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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

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    Jimmy Dore slamming Sean Penn for his ignorant warmongering - calling him 'a tool for evil and murder'...

    Sean Penn Has COMPLETELY Lost His Mind Over Ukraine(16:59)



    Quote 2 Mar 2023 #TheJimmyDoreShow
    Sean Penn recently appeared with CNN’s Wolf Blitzer to advocate for more weapons, more long-range missiles and even F-16s for Ukraine as soon as possible. He lamented the Ukrainian soldiers being slaughtered while calling for more of them to die – and at the same time said we shouldn’t worry about the Ukraine War escalating into World War III because that would just play into the “bully” Russia’s hands.

    Jimmy and Americans’ Comedian Kurt Metzger wonder how a liberal lion like Sean Penn could have become such a reliable mouthpiece for the CIA and military industrial complex.
    There's a great clip of Mick Wallace, MEP for Ireland South (12:08) -

    'NATO is not a defence alliance - it's a war machine'

    'A survey of the European Council of Foreign Relations showed that a vast majority of European citizens want Peace rather than promoting a war that punishes Russia - but NATO never wants Peace - what I want to know is - what do the EU really want...'
    (12:56)

    @13:25... a map showing NATO expansion -
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    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)
    GRAPHIC: please look away if you are of a sensitive disposition. These are being shared simply as a document of but also a necessary reminder of the horror of actual conflict; this isn't a video game, and is as inglorious as any could care to imagine, and isn't being posted with any sense of glorification, at all

    Combat near Kremenna:
    https://avalonlibrary.net/Ukraine/20..._early%29..mp4

    O-Group clean-up near Svatovo zone:
    https://avalonlibrary.net/Ukraine/20...2023-03-04.mp4
    Thanks for this. I find it hard to watch, but I do sample such clips in moderation to get a sense of what is happening.

    This particular scene seemed similar to the kind of actions in forests that have taken place for more than 200 years, since muskets came into use - for example depictions I've seen of the Napoleonic Wars, American Civil War, and the Battle of the Bulge.

    But I am struck that the modern rifle-type weapons are so astonishingly quiet and lightweight! - as well as having much more rapid fire and far more ammunition. All of which makes things even worse for the men, no doubt.
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    NATO military equipment filmed at the port of Gdynia in Poland....

    I find it interesting that there is some kind of Terramar facility in the background ? Maybe its nothing or maybe its one of those human trafficking locations ...
    Why would an non-profit charity organization have an warehouse or some kind of shipping facility ?
    The TerraMar Project was self-described as an environmental nonprofit organization. It was founded in 2012 in the United States by Ghislaine Maxwell.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_TerraMar_Project
    Very well spotted - I totally didn't pay attention to that
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    Quote Posted by Bruce G Charlton (here)
    Thanks for this. I find it hard to watch, but I do sample such clips in moderation to get a sense of what is happening.

    This particular scene seemed similar to the kind of actions in forests that have taken place for more than 200 years, since muskets came into use - for example depictions I've seen of the Napoleonic Wars, American Civil War, and the Battle of the Bulge.

    But I am struck that the modern rifle-type weapons are so astonishingly quiet and lightweight! - as well as having much more rapid fire and far more ammunition. All of which makes things even worse for the men, no doubt.
    Yes, they're definitely hard to watch; I have to brace myself for them to be honest, most of the time.

    Compared to the courage of those men doing the fighting, the courage (if you can call it that) to observe from a distance what they are undertaking pales somewhat

    Scott Ritter (or Doug Macgregor?), in a recent update, made a comment about the ruggedness too of the equipment being deployed on the Russian side. (I remember now, it was Doug.). Perhaps, and I'm definitely no expert here, some of those lighter weight guns are sturdy yet light as a result of a part titanium composition? I don't actually know.
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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)
    Quote Posted by Jaak (here)
    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)
    NATO military equipment filmed at the port of Gdynia in Poland....

    I find it interesting that there is some kind of Terramar facility in the background ? Maybe its nothing or maybe its one of those human trafficking locations ...
    Why would an non-profit charity organization have an warehouse or some kind of shipping facility ?
    The TerraMar Project was self-described as an environmental nonprofit organization. It was founded in 2012 in the United States by Ghislaine Maxwell.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_TerraMar_Project
    Very well spotted - I totally didn't pay attention to that

    couple of observations, if I may...

    while we are supposed to accept sitting around in the cold - wrapped in a blanket - nibbling on insects - give up our cars and freedom of travel... meekly watch cities / towns being turned into Open Prisons (15 minute city thing)...while being regularly injected with god knows what dubious substances....

