Democracy: Stick a fork in it, it's done

[Bill Ryan]

A perfectly timely article on Zero Hedge: a warning from Carl Sagan. My red emphasis is below.

• https://zerohedge.com/markets/watch-...-science-grave

"Combustible Mixture Of Ignorance & Power" - Carl Sagan Warned 'Authoritarian Science' Would "Blow Up In Our Faces"

The late astronomer Carl Sagan, who perhaps understood the unique threat of technocracy as well as anyone ever has, has emerged from the grave with a prescient warning on the dangers we are wading into unchecked.

https://twitter.com/OMGTheMess/statu...79211136786432

“We’ve arranged a society based on science and technology in which nobody understands anything about science and technology,” Sagan says. “And this combustible mixture of ignorance and power, sooner or later, is going to blow up in our faces.”

“I mean, who is running the science and technology in a democracy if the people don’t know anything about it?” he asks rhetorically.

(...the article continues...)

[ExomatrixTV]

• PROPAGANDA - They Showed This To High School Kids In 1948! Would They Allow This Today?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=8AGpILvdwDM

• Despotism 1946:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=tIwXdOvEPXE

• Both videos warn about what kind of "Government" you may experience!

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

[shaberon]

Posted by DNA (here)
Maybe folks haven't gotten the message yet but we are engaged in a spiritual war right now.

Western civilization is the first target and this attack won't stop until third world countries look like heaven by comparison.

Well, yes, in the sense that all that can be identified as "Western" is un-civilized Anti-Christianity.

It is in Aristotle and Alexander the Great, the early Popes, the fall of Rome, and it is something most of the world wishes had never started. Viz., Gandhi, what do you think of western civilization?


"I think it would be a good idea".


Yes, it is a target, and the possibility of that changing is none.

Not aimed at "the western people", of course, but to the authorities and institutions.

With perhaps a few exceptions, such as the Treaty of Westphalia or the reign of Franz Ferdinand, have there ever been any symptoms of success of a "civilized" Europe or United States? Hard to find.

[thepainterdoug]

Bill. I tend to feel your right. And Im quite saddened to have to agree and realize this. And in reading various other comments, I feel a resignation.
I actually feel the only way out of this is by way of Trump and the so called white hats that some have fun with here. I dont blame them, its all hard to believe we are at this point.
But its really not hard for me to imagine how it all got here. Man has an evil side he must hide. And though that evil co exists with the good, the good is in harmony for most all, but the evil is only good for some.

A beautiful family has a child that some evil person wants and takes. And then that has to be hidden. And then that becomes a bargining position against the good in the world. The good are easy to get over on by the evil. Blackmail, coercion, bribery and so on runs the world . Its just the way it is.

All man can do is buy time in between their governments.
I hope and pray the white hats overcome these criminals and restore a just world. As silly as it may sound , thats where Im at.
Regardless, we will all be heading home soon anyhow.

[ExomatrixTV]

• "they try to FORCE me into silence.." with Jordan Peterson:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZWKf38qoJZw

"they try to FORCE me into silence.." with Jordan Peterson message strange truth world news current events july 2023 today this week this month motivation

Jordan Peterson has fearlessly peeled back layers upon layers of deception, exposing the puppet masters, orchestrating the grand scheme. Get ready to have your mind blown as we uncover the shocking truth behind this system of ideas and their nefarious plans to reshape our world.

Jordan Peterson is a renowned Canadian clinical psychologist, cultural critic, and professor of psychology at the University of Toronto. In this video, Jordan Peterson explains how radical ideologies are spreading through society by weaponizing concepts like social justice and equity to disguise the unholy alliance of corporations promoting diminished freedom and standards of living for average people. Get ready to have your mind blown as we uncover the shocking truth behind the system of ideas and their nefarious plans to reshape our world.

Have you ever felt like there's a hidden agenda behind the chaos and confusion of our times? Are you tired of being told what to think and believe? Well, you are not alone.

[Antagenet]

It would be much more relaxing to feel resigned. Instead I feel increasingly pissed off.
It seems clear to me that one group of psychopaths have most of the control.
https://gtvflyers.com/

[rgray222]

Antagenet, you are out of line. Your post clearly states that every aspect of every problem in the world (see below) is virtually the result of Jews. I am not Jewish and I have no skin in this argument but when I see something so hate-filled and so out of line I feel it must be called out.

