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    ...

    ... from Jim Stone:
    RUSSIA FIRED A GENUINE NUCLEAR CRUISE MISSILE INTO UKRAINE

    It was carrying a mock up of a real nuclear warhead and was recovered by Ukranian forces. if that is not a shot across the bow I don't know what is, Russia could not have sent a clearer message. Rumor has it that Ukraine shot it down but I suspect it was programmed to gently land where they would see it to make sure the message was delivered. SEE THIS.


    Kh-555 missile. Image via open sources.



    Fragment of downed Kh-55 (X-55) missile. Image credit: Armed Forces of Ukraine via Defense Express

    Why send over a missile without payload if not to make sure it will be recovered and examined and... its missive delivered and acknowledged as received... eh!?

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    Quote Posted by Johnnycomelately (here)
    Hi shaberon. Wasn’t sure who you were spanking until I got down to the Putin quote.

    Not sure what you mean by those kick-outs. How would you characterize the Ugandan asians all getting kicked out of there by Idi, and Jews getting kicked out of anywhere?

    I don't know much about Idi (1970s?).

    It is not possible to understand me unless you understand Jesuitry.

    Around 1770, Jesuits were kicked out of every country, and then shut down. Reason: political meddling. In most cases, they were the first explorers/residents/etc. in places like India or Japan.

    The Ming Empire threw out all Europeans for the same reason, from the early days of first contact/settlement/etc., and as we know, was not opened again until CCCP China, 1978.

    Judaism is rather complicated, but, there are two places they have always been "integrated to the community" and never really a "problem": Iran and China.

    In this thread we have examined the word "pogrom", a nineteenth-century Russian loan word. Where did this mostly happen? Ukraine. Since at least the 1600s, Ukraine has been used repeatedly for this conflict, becoming the main source of "human cattle" for Zionism, 1940s.

    We like to blame them for being "financiers" while ignoring the fact that European Christian laws are what created that situation.


    The point is that Europe doesn't really have any religion. The church of Rome is an apostate, which excommunicated Christians and then waged genocide against them (the Crusades), and so on through the Jesuitry of 1500s colonialism.

    Multiple cultures do, in fact, get along without the imperiousness. In today's Russian forces, we find of course a majority Christian, with Muslims and Buddhists on their side. And so when a Muslim says "we are fighting Satan", and we go back over why they might say that, well...they have historical continuity to something ancient.

    Wave after western wave of aggression has hit India a few times, and Russia a lot. And so the west definitely has a centuries-old identity which they went through a lot of trouble to assert.

    This is what Russia is fighting, and 85% of the world knows the same thing.

    I know it, if only because I "defected", at least mentally, about forty years ago. Why? Because I hadn't found anything of value, and felt that I was being guided by deceptive materialistic forces. We were being told all this stuff about the "Commies", like how Americans used to hide in bomb shelters and all that, and then I just kind of started asking what's so great about an American or so bad about anyone else. And the house of cards fell apart rather easily.

    There is definitely a "system of exploitation" we are trying to expose, which is actually Economics/LSE or Capitalism.

    The personal curse in my life, which reversed all my hard work and well-being, was delivered by a Ugandan Indian...who went to LSE.

    Black magician of high caliber. Everyone who knew me then would agree with that. One clue? When this person enters a room, everyone's throat tightens and their emotions go clammy. Sound familiar to anyone?

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    Thank you for those thoughts. Hey wasn’t the crusades against Muslims?

    Here’s how I think about stuff like that. Sang it in a Canadian Legion hall, ~’93, part of a choir show (2nd of 2 times joining my mom’s church choir for their off-season special concert). Good electric guitar with a fine preamp and dynamic control (Rane DC-something, 24 rings a bell). Had blown my try at our dress rehearsal, but learned the words singing in my helmet for hours, riding to rent a fav mic (sure - 57).

