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    Quote Posted by Malisa (here)
    Whatever happens, let's fight strong and brave, in all ways we can, please fight strong from your place and heart. Let's this not become the end



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    A big shout out to Malisa for her courage, honesty, awareness, humanity and passion.

    Sometimes, anger is very well justified.

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    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
    https://twitter.com/Z_Irina_V/status...52441795813379
    I got motivated to scroll through Irina Larina's tweets, a couple of hundred of them: (And wow. Do take a look.)
    I also checked out the image of the girl with the gun and the lollipop, which has gone viral. The photographer was Alexei Kirichenko (in Kiev), and that was his 9-year old daughter holding his own (unloaded) gun. He set it all up as a photoshoot and then posted it on his Facebook page. It's just more manipulative, string-pulling propaganda.

    ~~~

    My next comments may deserve a thread all of their own.

    In all my years monitoring politicians and the media (even way before the internet), I've never known a time like this when there was such a huge quantity of blatant manipulation and outright lies everywhere one looks. It's a ceaseless barrage, like an artillery assault.

    The misinformation is almost everywhere, instantly believed and spread further by millions of people who never question a thing. It's astonishing to watch the extent of what Scott Ritter states is a CIA/MI6 operation (which he recognizes clearly from his long personal experience) — and how successful it is. It's like an uncontrolled fire in a tinder-dry forest, spread by hurricane winds.

    And then we hear about imbeciles (Malisa's not-inappropriate word) who've never been near a war, or in some cases never been to Europe, heading to Ukraine to "fight the Russians" in the crazed belief that they're somehow doing the right thing.

    It's literally hard to believe this is all happening. It's another aspect of "mass formation", or mass hypnosis.

    And the CIA are masters of that. In my archives I have an email sent to me over a decade ago by someone who described how he was approached by the CIA to "write fiction" for them. Go figure. (He refused the offer.)

    The extent to which so many regular people can be made to dance like Sesame Street puppets, as if they had no mind of their own, might make us all think really, really hard.

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    Udo Ulfkotte (In Memoriam), What Nobody Told You about Ukraine – Mindblowing!

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    Udo Ulfkotte (In Memoriam)

    Something incredible was revealed by a brave hero of humanity. Udo Ulfkotte was the editor of one of Europe’s largest newspapers, the Frankfurter Algemeine Zeitung. A few years ago he confessed to the world that journalists worldwide are paid by the CIA, secret societies, governments, billionaires etc. to… always lie, and never tell the truth to the public.


    Download this meme, so you can share it on social media.

    This newspaper editor confessed that journalists are paid to… push for war with Russia!

    That’s where Ulfkotte drew the line. After lying to the public for over 25 years, he could no longer live with his conscience. He publicly confessed his guilt, and exposed the worldwide criminal media cartel, that steers humanity to its doom. Shortly after his confession, Ulfkotte was found dead. Listen to his confession in this video:



    Unbelievable Deception
    What Ulfkotte confessed, can easily be observed when we look at how media around the world are lying about Ukraine. Look at the following examples…

    A picture of an explosion in Gaza years ago, is published as if it just happened in Ukraine…



    An explosion in China from 2015 is published as if it happened in Ukraine, just now…






    An image from a 2010 movieis published as if it was taken in Ukraine…




    Another scene from a movie, is used to ‘report’ on what is happening in Ukraine…




    A picture from a gas explosion in 2018 is used to show the ‘destruction caused in Ukraine by Russia’. The lady shown with a blood covered face, is a famous crisis actor, who appears in dozens of images of ‘disasters’. Pure theatre…




    In this short video you can see how this crisis actor is often used to deceive the public.




    A 2016 photo is used to stir up emotions, while it has nothing to do with the situation in Ukraine…




    A 2017 video of an explosion is published as if it happened just now in Ukraine…




    Another explosion from 2015 is used by CNN to create the illusion of a current explosion in Ukraine…




    An Israeli news agency broadcasts supposed footage from the Ukraine war zone. Turns out they used a scene from a Star Wars movie…




    A girl suffering from a bombing in Syria in 2018, is shown today as if she was hurt during bombings in Ukraine.



