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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    This is a more accurate detail on what I posted earlier. The command center was full of commanders:



    In Nikolaevka in the suburbs of Kiev, Russian servicemen took control of a protected, buried command post of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. 61 Ukrainian servicemen of the command post voluntarily surrendered, among them more than half were senior officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.



    So, you have, potentially, there, a whole lot of confession, except I am sure they would not have any top level clearance about Hunter Biden, because there is no such thing anyway. Maybe they can help incriminate NED. That was exciting news! It is what is considered a money laundering service?

    It appears to be a bad scene for international finance along those lines. I guess this is why the politicians are opposed to dismembering it. Well, it is a lot like World War II, they have grossly overestimated their own protection, and grossly underestimated Russia. If anyone would have listened to the Generals, they would have known for a long time that modern Russian weaponry physically removes Armed Forces as we know them. There is no excuse to be surprised by that part. We know that no lives are to be spared in futile provocations. The real surprise was the timing. That was a very good moment to display what the Generals were talking about.


    Currently there is thought to be more buildup along the western frontier possibly including a contingent from Belarus. Because we are not that familiar with the locations, here is a closer look at this week's erasure:


    💥On the night of March 21, high-precision air-launched cruise missiles struck the Training Centre for Foreign Mercenaries and Ukrainian Nationalist Formations at Novaya Lyubomirka combined arms training ground in Rovenskaya region. More than 80 mercenaries and nationalists were killed.


    That one is in this area, next door to the first strike on international peacekeepers:





    Again, sure, you can send in stuff, and people. There is the expectation that insurgency in this country will probably go on for years, like in Syria. Well, the Syrians have found a way to go on with only controlling the main bloc of their country. Everything near Turkey is still a mess, and the U. S. is still projecting from Al Tanf. Nevertheless, Dr. Assad personally went to Abu Dhabi UAE, which means there is greater likelihood of Syria re-joining the fold of Arab nations than "he will go".

    Here of course the equivalent would be the Baby Twins. And even though Russia may say they are not intentionally removing the Ukranian state, and they may never move in a way that does--that says nothing as to whether there really is such a thing or if it will fragment on its own. We have no recent knowledge of it being able to rise on its own without being, the what? Money Launderer.

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    The following video shows that supposed footage taken of Ukraine was actually taken in Lebanon:

    https://www.brighteon.com/793b6cd2-a...1-e0500190488f

    Source: https://www.brighteon.com/embed/793b6cd2-a956-4254-b171-e0500190488f
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    There are so many details that you really have to dig to get to some of the noticeable parts. Earlier we had noticed the arrival of a National Guard in Putin's personal command; it appears to have secured an area used for the relocation of the Greek Consul. I am not aware of how he got out. We are now told that this National Guard has not just been sitting in one place:



    Additionally, on March 20, Russia’s Rosgvardia announced that servicemen of the department had captured several leaders of Ukrainian nationalist formations in the village of Izyum, Kharkiv Region. According to the released data, military personnel and employees of several special forces also seized important documents and captured “several accomplices of the SBU” (Security Service of Ukraine).



    That makes multiple leaders of various kinds who were allowed to plead Option A, "do not shoot me in the head today". Again we get the feeling this is a limited-time offer.


    Now, in terms of the effectiveness of the arms supply. Well there are still Tochkas which made a few more attempts but were blocked. Those are really dangerous. As for the other stuff, estimates range in the following:

    NLAWS, three or four hits out of hundreds of attempts.

    Javelin, nothing reported despite many attempts, same as in Syria.

    Stinger MANPAD, mostly going unused. One helicopter pilot claims to have made it through fifteen shots from them.


    What is so strange is that the U. S., after demanding Turkey not acquire the S-400 in the first place, is now trying to tell them to give it to Ukraine. Instead, they may be compelled to de-list the IRGC as a terror organization. Obviously, if Ukraine had been able to gather the larger weapons if it had joined NATO, then yes, they would be inflicting a lot worse damage in exchange. But it is too late to get them there. They might have attacked Russia, blamed Russia, joined, and had that stuff within a couple of years.

