WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

[ExomatrixTV]

BREAKING NEWS: Prigozhin Announces Retreat from Moscow:

Prigozhin said: "They wanted to disband Wagner PMC. In a day, we walked less than 200 kilometres from Moscow. During this time, we did not shed a single drop of blood from our fighters. Now the moment has come when blood can be shed. Therefore, understanding all the responsibility for that Russian blood will be shed on one of the sides, we turn our columns and leave in the opposite direction to the field camps according to the plan."

With the statement of the President of Belarus Lukashenka that he was brokering a deal, there seems to be hope that there will be de-escalation.

Could this be the end of the Coup?

[Tintin]

Prigozhin is therefore in the most entirely original position of being deemed a security threat from the FSB, and..............

[Ravenlocke]

Text:
Lukashenko held talks with Prigozhin

Message from the press service of the President of the Republic of Belarus:

This morning, Russian President Vladimir Putin briefed his Belarusian counterpart on the situation in southern Russia with the private military company Wagner. The heads of state agreed on joint actions.

As a follow-up to the agreements, the President of Belarus, having additionally specified the situation through his channels, and in agreement with the President of Russia, held talks with the head of PMC Wagner Yevgeny Prigozhin.
Negotiations continued throughout the day. As a result, they agreed on the inadmissibility of unleashing a bloody massacre on the territory of Russia. Yevgeny Prigozhin accepted the proposal of the President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko to stop the movement of armed persons of the Wagner company on the territory of Russia and take further steps to de-escalate tensions.
At the moment, an absolutely profitable and acceptable option for solving the situation is on the table, with security guarantees for the Wagner PMC fighters.
As previously reported, also during today, the President of Belarus held two meetings with the power bloc of the country on this situation.

Slavyangrad

https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status...54907415969795

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https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status...70922346582017

[Ravenlocke]

Text:
received information:

1. The criminal case against Prigozhin will be dropped

2. PMC Wagner will receive legal guarantees, legislative solutions will be developed.

3. There will be inviolability of the fighters after their march.

4. The fighters of PMC Wagner were and remain loyal soldiers of the Supreme Commander.

https://t.me/vicktop55/15700

https://twitter.com/vicktop55/status...64751053352960

[ExomatrixTV]

• Russian Coup - Putin Responds:

KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — The owner of the Wagner private military contractor escalated his direct challenge to the Kremlin on Friday, calling for an armed rebellion aimed at ousting Russia’s defense minister. The security services reacted immediately by opening a criminal investigation into Yevgeny Prigozhin.

Prigozhin posted a series of angry video and audio recordings in which he accused Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu of ordering a rocket strike Friday on Wagner’s field camps in Ukraine, where his troops are fighting on behalf of Russia.

• source

[Ravenlocke]

Text:
Local residents are also happy with the peaceful resolution of the conflict and escort the Wagner fighters with applause.

However, against the backdrop of the receding threat of internal conflict, the question remains of what was promised to Prigozhin by the Russian authorities and vice versa.

After all, as you know, "the only thing worse than a fratricidal war is to lose that war." If Prigozhin fails to achieve the implementation of the guarantees promised to him, then everything that happened will have no meaning, and he himself may finally lose everything he has.

Military Informant

https://twitter.com/dana916/status/1672670798388277249

https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status...66372667592705

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https://twitter.com/djuric_zlatko/st...75018982014980

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Text:
🇷🇺🇧🇾 Putin thanked Lukashenka for productive talks with Prigozhin

The press service of the Belarusian president reports on a telephone conversation between Lukashenka and Vladimir Putin.

📝 “The President of Belarus informed the President of Russia in detail about the results of negotiations with the leadership of PMC Wagner. The President of Russia supported and thanked his Belarusian colleague for the work done,” the ministry said in a statement.

https://twitter.com/djuric_zlatko/st...74692757331972

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https://twitter.com/djuric_zlatko/st...74002811121667

https://twitter.com/djuric_zlatko/st...74487806971904

[Bill Ryan]

Based on what seems to be available information at the moment, the peaceful stand-down must be a good thing.

