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    In order to figure out Zionism, my understanding goes along these lines:


    The Final Solution actually is an entity of the Nazi command and it consists of deportation. It was aimed at an ethnic cleansing of Jewish persons by sending them to the Virgin Islands and other neutral territories such as that. The Zionists however took an activist position saying that the destination should be Palestine. Of course there turned out to be no way this was agreed by the German commanders. The difference of opinion played itself out in Ukraine. Through time mostly thanks due to Allied bombardment of German railroads, conditions in prisons became deplorable. And so the actual facts of the very vicious violent things of Ukraine were then sort of retro-fitted by Zionists to shape it as if that were the first thing to have taken place in Germany and why the prisons looked so bad.


    And so yes of course, someone in Israel would want to distance themselves from what appears to be going on here. Because it is now a country, you can be a different kind of Zionist. However the country owes its existence due to its progenitors having made an outrageous demand to "Ukranian Nazis". At so at some level we might say there is even a difference between "Ukranian rabid nationalists" and "German rabid nationalists". These days, instead of the Jews, it was mainly Russians and other non-Ukranians. The actual Zionist country Israel does not want to alienate Russia too much. So although Ukranian Nazis were at one time a useful tool--i. e. a huge motivation for immigrators--they are no longer needed by that country. Ironically, they seem to be important to non-Israeli Zionists. Those people perhaps have their hands in too many countries. Again, let's remember the last time Israel made an enormous contribution to something outside of itself.




    Welcome to the new neighborhood:


    Units of the Russian Airborne Forces forced nationalist battalions and the Ukrainian military out of the Kiev suburbs, who, retreating, left tanks, AMPVs, a lot of firearms, anti-tank weapons, and ammunition", an official statement read.

    The list of the trophies includes T-64 and T-72 tanks, as well as German-made Panzerfaust 3 anti-tank weapons, 9K38 Igla missile systems, and other arms.

    Over 60 Ukrainian Troops Surrender as Russian Military Takes Control of Buried Command Centre Near Kiev.



    All of that mostly follows the Syrian plan with the gear going to the hands of DPR and LPR. The closest parallel that comes to mind of Ukranian Armed Forces is:


    Saudi Arabia.


    The amount of NATO equipment destroyed or captured from these sources when the militaries attempt to deploy them combatively is embarrassing. Ukraine also has Soviet stuff, so, it's just "a lot of stuff", which has accomplished little except getting them in a lot of trouble. Exactly how much, when, we have reason to suspect that any kind of organized crime that can be named is likely in operation here, through, largely, international collusion, would probably legitimately take more time to determine than re-writing two months' worth of already-obtained Covid vaccine data.

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    Ukrainian media report that the wife of former MP Kotvytskyy tried to take $28 million and 1.3 million euros out of #Ukraine via #Zakarpattya.

    The money was found by the #Hungarian border guards and forced to declare it.








    What first Domino ?

    Hunter Biden indictment incoming. Perfect timing to blow the Ukraine inverse war propaganda to bits?
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    A bit of 'not so'/comic relief

    Honestly, love my bros in arms, but sometimes.. i feel the need to go smack good common sense into those dense heads... lmao



    I was watching this video, and then, around 0:34

    https://t.me/vicktop55/2170

    I still love you guys, but you are dumb as a rock

    "You both guys will have to stand in the sun with three full buckets of water, one on each hand and i don't know how but you will be carrying a third bucket for at least 4 hours" Is what i would say if they were under my command after this dumb situation caught my eye
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    As far as i know and can tell, this is not the first time the lie and attempt to destroy Russia is implemented, it has been the same all along, just a snake whispering to anyone who spends a minute to listen to it drives it all behind, over and over. The divisive message is just the same across generations, it has always been, the snake lives through it all and tries again then



    Zelensky said "summer is coming", but no dude, for you "Summer is ending"



    Rinse and repeat
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    Another one bites the dust

    Oh no... One by one, "the mighty" fall as anything but what they pretended to be, and this one is very sad, watch the video on Telegram please

    "Maryana Naumova, world champion in powerlifting, responds to Arnold Schwarzenegger's appeal to the Russian people."
    https://t.me/vicktop55/2178


    This is not the first time she speaks about it, she did this other video years ago, it mostly was ignored
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    Quote Posted by Malisa (here)
    Quote Posted by ByTheNorthernSea (here)
    Last - again addressed to anyone reading this - most don't want this conflict, and if you do, then I'd say you belong in a different time, a different era...if / when you finally return there (sooner rather than later I'd hope), then please close the door behind you, don't ever return, and allow the rest of us to live our lives in peace... finally....


    I'm sorry but this is such as simplistic black and white view of reality that it's almost criminal

    If you are a 14 year old kid sitting at home watching netflix or whatever, and then the ukronazis come and say "we detained your parents and are here to collect your sister" and then they see she's pretty and rape her in front of you and tell you to don't say anything and beat the hell out of you for trying to stop them, then they come back two days later and say "your parents are dead, join us into the army or you will die too" and again rape your sister and say "we'll come back in two days for you, get your stuff together"

    Do you run away from town, and get killed on the way out?

    What if they come back earlier and say "were' taking your sister with us to the barracks, she is going to live with us now"

    What do you do? Tell them to keep coming to rape her and not make too much noise because you are watching Netflix in the leaving room?