    Why are countries so quiet about their mercenaries? It was easier to reveal the underground pipelines in Syria and Yemen. Those guys speak foreign languages and no questions asked! No paper airplanes, no chewing gum. But they taught us about obscure places like "Tunisia" and "Dagestan"! If you killed eighty people, you were almost guaranteed to find one of those, or the other. Maybe today's equivalents are "Luxemburg" and "Monaco" and they just won't admit it. It's all just statistics, unless you are making up a lie, because lies only happen to real people. That is how money works.

    No Russian units have been rotated out, but several Ukranian brigades have been removed. That apparently is easier than re-routing one's foreign accounts into some traditional tax haven like the Bahamas. I bet Ukranian laws allow them to do everything they're doing and they'll just get away with it. Phooey. Maybe all you can do is just shut it down. At some point, a large number of provable facts will overturn the target's Reputation, and it will be understood that the media plus Democracy is Money Laundering, which is not allowed in a spiritualized area. So, sometimes they knock over the table of the Pharisees as a little reminder.

    The implicated parties only consist of two American presidential dynasties, as well as some well-known European pillars of wealth. The Ukranians even have some of their own crooks, who mostly have already fled the country. How is that supposed to show confidence in the system? It's like he doesn't even have to do the same thing as poor people on the same side. We'll probably wind up with one of them as the Senator of Massachusetts. Might be easy. I'm still waiting for those high-profile suicides to start coming in. Enough mysterious deaths of persons suspected of dissent or subject to unknown medical experiments, we want to see rats off the sinking ship. Very morbid! It should be just like the Great Depression, only much worse, since that was at least partially to the advantage of those who prepared it, versus their less-fortunate followers. This time is more like a punch in the kisser to those who expect to be undisturbed.

    Here, a state just automatically exterminated almost a hundred thousand birds due to the appearance of a Bird Flu.

    It's just not a good time for any material that might possibly show a gain of function as to why birds are suddenly such a threat to humans. Are we then going to be asked to buy a can of spray and hose them as if they were mosquitoes? Will we find a way to entirely replace them in the ecosystem by plastic? There is no telling what Capitalism can do for you. It can even drag you along feebly through a system that has only been depressed and not destroyed.

    How, exactly, European states can go along with decisions that in the near term are obviously somewhat destructive towards their own well-being is baffling. Here, everyone is insulated by large oceans, which are really just beaches with a picture of the sun. I can understand how easy it is for them not to care about anything that is not stupid. Even Swiss experts know you're not going to get seven hundred million anything out of five cows and a pear tree. You can only get away from the United States, because it's not there. It won't do anything for you anymore, because it wouldn't be in the name of Democracy, because you have already been attacked. If, in the name of Democracy, you say you are attacking it, then, we can put all our massive military to the shores and wait around. That would probably be a significant boost. All you have to do is something, very small, occasionally, like fly an airplane near Greenland, and these people will be happy to cower in fear forever.

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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    We threatened someone's Reputation recently by an accumulation of facts. It's not enough. Meanwhile there are a lot of non-factual things that are verging on libels and slanders.


    Well, if this was just some petty bickering, no one would care, but I am not the one trying to sever ties and make the world more difficult. So now I have a lot of Pigs trying to trifle with the Baklava. It's not funny and it is very unwelcome. Now we went through this one time already when western bands dissolved the ideological Iron Curtain that had been artificially used to isolate our cultures against one another. And so we can be completely sure that in the interest of the common person, it is not in their interest. And now it is happening again. This time is unfortunate because we want the Russian bands to come out and play. Excessive travel restrictions don't help. For example:

    In 2007, for the first time, the band was able to perform outside of Russia, touring Ukraine, Belarus, Slovakia and the Czech Republic, where they were warmly received.