    These examples show how indeed the world is being deceived on a massive scale. Images from movies, past disasters, crisis actors, … all means are justified to lie to the public.

    [...]

    CHILD TERRORISTS
    What Big Media is also hiding from the world, is how children are being trained in Ukraine to become terrorists, on the model of ISIS! The famous “AZOV Battalion”, a group of Nazis operating in Ukraine for many years, was funded by the last governments in Kyiv.






    YOUTH TRAINED TO BE FASCISTS
    The dangerous rise of nazism and fascism in Ukraine is illustrated in this video, where a large group of teenagers is shanting the following lines:
    ‘Heil Ukraine, Death to the enemies, Heil Ukraine, Hang the Russians, Ukraine above all!, Ukraine above all else!’


    [...]

    Full article: https://jamesfetzer.org/2022/03/udo-...e-mindblowing/

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    And then we hear about imbeciles (Malisa's not-inappropriate word) who've never been near a war, or in some cases never been to Europe, heading to Ukraine to "fight the Russians" in the crazed belief that they're somehow doing the right thing.
    All head-shaking stuff. Here are a couple of examples of 'imbeciles' off to save the world and being touted as great heros in the local media. I know (of) one of them:
    ''I just think it's worth the risk': B.C. man quits job as he prepares to fight for Ukraine'

    https://vancouverisland.ctvnews.ca/i...aine-1.5801282
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    Quote Posted by Jill (here)

    Here are a couple of examples of 'imbeciles' off to save the world and being touted as great heros in the local media. I know (of) one of them:
    ''I just think it's worth the risk': B.C. man quits job as he prepares to fight for Ukraine'

    https://vancouverisland.ctvnews.ca/i...aine-1.5801282
    And all the master crooks really want out of it is maximum, spinned up with emotional investment, carnage and blood . . . . the bastards.
    ..................................................my first language is TYPO..............................................

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    ...

    ... sitrep from Jim Stone:
    Western analysts have likely concluded that Russia is going to get an un-answerable and resounding win in Ukraine

    (And the best move is to back off and let them take it) Here's why:

    Because this morning I saw the lie factory go into overdrive on every topic other than the war. I'll go over a few items related to this:

    1. They are again pushing the vax hard. They backed off on it for a while but now the CEO of Pfizer is saying a 4th booster will be needed for everyone, and "they" are letting him run with it. When anyone speaks up against it in various comment sections, the exact same bot drops in with this exact comment: "My friends, family, and co-workers have all had both shots of either Pfizer or Moderna and none have had any adverse reactions". That exact same phrase gets dropped in ad nauseum into every comment section everywhere, be it a news report or a twitter post or a forum, you name it, and it's not possible, first of all on the face it's false because there is no situation where all friends, all families, and all co-workers have had that shot, and second of all, even Pfizer admits there are adverse reactions frequently.

    2. Another huge indicator that "they" are screwed in Ukraine is that a lot of the mercenaries are going in and quitting quickly when they see Ukraine has nothing to fight with and they were lied to to get them there. There's very little opposition to Russia in the Ukranian public and they really are down to the last few zelensky loyalists or situations where Ukranian forces will tie people to trees with a rifle in their hands so they HAVE TO shoot at advancing russian forces when in reality they'd rather attempt to use a humanitarian corridor. Additionally, if you want to define "losing" then just take over a maternity ward, kick all the women and babies out, and use it as your military command post so you can shoot at the Russians and then cry in the press about them shooting at a maternity ward.. That happened and that's no sign of winning.

    3. Another huge indicator the West has lost Ukraine is stories coming out about the biolabs and "Human hybrid experiments" that have been revealed in Ukraine that don't really have anything to support them but could be true but my guess is that even though this video and more could be legit in some context that it is a game someone is playing to distract from the bigger issues and get people to stop talking about the war itself.

