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    Interesting survey a year ago by EKOS on Canada providing military aid to Ukraine, categorized as per vaxed vs unvaxed. Not surprisingly, a majority of the vaxed are in favour of supporting Ukraine militarily, while a majority of unvaxed oppose this.

    In Canada those who obediently took the covid shots are plugged into our national propaganda 'news' site, CBC, without ever questioning it.

    But those who get their information from various news sites have refused the covid shots, and only use CBC as a propaganda meter. Once one has looked at the other side of the story, it becomes obvious that CBC is lying, usually by omitting critical facts.

    Will the sheep ever wake up? They’re being told to avoid getting their information from elsewhere, labelled as ‘fake news’. Sigh…

    Here’s the link to the March 18, 2022 survey about military aid to Ukraine:
    “(Canadian) Public Attitudes to Ukraine Conflict by Vaccine Acceptance”
    https://www.ekospolitics.com/index.p...ne-acceptance/

    By the way, as a Canadian I'm appalled that our minister of foreign affairs Melanie Joly would call for a regime change in Russia. If there's a country that really needs a regime change right now, it's Canada.
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    Some parts of the UK’s nuclear submarine fleet are superglued together


    You could fit all of Britain’s fighting forces into a middling-sized football ground (without disturbing the turf) yet in just one week the UK threatened both Russia and China. Stop sniggering at the back.
    Short but sweet YT clip from George Galloway 18th March 2023.

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    Today, Lucas Leiroz suggests that Switzerland is being influenced:



    In a recent interview, the American ambassador in Switzerland Scott Miller stated that Switzerland was going through a serious crisis, in which the country would need to decide on what “neutrality” means. Miller claims that the US supports Swiss neutrality but does not consider this principle to be “static”, believing in a Swiss obligation to help the West as much as possible to tighten sanctions against Moscow.


    Ambassador Miller went beyond what was expected in his demands. In addition to banning the anti-re-export law, he openly demanded the freezing of all Russian assets in Swiss financial institutions. According to him, this is a way for Switzerland to endorse the sanctions and help Ukraine more actively.

    “Switzerland is in the most serious crisis since the Second World War. It is confronted with what neutrality means (…) We understand and respect it. But it is not a static construct. Switzerland can’t call itself neutral and allow one or both sides to exploit its laws to their own advantage (…) I think we still have a lot of work to do (…) Sanctions are only as strong as the political will behind them. We need to find as many assets as possible, freeze them and, if necessary, confiscate them in order to make them available to Ukraine for reconstruction”, he said.

    The spokeswoman for the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs Maria Zakharova understood the words of the American diplomat as a real threat. According to her, there is a parallel between Miller’s suggestions and the recent crisis at Credit Suisse, an important local financial institution that went into deep debt and requested tens of billions in loans from the Central Bank to continue working. Zakharova also recalled the American banking crisis and suggested that Miller could be blackmailing the Swiss into serving US interests – possibly in exchange for some help to prevent local banks from going the same way as the American ones, or, in the worst case, this could even be a direct threat of sabotage.

    “Considering that the second-largest Swiss bank plunged right after three American banks went bust, such a statement looks like direct blackmail”, she said, adding that the essence of Miller’s message is: “drop neutrality and start sending weapons to the Kiev regime, and you’ll keep living full-bellied and lavishly; refuse – and bad days are in order”.




    Again he uses that buzzword "the crisis", which, I think, is slang for "reality is whatever I say to you".

    Americans are still allowed in embassies? How did that happen??

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    Three interesting pieces of footage from Vladimir Putin's recent visit to Mariupol which may have been on March 17th:



    Putin drives around Mariupol

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    Translation:

    Thank you for the victory — the residents of Mariupol thanked Putin and wished him good health

    Putin:What, what have you said?