    So yes, some people will want war, they can't avoid it, they need to so something about it

    Quote please close the door behind you, don't ever return, and allow the rest of us to live our lives in peace... finally....
    Maybe their suffering and total in-progress spiritual destruction is something you would not like to see because it doesn't make your day shiny, but that person is dying inside and in terrible pain that can't be cured by "smile and your day will be better", that person will go look for retaliation and you basically saying "take your absurd need to release that pain and take revenge and disappear from my world because i don't care about your reasons, go away"

    I don't think you understand the full extent of your reasoning and words, as posted here. In fact, you cause more division through them that the supposed 'peace' you talk about

    I'm sorry but this is in no way a true hope for peace, this is a hope for you to not be bothered with having to learn about other people's suffering, it's more like "go suffer and die somewhere else where i can't see you"

    And that's truly sad and depressing. I'm very truly sorry and sad you said those things, without considering the pain of those people out there. I don't get it, never been able to get it

    Very honestly
    This actually just reminded me of "Shiny Happy People" by REM

    It was a song about how China's people are so enslaved and poor and hard working and they have to smile for the propaganda prosperous picture even when they are dying inside very slow, but very sad as well

    And people think it's a song about how people are very happy together and other crap. Ways the world turn around, what for one people is misery and tears, for others is luxury and smiles

    Tired

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    • The Broken Promise Of 1990

    • In 1990 Bundeskanzler & Bilderberger Helmut Kohl of what was then called West Germany and Mikhail Gorbachev, the last president of the Soviet Union signed the agreement on the unification of Germany.
    Before and after signing the agreement James Baker, United States Secretary of State, under the (president) Reagan Administration, promised Russia, Mikhail Gorbachev , that NATO should rule out an “expansion of its territory towards the east, or moving closer to the former Soviet borders”. According to many sources that time he reassured this by agreeing with Gorbachev’s statement in which he said that NATO’s expansion is unacceptable, now the cold war is over and Europe, Russia and the US should find common ground on the path towards peace and prosperity. Baker replied: “he and the Americans understood that “not only for the Soviet Union but for other European countries as well it is important to have guarantees that if the United States keeps its presence in Germany within the framework of NATO, NATO should not move in the eastern direction, meaning not expand to former Warsaw Pact countries.

    In order to understand Russia's current position, we must see this as the “red line” running through the diplomatic stance. Since President Putin and his United Russia party have been in power since 2000, the West tried to control Putin like they did with his predecessor Boris Yeltzin. The sell-out of Russia was in full swing, since the collapse of the Soviet Union and the country was ravaged by criminal activity and criminal groups, from which many of today's oligarchs have emerged, many of them exiled (UK) or in prison, we all know the example of Mikhail Khodorkovsky .

    In 2007, President Vladimir Putin delivered his famous Munich speech, in which he made it clear that Russia is back and on track to become a "superpower" again and the world will be a multipolar one instead of an unipolar. This to the great dismay of those present in the room, such as John McCain (+)the “godfather” of the so-called Syrian resistance and involved in the Syrian war, supported first the Free Syrian Army (FSA), a clip on CNN saw him sitting with a man with great similarities with Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, who became the leader of DAESH (ISIS), McCain, we can say was guilty of crimes against humanity.

    Also, Angela Merkel and Viktor Yanukovych, who became President of Ukraine, through the first color revolution from the West (George Soros Open Society Foundation) called the Orange revolution, the second color-revolution was in 2013, instigated by the US and EU were there. Present and attending was (former) NATO general-secretary Jaap de Hoop-Scheffer(Dutch). De Hoop-Scheffer later admitted that they should have acted "differently" with Putin and Russia and should have listened more to Russia's complaints and show understanding for the "broken promise". These players played a role against the “hatred” of the West (governments) against Russia. Propaganda ran high, from 2007 until now.
    • The stand-off
    We are now in the final stages of the West wanting to get Russia on its knees. The West is hopeless and clings to its unipolar ideology. Russia and also China have now risen to become two superpowers, posing a threat to the "old" ideology of the West, namely, a unipolar world and colonialism. The West tries to compensate for its loss by pushing so-called new plans, a society free of oil and other raw materials that can be found in the multipolar world and can no longer be "stolen" but bought.

    They call this “Build Back Better” and sell it to the public, it’s needed to save the planet and climate and call it "the new green deal". The West is in despair about this new multipolar world order, a new world order, which they themselves have been preaching for years, has now been taken over by China and Russia and their allies. Russia that no longer allows NATO to advance to the borders with Russia.

    Russia is reminding NATO about their promise in 1990 that they made, “no expansion to the East”, but promises from Western countries are always broken, as history learns. Russia was quiet for a while and was cleaning up the mess in Syria caused by Western countries supporting terrorists and almost unleashing a world war.

    Russia has watched how a coup d'etat took place in Ukraine (2013-2014) and has tried via diplomatic negotiations with the West to solve the matter. This was not a success, the West, the EU/NATO and the US want war and invent everything to provoke Russia. China's ally Russia must also bear their propaganda, now that the very old George Soros has once again made himself heard and accused China of having a dictator, namely President Xi.

    We have now arrived at the height of Western propaganda, blatantly blaming Russia, supporting neo-Nazis in Ukraine, who are found in the government of Ukraine, if you can call it a “real”government of course. But they forget that many Ukrainians feel kinship with Russians and do not want war at all. Even President Zelensky spoke out against the West, especially the US, saying that nothing had changed in Ukraine and there was no threat from Russia.

    As I wrote before, the West listens to the propaganda of ex-Soviet states such as Lithuania and Latvia, who still live in the Soviet past, while much has changed since 1990, Russia is no longer communist and Ukraine is now under the yoke of the EU, the population of Latvia and Lithuania have immigrated to the richer countries of the EU, because there is no work in their countries.