    4. Another big un-confirmed story that may be legit and may be to undermine the legitimacy of anything coming out of Ukraine is that Russia uncovered thousands of miles of tunnels (that part is probably for real simply because even Hitler dug a bunch) but what is not certain is that in the tunnels the Russians uncovered a massive child smuggling/mutilation/organ harvesting/ you name it operation. Now, this could be true but the story goes that the children were left behind and they were all alive. That's not plausible. Children usually cannot even do the basics to stay alive and if they got abandoned as prisoners they'd all be dead in about 3 days and it's a safe bet that the people who had the kids bailed out day one. The time frame does not add up but the story certainly would distract from the fact that NATO actually got cornered into a total loss scenario.

    5. Another huge indicator that Ukraine is lost is that Iran really did bomb the living sh*t out of a Mossad base in Iraq, and there's literally nothing prominent in the MSM about it. That's the news of the month and NOTHING is being said. Iran probably calculated weakness and was probably right. The strikes were so potent and so accurate that Israel probably filled a diaper or two and opted to remain silent.

    6. Another huge indicator that Ukraine is lost, WHILE Western powers attempt to quell outrage in their populations, is the fact that both gold and oil suddenly regulated in price despite all odds, with Brent crude sitting at $109 and gold sitting at about $1960. That's not possible absent manipulation, And there's more, a HUGE impossibility is developing in exchange rates of currencies. I have not checked more than just the peso, but the peso has sat at $20.92 against the dollar for five consecutive days now and that's not possible unless someone somewhere fixed the price of currencies. It is not possible that in this volatile world right now, currencies are not changing value against each other AT ALL. Not even out to the 4th digit. BULL****, that's manipulation pure and simple, and that does not happen unless there's BIG trouble someone wants to bury.

    7. There was a really stupid challenge by Elon Musk where he said he'd challenge Putin to "single combat" and "the winner takes all". I'd be fine with that provided Ukraine goes to Elon Musk and NO ONE ELSE, not zelenksy, not Hillary, not Biden, NOT GEORGE SOROS - it goes to Elon and that's the end of it. But that won't happen and you get stupid crap like this happening in headlines when you are losing, not winning.

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    Retired Indian Major General GD Bakshi Analyses Russia-Ukraine War...

    Yes, many thanks. This was just excellent.

    Major General Bakshi is obviously highly experienced, not being paid by the CIA, is totally clear and emphatic, and knows exactly what he's talking about.

    For anyone who might find his accent a little tricky, the English 'CC' captions are near-perfect. (One part only might need interpretation. The "army of two lakh, seventy thousand CIA-backed hackers" that he refers to means 270,000. He seems sure of his figures, and I have to say that's quite some hacker army.)

    His section of the video starts at 0:45. The intro is just what the newscaster has been told to read on her teleprompter.

    My favorite quote:
    You give a beauty queen a Kalashnikov. That's very good for the photo ops, but I'm afraid she does not know how to fire them. Even if she fires them against tanks, they'll just ping off harmlessly the bullets. So for God's sake, give us a break. Let's not cheerlead the Ukrainians into a disaster.
    None of this is funny... but the image he painted did raise a brief smile.

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    Hunter Biden's Rosemont Seneca funded as seen here
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    Hunter Biden's Rosemont Seneca funded Ukraine biolabs through a firm called Metabiota.

    Metabiota also partnered with EcoHealth Alliance and the Wuhan lab.

    Getting the picture yet?

    Metabiota in Ukraine: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...inian-biolabs/

    Metabiota/ EcoHealth/ Wuhan: https://thenationalpulse.com/2021/06...wuhan-partner/






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    Quote Posted by Agape (here)
    Quote Posted by Malisa (here)
    Let's leave out for a moment she tried to say "Slava Ukraine" which is a Nazi slogan, instead let's focus on what she actually said: "Slava Wuhan" and president "Kerensky".

    Do they even care about his actual name? And was that a freudian slip in front of the entire world? Wuhan... bats, corona-chan, bio research, illegal labs in Ukraine and across the world.... research into how to use birds to distribute illnesses...