But Putin has to make it absolutely 100% clear that Prigozhin will have nothing to do with Wagner, or any kind of military, ever again. There will be legal ways to bring that entire fighting force under the direct control of the Russian MoD.

Even if Prigozhin is bought a nice villa in Crimea somewhere with some kind of medal and a good pension, he has to be 100% totally retired and sidelined. And that has to be clear, unambiguous and visible to everyone, wherever they are.

I don't know yet if that's also the sentiment on Russian social media and mainstream TV, but I'd be certain no-one wants Prigozhin ever to be able to do anything like this again — even if he gets it into his head to do so. His dangerous, crazed unreliability is now exposed for all to see.

If Putin is reluctant to press charges of treason, there may be ways to bring him into medical care and have that widely visible as well. If that's possible without old-fashioned straightjacket psychiatric butchery, it might be a reasonable outcome if respected medics formally state — probably truthfully:

"Prigozhin has severe PTSD combined with various other medical conditions. He is simply not a well man, and has not been for some time."

Then, maybe all this could all be forgotten quite quickly without anyone baying for him to be imprisoned forever.

[Sirus]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Based on what seems to be available information at the moment, the peaceful stand-down must be a good thing.

But Putin has to make it absolutely 100% clear that Prigozhin will have nothing to do with Wagner, or any kind of military, ever again. There will be legal ways to bring that entire fighting force under the direct control of the Russian MoD.

Even if Prigozhin is bought a nice villa in Crimea somewhere with some kind of medal and a good pension, he has to be 100% totally retired and sidelined. And that has to be clear, unambiguous and visible to everyone, wherever they are.

I don't know yet if that's also the sentiment on Russian social media and mainstream TV, but I'd be certain no-one wants Prigozhin ever to be able to do anything like this again — even if he gets it into his head to do so. His dangerous, crazed unreliability is now exposed for all to see.

If Putin is reluctant to press charges of treason, there may be ways to bring him into medical care and have that widely visible as well. If that's possible without old-fashioned straightjacket psychiatric butchery, it might be a reasonable outcome if respected medics formally state — probably truthfully:

"Prigozhin has severe PTSD combined with various other medical conditions. He is simply not a well man, and has not been for some time."

Then, maybe all this could all be forgotten quite quickly without anyone baying for him to be imprisoned forever.

It's more likely that he will be made an example of via assassination.

[Ravenlocke]

Speculations,

https://twitter.com/Kanthan2030/stat...67303413182464

https://twitter.com/Somali_ICS/statu...68172845973506

https://twitter.com/WithinSyriaBlog/...64860092665856

https://twitter.com/Somali_ICS/statu...78987510734849

[Eric J (Viking)]

I would love to have ‘Mashika’s’ take on all of this current news ..

Viking

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Sirus (here)
It's more likely that he will be made an example of via assassination.

Yes, I'd not disagree. If this was a movie (and it feels like one!), the third act would have Russian Special Forces silently eliminating him, with the blame being put on one of his own soldiers all by prior agreement. (Then that man would be quietly excused, showcased as a great patriot under equally great pressure, and then privately rewarded for being willing to be the needed patsy.)

[Ravenlocke]

Who is the woman, any guesses? She appears at end of the video.
https://twitter.com/realnorma_kay/st...02526238097408

https://twitter.com/tretter50001/sta...79020519981058

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Based on what seems to be available information at the moment, the peaceful stand-down must be a good thing.

But Putin has to make it absolutely 100% clear that Prigozhin will have nothing to do with Wagner, or any kind of military, ever again. There will be legal ways to bring that entire fighting force under the direct control of the Russian MoD.

Even if Prigozhin is bought a nice villa in Crimea somewhere with some kind of medal and a good pension, he has to be 100% totally retired and sidelined. And that has to be clear, unambiguous and visible to everyone, wherever they are.

I don't know yet if that's also the sentiment on Russian social media and mainstream TV, but I'd be certain no-one wants Prigozhin ever to be able to do anything like this again — even if he gets it into his head to do so. His dangerous, crazed unreliability is now exposed for all to see.