• COVID
• Slavery
• Abortion
• Guns
• Satanism
• Pornography
• Penis Sucking (not joking, see below)
• LBGTQ Movement
• Biden Administration
• Trump Campaign Funding
• Mass Immigration
• Ukraine
• 911
• Federal Reserve
• Communism
• Child Murdering Pedophiles
• Feminism

Posted by Antagenet (here)
It would be much more relaxing to feel resigned. Instead, I feel increasingly pissed off.
It seems clear to me that one group of psychopaths has most of the control.
https://gtvflyers.com/

The link you referenced is a site that distributes hate flyers. After reading through the info it appears to me that it is most likely some young man who considers himself a victim and he prints and sells these flyers from the basement of his mother's home. He states the following.

A sampling from the link you posted.
If you live in the United States, our flyers have been fact-checked multiple times for accuracy, and legality to be distributed. This is sadly such a bold lie that it borders on humor.

Because of how hate crime laws work in the US and other countries, never distribute flyers at Religious institutions or parking lots. Wow, even this guy states his flyers can be considered hate crimes

A small sampling of the flyers from the link you posted

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Mod note
Edit: To spare most people's eyes these images are best left where they are. If anyone wants to see them they can find them at the website.

[Mari]

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)

Posted by Franny (here)
I think this is a slightly abbreviated version of the original video from Darren Brown of the Birthday Present. It shows in a few minutes how a master NLP manipulator can replace a thought in this man's mind in minutes. DB even tells the man what he is doing. The birthday man's mind is changed in such a way he does not remember or care about the item he originally wanted, even when he sees the proof.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=YMropN6ft4Y

I don't buy that personally. That's Simon Pegg, he was Scotty in the new Star Trek films among many other big titles - he's an actor so this smells of a set up. Either that or he's is a weak-minded fool. That's not to say the power of suggestion doesn't work, it can and does on many, but it takes time and repetition to pull off.

I think I can safely say it wouldn't work on the majority of us. We here are free, critical thinkers. Our awareness is a natural firewall against manipulation.

That's not without its drawbacks actually...

For example, I find it almost impossible to get hypnotised! Over the years I've tried multiple methods and therapists (seeking a past-life regression) - and none could put me under, not even slightly (to their great exasperation!) My only success came with a quantum healer, trained by Dolores Cannon herself. Even then it took her an unprecedented full hour to put me in a 'light' trance.

I share your pain I remember lying on a hypnotists' couch thinking all sorts of things...everything indeed except what the hypnotist was 'suggesting' to me, and it hit me after 10 mins or so, that I wasn't going 'under'. It felt excruciating....'do I pretend?' I asked myself, or just sit up and say, sorry mate, I've wasted my heard-earned and you, your time. I pretended to save us both embarassment (who was I kidding?) I don't think he was fooled.

Like you, I feel quantum healing would do the trick, but I'm aware that there is some stiff resistance within that prevents me from pursuing further, even though I'm fascinated with the idea of regression..
This could be why I never bought the 'covid' hoax from day one. Maybe those who 'cant' be hypnotised easily are more likely to see through the BS?

[Pris]

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Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)

• "they try to FORCE me into silence.." with Jordan Peterson:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZWKf38qoJZw

This is so good... But, then it went private? Could there be some YouTube shenanigans going on? Anyway, it was an edited copy...


Joy of joys, although I've not watched the whole thing yet, I found the full version:


You Might Already Be A Member | James Lindsay | EP 367

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=bnrdyphape4

OVERVIEW:

"Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Dr. James Lindsay break down how Marxism evolved from a singular ideology into a genus, spawning many oppressor/oppressed dogmas across modern culture such as equity, critical race theory, and queer theory. They trace these sub-Marxist doctrines back past fundamental narrative into the theological realm, and detail their utility in the acquisition of power. Dr. Peterson and Dr. Lindsay also discuss the Grievance Studies Affair, of which Dr. Lindsay was a co-author and which casts a spotlight on the Marxist capture of our academic and scientific institutions.

An author, mathematician, and political commentator, Dr. James Lindsay has written eight books spanning a range of subjects including education, postmodern theory, and critical race theory. Dr. Lindsay is the founder of New Discourses, an organization dedicated to shining the light of objective truth in subjective darkness. Dr. Lindsay is the co-author of “Cynical Theories: How Activist Scholarship Made Everything about Race, Gender, and Identity―and Why This Harms Everybody” and the author of “Race Marxism,” as well as, “The Marxification of Education.” Dr. Lindsay has been a featured guest on Fox News, Glenn Beck, Joe Rogan, and NPR, and he has spoken at the Oxford Union and the EU Parliament."