    War of Man
    Neil Young

    The little creatures run in from the cold
    Back to the nest just like the days of old
    There in the safety of a mother's arms
    The warmth of ages, far away from harm again

    Ears ringin' from the battle fire
    The tired warrior aims a little higher
    The black falcon or the little sparrow
    The healing light or the flash of the barrel

    No one wins
    It's a war of man

    No one wins
    It's a war of man

    Silver mane flyin' in the wind
    Down through the planets on the run again
    No one knows where they're runnin' to
    But every kind is comin' two by two

    Out on the delta where the hoofbeats pound
    The daddy's runnin' on the frozen ground
    Can't smell the poison as it follows him
    Can't see the gas and machines, it's a war of man

    No one wins
    It's a war of man

    No one wins
    It's a war of man

    The windows open and the little girl dreams
    The sky's her playground as she mounts her steed
    Across the heavens to the other side
    On wings of magic does the little girl ride

    The baby creatures run in from the cold
    Back to the nest just like the days of old
    There in the safety of a mother's arms
    The warmth of ages, far away from harm again

    No one wins
    It's a war of man

    No one wins
    It's a war of man

    No one wins

    No one wins
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    Quote Posted by Johnnycomelately (here)
    Hi shaberon. Wasn’t sure who you were spanking until I got down to the Putin quote.

    Not sure what you mean by those kick-outs. How would you characterize the Ugandan asians all getting kicked out of there by Idi, and Jews getting kicked out of anywhere?

    I don't know much about Idi (1970s?).

    It is not possible to understand me unless you understand Jesuitry.

    Around 1770, Jesuits were kicked out of every country, and then shut down. Reason: political meddling. In most cases, they were the first explorers/residents/etc. in places like India or Japan.

    The Ming Empire threw out all Europeans for the same reason, from the early days of first contact/settlement/etc., and as we know, was not opened again until CCCP China, 1978.

    Judaism is rather complicated, but, there are two places they have always been "integrated to the community" and never really a "problem": Iran and China.

    In this thread we have examined the word "pogrom", a nineteenth-century Russian loan word. Where did this mostly happen? Ukraine. Since at least the 1600s, Ukraine has been used repeatedly for this conflict, becoming the main source of "human cattle" for Zionism, 1940s.

    We like to blame them for being "financiers" while ignoring the fact that European Christian laws are what created that situation.


    The point is that Europe doesn't really have any religion. The church of Rome is an apostate, which excommunicated Christians and then waged genocide against them (the Crusades), and so on through the Jesuitry of 1500s colonialism.

    Multiple cultures do, in fact, get along without the imperiousness. In today's Russian forces, we find of course a majority Christian, with Muslims and Buddhists on their side. And so when a Muslim says "we are fighting Satan", and we go back over why they might say that, well...they have historical continuity to something ancient.

    Wave after western wave of aggression has hit India a few times, and Russia a lot. And so the west definitely has a centuries-old identity which they went through a lot of trouble to assert.

    This is what Russia is fighting, and 85% of the world knows the same thing.

    I know it, if only because I "defected", at least mentally, about forty years ago. Why? Because I hadn't found anything of value, and felt that I was being guided by deceptive materialistic forces. We were being told all this stuff about the "Commies", like how Americans used to hide in bomb shelters and all that, and then I just kind of started asking what's so great about an American or so bad about anyone else. And the house of cards fell apart rather easily.

    There is definitely a "system of exploitation" we are trying to expose, which is actually Economics/LSE or Capitalism.

    The personal curse in my life, which reversed all my hard work and well-being, was delivered by a Ugandan Indian...who went to LSE.

    Black magician of high caliber. Everyone who knew me then would agree with that. One clue? When this person enters a room, everyone's throat tightens and their emotions go clammy. Sound familiar to anyone?

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    https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status...47490938585089





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    https://twitter.com/MoonofA/status/1593615018238836737



    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/1...ights-off.html

    Ukraine - Switching The Lights Off
    November 18, 2022

    The careful destruction of energy systems in Ukraine continues.

    From today's clobber list as provided by the Defense Ministry of Russia:

    On 17 November, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation launched a concentrated strike, using high-precision long-range air-, sea- and ground-based weapons, at the facilities of military control, defence industry, as well as related fuel and energy infrastructure of Ukraine.
    The goals of the strike have been reached.