    Where the population of above mentioned countries thought they would get a better life, it now appears that it has become worse than in the former Soviet Union and that was not the intention. But for the EU and their globalist agenda precisely the intention, cheap ex-Soviet countries where they could set up their factories, capitalism doesn't care about the population, only “capital”is important. We will see how it unfolds, the coming weeks, although I still think no “real physical” war will take place, at least I hope Europe and the US still have the common sense not to start a war!
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    Quote Posted by Malisa (here)
    Another one bites the dust

    Oh no... One by one, "the mighty" fall as anything but what they pretended to be, and this one is very sad, watch the video on Telegram please

    "Maryana Naumova, world champion in powerlifting, responds to Arnold Schwarzenegger's appeal to the Russian people."
    https://t.me/vicktop55/2178


    This is not the first time she speaks about it, she did this other video years ago, it mostly was ignored

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    Thank you so much, i could not find it on my side

    One thing that i want to mention is this, and this is very true, once a Russian goes from Mr xxx, to the actual name of the person, as she switched from "Mr Schwarzenegger" to "Arnold" she's basically spitting on his face with all the way down lack of respect, she lost all respect for the guy just right there.

    "Polite people" only goes so far

    And that's very telling, if this was a face to face interview or talk, she would probably not had been so polite, or anything but brutal and blunt without care for any repercussions..

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    Gonzalo Lira provides an update from an acquaintance based in Mariupol:



    Source: Gonzalo Lira

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    IMPORTANT

    A thread about civilians in Mariupol. I just got word from a Ukrainian acquaintance. Her parents and aunt and uncle were living in Mariupol (she was raised there but moved away for university).

    She tells me that her family were shot at by Ukrainian Armed Forces on multiple occasions, which prevented them from leaving the city. She did not explain the circumstances of them being fired upon, but said that it had been more than once.

    However, they said that the Ukrainian Armed Forces were losing, and had finally left their residential area, allowing them to flee to the Russians.

    The Russians fed them, and put them on transportation to Rostov (she didn’t say what sort of transportation).

    They said the biggest deal was that the Russians gave them a lot of food, because they had been starving during the siege.

    This is actual testimony from a person whom I’ve known for some time, so I know that it’s not propaganda or nonsense—this is as real as it gets.
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    Livestream from Gonzalo Lira, starting about 50 mins ago. He starts with a personal update, and then after 5 minutes he's talking about the situation on the ground.


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    • Watch Putin’s Full Censored Speech To The West Warning of Corrupt Globalist Elites Pushing For World War
    "The truth is that the current problems faced by millions of people in the West are the result of years of action, error, short-sightedness, and ambition on the part of the ruling elites of their states. These elites are not thinking about how to improve the lives of their citizens in Western countries. They are obsessed with their own self-interest and super-profits," says Russian president.

    "There are hostile geopolitical goals behind the hypocritical talks and current actions of the so-called collective West. They do not need, simply do not need, a strong and sovereign Russia; they will not forgive us for our independent course or for defending our national interests."



    Russian President Vladimir Putin addressed the world in a lengthy speech last Wednesday outlining steps the Russian Federation will take in response to harsh economic sanctions levied by the West.

    Though the corporate media reported on snippets of Putin’s speech, they also distorted the substance of his remarks and failed to provide the full context, which is presented here.

    He also explained how the clandestine biolabs in Ukraine, the West’s dismissal of Russia’s concerns about NATO expansion, and war crimes against the people of the Donbas region compelled Russia to act militarily.
    • Transcript of Putin’s full speech:
    We are meeting at a difficult time, when our Armed Forces are conducting a special military operation in Ukraine and Donbass. Let me remind you that at its very beginning, in the early morning of February 24, I publicly and openly stated the reasons and the main goal of Russia’s actions.

    It is to help our people in the Donbass, who for almost eight years have been subjected to the most barbaric methods – blockade, large-scale punitive actions, terrorist attacks and constant artillery shelling – a real genocide. And for what? Only because they sought elementary human rights – to live by the laws and traditions of their ancestors, to speak their native language, to raise their children the way they wanted.

    At the same time, the authorities in Kyiv have not only ignored and sabotaged the implementation of the Minsk Package of Measures to peacefully resolve the crisis over all these years, but at the end of last year they refused to implement it in public.

    They have also begun the practical implementation of plans to join NATO. Moreover, the Kyiv authorities also announced their intention to build their own nuclear weapons and the means of their delivery. This was a real threat. Already in the foreseeable future, with foreign technical assistance, the pro-Nazi regime in Kiev could get its hands on weapons of mass destruction, and its target would, of course, be Russia.

    There was also a network of dozens of laboratories in Ukraine where military biological programs, including experiments with samples of coronavirus, anthrax, cholera, African swine fever, and other deadly diseases were conducted under the direction and financial support of the Pentagon. Traces of these secret programs are now being strenuously covered up. But we have every reason to believe that components of biological weapons were in fact created in the immediate vicinity of Russia, on Ukrainian territory.

    Our repeated warnings that this development posed a direct threat to Russia’s security were rejected by Ukraine and its US and NATO patrons with ostentatious and cynical disregard.

    Thus, all diplomatic options have been completely exhausted. We were simply left with no options to resolve peacefully the problems that arose through no fault of our own. And so we were simply forced to launch a special military operation.

    The appearance of Russian troops near Kiev and other cities in Ukraine is not connected with the intention to occupy this country. We do not have such a goal, and I also explicitly stated this in my address on February 24.

    As for the combat tactics that have been developed by the Russian Ministry of Defence and our General Staff, they have fully justified themselves. And our guys – soldiers and officers – are showing courage and heroism, doing everything in their power to avoid casualties among the civilian population of Ukrainian cities.

    I want to say this for the first time: at the very beginning of the operation in Donbas, the Kiev authorities were asked through various channels, in order to avoid senseless bloodshed, not to engage in combat operations, but simply to withdraw their troops from Donbas. They did not want to. Well, that is their decision. The realization of what is happening in the real situation, on the ground, will come inevitably.