[Satori]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
A perfectly timely article on Zero Hedge: a warning from Carl Sagan. My red emphasis is below.

• https://zerohedge.com/markets/watch-...-science-grave

"Combustible Mixture Of Ignorance & Power" - Carl Sagan Warned 'Authoritarian Science' Would "Blow Up In Our Faces"

The late astronomer Carl Sagan, who perhaps understood the unique threat of technocracy as well as anyone ever has, has emerged from the grave with a prescient warning on the dangers we are wading into unchecked.

https://twitter.com/OMGTheMess/statu...79211136786432

“We’ve arranged a society based on science and technology in which nobody understands anything about science and technology,” Sagan says. “And this combustible mixture of ignorance and power, sooner or later, is going to blow up in our faces.”

“I mean, who is running the science and technology in a democracy if the people don’t know anything about it?” he asks rhetorically.

(...the article continues...)

Bump, bump, bump. Bingo!

[Dennis Leahy]

I'm kind of surprised that no one yet has injected the meme that democracy is 2 wolves and 1 sheep voting on what to have for dinner. Usually, this is followed by some chest thumping and the declaration that the US of A is not a democracy, nor ever has been; it's a republic. Those advancing this meme are more than frightened by democracy. They'll say they don't want to be legally subjected to the concepts and ideals of 51% of the population composed mostly of dumbasses. (Of course, they fail to recognize that a republic is just a smaller group of individuals making up the rules than in a true democracy, and so they will still be subjected to rules/laws/policies that didn't come from themselves.)

The meta-analysis paper that was nicknamed "The Princeton Report" concluded that US citizens have ZERO influence over foreign and domestic policy. That is, at very best, the illusion of democracy. "Self-determination" in the USA, Inc. consists of the inalienable right to choose between fast-food restaurants, not having the right to choose (or even be a small part of the determination process of) anything international, national, or in any way important.

The illusion of the USA being a democracy has eroded to the point to where more people have begun to notice - and what that means is that the government's social engineering /propaganda think-tanks are already on it, spinning the narrative so that US citizens will conclude that democracy wasn't all that great a concept anyway, or, more likely, that democracy is alive and well in the USA, a shining beacon of democracy to the world. The emperor's clothing trick. They've been using this one forever, but I suspect they'll stick with it.

The opposite of democracy is the consolidation of control/power into a very few hands. This is the actual direction that the USA, Inc. and its Western allies have been advancing for many decades, through corporate mergers and acquisitions and governmental collusion with the prime corporate powers (who are either mostly self-interested Americentric corporations, such as high-tech military manufacturers or globalist/"multinational" corporations.) They further their agenda toward global hegemony by ever-expanding governmental control of allies and vassal states.

That's the State of the Union. The concept of "democracy" was beaten to death a long time ago and its corpse propped-up and sprinkled with glitter.

[norman]

People fondly hang on to the idea of democracy because the word still subtly says individuality drives the collective.

Voting and the people being put up to vote for is so corrupt that it's a very long way down the list of effective individual influences on the collective.

How we choose the items and services we consume is higher on that list than voting, but even that runs into the Blackrock phenomenon in the end. They just about own every option.

Meme sharing seems to me to be where the action is now, mostly.

[shaberon]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
I'm kind of surprised that no one yet has injected the meme that democracy is 2 wolves and 1 sheep voting on what to have for dinner. Usually, this is followed by some chest thumping and the declaration that the US of A is not a democracy, nor ever has been; it's a republic.

Why is it even mentioned to begin with? Why do we pretend to exalt Greece?


Demokratia excluded women, foreigners, and slaves. It barred between 80 and 90 percent of the population from political rights.

The idea that the "freedom to make choices" or "diversity" were absolute goods and thus could serve as goals or ideals (on a level with, much less above, family, gods, or polis) contradicted the very premises of Athenian society. Thus while democratic practices ultimately had a marked and deleterious effect on Athenian national strength and public morale and arguably contributed to the loss of Athenian independence, Athenian society managed to stave off the most harmful aspects of democratic theory. Even after they lost their democracy and autonomy, there is little evidence that the Athenians completely lost their fundamental conception of a society based on the principle of duties.