    Watch the video on telegram
    https://t.me/russia/3699


    Jigzaw breaking into pieces


    It can’t be “the problem”. Wuhan Jiao 🙏🌟🙏 I’ve said that. It’s an ancient city, now province, full of history and culture.

    So is St Petersburg or Kiev. Live long and prosper. It can’t be the real problem or is it.


    The troubled minds engaged in conflict they can’t step out from , minds and emotions that keep running in people with hyper speed today are the problem,
    from simple to very complicated people but few have somehow managed to maintain their peace I feel, by trick or by virtue,

    the rest of humanity is on mental run nowadays that can’t be layed off easily while very few are choosing consciously WHAT are they actually running for and about ( other than sustenance )

    there is a greater transition in place it seems to me.

    Do not underestimate the transition to digital world that is still in its diapers right now but bound to transform many vague and rogue values in future,
    and give the same value to every “Russian, Finn and Ukrainian” ( how about that for starters , yea pundits and erasers of every frail, faulty and vulnerable humanity, yea dusters of old shelves , how about that; they would never agree on anything else than good coffee in my opinion before leaving the ancient battle field forever if they were of any sort of spiritual or visionary mind, they have all the space in the world to build crystal cities in the middle of nowhere , all the energy resources, no fear of global warming , why taking anyone’s space these days .)


    Imagine the power of information access and fast exposure of hidden values in coming weeks that would destroy and surpass the power of mass media and fake news.

    Information travels faster than Light

    and is also nature’s most powerful weapon.



    Peace to All

    🙏
    I understand this well, and i know you are wise and your view is correct

    There is only one thing i know about and from leaders, and that is "if you don't know who you are taking into your own custody, then you are not a leader". So here we have people leading with possibly millions of lives across the world, and they can't do the minimal job of at least understand the problem correctly? Learn the places and names and situation? They act lazy and sloppy, they don't care!

    This is a problem for me, people die all over the world and it's easier to just skip around a piece of paper or have someone read it to you then go out in front of the entire world and misspeak because you were not able to bother to spend the time on it, knowing very well that whatever you say may cause thousands of people to die

    For me, that's not acceptable, by any human standards

    Even for someone like me, who has no power, if i would star talking like this

    Washintawn
    President Joe Rider
    Samala Karris
    Barrack Obomo
    Los Angielies
    Konoda (Canada)

    And such and such, then i would be considered an ignorant fool, by any standards. And that's a fact

    Do you trust a family member to someone who could not care less about the person?

    I'm not trying to fight, i'm trying to bring up a fact. No one cares about Ukranians, or what is happening there, it's all about numbers and strategy. The people is just pieces being moved around. And you don't name your chess pieces every time the game starts again


    There is no unrighteous emotion, there it depends on righteousness of our ways to sorting or proclaiming them whether we end up in virtuous and civilized state of society or not at the end of the day.

    The world is big as far as humans and their individualizations , crystalisayion pf character and opinion are concerned , there are countless valid perspectives, true to the bearer yet sometimes they crash for refusal to step back from our frontline views, same for the US, same for the space race , same for the senseless sense of competitions stripping millions of young people down to caterpillar state only to done them uniforms ; or one of these Lady Gaga dresses I suggest ,
    make everyone laugh at it,
    make me cry.

    Yes, no one cares and our collective patience with the “sacrifice of care” and rites of liberation / aka liberty / aka freedom of human spirit, the sacred and the profane being sold in auctions negotiable against oil prices has even partially expired.

    So sad we so repeat itself, historically.

    I’m sure I’m looking at it from completely other side of perspective than any fighter, it’s the mother side of perspective I’m looking at the problem of humanity but it’s also fully logical.

    Not being able to look after your own citizens and fellow brothers and sisters , friends , is a huge problem .


    This war we are now facing, we had to face, so true. A wall of ignorance and diplomatically dumbed statements in today’s world where everyone speaks English or can, down to the Dalailama is ridiculous.