    Citizen is saying thank you for the victory, we wish you good health

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    Putin meets Mariupol residents (Footage with English subtitles)
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    "The prisons of Galicia were not big enough to accommodate all the repressed. On August 28, 1914, there were two thousand prisoners in Lviv alone. It was then that the Austrian authorities decided to establish concentration camps. In September 1914, the huge Thalerhof place of incarceration was set up in Styria. The first prisoners were delivered on September 4. According to the testimony of one of the survivors, priest Theodor Merena, prisoners were “people of different class and age”. They included clergy, lawyers, doctors, teachers, officials, peasants, writers, and students. The age of the prisoners ranged from infants to 100-year-olds."
    - By Dmitry Plotnikov, a political journalist exploring the history and current events of ex-Soviet states

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    WARNING: the article contains images of people being hung but I have not included those images here

    The Galician genocide: How Russian identity was wiped out in what is now Western Ukraine

    Before the region became the center of Ukrainian nationalism, local Russophiles were annihilated in some of Europe’s first concentration camps

    By Dmitry Plotnikov, a political journalist exploring the history and current events of ex-Soviet states

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    Galicia, a historical region in the West of Ukraine, is currently the center of the country’s nationalist movement. However, things were once very different. A little over a hundred years ago, representatives of opposing Russophile and pro-Ukrainian political movements competed for the loyalty of the local Ruthenian population, also known as Rusyns. Galicia’s Russophiles welcomed the beginning of the First World War as a step toward an anticipated reunion with Russia. However the Ukrainian movement remained loyal to Austria-Hungary. With the help of the latter, Vienna killed off the Rusyn intelligentsia, which it considered a “fifth column”. To accomplish this, the Hapsburgs set up concentration camps.

    What happened next amounted to a genocide.

    The beginning of the tragedy

    By the start of the First World War, the Russophile movement in Galicia was experiencing tough times. As a result of the “divide and rule” policy implemented by the Austrians, the movement suffered a split. The oldest and most respected organizations ended up in the hands of pro-Austrian leaders who advocated Ukrainian, not Rusyn, identity.

    After the army of the Russian Empire crossed the border on August 18, 1914, and launched an offensive in Galicia, mass repressions swept through the region. People fell victim to the rage of the Austrian authorities over trifling matters – like possessing Russian literature, being a member of a Russian society, having a Russian education, or just sympathizing with Saint Petersburg. In some cases, people were arrested just for calling themselves Russians. Prisons were full of “enemies of the state” and “dangerous Moscow agents”, and the streets were lined with gallows.

    “Those suspected of ‘Russophilia’ were hung on these trees in front of the windows. People were hung right on the trees. They would hang there for a day, then would be taken off and others would take their place… ” recounted one of the peasants in the Gorodetsky district. The repressions primarily affected the intelligentsia and Orthodox priests, most of whom completed spiritual studies in the Russian Empire.

    Repressions against the intelligentsia were followed by those against the general public. Anyone who was thought to sympathize with Russia or Russian culture became a suspect. This included people who had once visited Russia, read Russian newspapers, or were just known as “Russophiles.” Military courts worked around the clock and a simplified procedure of legal proceedings was introduced for cases of suspected treason.

    Members of Galicia’s Rusyn movement who chose the “Ukrainian way” actively participated in the repressions. Pro-Austrian politicians prepared lists of “unreliable” suspects and based on mere accusations, and arrested anyone who sympathized with Russia. As Russophile public figure Ilya Terekh described, “At the beginning of the war, the Austrian authorities arrested almost the entire Russian intelligentsia of Galicia and thousands of peasants, based on the lists handed over to the administrative and military authorities by the Ukrainophiles.”

    Anyone who possessed a Russian newspaper, book, sacred image, or even a postcard from Russia was grabbed, abused, and taken away. And then, there were gallows and executions without end – thousands of innocent victims, seas of martyr blood and orphan tears,” said another Russophile, Julian Yavorsky.

    In October 1914, the Russian writer Mikhail Prishvin, who served as a medical assistant at the front, wrote in his diary:
    “When I got to Galicia ... I felt and saw the living images of the times of the Inquisition.” Prishvin described the feelings of the Galician Rusyns toward Russia as follows: “Galicians dream of a great, pure, and beautiful Russia. A seventeen-year-old schoolboy walked with me around Lvov [now Lviv, then Lemberg] and spoke Russian without an accent. He told me about the persecution of the Russian language. Students were not even allowed to have a map of Russia, and before the war he was forced to burn books by Pushkin, Lermontov, Tolstoy, and Dostoevsky.”
    Hell on earth

    The prisons of Galicia were not big enough to accommodate all the repressed. On August 28, 1914, there were two thousand prisoners in Lviv alone. It was then that the Austrian authorities decided to establish concentration camps. In September 1914, the huge Thalerhof place of incarceration was set up in Styria. The first prisoners were delivered on September 4. According to the testimony of one of the survivors, priest Theodor Merena, prisoners were “people of different class and age”. They included clergy, lawyers, doctors, teachers, officials, peasants, writers, and students. The age of the prisoners ranged from infants to 100-year-olds.