If Putin is reluctant to press charges of treason, there may be ways to bring him into medical care and have that widely visible as well. If that's possible without old-fashioned straightjacket psychiatric butchery, it might be a reasonable outcome if respected medics formally state — probably truthfully:

"Prigozhin has severe PTSD combined with various other medical conditions. He is simply not a well man, and has not been for some time."

Then, maybe all this could all be forgotten quite quickly without anyone baying for him to be imprisoned forever.

It seems that the widely respected Slavyangrad telegram channel largely agrees.

Here's what they posted less than 10 minutes ago:

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Prigozhin is not expected to continue in any role relating to the SMO or maintain any relationship with the former "Wagner PMC" fighters that are brought under the MoD umbrella. Wagner PMC will not continue as a separate entity in the SMO. What that means for the Wagner operations outside Russia, I do not know. This is all speculative, of course.

In my opinion, for any deal like this to be feasible, Prigozhin has to withdraw entirely from the public scene. If he does not, this is a prelude to further crisis.

[Ewan]

Honestly? I feel like I'm sat in the Globe Theatre wondering what the master pensmith has up his sleeve next, it is all that bizarre!

[Ravenlocke]

Text:
🇷🇺 - Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov:
- Accusations were dropped against Prigozhin, who is leaving Russia for Belarus
- The people of Wagner who did not participate in the uprising will sign contracts with the Ministry of Defense
- Wagner's fighters who participated were not charged
- 🇷🇺 - No change in leadership in the Russian army - Peskov

https://twitter.com/Sprinter99880/st...95549189824519

[Gwin Ru]

...

... war and its attendant fog:

https://t.me/FreedomDoc1/6135

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1672695533352398848

https://www.rt.com/russia/578640-kre...-deal-details/

Kremlin reveals details of Wagner deal
The criminal case, launched this weekend, against Wagner Private Military Company founder Evgeniy Prigozhin will be dropped and he will leave Russia, the Kremlin announced on Saturday evening.

Spokesman Dmitry Peskov revealed that Prigozhin, a Saint Petersburg Tycoon who made his initial fortune in catering, "will go to Belarus."

He added that Wagner's fighters will not be persecuted, taking into account their efforts on the frontlines of the Ukraine conflict. Peskov explained that President Vladimir Putin's team "have always respected their exploits."

DETAILS TO FOLLOW

[TravelerJim]

Wow. Almost looks like a setup right? Prigozhin goes to Belarus, a very friendly country. Most of Wagner joins the Russina military. Those Wagner soldiers who supported the "coup" are not prosecuted. Wagner is effectively sidelined. Putin and team find out who possible traitors are throughout the country. Western Intelligence folks involved in some way, I would think? A massive sting operation here?

[Perdido]

Saw a comment only that some Ret American General said.. Russia had fooled the CIA.. (I can not find it right now.)

Wagner has been playing a role of a disgruntled leader.. IMHO
I am sure he attracted some bites for the bait by Western sources.


Also one map showed Chechens Loyal To Putin fighters moved down from Central Russian to join up with the Rebels.. and they merged and are redeployed to new areas in Ukraine...

Like it was a big troop movement.. hidden as an anti rebel move..


If you see a change in Russian Leadership rapidly.. you will have a good idea if they flushed some ambitious people out of the woods.

[shaberon]

That is a purge, it exposes all the Fifth Columnists in Wagner.

It has a lot of convicts, so, it must include many convicts of the treasonous/terrorist type, who may have been interested in whatever happened here. Somehow I missed the motive.

From the view of Defense, it is probably working out better, to get rid of some private guy trying to argue with you, from what is a strangely American-style mercenary band. Such a thing does not really sound Russian.

It does not sound particularly sane, I do not see how anyone would believe that something like this could even be attempted. I would not draw any conclusions as to whether he was controlled by someone, Russia or anyone else, or whatever may be going on additionally related. If damage happened as a result of a threat to the state, it constitutes terrorism, interestingly compared to the fact that most ISIS and HTS, etc., have abandoned this theater and returned to Syria, after attempting to assist the Ukrainian side.