    We are unable to stop the war, or prevent nuclear conflict with full certainty at this point is also ridiculous.

    En sum, at the end of the equation there is an unknown intelligence acting aggressively towards humanity but it can’t be stopped or prevented.


    Because we can’t get rid of the rest of the bad stuff either and improve the situation out of sudden for millions of people.

    We can’t do good on button but bad and destruction on button we can.

    Realise the tiny logical backwards loop in minds of some of those people on the top.

    They feed us with drip but poison us by tons

    all the fumes going to the air now

    we breathe.


    I beg some of us are too lucky to be fighting in fresh air



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    https://twitter.com/Z_Irina_V/status...52441795813379
    I got motivated to scroll through Irina Larina's tweets, a couple of hundred of them: (And wow. Do take a look.)


    I also checked out the image of the girl with the gun and the lollipop, which has gone viral. The photographer was Alexei Kirichenko (in Kiev), and that was his 9-year old daughter holding his own (unloaded) gun. He set it all up as a photoshoot and then posted it on his Facebook page. It's just more manipulative, string-pulling propaganda.

    ~~~

    My next comments may deserve a thread all of their own.

    In all my years monitoring politicians and the media (even way before the internet), I've never known a time like this when there was such a huge quantity of blatant manipulation and outright lies everywhere one looks. It's a ceaseless barrage, like an artillery assault.

    The misinformation is almost everywhere, instantly believed and spread further by millions of people who never question a thing. It's astonishing to watch the extent of what Scott Ritter states is a CIA/MI6 operation (which he recognizes clearly from his long personal experience) — and how successful it is. It's like an uncontrolled fire in a tinder-dry forest, spread by hurricane winds.

    And then we hear about imbeciles (Malisa's not-inappropriate word) who've never been near a war, or in some cases never been to Europe, heading to Ukraine to "fight the Russians" in the crazed belief that they're somehow doing the right thing.

    It's literally hard to believe this is all happening. It's another aspect of "mass formation", or mass hypnosis.

    And the CIA are masters of that. In my archives I have an email sent to me over a decade ago by someone who described how he was approached by the CIA to "write fiction" for them. Go figure. (He refused the offer.)

    The extent to which so many regular people can be made to dance like Sesame Street puppets, as if they had no mind of their own, might make us all think really, really hard.

    On Wednesday , media reported that a children's hospital in the southern Ukrainian port of Mariupol had been destroyed by Russian airstrikes. They based this on an online message from the city council.

    “The Russian occupier has dropped several bombs on the children's hospital. The devastation is enormous," said the city council. There are said to have been 17 injuries among hospital staff. Reactions from world leaders were not long in coming. British Prime Minister Boris Johnson called the attack "depraved".

    Pretty soon after the attack, razor-sharp, professional photos appeared on the internet of people allegedly injured in the attack. What's the first thing you do after rockets fall on a hospital? Of course you wait for a professional photographer to show up to capture you being carried away on a stretcher.
    • Kicked out
    There were a number of events that preceded the attack that the media conveniently failed to name, but which are crucial.

    Two days earlier, on Monday, Russia had warned that the hospital had been turned into a military object. According to local reports, Ukrainian forces have kicked out the personnel, Russian UN Ambassador Vassily Nebenzia said during a briefing with the UN Security Council on the humanitarian situation in Ukraine . Nobody listened to him.
    Ukrainian troops also reportedly destroyed a kindergarten. These were soldiers of the infamous Azov Battalion, which is based in Mariupol.
    • Son of former employee
    On Tuesday, an article was also published on the Russian news site Lenta.ru in which the son of a former hospital employee tells how men in army uniforms entered the children's hospital at the end of February. Everyone had to leave and the soldiers brought in weapons.

    According to local sources, there have been no more healthcare workers and patients in the hospital, which also functioned as a maternity hospital, since the end of February.
    • source (Dutch 🇳🇱 + Multi-Language Options). 🦜🦋🌳
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