    Occasionally, Ukrainian activists who were loyal to the Austrian regime were accidentally placed into Thalerhof. Most of them were removed quickly. One later recalled that all prisoners had a chance to escape by giving up their Russian name and registering as “Ukrainians” in the “Ukrainian list.”

    Up to the winter of 1915, there were no barracks in Thalerhof. People slept on the ground in the open air despite the rain and frost. The camp’s sanitary conditions were awful. The latrines were uncovered and used by twenty people at a time. When the barracks were built, they were overcrowded, housing 500 people instead of the intended 200. The prisoners slept on straw beds which were rarely replaced. Naturally, epidemics were widespread. In just two months following November 1914, over three thousand prisoners died of typhus.

    There was no question of any treatment of the sick. Even doctors were hostile toward the prisoners,” wrote imprisoned Rusyn writer Vasily Vavrik.

    The prisoners weren’t provided with any adequate medical care. In the beginning, Thalerhof didn’t even have a hospital. People died on the damp ground. However, when the hospital barracks were finally built, the doctors gave almost no medicine to the patients.

    To instill fear, prison authorities constructed poles throughout the camp and regularly hung “violators” on these poles. The violation could be a mere trifle, like catching someone smoking in the barrack at night. Iron shackles were also used as punishment, even on women. Moreover, the camp was supplied with barbed wire, observation towers with sentries, barking dogs, posters with slogans, propaganda, torture facilities, a moat for executions, gallows, and a cemetery.

    The camp operated for nearly three years and was closed down in May 1917 on the order of Charles I of Austria. The barracks stood on the site until 1936, when they were finally demolished. 1,767 corpses were then exhumed and reburied in a common grave in the nearby village of Feldkirchen.

    The exact number of victims in Thalerhof is still disputed. The official report by Field Marshal Schleer dated November 9, 1914, stated that 5,700 Russophiles were imprisoned there at the time. According to one of the survivors, in the autumn of the same year there were about 8,000 prisoners. Twenty to thirty thousand Russian Galicians and Bukovinians passed through Thalerhof in total. In the first year and a half alone, about 3,000 prisoners died. According to other sources, 3,800 people were executed in the first half of 1915. Overall, in the course of the First World War, the Austro-Hungarian authorities killed at least 60,000 Rusyns.

    Remembering the forgotten

    In the period between the two world wars, the former prisoners strived to preserve the memory of the tragedy that affected Galicia’s Ruthenians and to perpetuate the memory of the victims of Thalerhof. The first monument was erected in 1934, and soon similar memorials appeared in other parts of the region. In the years 1924-1932, the Thalerhof Almanac was published. It provided documentary evidence and eyewitness accounts of the genocide. In 1928 and 1934, Thalerhof congresses, which gathered over 15 thousand participants, were held in Lviv.

    Galicia became part of the USSR in 1939. Even before Soviet times, there was an unspoken ban on the topic Thalerhof, because the very fact of Russian existence in Galicia was seen as an impediment to Ukrainization, which was actively cultivated in Western Ukraine following World War Two. After Galicia and Volhynia became part of the USSR, most Russophile organizations in Lviv were closed. However, memorial services by the monuments continued. As the eyewitnesses and contemporaries of the events grew older and died, a new generation of Galicians was brought up in the spirit of atheism and took on a Ukrainian national identity. As a result, fewer and fewer people came to the memorials.

    In modern Ukraine, the Rusyn genocide isn’t publicly discussed. Thalerhof is not mentioned in any school textbooks on the history of the country. The idea that Russians once lived in Galicia – the proud center of “Ukrainian culture” – does not fit the nationalistic ideology of contemporary Ukraine. Most young people have never even heard of Thalerhof.