    All the missiles have accurately stricken the assigned facilities.

    I have no idea if the last line is true but it does not matter much.

    The targeting of 330 kilovolt transformers in various switching stations has cut some 50% of the distribution capability of Ukraine's electricity network. These transformers weigh up to 200 tons. There are no replacements. You do not buy them at the next corner but will have order them with years of lead time. As far as I can tell Russia is currently Russia the only producer of transformers of that type.

    Isn't it a war crime to destroy the infrastructure that supplies civilians?

    It depends. If the infrastructure is used exclusively for civilian purpose the destruction is illegal. But the electricity and transport infrastructure in Ukraine is used for civilian AND military purposes. In a recent Politico piece Ukrainian officials are even confirming that:

    Ukraine tells allies it may not be able to recover from more Russian attacks on energy systems:

    An unreliable energy sector could have deadly consequences, Ukrainian officials say. In recent conversations, they’ve added that it could halt food production and transport operations — critical services needed to support military operations.
    The clobber list also includes this curious item:

    The strike has resulted in the neutralisation of the production capacities for nuclear weaponry.
    I wonder where and what that has been:

    One depot of artillery armament, delivered by western countries and prepared for being sent to troops, has been destroyed.
    The redeployment of the reserve forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU), and the delivery of foreign armament to operations areas have been frustrated.

    The last sentence describes the real purpose of the attacks on the energy systems.

    The lack of energy is degrading the railway network that brings weapons from the west to the eastern front. It makes redeployment of units from one front section to another very difficult and time consuming. It will give the Russian forces the advantage when they change the Schwerpunkt of their attacks from one corner of the frontline to another.

    Another effect of the strikes on the electricity systems and the blackouts in the big cities that follow them is a renewed stream of refugees that will want reach western Europe. It will over time change the public opinion and the political priorities of those countries. If they fail to end the war they will have to carry the burden.
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    Ukraine Unlikely to Defeat Russian Military Anytime Soon: Milley
    Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff has recently said recently that Ukraine may want to negotiate sooner rather than later with Russia.

    Mark A. Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said at a Wednesday news conference at the Pentagon that it is unlikely that Ukraine will defeat Russian forces in the near future.

    “The probability of a Ukrainian military victory defined as kicking the Russians out of all of Ukraine to include what they define or what the claim is Crimea, the probability of that happening anytime soon is not high, militarily,” he said.

    Milley pointed out that despite recent gains by Ukraine, Russia still controls about 20 percent of the country.


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    It may have been programmed to gently land, but clearly the programe failed.

    Maybe the Russian stock of cruise missiles has run out to the point where they are using their high end nuclear stuff without the extreme warheads. (?)

    Re the transformers -

    A dearth of 330 kw transformers? There are plenty of such advertised online, ready for immediate delivery. A quick search yields …

    Made in China, listed on Alibaba

    https://www.alibaba.com/showroom/330...ansformer.html

    India
    https://www.indiamart.com/proddetail...049225648.html

    Canada
    https://www.3l2r.com/ecommerce/trans...ASAAEgIm3fD_Bw

    and lots of good prices on those that are reconditioned, from the states …
    https://t-r.com/cart.php#!c=a&l=1

    Getting them to where they are needed is indeed a problem, though.

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    Quote Posted by Fellow Aspirant (here)
    It may have been programmed to gently land, but clearly the programe failed.

    Maybe the Russian stock of cruise missiles has run out to the point where they are using their high end nuclear stuff without the extreme warheads. (?)

    Re the transformers -

    A dearth of 330 kw transformers? There are plenty of such advertised online, ready for immediate delivery. A quick search yields …

    Made in China, listed on Alibaba

    https://www.alibaba.com/showroom/330...ansformer.html

    India
    https://www.indiamart.com/proddetail...049225648.html

    Canada
    https://www.3l2r.com/ecommerce/trans...ASAAEgIm3fD_Bw

    and lots of good prices on those that are reconditioned, from the states …
    https://t-r.com/cart.php#!c=a&l=1

    Getting them to where they are needed is indeed a problem, though.