    These are pure Russian compared to other ones I posted. Here are a couple of spectacular performances by:


    Alkonost (Harpy or Alcyone)


    Part of the intention of the sound is to remove the artificial nonsense. It is not really to pacify you. It is to make you fight on the right side. That is included in:


    Neskazanniy Svet (Ineffable Light) 2011





    It is a spiritual song and the girl is mostly singing about entering divine light, and the guy does something to the effect:

    But you disappeared, were you dreaming, in a false light?


    Well, again, that is more or less the same view that is being spoken today. So there is nothing much inside that one besides the truth.


    Here is one taken from traditional Russian music by Anatoly Tyutin.

    Mermaid (festival FSF-2016)

    Whatever is happening here is indescribable. They put you in a place hard to get.






    It is relatively easy to prove they were singing Putin's current strategy in the 90s. Obviously whoever thwacked Yugoslavia wasn't listening. Poor choice. They are still going. Almost thirty years. That is what happens when you remove the oppression.

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    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    • Transcript of Putin’s full speech:
    We are meeting at a difficult time, when our Armed Forces are conducting a special military operation in Ukraine and Donbass. Let me remind you that at its very beginning, in the early morning of February 24, I publicly and openly stated the reasons and the main goal of Russia’s actions.

    It is to help our people in the Donbass, who for almost eight years have been subjected to the most barbaric methods – blockade, large-scale punitive actions, terrorist attacks and constant artillery shelling – a real genocide. And for what? Only because they sought elementary human rights – to live by the laws and traditions of their ancestors, to speak their native language, to raise their children the way they wanted.

    At the same time, the authorities in Kyiv have not only ignored and sabotaged the implementation of the Minsk Package of Measures to peacefully resolve the crisis over all these years, but at the end of last year they refused to implement it in public.

    They have also begun the practical implementation of plans to join NATO. Moreover, the Kyiv authorities also announced their intention to build their own nuclear weapons and the means of their delivery. This was a real threat. Already in the foreseeable future, with foreign technical assistance, the pro-Nazi regime in Kiev could get its hands on weapons of mass destruction, and its target would, of course, be Russia.

    There was also a network of dozens of laboratories in Ukraine where military biological programs, including experiments with samples of coronavirus, anthrax, cholera, African swine fever, and other deadly diseases were conducted under the direction and financial support of the Pentagon. Traces of these secret programs are now being strenuously covered up. But we have every reason to believe that components of biological weapons were in fact created in the immediate vicinity of Russia, on Ukrainian territory.

    Our repeated warnings that this development posed a direct threat to Russia’s security were rejected by Ukraine and its US and NATO patrons with ostentatious and cynical disregard.

    Thus, all diplomatic options have been completely exhausted. We were simply left with no options to resolve peacefully the problems that arose through no fault of our own. And so we were simply forced to launch a special military operation.


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    That was one helluva speech - such a shame that very few of the public in the West will ever see it or even want to see it because the brainwashing against Russia and Putin from the MSM and the Government is so thorough...
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    For those of you with some time (just over an hour) Vanessa Beeley here with Dilyana Gaytandzhieva discuss..

    Pentagon Biolabs in Ukraine and the Threat of Ethnic Bio-warfare

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    Her work has been covered on the thread before but this is still a very worthwhile listen.

    Vanessa's show brief:

    My conversation with courageous Bulgarian journalist and documentary maker Dilyana Gaytandzhieva who broke the story of NATO supplying weapons to Al Qaeda in Syria from Bulgaria - and then went on to expose the Obama-incubated Pentagon global Biolab program in Georgia and Ukraine.

    As Dilyana points out, the biolabs are strategically placed on the borders of Russia, Iran and China, the perceived "enemies" of the West and a threat to US unipolarity.

    The creation of these programs in these countries also circumvents the 1972 Geneva Convention on the prohibition of development and production , stockpiling of bio and chemical weapons ratified by the US in 1973.