    The tragedy marked the end of the Russophile movement in Galicia. All those who did not submit and did not take on a Ukrainian identity were physically annihilated. Just a few years after the tragic events, public views changed. The region came under the influence of other movements and politicians. When Austria-Hungary fell apart after the First World War, Galicia turned into a powerful center of the Ukrainian nationalist movement.
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    Russian pilots to be awarded after US drone incident

    The service members prevented the UAV from violating a restricted flight area, the Defense Ministry has said

    The pilots of the Russian jets that scrambled to identify an American drone that was conducting a reconnaissance mission over the Black Sea have been nominated for decoration, the Defense Ministry announced on Friday.

    Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu “has put forward for state awards the pilots of the Su-27 aircraft who prevented the US MQ-9 unmanned aerial vehicle from violating” the restricted flight zone established by Moscow amid the Ukraine conflict, the ministry’s statement read.

    It added that the borders of the area in question had been made known to all users of international airspace.

    The ministry, however, did not provide any personal information about the pilots, nor did it reveal what awards they might receive.

    In the aftermath of the incident, US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin spoke with Shoigu to discuss the matter. Austin reiterated that the drone was “conducting routine operations in international airspace,” adding that Washington would “continue to fly and to operate wherever international law allows.”

    Shoigu insisted that the incident occurred due to US refusal to comply with the restricted flight zone and its efforts “to ramp up reconnaissance activities against the interests of the Russian Federation.”


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    You have no power here: What the ICC arrest warrant means for Putin

    Russia has dismissed “war crimes” accusations against its president as null and void



    The International Criminal Court (ICC) on Friday alleged that Russian President Vladimir Putin and Children’s Rights Commissioner Maria Lvova-Belova may have committed war crimes by “deporting” and “transferring” children from Ukraine. Moscow has dismissed the move as preposterous and not legally binding, since Russia has never ratified the court’s jurisdiction.

    1_What does the ICC claim?

    The Court's pre-trial Chamber issued an arrest warrant for Putin and Lvova-Belova, accusing them of personal and command responsibility for what they described as “unlawful deportation of population (children) and that of unlawful transfer of population (children) from occupied areas of Ukraine.” The accusations appear to be based on the Kiev government’s interpretation of Russian efforts to evacuate civilians away from frontline areas that the Ukrainian military has targeted, often with NATO-supplied weapons.

    2_What does the warrant mean?

    In legal terms, nothing. Though Russia was one of the signatories to the Rome Statute, the ICC’s founding document, it never ratified the treaty and officially withdrew from it in 2016. Whatever the court claims or does is null and void in Russia, both Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov and Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova explained on Friday.

    3_Is Russia alone in not recognizing the ICC?

    While 123 states have signed the Rome Statute, 41 have not – including China, India, Saudi Arabia and Türkiye. Besides Russia, Israel, Sudan and the US have also withdrawn their signatures. The US Congress even passed a law in 2002 prohibiting any cooperation with the court and authorizing “all means necessary and appropriate” to release any American – or national of an allied country – from the Hague, by military force if necessary.

    4_What was the Russian reaction?

    Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov described the ICC announcement as “outrageous and unacceptable.” Senator Andrey Klishas, from the ruling United Russia party, said the ICC had just put itself on the road to self-destruction. Former president and deputy chair of the Russian Security Council Dmitry Medvedev compared the warrant to toilet paper. Crimean Senator Sergei Tsekov warned that the ICC decision demonstrates that Western-created institutions have become “worthless and insignificant.” Lvova-Belova sarcastically thanked the “international community” for appreciating her work to help rescue children from the zone of combat operations.


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    • The U.S. is Destroying Ukraine:

    John Joseph Mearsheimer is an American political scientist and international relations scholar, who belongs to the realist school of thought. He is the R. Wendell Harrison Distinguished Service Professor at the University of Chicago. He has been described as the most influential realist of his generation. Mearsheimer was born in December 1947 in Brooklyn, New York City. When he was eight, he moved with his family to Croton-on-Hudson, a suburb in Westchester County. When he was 17, Mearsheimer enlisted in the US Army. After one year as an enlisted member, he obtained an appointment to the US Military Academy at West Point, which he attended from 1966 to 1970. After graduation, he served for five years as an officer in the US Air Force. In 1974, while he was in the Air Force, Mearsheimer earned a master's degree in international relations from the University of Southern California. He entered Cornell University and in 1980 earned a Ph.D. in government, specifically in international relations. From 1978 to 1979, he was a research fellow at the Brookings Institution in Washington, DC. From 1980 to 1982, he was a postdoctoral fellow at Harvard University's Center for International Affairs. During the 1998–1999 academic year, he was the Whitney H. Shepardson Fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations in New York. Since 1982, Mearsheimer has been a member of the faculty of the Department of Political Science Faculty at the University of Chicago. He became an associate professor in 1984 and a full professor in 1987 and was appointed the R. Wendell Harrison Distinguished Service Professor in 1996. From 1989 to 1992, he served as chairman of the department. He also holds a position as a faculty member in the Committee on International Relations graduate program, and he is a co-director of the Program on International Security Policy. Mearsheimer's books include Conventional Deterrence (1983), which won the Edgar S. Furniss Jr. Book Award; Nuclear Deterrence: Ethics and Strategy (co-editor, 1985); Liddell Hart and the Weight of History (1988); The Tragedy of Great Power Politics (2001), which won the Lepgold Book Prize; The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy (2007); and Why Leaders Lie: The Truth About Lying in International Politics (2011). His articles have appeared in academic journals like International Security and popular magazines like the London Review of Books. He has written op-ed pieces for The New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, and the Chicago Tribune. Mearsheimer has won several teaching awards. He received the Clark Award for Distinguished Teaching when he was a graduate student at Cornell in 1977, and he won the Quantrell Award for Excellence in Undergraduate Teaching at the University of Chicago in 1985. In addition, he was selected as a Phi Beta Kappa Visiting Scholar for the 1993–1994 academic year. In that capacity, he gave a series of talks at eight colleges and universities. In 2003, he was elected to the American Academy of Arts and Sciences. He is the recipient of the American Political Science Association's 2020 James Madison Award, which is presented every three years to an American political scientist who has made distinguished scholarly contributions. The Award Committee noted that Mearsheimer is "one of the most cited International Relations scholars in the discipline, but his works are read well beyond the academy as well." Mearsheimer's works are widely read and debated[according to whom?] by 21st-century students of international relations. A 2017 survey of US international relations faculty ranks him third among "scholars whose work has had the greatest influence on the field of IR in the past 20 years."
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    Excellent interview with Col. Macregor, including the broader political, economic, and international aspects of the conflict in Ukraine. (34 minutes, with Stephen Gardner)

    Col. Macgregor: Ukraine is CRUMBLING Under Putin's Military Offensive

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    After managing to get the Arabs to propose doing nothing less than investing money in Iran, China's next move proves the old maxim that babies cry:


    President Biden has dismissed the Chinese peace proposal as irrational.

    The United States will consider any calls for a halt in the fighting in Ukraine following President Xi’s visit to Russia “unacceptable,” White House National Security Council spokesman John Kirby has said.

    “If, coming out of this meeting, there’s some sort of call for a ceasefire, well that’s just gonna be unacceptable, because all that’s gonna do is ratify Russia’s conquests to date. All that’s gonna do is give Mr. Putin more time to refit, retrain, remain and try to plan for renewed offensives at a time of his choosing,” Kirby said in a TV interview Sunday.

    “We hope, and we’ve said this before – that President Xi will call and talk to President Zelensky, because we believe the Chinese need to get the Ukrainian perspective here,” Kirby said.

    The spokesman took issue with Russia and China’s efforts to team up to challenge US unipolarity, saying “there’s no question” that both countries “are chafing against this international rules-based order that the United States and so many of our allies and partners have built up since the end of World War II. They don’t like that. They’d like to rewrite the rules of the game globally and they have been increasing their cooperation and their relationship, certainly of late.”

    China released a comprehensive 12-point Ukraine peace plan last month, calling not only for a halt in hostilities and a resumption of peace talks, but for the abandonment of the ‘Cold War mentality” which Beijing believes brought about the crisis in the first place. The proposal calls for an end to unilateral sanctions, recommends efforts to promote post-conflict reconstruction, and offers steps to ensure the security of global supply chains.