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    Oof


    Quote It may have been programmed to gently land, but clearly the programe failed.
    I suggest you learn a bit about what the speed required by a rocket to reach a far away place causes even after the fuel runs out, and how it affects the landing. Even if empty of fuel and with no warhead, there is a big explosion. If you want to learn about it or not that's up to you. If this is another "research" project that will never happen on your side, then so be it... 'the land is unchanged' either you do or not


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    From your post i can only get two things, mostly

    1. Copium is one hell of a drug. Once you get into it, there's no coming back, now you don't even need a drug government dealer to push you into it, you find your own way to it. It seems like everyone hooked on Copium has no path of recovery, they are left lose to create their own demise. Facts? Who cares, i'll invent my own facts!
    Quote Posted by Fellow Aspirant (here)
    It may have been programmed to gently land, but clearly the programe failed.

    Maybe the Russian stock of cruise missiles has run out to the point where they are using their high end nuclear stuff without the extreme warheads. (?)
    2. So i suppose Elensky and the UkroNazi government are all:

    a. Liars
    b. Corrupt
    c. Scammers
    d. Full of It
    e. All of the above

    Because they immediately claimed it could take a year or more to fix the transformers issue! I suppose they will embezzle all the money sent by you and 'the western partners' and then buy something cheap on alibaba and hope it gets blown up again next week so they don't have to prove they bought some cheap hardware that wasn't going to last for a couple months anyway because it was a cheap produced one

    Let's add f to the list

    f: Genius scammers taking advantage of naive western adults who have the mentality of toddlers who failed kindergarten first grade

    Quote Re the transformers -

    A dearth of 330 kw transformers? There are plenty of such advertised online, ready for immediate delivery. A quick search yields …

    Made in China, listed on Alibaba

    https://www.alibaba.com/showroom/330...ansformer.html

    India
    https://www.indiamart.com/proddetail...049225648.html

    Canada
    https://www.3l2r.com/ecommerce/trans...ASAAEgIm3fD_Bw

    and lots of good prices on those that are reconditioned, from the states …
    https://t-r.com/cart.php#!c=a&l=1
    Quote Getting them to where they are needed is indeed a problem, though.
    Why would that be? With all the most fantastic support from the west, capable enough to leave their own citizens in the cold just to support Ukraine, you would think they have some planes or other means to deliver, i mean they deliver tanks and rockets and AD units every other week, what makes a transformer harder to deliver than a 50 tons tank or howitzer? Imagination or excuses?

    Or is it that only arms that deliver money back to the 'western partners' have priority over things that are not good for the western military complex business, like a transformer would? Last time i checked the military complex doesn't build or sell transformers, so of course it is not on the menu for "aid" to Ukraine lol

    Oh how much i hurt for the growing pains of western adults
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    Quote Posted by Johnnycomelately (here)
    Thank you for those thoughts. Hey wasn’t the crusades against Muslims?

    Partly.

    In the sense of governance, yes. On the ground, however, what happened was widespread mass destruction of Byzantine Christian culture. This was repeated in the same general area, until around 1450, when Turks, originating from western China and not being there by some accident, finished the Byzantines.

    As self-preservation, the cultural sphere of Byzantium moved to St. Petersburg and finally to Moscow.

    On the one hand, thinking of it as the "Eastern Roman Empire" is semi-correct governmentally, and sometimes Moscow is called "New Rome". But actually it is "New Byzantium" because it is not the culture of the city of Rome, which is "western".

    Other Crusades committed by Teutonic Knights vanquished a large swath of eastern Europe, except for the Baltic States, which remained pagan.

    The Roman Catholic Church excommunicated the Orthodox in 1054, and we see what followed.

    Eastern Europe has also been the host of "Orthodox pogroms" many times.

    So, yes, there is this pre-programmed animosity that's kind of hard to miss.

    Fortunately, in the real world, if we tell Orthodox and Muslims to quit punching each other over who's the Prophet, and think about what's important...then yes they can get along a lot better. Then you can have cultural exchange while maintaining diversity. That is where the "collective west" does not have the same kind of seat at the table.