    The operation is progressing successfully, in strict accordance with pre-approved plans.

    I would like to note that Ukraine, encouraged by the United States and a number of Western countries, was purposefully preparing for a violent scenario, a bloodbath and ethnic cleansing in Donbass. A massive offensive on the Donbass and then on Crimea was only a matter of time. And our Armed Forces thwarted these plans.

    Kiev was not only preparing for war, for aggression against Russia, against Donbass – they were waging it. Attempts to organize sabotage and a terrorist underground in Crimea did not stop. In recent years, fighting continued in Donbas, shelling of peaceful settlements. During this time almost 14 thousand civilians have been killed, including children.

    On March 14, as you know, there was a rocket attack on the center of Donetsk. It was an outright bloody attack that killed more than 20 people. And this kind of shelling has been going on for the last few days. They hit indiscriminately, in squares, with the fanaticism and frenzy of the doomed – like the Nazis, who in the last days of the Third Reich tried to take as many innocent victims with them to the grave as possible.

    But what is striking in its extreme cynicism is not only Kiev’s unapologetic lies and claims that it was Russia (they thought of that too!) that allegedly launched a missile at Donetsk, but also that the so-called civilized Western world, the European and American press did not even notice the Donetsk tragedy, as if it never happened.

    In the same hypocritical way, they turned a blind eye during the last eight years, when mothers in Donbass buried their children. When old people were killed. This is just some kind of moral degradation, a complete dehumanization.
    The many years of mockery of the people of Donbass could no longer be tolerated. And to put an end to the genocide, Russia recognized the people’s republics of Donbass and concluded treaties of friendship and mutual assistance with them. On the basis of these agreements, the republics turned to our country for military assistance in repelling the aggression. And we provided this assistance – we simply could not, had no right to do otherwise.

    But what I want to emphasize and ask you to pay attention to: if our troops had acted only on the territory of the people’s republics, helped them liberate their land, this would not have been the final solution, would not have led to peace and would not have eliminated the threat fundamentally – to our country, already to Russia. On the contrary, there would have been a new front line around Donbass and along its borders, and shelling and provocations would have continued. In other words, the armed conflict would drag on endlessly, fueled by the revanchist hysteria of the Kiev regime, and NATO’s military infrastructure in Ukraine would deploy even faster and more aggressively: we would be faced with the fact that the Alliance’s offensive weapons are already at our borders.

    I repeat – we would have had no other option for self-defense, for Russia’s security, except a special military operation. And all the tasks we have set ourselves will certainly be accomplished. We will reliably ensure the security of Russia and our people and we will never allow Ukraine to serve as a springboard for aggressive actions against our country.

    These are issues that are fundamental for Russia and our future – the neutral status of Ukraine, demilitarization and denationalization – we were ready and willing to discuss during the negotiations. Our country has done everything to organize and conduct these negotiations, understanding that every opportunity must be used to save people and their lives.

    But again and again we are convinced that the Kiev regime, which has been tasked by its Western masters to create an aggressive anti-Russia, is indifferent to the fate of the people of Ukraine. The fact that people are dying, the fact that hundreds of thousands, millions have become refugees, the fact that there is a real humanitarian disaster in the cities held by neo-Nazis and their armed criminals released from prisons – everything is indifferent.

    It is also obvious to us that Western patrons are simply pushing the Kiev authorities to continue the bloodshed. They are being supplied with more and more weapons, intelligence, and other assistance, including military advisers and mercenaries.

    They have also chosen as a weapon economic, financial, trade and other sanctions against Russia, which are now hitting the Europeans and Americans themselves, by the way, through rising prices of gasoline, energy, food, through the loss of jobs associated with the Russian market. And you must not, as they say, put the blame on our country.

    I want the ordinary citizens of Western countries to hear me as well: they are now trying to persuade you that all your difficulties are the result of some hostile actions of Russia, that your own purse should be used to pay for the fight against the mythical Russian threat. All of this is a lie.

    The truth is that the current problems faced by millions of people in the West are the result of years of action, error, short-sightedness, and ambition on the part of the ruling elites of their states. These elites are not thinking about how to improve the lives of their citizens in Western countries. They are obsessed with their own self-interest and super-profits.

    This is evidenced by data from international organizations, which clearly show that social problems, even in the leading Western countries, have only worsened in recent years, that inequality, the gap between rich and poor, and racial and national conflicts are on the rise. The myth of a Western welfare society, of the so-called golden billion, is crumbling.

    I repeat, today the entire planet has to pay the price for the West’s ambitions, for its attempts to maintain its elusive dominance by any means.

    The imposition of sanctions is a logical continuation, a concentrated expression of the irresponsible, short-sighted policy of the governments and central banks of the United States and EU countries. It is they who in recent years have with their own hands unleashed a spiral of global inflation, their actions have led to an increase in global poverty and in inequality, to new flows of refugees around the world. And the question arises: Who will now be responsible for the millions of starving deaths in the world’s poorest countries due to growing food shortages?

    Again, this is a serious blow to the entire global economy and trade, to the credibility of the U.S. dollar as the main reserve currency.
    Thus, illegitimate actions to freeze part of the currency reserves of the Bank of Russia draw a line under the reliability of the so-called first-class assets. In fact, both the U.S. and the EU have declared a real default on their obligations to Russia. Now everyone knows that financial reserves can be simply stolen. And, seeing this, many countries may begin in the near future – I am sure this will happen – to convert their paper and digital savings into real reserves in the form of commodities, land, food, gold, other real assets, which will only increase the deficit in these markets.

    I would add that the seizure of foreign assets and accounts of Russian companies and individuals is also a lesson for national business, that there is nothing more reliable than investing in one’s own country. I told this myself more than once.