    Biden publicly rejected China’s peace proposal, saying the idea of Beijing negotiating an end to the crisis was “just not rational” because President Putin has applauded it.

    “I’ve seen nothing in the plan that would indicate that there is something that would be beneficial to anyone other than Russia, if the Chinese plan were followed,” Biden said.

    Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky called the Chinese proposal “an important signal” indicating that “they are planning to participate in this topic,” but said it would mean nothing if China was not “on the side of a fair peace, which means on our side.”





    Concerning the future of the US-led order, some grown-up talk from Medvedev on the ICC:


    "It’s clear there’s no practical value but thanks for your thoughts. But the consequences for international law will be disastrous. This means a collapse of the foundations, the principles of law, including the postulate of the inevitability of punishment. No one now will be turning to international institutions. Everyone will be making agreements between themselves. All the foolish decisions of the UN and other organizations will be bursting at the seams. A dark decline of the entire system of international relations is coming. Trust has been exhausted," Medvedev said.

    He said ICC judges shouldn’t have raised their hand against a major nuclear power.

    "I’m afraid, gentlemen, everyone is answerable to God and missiles. It’s quite possible to imagine how a hypersonic Oniks fired from a Russian warship in the North Sea strikes the court building in the Hague. It can’t be shot down, I’m afraid. And the court is just a pathetic international organization, not the people of a NATO country. So, they won’t start a war. They’ll be scared. And no one will be sorry," the official said.

    He urged the judges to "watch the skies closely."

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    • Ukraine Soldiers Kidnapping New “Recruits” In Broad Daylight!

    Irish member of the European Parliament Clare Daly recently excoriated her parliamentary colleagues for pushing for the conflict in Ukraine to continue with no effort at negotiation. An entire generation of Ukrainian men are being lost, she pleaded, noting that “recruits” are now being violently seized off the streets. Jimmy and Americans’ Comedian Kurt Metzger discuss the shocking videos of men being kidnapped in broad daylight and shoved into vans as a form of military “recruitment.”
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    "POLISH AMBASSADOR TO FRANCE: "POLAND WILL ENTER THE WAR W/ RUSSIA IF UKRAINE DOES NOT COPE." ?!"

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    Shaberon, your comments on the lady’s “the Ambassador being a knight of Malta says it all”...?
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    Quote Posted by Michel Leclerc (here)
    Shaberon, your comments on the ladys’s “the Ambassador being a knight of Malta says it all”...?

    I don't remember saying this. Was it a line from the interview?

    I would say, originally, they were Knights Hospitallers, quartered on Malta, more or less behind the revival of Humanism, which was erased from Europe in the 600s, attempting to re-enter via the Medici Renaissance and the Alchemists of Prague.

    In the Napoleonic era, these knights were crushed as a military order, and re-located to Italy as some kind of faction. So from ca. 1815 onwards became a different kind of entity, with no one left standing to promote Humanism. Then the Rosetta Stone was discovered, and people started believing they had completely decoded ancient Egypt, picking up an obsession with ceremonial magic.

    Knights of Malta have a navy and "observer status" at the U. N., almost like being a country.

    I have been surprised that we are such muckrakers on this forum, that I have asked at least six times if anyone could find some real dirt on them, and nothing has come up yet.


    Poland has, I take it, suffered from identity crisis for quite some time. We have posted them dressing in Persian Silks because they believed they were Sarmatians, they also think they are Catholics, and also the Christian Jews.

    From a few posts above on Austria dividing Ukraine, put in context, this is what was happening:






    The green triple entente was not an alliance, but:

    ...was built upon the Franco-Russian Alliance of 1894, the Entente Cordiale of 1904 between Paris and London, and the Anglo-Russian Entente of 1907.



    The first of which makes sense from historical ties, minus Napoleon.

    The second makes no sense:

    ...the signing of the Entente Cordiale marked the end of almost a thousand years of intermittent conflict between the two states and their predecessors...

    and the third was a means of encircling Germany.


    Britain typically hated Russia, except temporarily, because of German unification.

    Austria, by gouging Russian sympathizers in Ukraine, was in effect thwarting British influence, which managed to mess up Russia very badly very soon.