    We cover Dilyana's four year investigation into the Pentagon projects including her on the ground report in Tblisi, Georgia. While many people are dismissing the existence of these labs as "Russian fearmongering" Dilyana explains why these clandestine, protected programs are a threat to all of us.

    WARNING: Some distressing information regarding the atrocities committed against Bulgarian nationals who refused to join the ranks of the Ukrainian fascist brigades to ethnically cleanse Lugansk and Donetsk for the last eight years.


    Link to Dilyana's website: dilyana.bg/
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    Source: https://twitter.com/EnglerYves/statu...71941232353284

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    Oh dear....

    I watched this to see how Trump was thinking and sad to say (IMO) he doesn't get it - he doesn't understand why Russia feels under threat and felt there was no option but to launch this ''special military operation' to try to clean up the problems - I have always felt supportive of Trump - believed he was cheated out of a 2nd term - and I've tried to understand his support of the mass (experimental) vaccination - so I watched this and now I'm.......... WTF.......... he seems to think Putin is a different person to the one he dealt with - that he looks different and I'm not sure if he's hinting that he thinks he IS actually a different person, like a stand in, double or something --- or just that he has changed ---

    The declarations 'he (Putin) would never have done this if I was President' etc and he (Trump) would 'do more' and the clear indication that he would have taken nuclear brinkmanship to the wire over it all.... is concerning to say the least ... I usually hold back from criticizing Trump if possible (because of playing into the hands of the Anti-Trump psyop that has been going on heavily since 2016...) but on this I have to say I'm disappointed - why can't he try to understand the position Russia is in and the security threat they feel - and how if the US was under the same kind of threat they wouldn't just sit back and do nothing... (although with the Deep State Globalists in control maybe they would do nothing if it suited their agenda - dunno - )

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    Trump says US needs to get off the sidelines in Ukraine’s fight for survival
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    'What Happened to People Who Volunteered to Fight For Ukraine?'

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    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/S14_(Ukrainian_group)

    Neo nazis, attacking ethnic minorities, roma etc.

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    Sharp Polish-Hungarian Differences Over Russia Threaten The Visegrad Group’s Unity
    22 MARCH 2022
    Poland and Hungary are now realizing that they have some irreconcilable differences over their respective visions, whether domestic or foreign depending on whichever government rules the second-mentioned country after next month’s elections, so they’ll have to reach some kind of compromise with one another if they want to preserve what they’ve already achieved thus far in this new reality.
    A very serious rift is emerging in Central & Eastern Europe (CEE) between conservative-nationalist allies Poland and Hungary over the extent of “containing” Russia, which threatens to weaken the unity of the same Visegrad Group that’s supposed to function as the core of the Warsaw-led “Three Seas Initiative” (3SI) throughout this geostrategic space. Poland is demanding that everyone in Europe strictly comply with its comprehensive “de-Russification” policies of completely cutting their ties with that Eurasian Great Power. This aspiring regional leader will also officially propose a NATO so-called “peacekeeping mission” to Ukraine that risks provoking World War III considering Russia’s threats to decisively defend its forces from any third parties who interfere with its ongoing special military operation there. All of these policies are self-serving and designed to expand Poland’s “sphere of influence” over the 3SI.

    There’s just one major problem with this and it’s that Poland’s Hungarian allies who’ve thus far stood shoulder-to-shoulder with them against Brussels’ liberal-globalist pressure to their pro-sovereignty domestic reforms in years are completely opposed to these plans. Foreign Minister Szijarto said on Monday that his country is against cutting off energy imports from Russia as well as NATO imposing a “no-fly zone” in Ukraine or dispatching armed “peacekeepers” there. This wasn’t exactly unexpected, however, since those who follow Hungarian affairs know how close that country has become with Russia in recent years. That development wasn’t the result of some “Russian conspiracy” but is purely due to it being in Hungary’s objective national interests as its leadership understands them to be no matter how ridiculously its critics might imagine it to be otherwise.

