only the result of incremental exaggeration, or even the proverbial zero too many...

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/gbazov/status/1503021339132710919

https://twitter.com/gbazov/status/1503021336557404167

[Michel Leclerc]

Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
...Gleb Bazov Twitter...

"Nur ein Gott kann uns retten..." (Heidegger) ["only a god can save us”]

May God help us.

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/vanessa_p_831/st...51740542865416

[ExomatrixTV]

• China Pushes Theory That Ukrainian Labs Are Funded By USA:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=vkvZTEkyy9Q

[ExomatrixTV]

• Oliver Stone on how the US misunderstands Putin:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=eiuplgzbCC4

The Oscar-winning filmmaker spent 20 hours shooting a documentary with the Russian president, and tells the FT's Matthew Garrahan that the western world has Vladimir Putin all wrong.

[shaberon]

Posted by 9ideon (here)
do not forget that these so called Liberals are Modern National Socialists posing as Democratic figures.

Here we are kind of dancing on wires of "what's in a name".

I was relatively ignorant of the specific phrase, Liberal Democracy, which characterizes the E. U., which is a brainchild of the "democracy" of the U. S., either one being approximately the same disguise of Totalitarianism. It was definitely "seen coming" by the Americans around 1900, was a fierce political issue, inspiration for the Wizard of Oz, etc., and so it is not very hard to recognize.

It also developed an eastern arm called the Bolsheviks.

But then this sounds adverse to National Socialists--Nazis, which did not then exist. They were "made" under a different blanket, which did have U. S. sympathizers, if we look at the failed coup of the 1930s called the Business Plot, having around half a million members. At that moment, you could make the case that "Nazism" was quite different from "Democracy".

However the "work in progress" had only one goal: to bring Germany into, and rather submissive to, the "international order", and in order to to this, its unique identity and basis for conflict was required.

At the end of the day, we have various large systems of Totalitarianism installed. The main point is that it is utterly false to consider "western democracy" as any different. It may have "talking points" that argue against Monarchy or Fascism or something, but, it is rather an inside takeover, that U. S. nationalism has actually done a pretty good job at avidly refusing until the late nineteenth century when you can find the tip of the scales around the time that the legal equivalency was made:

Corporation = Person


All downhill from there.

Generally speaking, Russia and the Islamic nations are quite aware about this, in one way or another. Moreover, every single time I have read their forbidden propaganda, they always say it is about the government and politics, not the population.

Pretty sinister, right? Although most of the U. S. internal laws are some kind of Socialism or Communism, at this point the structure is also "made of" Nazis, which in a sense has more to do with foreign affairs.

Most countries have an elected Foreign Minister who to some extent is regulated and responsible to his constituency. The U. S. State Department is an unelected appointment which has always taken its instructions from the British-aligned Council on Foreign Relations. Even Hillary Clinton recently said that basically "they tell us what to think".

Internally, our population undergoes Soft Kill Communism, wrapped in an ignorant bubble sealed from the players of "foreign affairs", which could not be more obvious than the total misunderstandings about Ukraine or the possibility that someone might even write those things to begin with.

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/wyattreed13/stat...94131043753985

https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/st...54675356139523

[shaberon]

Posted by Agape (here)
I am often quite shocked and in bare refusal of prevalent human mentality realizing we still live in age of racism that I’ve only read of in travel books in my childhood and thought of it as nonexistent and wiped out by decades of decolonization , education and presumed intelligence in work,

Unfortunately, this is a part of nature with which we are forced to contend.

We would argue that, lacking Dharma, mankind's existence is that of Hobbes:


Life is nasty, brutish, and short.


It is commonplace enough that you can get a decent 101 for it from, for example, LaVeyan Satanism. That stuff is not wrong because its data are untrue, it is just false because it then goes on to exacerbate the situation in a Macchiavellian revel. I would say it is very important to realize the grasp of this, because, it then becomes the internal driver of most of our politics.

The trouble with peaceful people is that they are easy victims.

If example is any teacher, I have tried to ask anyone around Europe, many times. The only instance we can find of peace breaking out was for about forty years in the reign of Franz Ferdinand. He held an empire of about ten different ethnicities who did not like each other in some cases at an animalistic racist nature. He was not an oppressor. Well into this I have seen a personal letter from, I think, someone in the early 1900s in Austria outright adoring him as the prince of peace.

If so, how true is this and how did it work?

The sad anti of it is that in the late 1800s--I think it may have been Victoria and Nicholas? The English and Russian monarchs-to-be met and were personally in love with each other for about five years and nothing happened basically because mum and dad said that English and Russians don't marry.


Any system of governance has to account for the fact that beings do not follow Dharma, they are extremely dangerous to themselves and others.

Now since ancient times it has always been known that to settle conflicts in many cases a "people of the book" is required. This is for example why ancient middle eastern astrologers are "Sabeans". It is why the Khazarian Empire became "Jewish". The titanic Mongol Empire established its system from a simple diplomatic process based on this. It is the Crusader systems, Islamic or Christian, which do not allow for discussion and have conquered their territories by violent forced conversion.

Russia is a culture recognizable as having a "book" for a long time, but, what it is calling the west actually has a different "book" which is recognizable as having conquered everything but the Baltic states by the sword. It was kicked out of Tibet and the Ming Empire. One is going to have to become aware that its subject, or faction, etc., is of no particular interest to those without it.