    Then as everyone is aware, the situation rapidly deteriorated following an assassination by the Black Hand:

    A week after delivery of the Austrian ultimatum to Serbia, on 28 July, war was declared. Within weeks, the Germans, Russians, French and British had all entered the fray which eventually became known as World War I. On 6 August, Franz Joseph signed the declaration of war against Russia.


    Austria attacked a Russian ally, Serbia. That means they knew Russia would do something. That is what an alliance means.

    Then, as we see, atrocities begin:

    After the army of the Russian Empire crossed the border on August 18, 1914, and launched an offensive in Galicia...


    So we look at the status quo then, and imagine how easy it is to trigger a flashpoint, particularly by shooting someone in front of a crowd.

    The question would be, was there a "pro-Ukrainian" before the summer of 1914? Is Austria just jumping up to ethnically cleanse them, or, is it a strategical move to weaken Russia's chances?

    There would be nothing unusual about that--either way really--since it would still be in the future for anyone to think about genocides or war crimes.

    I hope it makes sense that most of my accusations run to the Entente.


    Look how artificial and British it is, compared to everything else we know about that. The whole "Germany down" which I did not know was like an advertising slogan in the 1950s. It was a strategy since 1871.

    People are far more likely to fight each other in the name of religion, Ukraine being where most of the pogroms were run since the 1600s, not to mention crusades against Orthodoxy since the 1200s.

    Moreover, since Franz Josef was around for both eras since German unification out of the remnant of the Hapsburg Holy Roman Empire, we could say there is a really big bank with and under:


    ...the largest and most powerful German state outside of Austria—the King of Prussia.

    In 1873, two years after the unification of Germany, Franz Joseph entered into the League of Three Emperors (Dreikaiserbund) with Kaiser Wilhelm I of Germany and Tsar Alexander II of Russia, who was succeeded by Tsar Alexander III in 1881. The league had been designed by the German chancellor Otto von Bismarck, as an attempt to maintain the peace of Europe. It would last intermittently until 1887.



    They don't make enough noise about this. Austria was not really having a problem with Russia. But Alexander II was the victim of the world's first suicide bombing in 1881, carried out by members of the Swiss and British-backed Narodnaya Volya:


    Composed primarily of young revolutionary socialist intellectuals believing in the efficacy of terrorism...


    Yes, he was pretty autocratic towards most of the non-Russian frontier people, but this is a band of Rothschild nihilists. Soon you see Russia losing friendship to Germany, then the Bolsheviks. Smells British everywhere. After this first war, you get a greater plan to capture Germany into the "world order" consisting of ECB and related institutions.


    Well, as we have said, the principle of a Good Monarch is based in protection from financial oppression, whether in the form of taxes or commercially in rent and banking and so on. I'm not sure it has anything to do with wars. Maybe in order to pursue your mission you have to fight or kill someone. There could be reasons.

    The Emperors and Tsars ought to at least have their feet in the fire about sticking to principles, and in that sense, yes, either one is more or less a Theocracy.

    The Venetian ideal is their local authority, a Duke, which is called a Doge, hardly has any authority, which is mostly in the hands of advisors or councillors, etc., which is an Oligarchy.

    At the beginning of the Empire, Charlemagne was king because the Carolingian dynasty originally held the office called Mayor of the Palace, i. e. direct management of local affairs. They ran things. Merovingian kings were heavy taxers, spending most of their time on hunting safaris, so they were easily replaced. And then the Pope simply coronated Charlemagne and called him an Emperor. It was a complete surprise. There was no plan for this. It was a spontaneous declaration.

    Naturally, the Venetians always hated France.

    There was no Italy, so the Pope hated the Venetians. Eventually here we see Garibaldi attempting to restore the Bourbon monarch Victor Immanuel because maybe--a semi-theocratic national monarch is preferrable to foreign-backed Antifa mobs taking over--which perhaps was Mazzini.

    I remain unconvinced that abolishing monarchy is the knee-jerk solution to everything. I could even sympathize with the early phases of England, seeing as it was hit with invasions, and they developed, I think it was called the Witan Council, consisting of all the local authorities electing an elder. In my heritage, my ancestry got involved in Scotland around the 1200s. Throughout most of this time, Scotland was considerably a rival with England, which is why it was allied to France. Then when it goes to colonialism and the United Kingdom...not really the same "England" which seemed respectable from resisting and recovering from the Romans.