    We appreciate the position of those foreign companies that, despite the unscrupulous pressure from the United States and their vassals, continue to work in our country. In the future, they will surely get additional opportunities for development.

    We also know those who cowardly betrayed their partners, forgot about their responsibility to their employees and clients in Russia, and rushed to earn illusory dividends on their participation in the anti-Russian campaign. At the same time, unlike Western countries, we will respect property rights.

    What do I want to emphasize? We need to clearly understand that a new package of sanctions and restrictions against us would have followed in any scenario. I want to stress this. Our military operation in Ukraine is just a pretext for the West to impose new sanctions. Yes, of course, they are concentrated now. But the referendum in Crimea, which took place, incidentally, on March 16, 2014, exactly eight years ago, in the course of which the residents of Crimea and Sevastopol made their free choice to join their historic homeland, was the same [reason] for them, for Westerners.

    Let me repeat: we are only talking about occasions. But the policy of containing and weakening Russia, including through economic isolation and blockade, is a conscious, long-term strategy. Western leaders themselves are no longer hiding the fact that sanctions are not aimed at individuals or companies; their goal is to hit our entire domestic economy, our social and humanitarian sphere, every family, every citizen of Russia.

    In fact, such steps aimed at worsening the lives of millions of people have all the hallmarks of aggression, a war by economic, political and informational means. It is total and unconcealed, and, I repeat, the so-called Western political elite are not even shy about speaking about it in plain words.
    All the verbal tinsel about political correctness, inviolability of private property, freedom of speech – all of this disappeared overnight. Even the Olympic principles were trampled. They were not shy about settling scores with the Paralympians either – that’s how “sports outside politics” is.

    In many Western countries, people just for the fact that they come from Russia are being persecuted today: they refuse medical care, expel children from schools, put their parents out of work, ban Russian music, culture and literature. In attempting to “abolish” Russia, the West stripped itself of all masks of decency, began to act in a boorish manner, and demonstrated its true nature. Direct analogies are just begging to be drawn with the anti-Semitic pogroms carried out by the Nazis in Germany in the 1930s and later by their henchmen from many European countries who joined Hitler’s aggression against our country during the Great Patriotic War.

    Against Russia deployed a massive attack in cyberspace. The unprecedented information campaign in which the global social networks and all western mass media which objectivity and independence have appeared simply a myth is unleashed. Access to information is restricted, people are flooded with a huge number of fakes, propaganda fakes, in other words, fakes. It has gone so far that one of the American social networks has directly stated that publications calling for the murder of Russian citizens are possible.

    We understand what resources this empire of lies has, but it is still powerless against truth and justice. Russia will consistently make its position known to the world. Our position is honest and open, and more and more people hear it, understand it and share it.

    I want to say very frankly: there are hostile geopolitical goals behind the hypocritical talks and current actions of the so-called collective West. They do not need, simply do not need, a strong and sovereign Russia; they will not forgive us for our independent course or for defending our national interests.

    We remember how they supported separatism, terrorism, encouraging terrorists and bandits in the North Caucasus. As they did in the 1990s and early 2000s, they want to repeat their attempt to crush us, to crush us again, to drive us beyond Mozhai, to turn us into a weak, dependent country, to break our territorial integrity, to dismember Russia in the best way for them. It didn’t work then, it won’t work now.

    Yes, of course, they will try to bet on the so-called fifth column, on the national traitors, on those who make money here, in our country, and live there, and “live” not even in the geographical sense of the word, but according to their thoughts, their slave consciousness.

    I don’t condemn those who have a villa in Miami or on the French Riviera, who can’t do without foie gras, oysters or so-called gender freedoms. That is absolutely not the problem, but, I repeat, the problem is that many of these people are mentally there, not here, not with our people, not with Russia. This is, in their opinion – in their opinion! – a sign of belonging to a higher caste, to a higher race. Such people are ready to sell their mother, just to be allowed to sit in the hallway of this highest caste. They want to be like her, imitating her in every possible way. But they forget or do not understand at all that this so-called higher caste even needs them, but as expendable material to use them to cause maximum damage to our people.

    The collective West is trying to split our society by speculating on combat losses, on the socio-economic consequences of sanctions, to provoke civil confrontation in Russia, and, using its fifth column, is striving to achieve its goal. And the goal is the same, I have already said about it – the destruction of Russia.

    But any nation, and especially the Russian people, can always distinguish the true patriots from the scum and traitors, and simply spit them out, like a gnat that accidentally flew into their mouths, spit them out on the panel. I am convinced that this natural and necessary self-cleansing of society will only strengthen our country, our solidarity, unity and readiness to meet any challenge.

    The so-called collective West and its fifth column are used to measuring everything and everyone by themselves. They think that everything can be bought and sold, so they think that we will break down and retreat. But they do not know our history and our people well.

    Yes, many countries in the world have long ago reconciled themselves to living with their backs bowed and subserviently accepting all the decisions of their sovereign, looking at him subserviently in the eye. Many countries live this way. Unfortunately, in Europe as well.

    But Russia will never be in such a pathetic and humiliated state, and the fight we are waging is a fight for our sovereignty, for the future of our country and our children. We will fight for the right to be and remain Russia. Our example is the courage and steadfastness of our soldiers and officers, the faithful defenders of the Fatherland.

    Dear colleagues!

    It is obvious that the current events draw a line under the global domination of Western countries both in politics and economy. Moreover, they call into question the economic model that in recent decades has been imposed on developing countries and the whole world in general.

    Let me stress: the sanctions obsession of the U.S. and its supporters is not shared by the countries where more than half of the world’s population lives. It is these states that represent the fastest growing, most promising part of the global economy. Russia is one of them.

    Yes, it is not easy for us right now. Russian financial companies, large enterprises, small and medium-sized businesses are facing unprecedented pressure.