It was not taken all that seriously to begin with, contradicted and degraded Athenian society. And yet this is supposed to be a secret which was miraculously resurrected by some American forerunner?

Vermont and Switzerland both allow democratic referendums on at least some actual issues, while being republics or parts thereof.

Republics are also called Confederacies, and arose independently in India at a noticeably early time ca. 600 B. C. E.

The United States was originally a Confederacy with no taxing power, but, this "Perpetual Union" was rapidly dissolved and replaced by what was called a "consolidated government", that is, a central power. Still, like Greece, it disenfranchised probably 80% of the actual human beings.

So I have no clue what anyone means by "Democracy", why they would say it, or what they might mean by that.

The idea of the "Democratic Party" does not necessarily mean "a form of government", but those who opposed the forces of Wall Street. It was first called Democrat-Republican, being generally against anything consolidated going into the Constitution, and had tried to impose about thirty Amendments for the reason of limiting the central government, things that have nothing to do with the Bill of Rights, which may have been superfluous.


The Atlantic tells us that someone wanted to modify the meaning from "direct democracy" to "majority rule":


Lincoln insisted, “the rule of a minority, as a permanent arrangement, is wholly inadmissible.” Indeed, Lincoln offered a definition of popular government that can guide our understanding of a democracy—or a republic—today: “A majority, held in restraint by constitutional checks, and limitations, and always changing easily, with deliberate changes of popular opinions and sentiments, is the only true sovereign of a free people.”


The Smithsonian gives us an opinion pointing to Washington's Farewell Address, which happens to tell us:



...the importance of a unified national government, the folly of getting involved in foreign affairs...



Wiki's abject History of it is not bothered by a two thousand year lacuna:


The extent to which these 18th-century democratic revivalists succeeded in turning the democratic ideals of the ancient Greeks into the dominant political institution of the next 300 years is hardly debatable...



Some think that because the U. S. has the first "Constitution", that would make it important, and that somehow the French needed this or copied it. But most of the Founders' ideas *were* French. Many of them *did* value the freedoms enjoyed by average citizens of the United Kingdom, and they were *not* anti-monarchists.


One could say they were against inherited nobility, and generally favored term limitations, and then look at Jesse Helms.

Lincoln says we want "majority rule", do we really? We complained about "minority rule" as well. Apparently neither the minority or majority is to be trusted.


I think they are just praising the union formed by the Constitution, in whatever nonsensical manner of their choosing. They debate terms that are not very relevant, and act as if these ideas were somehow superior to similar ideas anywhere else.

"Consolidation of central power" *is* the Constitution, which is the reason it was opposed in the first place, in some cases quite strongly.

[Pris]

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Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
I feel I have to be careful here in what I say, but I'm pretty sure the entire thing has to come down.

I think a little differently. My feeling here is that the entire thing doesn't have to come down at all... at least not all at once and certainly not in any kind of "fire and brimstone" apocalyptic way. The Apocalypse is all about "lifting the veil". Light eradicates the darkness. The people can't fix what they don't know needs fixing. And, that's where we are at right now -- learning about what needs fixing. There's already parts of the system being reworked and replaced as we go. I think we're getting a little background help... a stealthy military-civilian alliance? That's what I'm seeing. And, it's global.

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Everything is breaking. Nothing at all is sustainable. National projects and programs are almost all based on flawed premises, in turn based on equally flawed ideologies. Just look. With eyes wide open, it's all there to see.

The psychopaths have their tentacles in everything. Theirs is the cult of death and destruction, "order out of chaos". But, they're rapidly being exposed. Everyone sees who and what they are now, and they're being called out... which is excellent. Because the psychos can't operate in the light.

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
The way this all connects with the issue of democracy is that citizens are meant to be able to vote bad leaders out of office and choose new ones. But that doesn't work — and hasn't worked for decades.

The people who COULD maybe fix it all — highly intelligent, highly educated, politically unaffiliated, totally ethical and incorruptible people, the exceptional best of the best (and these people do exist) — who in some parallel reality might work together in large, empowered, action-oriented international think tanks with no political donors or sponsors in sight — don't go anywhere near politics, definitely don't want to, and probably couldn't even if they chose to.

We're going through a "waking up" process, wouldn't you say? I'd say everything is changing for the better as people shake off the psyop paralysis and start to actively live "as if" they have the future they want to see. Thoughts are things, so very powerful. The people are powerful and are now beginning to remember just how powerful they've always been.