    For a quick rundown of "the substitute", I asked ISGP and we get something about what might be more properly called the Sovereign Military Order of the Knights of Malta. He has no thesis on the group as a whole, as in what, as an organization, it is able to do. The assertion is that almost everything we know about it comes from a single article in Mother Jones, 1983. But this actually gives us an incredible volume of information.



    Holds annual ceremonies at the Vatican that have been held for centuries. The CIA-Vatican ties started with OSS head William Donovan supporting the Vatican intelligence agency Pro Deo during WWI.

    Allen Dulles (said to have been inducted around 1943 in Switzerland)


    Sound familiar?

    In recent years drew a lot of power to himself, which turned Liechtenstein from a regular parliamentary monarchy to more of a classical (dictatorial) monarchy. Huge financier of the bogus alien abduction movement with the Rockefellers and US intelligence.


    And so on, the list is huge. Then it is compiled into articles which render it nearly indistinguishable from:


    Opus Dei

    Le Cercle

    American Security Council

    Robert Crowley



    An example of an officer in the nefarious International Chamber of Commerce:

    John J. Raskob: Member of the ICC's American National Committee by 1921.

    Personal secretary of Pierre S. du Pont 1901-, who himself served as vice president of E. I. du Pont de Nemours under 1902-1915 president T. Coleman du Pont, a first cousin who was a member of the Pilgrims Society no later than 1920 and a founding member of the CFR in 1921.

    Raskob became assistant treasurer of DuPont 1911-1914, treasurer 1914-1918, vice-president for finance of both Du Pont and the DuPont-owned General Motors 1918-. Director General Motors anno 1920-1928, alongside the Du Ponts, Owen D. Young, Imperial Chemical Industries chair Sir Harry McGowan and Arthur Chamberlain. By 1922 Arthur (!) Chamberlain also sat on the board of GM. Chair Democratic National Committee (DNC) 1928-1932. Major opponent of FDR's New Deal, supporting labor busting groups as the American Liberty League. Treasurer Knights of Malta.


    Giuliani...a Pilgrims Society executive, and on the executive committee U.S. branch of the Knights of Malta.

    AmeriCares


    And we wind up with this flavor of fascism:





    As two sides:

    Likely in part because of his strong disavowal of the John Birch Society, Buckley was able to join the Council on Foreign Relations in 1973, at that point chaired by none other than David Rockefeller himself.



    Adding "machine guns for nuns" in Guatemala:

    Covenant House (tied to a major abuse scandal), involved in the Guatemalan death squad killings (including the murder of Covenant House employees who tried to clean up the institution, together with a number of children)


    I don't know what the Poles are doing in it. Maybe we should check the Organ Trafficking Department. I hear that market is a lot huger than I would have imagined. It compares to the one where you get whole people!





    The HRE happened to hold the Globis Cruciger:





    In the Roman period, the globe, a representation of the spherical Earth, became the main symbol representing the concept. The globe depicted the "universe" (pictured as the celestial sphere) as well as the Earth.

    The globus cruciger (♁) is the globe surmounted by a Christian cross, held by Byzantine Emperors on the one hand to represent the Christian ecumene, on the other hand the akakia represented the mortal nature of all men.


    By intent, the HRE should carry the Humanistic meaning of the Byzantine. So, we see the attempted influence of the Alchemists of Prague --> HRE. But, there were types of religious persecution then. Over time, they moved to Vienna, then Berlin, then St. Petersburg, depending on where tolerance lies.

    As you can see, the Orb of Kings is an exaltation of the Earth Glyph. Pulled into this shape, we then see it "matches" the lower part of this Ankh or Mirror:





    The idea is a combined figure, something like:


    O
    +
    O


    Then try telling these people it doesn't work unless your Holy Spirit is Female.




    Today, from the ever-flowing double standards:

    "The United States used military force and used their aviation in order to destroy Chinese civilian meteorological balloons, which did not pose any military danger to the United States, just because those balloons were above the United States or approaching the American territory. At the same time, the United States criticized Russia for intercepting their military drone, which is basically an attack drone and it is also an instrument of espionage," Suslov told Sputnik.
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