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    Something we can’t really witness from outside is still transpiring, internal situation in Russia was not great for last two decades now . Talking of ordinary citizens who imagined we could live all along in one world, have freedom of speech, movement and opinion,
    work together, with the US and everyone else,
    work for them and they work for us, what else would you normally wish for in relationship ?
    Ordinary people I’m talking about do not want any war. They don’t hate the US in any other manner than everyone hates a SYSTEM keeping them enslaved , everyone loves the US , have families there, no one wished for more borders , divide and conquer tactics and well .. oligarchs working for themselves alone.

    It seems that Putin is helping himself first in this dirty tactics game as the opposition against him was strong enough to replace him in democratic elections if it was not for his military power.


    Looking at this from very far , I think they would deserve to end this terrible state of internal matters and reshuffle , empower young generation of educators who are fully capable of living in open world, open minds, without the conflict and can do with it.


    Their internal war has been suppressed for long enough it seems to me and it looks fearsome .

    Their “MIB” commandos are feared all around the world.


    Then there are oligarch mafia gangs who act alike.

    There is a sense of terror I’ve been feeling distantly from some of this for long enough , difficult to substantiate as nowhere even reasonably close to their causes but wish this internal sense of terror can stop, must stop.

    Every dictator dies on their own sword at the end. The gruesome duel of those without character has no laws.

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    Here is an "extraction" which perhaps satisfies a few curiosities from the past several days.

    So far, it's "nothing" because if you want to know anything first you have to know Greek.

    I don't know the language, just the people, and I can assure you they are not exactly "the west". This happens to be around the Black Sea and they did in fact launch what we call civilization there around 600 B. C., so, this is nothing new.


    Because the Greek is only so-so with English, it is not clear to me, but it sounds something like this guy (in Moscow) was working for a Greek tv station, but, they replaced him with someone who is not really there, and, he is still there. This is being explained by:


    Dimitris Liatsos (unfortunately only in the greek language, so far).

    We also had a huge incident with the Greek consul of Marioupolis. He was being held, along with other people -around 30- in a basement for days. By Azov battalion paramilitants.

    Eventually he was liberated, and moved safely to Berdiansk. Only the official TV channels in Greece had a very difficult time explaining (or rather hiding) why the consul was in Berdiansk, a Russian-controlled city, and who actually liberated these people. It were the Chechens. Things did not get any better by the guilty silence of the Greek Foreign Affairs Ministry. Fact is, there is hardly anyone left in Greece that doesn’t know what is actually going on.


    He did not capitalize the word "consul", but, if he did not use it accidentally, it does constitute something "important". Compared to that, a trainload of rocket launchers is a box of junk.

    Someone probably needs to tell the Greeks that attacking Turkey is not going to help here. If they want to do that, it needs to be in Libya. They know everything but I would not be surprised if they could come across as extra aggressive. In the long run if they do not implode, they will have a Chinese-built port for Suez Canal shipping which will no longer need The Netherlands. Maybe this will just replace the pipeline and you can *still* get Russian fuel!



    According to Southfront:


    After numerous strikes of the Ukrainian Tochka-U tactic missiles on the civilians in the DPR and LPR, on March 17, Russian rockets destroyed the Ukrainian 732 artillery military ammo base in the town of Sarny in the Rivne region, where the missiles were stored.
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    This man seems to know what he's talking about and is able to fill in some areas people have questions about.

    Russian Military expert Andrei Martyanov on Russia's denazification operation in the Ukraine

    Among many important things discussed were:

    -that Ukraine has used prohibited weaspons against the people of the Donbass, repeatedly, including White Phosphorous

    -Ukraine’s use of Ukrainian civilians as human shields, a war crime, preventing them from leaving areas of conflict (much as terrorists did Syrian civilians)

    -why Russia is conducting the denazification operation

    -that the hatred of Russians and calls for their murder amongst Ukrainian nationalists is not a new thing, but decades old

    -that there will be a Ukrainian war crimes tribunal to hold accountable the criminals who have perpetrated untold and horrific war crimes

    -Ukraine’s biological weapons

    -the blatant propaganda and lies in the media war against Russia, much like the manifold lies we saw around Syria


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    Greek general consul reaches Zaporzhizha


    IF Greece was allowed to reclaim its legacy in harmony with its historical status and legacy , this world would move ahead in good direction , perhaps.
    They are practically the only ones empowered to hold holy rites of the Orthodox Christianity together with the Ethiopian Coptic Church without major break and failure for 2000 years now.

    Old Greek was taught in European gymnasiums and universities before and together with Latin. Some of our elder professors still remembered that.

    After the rise of the EU Greece was attacked on many levels, put to debt, humbled and extorted , shamelessly. Yet and philosophically, they’ve never resorted to hatred towards other nations or state of war.