Fundamentally, everyone is relearning what it takes to make something work from the ground up to benefit everyone equally. Top down is, obviously, out of the question: we clearly see now what centralization of power does. Decentralization is the answer. Restore the corrupted justice system back to being blind once again. And, finally, arrest the psychopaths and criminals and put them on trial.

Watching the States, the voting system is already slowly being reworked, state by state. Ultimately, the goal is: no mail-in ballots, no machines, paper ballots only, one day voting, one day counting by hand, guarded. Personally, I never thought the system could be fixed in a million years... but I'm becoming more optimistic by the day.

The world is watching the States in everything it does. The States is the nexus of this global battle. We're all being taught heavy lessons in what's required to take back our countries and our individual rights and freedom.

Also, in politics worldwide, we're witnessing the rise of a new party, the populist party. In the States, it's called MAGA, and it's exposing the lie of the "two party" political system. The uniparty... the illusion of choice.

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Democracy just does not work. The price the western world will surely pay for that may be enormous. We think it's all happening slowly (though increasingly less so!) — but in historical terms, seen in the context of man's journey over the last 2500 years, it's all happening VERY VERY fast now. Within just a single decade, the entire world might be totally different in a whole bunch of ways.

Yes... I'd say democracy -- even if done correctly -- is horrific. I don't want a mob forcing me to comply with whatever they want against my will. Plandemic. Masks. Death-jabs. Control the narrative, censor opposition, gaslight the population. Create the problem, steer the reaction, force the solution. That's how medical techo-fascist totalitarianism hides behind the facade of democracy. If it's not contrived global medical emergencies, climate emergencies, and wars, then it's other BS like the ozone hole, killer bees, overpopulation, and aliens. It's all psychological warfare and asymmetric warfare terrorism waged against the general population in order to weaken us, keep us off balance, trick us into giving up all our freedom, and force us all to suffer under a "one world government".

But, that's all being exposed. Faster and faster, everything is being exposed.

And, there are key players (we see them, we hear them!) who are working at getting everything into place to repair and fix the damage. It's all building up. Sure, there might be one huge worldwide scare still to come, like the start of WW3. We keep hearing about it (repetition, that's a clue) while Trump has positioned himself on the world stage as the "peacemaker", repeatedly saying he can stop WW3 in 24 hrs. I keep my eye on that man.

I think the United States is experiencing its Second Revolution.

When the whole world seems to be falling apart at the seams while the entire globalist apparatus is constantly attacking Trump, the fact is he's as cool as a cucumber all the while pushing out the incredibly well-planned Agenda 47 to solve all the (world's) problems... He's already planning for the year long 250th birthday celebration of the USA in 2025 going into 2026. I can't help but think there's some wheels turning here and things are happening in such a way to get American's to wake up and take back control of their country. And, the best part? I think the rest of the world is following Trump's lead to take back control of their respective nations...

At least, that's my take.
. . .

[Satori]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
I'm kind of surprised that no one yet has injected the meme that democracy is 2 wolves and 1 sheep voting on what to have for dinner. Usually, this is followed by some chest thumping and the declaration that the US of A is not a democracy, nor ever has been; it's a republic. Those advancing this meme are more than frightened by democracy. They'll say they don't want to be legally subjected to the concepts and ideals of 51% of the population composed mostly of dumbasses. (Of course, they fail to recognize that a republic is just a smaller group of individuals making up the rules than in a true democracy, and so they will still be subjected to rules/laws/policies that didn't come from themselves.)

The meta-analysis paper that was nicknamed "The Princeton Report" concluded that US citizens have ZERO influence over foreign and domestic policy. That is, at very best, the illusion of democracy. "Self-determination" in the USA, Inc. consists of the inalienable right to choose between fast-food restaurants, not having the right to choose (or even be a small part of the determination process of) anything international, national, or in any way important.

The illusion of the USA being a democracy has eroded to the point to where more people have begun to notice - and what that means is that the government's social engineering /propaganda think-tanks are already on it, spinning the narrative so that US citizens will conclude that democracy wasn't all that great a concept anyway, or, more likely, that democracy is alive and well in the USA, a shining beacon of democracy to the world. The emperor's clothing trick. They've been using this one forever, but I suspect they'll stick with it.