    The Military Industrial Complex, NATO et al...have all that hardware (and advanced technology) that must take up, suck up, an incredible amount of energy and resources - causing loads of pollution to make -

    ***************************

    2nd observation - it would take a hell of a lot of red roses to cover that lot -

    I looked for a video about what happened in Berlin and this is a bit of a random choice but shows the basics - while watching it I had strong waves of kundalini energy coming in - and tears filled my eyes - this was a YES signal and I think this is the way to go - this is what regular citizens can do to come together, raise the energy for Peace and make a difference... this kind of thing -

    Citizens around the world want Peace, Prosperity and Friendship - not all the crap we have to put up with now with war and division... (I'll get off my soapbox / pulpit now.... )

    of course Putin and Russians would be pleased to see this...

    Putin cheers as Germans lay roses on blown-up Russian tank amid anti-West protest(3:29)



    Quote 27 Feb 2023 #ukrainewar #vladimirputin #berlin
    Germany has erupted in anger against the West for arming Ukraine to fight Russia. Thousands of protesting Germans gathered at Moscow's embassy in Berlin's capital and offered flowers to a blown-up Russian tank. The T-72 tank appeared in central Berlin on Friday—the first anniversary of the conflict in Ukraine. Activists from The Berlin Story Bunker Museum had won a lengthy legal battle against city authorities to be able to carry out this stunt in front of the Russian Embassy. However, people in Berlin, who took to the streets in large numbers on Sunday to decry the supply of weapons to Kyiv, gave a different interpretation. Moscow’s embassy in Berlin mocked the West over a flower blanket on a Russian tank.
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    Fun video of a Russian Su-27 Top Gun pilot playing with a US B-52 bomber over the Black Sea.
    (But what was a B-52 doing over the Black Sea??)

    https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/46995


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    And kind of related to the above (but technically off-topic ), this is a rather beautiful short video of the advanced and highly maneuverable Su-35.

    https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/47016




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    https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/st...71960033656832


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    https://twitter.com/LogKa11/status/1632382949172604932


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    Emotionally loaded propaganda, for sure, but this recent story is 100% true.

    https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/21521



    Here's the boy himself, explaining what happened.

    https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/21477

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Emotionally loaded propaganda, for sure, but this recent story is 100% true.

    https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/21521



    Here's the boy himself, explaining what happened.

    https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/21477

    https://www.rt.com/russia/572394-ukr...k-attack-hero/

    Russian boy praised for saving two minors in Ukrainian attack
    A ten-year old boy from Russia’s Bryansk Region is being hailed as a hero after he managed to save the lives of two first-graders during an attack by Ukrainian saboteurs on Thursday.

    According to local media reports, Fyodor and two girls, Zlata and Lena, were being driven to school by their neighbor, a 63-year-old man known as Uncle Lenya on the morning of March 2. On their way they encountered a group of armed men.

    After realizing that the men were not Russian servicemen the driver attempted to turn the car around and flee, but the Ukrainian operatives opened fire on the vehicle, killing the driver on the spot and wounding Fyodor in the chest.

    Despite being shot, Fyodor managed to pull the girls out of the car and escape the scene. “Fedya [Fyodor] told us ‘go to the forest,’” one of the first-graders told the Moskovsky Komsomolets outlet. “I was there, in that car. I saw people in white uniforms and one in green. Fedya showed us where to go and we ran together,” she said.

    Fyodor and the girls eventually made it out of the area and were able to catch a ride to the nearby settlement of Novy Ropsk, where the boy was taken to the hospital. Doctors managed to extract a NATO-issue bullet from his chest. Doctors say Fyodor’s condition is stable and that he is expected to make a full recovery.

    Russia’s FSB displays aftermath of Ukrainian terrorist attack (VIDEO)
    Russia’s FSB displays aftermath of Ukrainian terrorist attack (VIDEO)
    Bryansk Governor Aleksandr Bogomaz paid a personal visit to Fyodor on Friday and commended him on his bravery. “Despite being so young, he acted like a real man, like a true fighter,” Bogomaz wrote on his Telegram channel. The governor has announced that documents are currently being prepared to award him with a medal ‘For Courage.’

    Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov also stated on Friday that “everyone in the Kremlin and the president are in awe of the heroism of the boy and the man [Uncle Lenya]” and announced that their actions will be officially noted.

    The Ukrainian operatives who crossed into Russia’s Bryansk Region on Thursday have since been forced back to Ukrainian territory and hit with a “massive artillery strike,” the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) said.


    https://twitter.com/TamrikoT/status/1631706581329903623


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    Russian Spetsnaz Attack Ukrainian Ships Using Western Gear
    Mon 27 February 2023

    http://www.hisutton.com/Russian-Spet...k-Ukraine.html

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    Finally, the erudite munchkin of Ukraine managed to dribble out something that is at least approximately true:


    ...in a late February press conference when asked by a reporter about growing ‘Ukraine fatigue’ among the US public. He began his response by saying, “If they do not change their opinion…they will lose NATO, they will lose the clout of the United States, they will lose the leadership position they are enjoying in the world.”