    The supreme irony is that while Poland and Hungary stood in solidarity with one another against Brussels’ meddling in their internal affairs, now Hungary must stand against Poland’s meddling in its foreign affairs. Despite their leaderships’ ideological closeness when it comes to their shared conservative-nationalist vision at home and for the rest of CEE more broadly, there’s no denying that their differences over Russia are irreconcilable and will very likely lead to some level of distrust developing between them with time. That’s because Poland is resorting to the same sort of hegemonic pressure upon its regional partners as it hypocritically accuses Germany and Russia of exerting upon the 3SI countries, which was one of the reasons behind why it called on them all to come together in the first place, while Hungary’s current leaders won’t sacrifice their national interests for anyone else.

    Budapest would be forgiven for regarding Warsaw’s radical “de-Russification” demands of everyone as a betrayal of their strategic partnership since it likely thought that its partner would temper its expectations of others in the interests of pragmatism owing to the obvious differences between their respective relations with Russia that were developed to advance their national interests. That was a naïve assumption since Hungary didn’t calculate that Poland would revert to its historically hegemonic policies that it practiced for centuries during the time of its former Commonwealth. Budapest thought that the times had changed, but Warsaw still lives in the past exactly as former Russian President Medvedev recently wrote. Viktor Orban’s government will therefore have to accept this new reality as soon as possible in order to formulate the proper policies for best preserving its interests within it.

    Be that as it is, this specific problem might actually end up being a moot one if the incumbent leader is deposed after early April’s upcoming elections like might possibly happen due to the very strong support being provided to the opposition by liberal-globalist forces like the EU and the Soros Foundation, among others. In that scenario, while Hungary might no longer practice conservative-nationalist policies and would therefore be at odds with Poland in this respect, it would likely end up aligning its foreign policy with that aspiring regional leader since the opposition is expected to be almost as fiercely anti-Russian as the Polish leadership presently is. Nevertheless, either outcome still creates a divide within the Visegrad Group that’s supposed to function as the core of Poland’s 3SI since Orban’s victory would worsen foreign policy differences with Warsaw while his loss would worsen domestic ones.

    One way or another, this complicates Poland’s grand strategic plans for exerting post-modern hegemony over CEE through the 3SI. Without Hungary standing in full solidarity with it on both the domestic and foreign policy fronts, Poland will be unable to achieve its maximalist aims for transforming the entire region with time. It’ll ultimately have to accept either focusing on the domestic or foreign policy components pending unpredictable political developments in its partner countries that can’t be foreseen with any confident degree of accuracy at this time. All that’s known for certain at the moment is that Hungary’s incumbent government opposes Poland’s “de-Russification” demands while supporting its domestic conservative-nationalist agenda whereas an opposition-led one would oppose the latter while embracing the former. Either way, Poland can achieve all that it’s aiming for in the region.

    With the Visegrad Group destined to remain very sharply divided in one way or another, Poland’s regional leadership plans through the 3SI will remain limited. It largely requires Hungary fully supporting Poland but that’s no longer possible for the reasons that were explained regardless of which government ends up leading it after next month’s elections. This new reality in the CEE space will also create opportunities for those forces like Germany that are eager to divide and rule these two hitherto allies. Poland and Hungary are now realizing that they have some irreconcilable differences over their respective visions, whether domestic or foreign depending on whichever government rules the second-mentioned country after next month’s elections, so they’ll have to reach some kind of compromise with one another if they want to preserve what they’ve already achieved thus far in this new reality.

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    Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is widely depicted in the west as a brave, freedom-loving leader, notably contrasted with the authoritarian, propaganda-spewing lunatic Vladimir Putin. But Zelensky’s democratic bona fides took a hit over the weekend when he announced the banning – temporarily, at least – of 11 rival political parties deemed too closely aligned with Russia. Oh, and he also consolidated all public television networks into one in order to make sure the Ukrainian people are receiving a unified message about the ongoing war.
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