    They’re much older than Russians of course, by literacy and culture, in this epoch of time so I don’t think they’re up to helping the war in any manner.


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    Is “Zaporzhizha” not where the biggest nuclear plant in Ukraine is, as well.
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    The good news this morning is that civilians are now streaming out of Mariupol, reports that 30,000 half starved & traumatised people have made it out.

    There are are endless tales of them being shot, bombed & used as human shields by Asov (Ukrainian nazis ).



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    They are practically the only ones empowered to hold holy rites of the Orthodox Christianity together with the Ethiopian Coptic Church without major break and failure for 2000 years now.

    Yes that is what I mean by they have a "book".

    West from a certain line through approximately Serbia these countries lack a "book" as explained by the Great Schism of 1054.

    From this view it has not constituted a civilization yet.

    There was a similar situation once when the Khazarian Empire was found to be lacking a "book". A discussion was held without the presence of any Orthodox Priest. There was a Roman, a Rabbi, and an Islamic Cleric. After the discussion, the king was not interested in the differences of any of them, and picked Judaism for being the oldest.

    The next main way of the Roman "book" trying to assert its validity resulted in the Jesuits being kicked out of all countries.

    It has not really found its way to the world's negotiating table yet. Corresponding to the societies under its aegis. Greece was trying to sort its way out since Lord Byron. It, obviously, hasn't, and, at this point, I would expect them to be very great knowers-of-the-IMF as well as the "fairy tales" of Ukraine and might suspect the two are associated.

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    You see. Any religious group or person who had carried out or supported acts of violence are black hat shamans at the best stake but not a priest or priestess of the Holiest of Holies.

    Ahimsa Paramo Dharmo.

    The highest means is non violence.

    It does not mean there are no other methods being practiced by the wide&wild strata of human society.

    By abuse of rites every religious group and society lost its power on earth to this day , turned themselves renegades, refugees, exiles and Jews.

    Why even talking of restoration of their spiritual backgrounds and powers if this internal violence and war can’t be stopped, while freedom of speech and religion have practically been assassinated in Russia , seeing their nobles rolling around in chains..

    it’s two hundred years old mentality clashing to this , it seems to me.


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    Here is how social distancing during the shutdown has been put to use.


    In response to the view that there is sort of a Greco-Russian "book", this is one of ours. This is, I think, a Chinese lady renting out a theater to do an Indian Sanskrit chant from the eighth century. It has far less in common with her language than it does with ours.


    The music and video per se are:


    Copyright© by Tinna Dinhova (Tinna Tinh )all rights reserved


    one response being:

    I'm Buddhist from india and I literally got goosebumps and you won't believe the tears came out from my eyes automatically when I heard this. Lots of love from India .This lady's voice like a goddess from heaven. Namo buddhay.


    There are quite a few things like this which are not always that great, but, this is very authentic and she really is very good at it. I understand it because she is using my "family bible". But she is way better at it than me and I think that if you have no idea what she is saying, you can probably hear a little bit of what she means. This is not Russian culture, but, we could say we have found a way to peacefully co-exist. Perhaps it may help to blunt some of the paranoia:






    Usnisa Vijaya Dharani Sutra - 佛頂尊勝陀羅尼經- 모든 고통을 치유하는 만트라
    Namo buddhaja
    Namo dharmaja
    Namo sangaja
    Teata om muni muni maha munaja soha

    Namo bhagavate trailokya prativiśiștaya buddhāya bhagavate. tadyathā, om,
    viśodhaya viśodhaya, asama-sama samantāvabhāsa-spharana gati gahana svabhāva viśuddhe, abhişiňcatu mām. sugata vara vacana amrta abhişekai mahā mantra-padai. āhara āhara āyuh sam-dhāraņi. śodhaya śodhaya gagana viśuddhe. ușņişa vijaya viśuddhe sahasra-raśmi sam-codite. sarva tathāgata avalokani şat-pāramitā-paripūrani. sarva tathāgata mati daśa-bhūmi prati-șthite. sarva tathāgata hrdaya adhişthānādhişthita mahā-mudre. vajra kāya sam-hatana viśuddhe. sarvāvaraņa apāya-durgati pari viśuddhe, prati-nivartaya āyuh śuddhe. samaya adhişțhite. maņi maņi mahā maņi. tathatā bhūta-koți pariśuddhe. visphuța buddhi śuddhe. jaya jaya, vijaya vijaya. smara smara, sarva buddha adhişthita śuddhe, vajri vajragarbhe vajram bhavatu mama śarīram. sarva sattvānām ca kāya pari viśuddhe. sarva gati pariśuddhe. sarva tathāgata siñca me samāśvāsayantu. sarva tathāgata samāśvāsa adhişthite. budhya budhya, vibudhya vibudhya, bodhaya bodhaya, vibodhaya vibodhaya samanta pariśuddhe. sarva tathāgata hrdaya adhişthānādhișthita mahā-mudre svāhā.