    The banking system was the first to be hit by the sanctions, but Russian banks have managed to cope with this challenge. Working literally around the clock, they continue to make payments and settlements for citizens and ensure the activities of businesses.

    The second wave of sanctions was designed to provoke panic in the trade sector. According to estimates, over the past three weeks additional demand for goods exceeded one trillion rubles. But domestic producers, suppliers, transport and logistics companies have done everything to avoid a large-scale shortage in retail networks.
    I would like to express my gratitude to the Russian business community, the labor collectives of companies, banks and organizations that not only provide an effective response to the sanctions challenges, but also lay the foundation for further sustainable development of our economy. And separately, I would like to acknowledge the Government, the Bank of Russia, the heads of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation, and regional and municipal teams. In the current challenging environment, you are responsibly addressing the challenges you face
    Obviously, they have not succeeded in organizing an economic blitzkrieg against Russia, demoralizing our society, and taking us by force, so we are likely to see attempts to increase the pressure on our country. But we will overcome these difficulties too. The Russian economy will definitely adapt to the new realities. We will strengthen our technological and scientific sovereignty, we will direct additional resources towards supporting agriculture, the manufacturing industry, infrastructure, and housing construction, and we will continue to develop foreign trade relations, counting on fast-growing, dynamic international markets.

    Undoubtedly, the new realities will require deep structural changes in our economy, and I will not hide it, they will not be easy, they will lead to a temporary increase in inflation and unemployment.

    Our task in this situation is to minimize such risks. Not only to strictly fulfill all social obligations of the state, but also to launch new, more effective mechanisms to support citizens and their incomes.

    The focus of attention is protection of maternity, childhood, and support of families with children. From April 1, it has already been decided – as you know – to introduce payments for children aged 8 to 16, inclusive, who are brought up in families with low incomes. The amount will be half to one subsistence minimum for each child of that age. Now it is on average up to 12,300 rubles across the country. Thus, we will have a unified system of support from the moment when the expectant mother is still expecting a child, and until the child reaches the age of 17.

    I charge the government to ensure that this system works in such a way that it promptly takes into account changes in the financial situation of families. That is, if parents have experienced job loss or other difficult life circumstances, the family should begin to receive help from the state as quickly as possible.

    I also ask the Government to quickly analyze the effectiveness of support measures for people who have lost their jobs. It is clear that these measures must be expanded, including through the mechanism of the social contract.

    I understand that people’s incomes are seriously affected by rising prices, so we will soon take a decision to increase all social payments, including allowances and pensions, raise the minimum wage and the subsistence level, and increase wages in the public sector. I ask the Government to calculate the exact parameters of such an increase.

    And I emphasize: even in the current difficult situation at the end of the year, we need to achieve a reduction in the level of poverty and inequality. This is a quite feasible task even today. I ask the Government and the regions to focus on achieving this task. And I would like to add that it is not only of an economic nature, as we all understand, but is also a matter of social justice.

    Right now, a great deal depends on the initiative of the heads of the regions, on their willingness to take responsibility. Today, I signed a decree giving additional powers to regional heads – they will be able to make flexible and prompt decisions to support our citizens, our economy, and the social sphere based on the real situation on the ground. I would like to remind you that this is the logic that allows us to take into account the situation in every region, every town, every village – and this is not the same everywhere – and this is how we have built our counter-coronavirus measures.

    I am instructing all branches of the federal government in the regions to coordinate their work with the regional authorities in the next six months, and for governors to create operational headquarters to ensure economic development, and to personally lead this work.

    What should be the priority here?

    The key role in overcoming the current problems must be played by private business, which is able in a short time to restructure logistics, find new suppliers, and increase production of products which are in demand. On how quickly private business will find the necessary solutions and make them, depends the preservation of employment, income and wages of citizens, and generally ensuring the stable, rhythmic operation of the economy. Therefore, we must respond to external pressure with maximum entrepreneurial freedom and support for business initiatives.

    I ask the Government, law enforcement agencies and supervisory authorities to continue their work to remove unjustified administrative and regulatory barriers. All the more so, we cannot distract business and regional authorities from solving the most pressing, urgent problems by burdening them with all kinds of inspections and control measures.

    One of the key problems for businesses now is the shortage of working capital, the inaccessibility and high cost of credit, but the Central Bank was forced to take appropriate measures. In this regard, I instruct to implement the following steps.
    First. Enterprises that fulfill the orders of the authorities and companies with state participation should receive money for delivered goods and services as quickly as possible and put them back into business. In this regard, I propose to increase the amount of advance payments under government contracts. Advance should be not less than half of the total amount of the contract, and the term of payment for goods and services supplied should be reduced to seven working days. A similar decision must also be taken at the level of federal subjects, municipalities and companies with state participation.

    Second. We must expand the opportunities for entrepreneurs to raise additional resources from development institutes. We are talking about expanding the work of the Project Finance Factory (it works here, and works well; practice has shown it to be in demand), about providing resources for business investment plans through the Industrial Development Fund (one of the really good tools), the Bank for Small and Medium Business, and, in addition, through regional support institutions, including guarantee funds. I instruct the Government to allocate additional funds to the constituent entities of the Federation for such regional instruments.

    I would like to draw the attention of the Government and our colleagues in the regions to the following: the most important task is to ensure the availability of goods on the consumer market, first and foremost, I mean essential goods, medicines, and medical products. It is necessary to promptly solve logistics and other objective problems that lead to price spikes. At the same time we must eliminate manual intervention in the regulation of prices. It is an increase in supply that should lead to a reduction and stabilization of prices.