The opposite of democracy is the consolidation of control/power into a very few hands. This is the actual direction that the USA, Inc. and its Western allies have been advancing for many decades, through corporate mergers and acquisitions and governmental collusion with the prime corporate powers (who are either mostly self-interested Americentric corporations, such as high-tech military manufacturers or globalist/"multinational" corporations.) They further their agenda toward global hegemony by ever-expanding governmental control of allies and vassal states.

That's the State of the Union. The concept of "democracy" was beaten to death a long time ago and its corpse propped-up and sprinkled with glitter.

That meme was injected recently on another thread on this Forum.

[Pris]

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Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
I'm kind of surprised that no one yet has injected the meme that democracy is 2 wolves and 1 sheep voting on what to have for dinner. Usually, this is followed by some chest thumping and the declaration that the US of A is not a democracy, nor ever has been; it's a republic. Those advancing this meme are more than frightened by democracy. They'll say they don't want to be legally subjected to the concepts and ideals of 51% of the population composed mostly of dumbasses. (Of course, they fail to recognize that a republic is just a smaller group of individuals making up the rules than in a true democracy, and so they will still be subjected to rules/laws/policies that didn't come from themselves.)

Here you go, be surprised no more. (At least it's harder to control people when they're in smaller groups scattered all over the place. And, if you don't like one group, you can join another. There's a reason why the a-holes want everyone out of the countryside and crammed into "15 minute cities" lol.)

Posted by Pris (here)
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Democracy means "rule by the mob". Presently, the sheeple mob ("useful idiots") has been steered and brainwashed to be a pawn for the globalist Mafia mob -- a pawn used to prevent any populist uprising. How has Democracy EVER been a good thing? It's far too easy to manipulate the masses using Democracy. If it's dead, good riddance.

Link to post:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1568685

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
That's the State of the Union. The concept of "democracy" was beaten to death a long time ago and its corpse propped-up and sprinkled with glitter.

Nice. I can easily picture that.

[Pris]

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Posted by shaberon (here)
"Consolidation of central power" *is* the Constitution, which is the reason it was opposed in the first place, in some cases quite strongly.

I found this. Seems that someone from China explains "separation of powers" quite well...

Excerpt:
_________________________________________________________

Separation of Powers in the Central Government

One important principle embodied in the U.S. Constitution is separation of powers. To prevent concentration of power, the U.S. Constitution divides the central government into three branches and creates a system of checks and balances. Each of the three governmental branches, legislative, executive and judicial, “checks” the powers of the other branches to make sure that the principal powers of the government are not concentrated in the hands of any single branch. The principle of separation of powers and the system of checks and balances perform essential functions and contribute to a stable political situation in the United States.
_________________________________________________________

Link to full 'report':
https://www.varsitytutors.com/ca/ear...eparates-power

...


By the way, Derek Johnson talks about the USA being under military occupation right now -- under COG (Continuity of Government), recently changed to COOP (Continuity of Operations Plan).

Posted by Pris (here)
Derek says, "There's two powers in the US -- the military and the federal government. And, for the first time in United States history... this is why nothing else matters right now: no courts, no Congress, no anybody... but Donald John Trump, the Generals, and the military."

Link to post (and video):
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1566228

[DNA]

Posted by Franny (here)
A few quotes about control from above:

Globalists have controlled and subverted mainstream culture for the last 60 years or so.

I might offer the view that it's not the imperfect system that's rotten, it's the people controlling and manipulating it. With those same people in power and influence, any other system would be corrupted in the same way.

To which the only reply back is, "RACIST! TRANSPHOBE! WHITE SUPREMICIST!" It really is a fascinating magic trick to mind control an entire species of thinking, often intelligent people... especially to the end of their own demise.

I think this is a slightly abbreviated version of the original video from Darren Brown of the Birthday Present. It shows in a few minutes how a master NLP manipulator can replace a thought in this man's mind in minutes. DB even tells the man what he is doing. The birthday man's mind is changed in such a way he does not remember or care about the item he originally wanted, even when he sees the proof.

A friend told me recently that he knew global warming was absolutely true and I know there is not a thing I can say or show him that will change his mind. He has no idea there are control systems in place and unquestioningly accepts what he is told. He even says the government can lie but still he believes and obeys. I mentioned a quote by Thomas Sowell, "if you think your government cares about you, you don't know history." He agreed, but still believes and obeys. This is the status for so very many people.