Here is the critical thing which is kind of a semantical issue because I would call it "nationalism". I obviously am not talking about right-wing death squads. I am using the meaning that a "nation" is a "culture". Exactly in the way that if you can say you are Cherokee, Welsh, Kurdish, or anything, then you have something which we no longer have in this country or never did, except for indigenous peoples. What the modern governmental nemesis loves to do is erase your culture. So this has to be prevented at all costs.

In the art of war it is usually called miscegenated. Mixed-out. This is for example what Assyria did to the culture of Israel. It is not exactly genocide because it is not direct slaughter, more like generational dissipation.

From this view, I can somewhat easily determine that I may be genetically spawned from a culture last represented at what has been called Bibractis but is most likely neighboring Autun, and from there, relatively easily track the miscegenation and ensuing consequences. So I personally wind up empty-handed, under many sequential layers of generational batterings. I physically was able to be produced mostly due to cheap oil.

Brutality has gone nowhere and it is indeed quite difficult to restrain.

[shaberon]

Along the lines of the point about "distance", what also happened was the outcome of an Israeli Air Force strike in Damascus:


Scores of ballistic missiles hit secret Mossad bases in Erbil, reportedly leaving several Israeli operatives dead.

Citing security sources, Iraq’s Sabereen News reported that two Mossad training centers were targeted by ballistic missiles in the early hours of Sunday.

Al-Mayadeen said a Mossad base on the Masif-Saladin street in Erbil was “fully razed to the ground and a number of Israeli mercenaries were killed or injured”.


That is the IRGC statement. The Syrian news is authentic but, usually, it is not very in-depth. They do, however, show a Krasnopol going off outside of Kiev:






The, um, highlighted portion is supposed to represent the Ukranian Armed Forces.

Obama has Covid and says he is grateful that he is vaccinated. But Marine le Pen is at least willing to speak against embargos and weapons supplies. Does she have any real influence, or, is she just allowed to talk while Totalitarian Democracy steamrolls ahead, a direction which cannot actually be travelled, resulting in the disintegration of its substance?

[Mashika]

As a former child soldier in Ukraine, i only have one thing to say to this imbecile

You brutal, arrogant and ignorant mouth breather beast, how stupid and ignorant and low can you get? There were true kids killed by adults in Donbass for years, you play this in such a stupid way. You are the lowest of the lowest of human kind

"I don't care if it was staged". Well you moron beast in two legs, i attended funerals for kids 12/13 year old who "actually" fought and died by bullets and mortar hits. You did not had any compassion or it did not make you feel anything because you are a piece of trash. That's all you are

I'm sorry but there's no other acceptable answer to what this imbecile said there, and that's the kind of people talking on shows and advancing narratives?

Nothing, absolutely nothing, can cover or disguise/excuse how disgusting these useful idiots are, no words of compassion or empathy can ever cover this imbecile behaviour

And it is a lack of respect for all the hundred/thousand kids that died fighting in Ukraine to protect or take revenge from their families. What a moron!

J*esus F*ck i'm angry right now. And then people wonder why we turned so violent and in constant defensive mode

Going out now, see you around guys!

[Mashika]

The kids who fought and died in Donbass in 2014/2015 and so on, don't have names, don't have their picture or tombs in any list, they are dead and they lie on the fields in whatever place they could be placed to rest. No one ever will know about them, no one will go place a flower every year, that's reality, they parents are gone, they are gone, it's over. This is something most people don't get

Is that beast who represents some kind of "American moral higher ground" a real person? Or just a brutal ignorant animal who learned to speak at some point and walks in two legs.. I wonder

Real child soldiers died and he doesn't care, but a fake one makes him "feel things" and therefore he will do his best to ensure more kids die in the hands of Nazi animals. Way to go! American exceptionalism at its best

He said he had girls the age of that girl on the picture, I feel sorry for those girls.

If you ever saw me being angry and violent here, then you may now see why and how that happened, i am always in defensive mode, i have seen more than i can and will ever tell

I don't trust anyone, i can't, i don't feel to be able to, people hide their inner feelings like this imbecile and then it comes out like that, just as he wrote, this feeling he has is the same one that caused this entire thing in the first place. He has no human soul

And this is one of those aspects of it, how we are considered and how i have seen this same rhetoric and point of view, so ignorant and brutal, so soulless and just simply full of hate and hypocrisy. This is how i have been feeling for years and years, and it's never ending

And like i said several times before, i'm just one of way too many who feel and went through the same, i'm not special, this is how we feel, and this is how we have been treated all along

To spit on the tombs of real child soldiers just to push an agenda is one of the most shameful things a 'human being' can do in this life

[Mashika]

Whatever happens, let's fight strong and brave, in all ways we can, please fight strong from your place and heart. Let's this not become the end

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=oyVJsg0XIIk

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/Z_Irina_V/status...52441795813379

https://twitter.com/anon_candanga/st...21467488079875

[mountain_jim]

Tulsi schools Romney, a RINO with his family's hands involved in corruption in Ukraine.


https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/...vTsxesnEF0WP6g

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/sta...vTsxesnEF0WP6g

https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/sta...vTsxesnEF0WP6g

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[Gwin Ru]

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... A False Flag Is Coming 8:40

KHARKIV
Mar 14, 2022

Gonzalo Lira

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=IRJ4umS7dJA