    Separately, I want to address our exporters. In a situation when there are difficulties with supplies to foreign markets, we must not cut production, but, on the contrary, send additional volumes of goods to the domestic market. This should objectively lead to lower prices inside the country, including prices for gasoline, diesel, bitumen, metals, and other export goods. I ask the Government and the Federal Antimonopoly Service, as well as the regional authorities, to constantly monitor the situation on these markets.

    Next. Given the new challenges Russia is facing, we must maintain and expand our long-term development agenda, including the continuation of all planned projects at both the federal and regional levels. We must make full use of our budget system’s potential as an incentive tool.

    Federal financing for projects and construction projects will be provided in full, as agreed. Moreover, even back in December, we decided to provide additional funding if the cost of construction has increased objectively.

    I think it is important to note that in the current situation, there will be no problems with funding from the federal budget. Our economy today generates a sufficient and good amount of revenue, and this means that we will not need to resort to emission. Simply put, the Central Bank will not need to print money. We have revenues – market-based, healthy revenues. The problem now is not money. We have the resources, I’ll say it again. The key difficulties are related to the supply of components, equipment, construction materials, and the organization of the contractors’ work. Therefore, the timing and methods of implementation of specific projects and their stages may change, and this will require coordinated work between the authorities and business representatives, and the forced implementation of import substitution projects – this is what is important.

    It is important to simplify the order of interaction between the regions and federal authorities, to give the subjects of the Federation more freedom in maneuvering with resources, as well as opportunities to launch new constructions and programs.

    For example, the regions have already been allocated additional funds for road construction. I am asking the Government to work on the issue of increasing funding for other infrastructure facilities that can already be put to work this year, as well as on increasing purchases from Russian companies, including for the renovation of public transport, for example.

    It is clear that the budgets of Russia’s regions are now under a serious additional burden, so, as we agreed, we are additionally indexing fiscal capacity equalization subsidies. We will also be using other measures to support regional finances, namely, all budgetary loan repayments scheduled for this year will be deferred and shifted to the right, so to speak, while commercial loan repayments, where necessary, will be replaced with budgetary loans. I ask the Government to study this issue in detail, and to delve into each specific case. Only this individual work will lead to the desired result.

    In addition, the Ministry of Finance will provide an unconditional credit line to each region of the Russian Federation. It will amount to ten percent of the total volume of revenues with a maturity date not earlier than the end of this year.
    We will maintain the volume of infrastructure budget loans. I am instructing the Government to organize flexible management of this program, taking into account all the difficulties associated with the implementation of projects – I have already talked about them above. Regions must be able to quickly make decisions on changing the portfolio and content of projects, and focus on those that can be implemented with maximum efficiency under current conditions. If necessary, we will consider a possible increase in the volume of infrastructure loans. It is possible, it can be done. On the whole, we will closely monitor the situation with regional finances and take additional decisions to support them, if necessary.

    I want to stress that direct communication between all levels of power and a clear-cut algorithm are crucial now. The State Council and its specialist commissions have already proven their effectiveness. I ask the State Governance Committee headed by Sergei Sobyanin to work together with our Government colleagues to identify problematic issues on the regional agenda, develop the best solutions and apply them to all of Russia’s regions. We have had good experience in dealing with the epidemic.

    Dear colleagues!

    Our economy, the state budget and private business have all the resources we need to tackle long-term challenges. All the strategic, national goals we have set for the period until 2030 must be achieved. The current challenges and the opportunities they present should only mobilize us, and that is what we should set ourselves up for, aiming to achieve tangible results in the interests of our citizens.

    It is clear that our programs will need to be fine-tuned, and the initiatives of the business community, scientists, and public associations are needed here. In this regard, I ask the regions to get actively involved in organizing the Agency for Strategic Initiatives’ Strong Ideas for New Times forum, where every citizen of Russia will be able to present their proposals and concrete projects aimed at developing their city, region, and country as a whole.

    I will repeat: the current situation is certainly a test for all of us. I’m sure we will pass it with dignity; with hard work, joint work and mutual support we will overcome all the difficulties and become even stronger, as we have always been in the history of millennial Russia. This is the kind of work I want to set you up for.
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    Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky (R) at the World Economic Forum (WEF) 2020 meeting in Davos following behind WEF Chairman Klaus Schwab’s footsteps, not only physically but also ideologically. Zelensky announced Ukraine would be the first nation to implement virtually all the Great Reset’s key hallmarks, including its own nationwide version of the infamous social credit model paired with a universal basic income-style helicopter money system. (Image: FABRICE COFFRINI/AFP via Getty Images)
    Ukraine has been stealthily working hard on fulfilling all boxes of the World Economic Forum’s (WEF) Great Reset checklist: digital identity, vaccination passports, universal basic income (UBI), and a social credit system in one.