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    "The policy of the USA has always been to prevent Germany and Russia from cooperating more closely"
    Historical, political and economic background of the Ukraine war

    An interview from the Swiss newspaper "Zeitgeschehen im Fokus" with the retired Swiss Coronel Jacques Baud, who holds a master's degree in Econometrics and a postgraduate degree in International Security from the Graduate Institute of International Relations in Geneva. Jacques Baud was on behalf of the Swiss Federal Department of Foreign Affairs, 5 years active at NATO as the top lead for the fight against the proliferation of small arms, contributing to projects in the Ukraine. Baud knows Russia, the Ukraine and NATO well. He speaks Russian and has access to documents that few people in the West look at

    https://zeitgeschehen-im-fokus.ch/en...l#article_1319

    The article/interview is in my opinion excellent and worth the time to read the full article

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    The good news this morning is that civilians are now streaming out of Mariupol, reports that 30,000 half starved & traumatised people have made it out.

    There are are endless tales of them being shot, bombed & used as human shields by Asov (Ukrainian nazis ).
    Thanks — I've been waiting for that, but not yet seen anything at all about it (not even on RT). If you can share some reports (even copying and pasting bits of text) we'd all sure appreciate it. (Gonzalo Lira may refer to this in his today's video update, yet to appear)
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    Quote Posted by Spiral (here)
    The good news this morning is that civilians are now streaming out of Mariupol, reports that 30,000 half starved & traumatised people have made it out.

    There are are endless tales of them being shot, bombed & used as human shields by Asov (Ukrainian nazis ).
    Thanks — I've been waiting for that, but not yet seen anything at all about it (not even on RT). If you can share some reports (even copying and pasting bits of text) we'd all sure appreciate it. (Gonzalo Lira may refer to this in his today's video update, yet to appear)
    The link to Gonzalo Lira's videos didn't work, but I did find this. He says Ukrainian criminals have been given military grade weapons which they are using to rob, rape and run amok

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    Quote Posted by Matthew (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Spiral (here)
    The good news this morning is that civilians are now streaming out of Mariupol, reports that 30,000 half starved & traumatised people have made it out.

    There are are endless tales of them being shot, bombed & used as human shields by Asov (Ukrainian nazis ).
    Thanks — I've been waiting for that, but not yet seen anything at all about it (not even on RT). If you can share some reports (even copying and pasting bits of text) we'd all sure appreciate it. (Gonzalo Lira may refer to this in his today's video update, yet to appear)
    The link to Gonzalo Lira's videos didn't work, but I did find this. He says Ukrainian criminals have been given military grade weapons which they are using to rob, rape and run amok

    Thanks (I'd not seen that). He's very bright, very personable, and very well-informed. He has degrees in Philosophy and Russian History, now married to a Ukrainian woman and has two young children. A couple of weeks ago he safely made it out of Kiev (on the train!) to Kharkov, where his family is.

    Here's his channel — sincere apologies for the typo (mea culpa). I'll correct my post and your quote of it.

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    Quote Posted by Spiral (here)
    The good news this morning is that civilians are now streaming out of Mariupol, reports that 30,000 half starved & traumatised people have made it out.

    There are are endless tales of them being shot, bombed & used as human shields by Asov (Ukrainian nazis ).
    Thanks — I've been waiting for that, but not yet seen anything at all about it (not even on RT). If you can share some reports (even copying and pasting bits of text) we'd all sure appreciate it. (Gonzalo Lira may refer to this in his today's video update, yet to appear)
    For what it's worth, there is some reference to that in the first 2:30 minutes of this video from the 15th from the Defense Politics Asia youtube channel. He seems to be a Chinese guy living in Singapore, and getting info partially from open source and partially from some low level Russian military.

    [ Siege of Mariupol ] 2000 cars reported left for Zaporizhzhia; video of mines and Russian bus evac
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    ...

    ... People on their way out of shattered Mariupol 01:04

    March 18th, 2022

    Bird's eye view of residential buildings damaged by shelling in Mariupol and long traffic jams on the way out of the city.

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    https://twitter.com/MapsUkraine/stat...21243663470597

    https://twitter.com/Kees71234/status...35067363889164

    https://twitter.com/RobertS61075123/...77309109592066
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    ...

    ... from Jim Stone:

    ANOTHER EPIC GAME CHANGING BOOM: ALL INJURED FOREIGN MERCENARIES IN UKRAINE HOSPITALS ARE BEING SHOT IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD BY UKRANIAN FORCES.

    They claim that if the mercenaries leave alive, they will give up secrets. This order probably came from Zelenski who is from a tribe with a history of using people like toilet paper.


    ALSO SEE THIS. (for as long as it lasts)

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