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    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/1...ights-off.html
    [...]
    The targeting of 330 kilovolt transformers in various switching stations has cut some 50% of the distribution capability of Ukraine's electricity network. These transformers weigh up to 200 tons. There are no replacements. You do not buy them at the next corner but will have order them with years of lead time. As far as I can tell Russia is currently Russia the only producer of transformers of that type.
    Yes, that's correct. (As best I know China makes them too, also with a couple of years of lead time.)

    Quote Posted by Fellow Aspirant (here)
    A dearth of 330 kw transformers? There are plenty of such advertised online, ready for immediate delivery. A quick search yields …

    Made in China, listed on Alibaba
    https://www.alibaba.com/showroom/330...ansformer.html

    India
    https://www.indiamart.com/proddetail...049225648.html

    Canada
    https://www.3l2r.com/ecommerce/trans...ASAAEgIm3fD_Bw

    and lots of good prices on those that are reconditioned, from the states …
    https://t-r.com/cart.php#!c=a&l=1

    Getting them to where they are needed is indeed a problem, though.
    Brian, you're getting your watts, volts and amps all mixed up. A 330 kV transformer (330,000 volts) at 15 amps (but maybe the current is a lot more than that) would be 4,950,000 watts.

    This isn't the kind of thing you order on Amazon (or Alibaba!) and pay a little extra for 2-day shipping.
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    Hello Mashika, thought you might like this. roflmao

    enjoy . . .

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/3yFGhmB37r92/


    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video//3yFGhmB37r92/



    I have no idea what she was saying, yet the visuals "spoke" volumes :-)

    ____________________________________________
    The launch of the de-tuned nuke was masterful, absolutely brilliant, especially after the false flag Ukrainian assault on Poland. The whole world witnessed the scam.

    Russian High Command must be laughing their "cocks off" at the incompetence and desperation of the Deep State.

    Next time tell them to fill the missles payload with soft fluffy teddy bears to comfort their relief.

    have a nice day
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    Quote Posted by Snoweagle (here)
    Hello Mashika, thought you might like this. roflmao

    enjoy . . .

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/3yFGhmB37r92/


    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video//3yFGhmB37r92/



    I have no idea what she was saying, yet the visuals "spoke" volumes :-)

    ____________________________________________
    The launch of the de-tuned nuke was masterful, absolutely brilliant, especially after the false flag Ukrainian assault on Poland. The whole world witnessed the scam.

    Russian High Command must be laughing their "cocks off" at the incompetence and desperation of the Deep State.

    Next time tell them to fill the missles payload with soft fluffy teddy bears to comfort their relief.

    have a nice day
    lmao at Elensky's office background scene, thanks!

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    Most amusing how lots of people now suddenly care and post about winter in Ukraine and how hard it is (fact: it is the same in Russia and other post-soviet states, the ones no one know exist or care to mention because they weren't told they are victims that need help or can work as a money laundering machine)

    Doesn't seem they knew/cared about it for the past 2 or 3 hundred years or so... lol
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    Quote Posted by Mashika (here)
    ...

    Most amusing how lots of people now suddenly care and post about winter in Ukraine and how hard it is (fact: it is the same in Russia and other post-soviet states, the ones no one know exist or care to mention because they weren't told they are victims that need help or can work as a money laundering machine)

    Doesn't seem they knew/cared about it for the past 2 or 3 hundred years or so... lol
    I've heard second hand stories from Estonia about their Winters. Canada too . Here in the South of England we have an inch of snow and it's drama time. The rest of the UK is more clued up though, the south east based English media doesn't do the rest of the UK credit sometimes. I learnt a few fire staring tricks from the friend with Estonian experience which had an emphasis on guaranteeing you had a fire in seconds

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    TFIGlobal, independent Indian media, have concluded Western leaders don't want to play with Zelensky any more. TFI report some US Republican party members have decided to stop giving money to Zelensky for military funding. Zelensky was calling for a retaliation on Russia even after presented with evidence the missiles were Ukrainian.


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