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    The Truth Behind Ukraine v Russia – Is the Evil Within?
    Back in 2014, the people were upset that the US was selecting the new leadership following the fall of Yanukovich. They were told if they revolted against the new regime, that they would receive no support from the West. The revolution was the people but everyone from the US to George Soros were desperately trying to steer things in their direction for regime change.
    The Neocons, which included John McCain, have been using Ukraine as the vanguard in a proxy war with Russia. Of course, in military terms, the vanguard is the leading part of an advancing military formation. They are typically the first to die. John McCain was there at Maidan telling the people “I am with you” giving the impression that the United States was standing behind their revolution. YouTube has curiously removed that video to clean up the truth that just maybe the Neocons have been behind this whole mess.
    It was the leaked phone call between Victoria Nuland and the Ambassador to Ukraine. Nuland is the chief Neocon that works from inside every administration running a government within a government. That is different from the Deep State which is interested in domestic power. That leaked phone call showed that the Neocons were deciding who should run Ukraine and Biden would be sent in for an at-a-boy to project the image of the full power of the United States was behind them. None of this is ever told to Congress and Congress seems to avoid asking any questions perhaps out of fear. This is NEVER a policy that is ever told to the people no less approved by Congress. It is always a government within our government that hides behind wrapping themselves in the American flag.
    The strategy of the Neocons is always to demonize their opponent. McCain propagated the claim that Putin wanted to restore the Soviet Union. Well in 22 years, he has not taken any such steps to restore the borders or communism. Nevertheless, it is good propaganda just as they turned that strategy of hatred against Trump to remove him from office. Trump, like Kennedy, refused to engage in their endless wars. They assassinated Kennedy but demonized Trump and throughout his entire 4 years, all they did was create the fake Russiagate demonizing Russia and Putin in one move.
    Of all the officials that Putin named in his sanctions on individuals, the one most curious was Hillary Clinton. I have stated before that the Bankers who engaged in blackmailing Yelstin (see the Forecaster) in their covert attempt to take over Russia was with the approval of Hillary, who is herself a Neocon. Hillary paid for the fictitious Russian dossier to create Russiagate against Trump and it was John McCain for handed it to James Comey to start the FBI investigation. When Comey took in Hillary for questioning, he never took notes to ensure she could never be prosecuted for perjury.
    It was John McCain who sponsored the Magnitsky Act as a cover-up for their failed attempt to take over Russia (See documentary Behind the Scenes). Magnitsky was the accountant for Hermitage Capital, not the lawyer, run by Edmon Safra and Bill Browder. Of course, Browder likes to call himself Putin’s Number One Enemy, but Putin did not include him in the list of these sanctions – it was Hillary.
    The Neocons cannot sleep at night as long as Russia and China still exist. They have been putting out BS that Russia was losing when Putin was
    holding back and had no intention of conquering Ukraine. When Zelensky would not compromise taking his orders from the Neocons, Putin then went on the offensive. That column of tanks was just sitting there as a threat but Zelensky was taking his orders from someone else. Zelensky did nothing but try to get the West involved in WWIII which has been the objective of the Neocons. Zelensky’s Congress speech was another publicity stunt but he could not get the invasion of the West for the military knows well that such a movie will engulf all of Europe.
    Putin could have wiped out Ukraine in 3 days. He held back because occupying Ukraine was never his objective and the propaganda from the Neocons that Putin wanted to restore the Soviet Union has been proven to be nonsense. Unfortunately for the Ukrainians, not only were they not winning, they were deliberately used by the Neocons as the vanguard in this desperate attempt to create WWIII to destroy Russia and then China.

    The handwriting is on the wall. Zelensky had better take the deal to surrender the two provinces as the Minsk Agreement stated in 2014 for which he was elected to REDUCE tension with Russia, end this idea of joining NATO, and end the bull**** claim on Crimea. He has put his citizens in the line of fire for the Neocons who could care less about the people, their objective is to destroy Russia at any cost. This has not been in the interest of Ukraine. It has been just a proxy fight for the Neocons
    These Neocons are a government within a government. They operate under their own rules and are not subject to oversight. Senator Rubio quickly changed the subject when questioning Victoria Nuland and then subsequently the Senate has been desperately trying to undo that testimony pretending that there is a distinction between a Biolab for Research and a Biolab for weapons.
    A gun is just a gun and it has no will of its own. But in the hands of a policeman, it is a defensive weapon but in the hands of a criminal, it is suddenly offensive. Studying a virus and experimenting with gain-of-function caused COVID. There is no distinction and this is all total propaganda to cover up what the Neocons have been doing and will continue to do until they get their way – WWIII.
    I support my friends in Ukraine. I hope one day they will get a leader of their own who cares about his own country and its people. Zelensky is not that person. He has been funded covertly through dubious means that link Soros and he has joined the WEF’s Young Global Leaders.
    Meanwhile, Putin has delivered a speech that I believe will go down in history with hindsight. Putin described the end of Western domination and the consequences that will pay for the whole planet. He also announced the end of the oligarchs and the implementation of models of nationalization of some industries. In reality, the sizing of assets in the West of oligarchs thinking that would hurt Putin was just revenge for Bill Browder and it actually strengthened Putin by eliminating people who would perhaps try to fund a revolution against him to keep wealth and control.
    Putin in a recent speech on March 17th actually called them “traitors and bastards”, of the “fifth phalanx”, while he spoke of “self-purification of society” in Russia. People do not understand Putin. He really sees himself as a patriot and he puts the country first. When you have wealth, you do not rob a Seven-Eleven. He is seeking a legacy in the history of Russia. Browder was seeking revenge for his seizure of Hermitage Capital and the entire scheme to take over Russia to exploit its gold, platinum, oils, diamonds, and rare earths. As I said, I was solicited to invest $10 billion into Hermitage Capital. So I know the real story and listened to the sales pitch to get me to join, which I declined.
    Putin’s latest speech shows that the Neocon narrative is propaganda. Putin is effectively severing Russia from the West’s economy and is seeking more independence and in league with China. He has expressed disgust about how the West is canceling all Russian culture which was exemplified by the NY Met firing an opera singer simply because she was Russian.

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    I thought the report linked in the tweet was more balanced than most things published, it was refreshing to read. Here's an extract talking about the second wave refugees who were less affluent.
    https://towardfreedom.org/story/arch...ees-oligarchs/
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    Contrary to the narratives with which the Western public has been inundated, Ukrainian refugees expressed largely divergent positions on the causes and potential outcomes of the conflict. This reporter witnessed EU-zone reporters gravitating toward the far fewer refugees who held pro-Kyiv positions. Not a single foreign press crew had a Russian- or Ukrainian-speaking member in tow, making it less likely they would hear from working-class Ukrainians, who mainly spoke Ukrainian or Russian.

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