    It was followed by a quip about how Russia taking over Europe meant the U. S. would be sending their own kids to the slaughter. That part was denied by MTG. Points (2) and (3) above already appear to be in effect. And, whoever said that countries can bug out of NATO after twenty years, has given easy leverage to the first point. That one is really simple! You don't have to gather mountains of evidence of a man-made virus, try to prove grafting or conflict of interest such as how a British psychic would have known in Nov. 2019 that it was time to order millions of surgical gowns from China, and piecemeal disassemble a pseudo-satanic octopus from the dark halls of man's idiocy...you just withdraw.

    Suggest doing the easiest thing that makes the biggest difference first.

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    “If a man does not keep pace with [fall into line with] his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away.” - Thoreau

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    Steve Bannon warns UK citizens could soon be on the battlefield in Ukraine

    Steve Bannon, telling Nigel Farage how it is in a surprisingly hard-hitting, fairly short (10 mins) interview posted 6th March 2023



    Former White House Chief Strategist Steve Bannon says Britain is primed for a nationalist movement as the Tories move the country further into disarray. Bannon, who worked under Donald Trump during the first seven month's of the ex-President's term, believes the British media is "dumb and lazy" and are not ready for a change in British politics.

    6:25 onwards specifically for Ukraine comments
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    Why Bakhmut Is Falling
    March 06, 2023

    Just two days ago I reported that Bakhmut is falling. The Ukrainian soldiers there are outgunned 1 to 10 and die under artillery fire with little chance to shot back. More reports from the front have since come in. They support my dire view.

    The German pro-Ukrainian news outlet Bild reported this morning that there were misgivings in the Ukrainian war leadership:

    President Volodymyr Zelensky and Commander-in-Chief of Ukraine’s Armed Forces Valerii Zaluzhnyi have conflicting views on how the military should handle the situation in Bakhmut, according to unnamed sources within the Ukrainian political leadership cited in a report by Bild.

    Bild writes that Zaluzhnyi was deliberating a tactical withdrawal from Bakhmut weeks ago over concern for the wellbeing of his troops.

    The Ukrainian government told Bild that remaining in Bakhmut was the right decision due to the serious damage it inflicted on Russian military personnel and equipment. However, according to other sources cited by the publication, the situation is at risk of becoming untenable.

    "The vast majority of soldiers in Bakhmut do not understand why the city is being held," a Ukrainian military analyst told Bild on condition of anonymity.

    Just hours after that item came out Zelensky's office issued a press release denying any such trouble (machine translation):

    On Monday, President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy held a regular meeting of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief's Staff.
    The commanders of the operational and strategic troop groups reported on the situation on the main front lines.

    The members of the Staff considered the situation in Bakhmut in particular. Assessing the course of the defense operation, the President asked Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Valeriy Zaluzhnyi and Commander of the operational and strategic grouping of troops "Khortytsia" Oleksandr Syrskyi about further actions in the Bakhmut direction. They spoke in favor of continuing the defense operation and further strengthening our positions in Bakhmut.

    I do not believe that Zaluzhnyi and Sirskyi gave such advice. The situation for the Ukrainians in Bakhmut (Ru: Artyomovsk) is hopeless and they certainly know it. Losses would be less if the troops would pull back to the next defense line on the higher grounds west of Bakhmut.

    The current situation is a mess:

    To move out of Bakhmut or to move supplies in one has to cross a 10 kilometer long corridor which is only 6 kilometer wide and completely covered by Russian artillery and ground fire. The results of attempts to run that gauntlet can be read in the Russian Defense Ministry's daily report:

    In Donetsk direction, the active action of the 'Yug' Group of Forces and artillery operation have resulted in the elimination of up to 225 Ukrainian personnel, five infantry fighting vehicles, nine armoured fighting vehicles, five pickups, four motor vehicles, one Uragan MLRS, and one D-30 howitzer.
    One ordnance depot of 55th Artillery Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU), and one U.S.-manufactured AN/TPQ-37 counterbattery warfare radar have been destroyed near Dachnoye and Chasov Yar (Donetsk People's Republic) respectively.

    Losing 23 transport vehicles in a day, plus the people in them, is quite severe. It has stopped to freeze in Bakhmut and the fields are now too muddy to drive over them. Here is video of some pickups which tried and got messed up by artillery fire. All roads out are under direct Russian fire. The best way to move in or out is thereby probably a long walk through the muddy fields.


    The rest,

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/0...s-falling.html

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