Humans are easily controlled when one knows how and it can be brought to bear in any system; religious, educational, political or otherwise. Systems are very useful to the controllers, they don't really care much what we believe. As long as we believe in a system, it can be a mechanism thorough which we can be controlled.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=YMropN6ft4Y

Excellent points all the way around Franny!
Folks keep talking about the system and it's faults rather than the abductors and orchestrators of the system and the system's demise.

Too many posts here seem to be hinting that the system was meant to fail due to inherit flaws in its construction rather than point to deconstruction specialists and their financial enablers.

And this is indeed where the use of NLP themed brain washing through repetition, Hollywood fame leveraged endorsement and never ending exposure through movies, tv, music and news have done their magic.

Klause Schwab could literally give a power point presentation on what he is going to do to the masses while George Soros is twerking up and down the stage making it rain check receipts and campaign contributions to liberal politicians and district attorneys all across the western world.
Things were bad when politicians took bribes and were never held accountable.

The same thing is now happening with the judicial system and the whole thing is crumbling exponentially faster as a result.

Democracy was created with the understanding it would be cherished, coveted and protected.
But the indoctrination of 70 years of satanic Hollywood has paved a way to our demise with best intentions and blinders.

[DNA]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=eXOI-2aQNDI

I hate to be a thread killer.
I love this song.
Treasure hands by Lucy's fur coat.
The chorus goes
"Times are changing for the worse I wish they weren't but I know they are".

It's a good song.
Now on to another subject.
I was given a video by a former member of the forum a few days ago.
He asked me to watch it.
Honestly I didn't really want to but I was glad I did.

This guy's name is Michael Herrera.
You've never heard of him.
He only has one story and it's relatively short.
It's simple, to the point.
Why this interview strikes me as worth the interest is the person.

This is a regular old marine with a wrong place wrong time one off story.
He is deployed and in a South East Asian country like Thailand or Indonesia and he is there to help protect humanitarian efforts after a bad earth quake.
This guy's story is reinforced by his demeanor and way of talking.
I've known quite a few marines and this is just how they come across. And a lot of cussing.
So he is in a small four man unit when he is told to go with his fellow men to a spot about five kilometers away.
So they do so.

And while standing guard a group of nine special forces guys get the drop on them, they are disarmed and told repeatedly that they will probably be executed.
And then they see a huge anti-gravity ship come down to the ground hovering mere inches from the ground.
And then unmarked black trucks arrive loading metal shipping containers on to the craft. All the while the marines are at gun point from these special forces guys in unmarked black uniforms.
Herrera then tells us he is part of a contingency coming before congress to tell their stories trying to force the USA to begin disclosure.

It's a good telling especially how he says he thought they were going to be killed and thrown in the bush but were probably saved by the proximity of their battalion possibly hearing the shots.

Also worth mentioning, Herrera said he was told while on a congress hearing that those shipping containers were probably people, and probably kids.
The ex-Avolon member seemed to really want my opinion on that.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=3zm4nh3S66I

So I brought up Phil Schnieder. Now before some nay sayer jumps out of the wood work to debunk a man's life work based on some discrepancy with government paper work let's try to remember, Phil got a lot of sh!t right.

Here is Phil Schnieder 32 minutes in talking about how off world aliens, negative aliens, use us for our blood and adrenals, for something called adrenochrome.
Hmph, makes you wonder.



This was back in 94.
Before the effing internet.
Who the hell had ever heard of adrenochrome???
Especially a geologist.
The remarks Phil makes about the USA trading humans for technology shouldn't be lost on folks, especially in how it relates to the marines story. I will say also I've heard other sources say that the USA is making deals with negative ETs that give us crappy anti-gravity ships with fuel requirements so exotic we can't make it and we are dependent upon them for fuel.

Which brings me back to this thread.
The elite of this world practice everything Phil Schnieder talks about, almost to the point of it being a cargo cult.
The Hollywood/DC/elite procurement and consumption of adrenochrome.
Which makes you wonder.
Is the whole Moloch worship limited to this world?
And more importantly is our government influenced and or controlled by something extraterrestrial or extra dimensional?

At times it seems when watching the level of depravity that is taking place it seems like a potentially valid prospect.

https://rumble.com/v29k4j0-phil-schn...-ever-exp.html

[Antagenet]

Posted by rgray222 (here)
[B]Antagenet, you are out of line. Your post clearly states that every aspect of every problem in the world (see below) is virtually the result of Jews.

Whoa!! lol. Look a little more closely, my friend,
I said
MOST OF THE CONTROL.
(Not every damn problem on earth!!!)