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    Moscow will achieve peace in Ukraine on its own terms – Medvedev 8 Aug, 2023

    The ex-Russian president noted that Georgia’s attack on South Ossetia in 2008 failed despite Western support

    While Ukraine is enjoying unprecedented Western support, it will not prevent Moscow from achieving its national security goals – just as it did not help Georgia’s ill-fated invasion of South Ossetia in 2008, former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev said on Tuesday.

    Writing on Telegram on the 15th anniversary of the start of the five-day conflict between Russia and Georgia, which erupted when Tbilisi shelled the South Ossetian capital, Tskhinval, Medvedev noted that Moscow “responded resolutely to the despicable attack” and “gave a tough rebuff to the aggressor.”

    Medvedev, who was president at the time of the hostilities, said that then-Georgian leader Mikhail Saakashvili had the backing of “the collective West, which even then was trying to stir up the situation in the immediate vicinity of Russia’s borders.”

    However, Medvedev continued, it took Moscow’s military less than a week “to severely punish the impudent [Georgian] nationalists.”

    Explaining the West’s failure to do more to derail Russia at the time, the ex-president said that “the US and its vassals clearly did not have enough experience then.”

    “Today they are once again waging a criminal war by proxy, trying to wipe Russia off the face of the earth,” he added, referring to the conflict in Ukraine.

    "The entire NATO system is fighting against us practically in the open. We have enough forces to solve all the tasks of the special military operation. Just like in August 2008, our enemies will be crushed, and Russia will achieve peace on its own terms."

    When Tbilisi, which at the time was actively seeking closer ties with NATO, attacked the breakaway republic of South Ossetia, Moscow responded by announcing a ‘peace enforcement operation’ to protect Russian citizens living in the area, as well as the local Russian peacekeeping contingent. Meanwhile, another breakaway region – Abkhazia – announced a mobilization, fearing a renewal of fighting with Tbilisi.

    Russian reinforcements quickly turned the tide, pushing Georgian forces back into their territory, with Medvedev announcing the end of the operation on August 12. Later that month, Moscow recognized the independence of South Ossetia and Abkhazia. Tbilisi, however, still claims both territories as its own, with only a handful of countries, including Syria and Venezuela, recognizing their independence.

    Russian officials have repeatedly slammed the West over its massive weapons deliveries to Ukraine, arguing that it will only prolong the conflict, but will fail to change the outcome. Moscow has also said that the security assistance makes NATO a direct participant in the hostilities.

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    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
    https://twitter.com/dana916/status/1688740412612083712

    That was the Humanity for Peace Rally in New York City. I am please to say I was there at the tail end of it but missed Scott Ritter and many of the other fine speakers.

    You can view the whole presentation below. It begins with an prerecorded speech by RFK Jr. from another location and then Scott Ritter's complete speech about begins 42 minutes in.

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    Quote Posted by Matthew (here)
    Saladin was praised for his political and military skills AND his generosity and chivalry. I have a feeling these historical combatants regarded their foes as human in amongst the heat. After all is said and done I feel for the conscripted Ukrainians.

    Correct.

    Saladin was actually Kurdish, from Tikrit, Iraq, not a Palestinian Arab.

    De-humanization comes straight from Aristotle's teaching to the Macedonian Alexander the Great:


    Non-Greeks are non-human animals; slaughter them like livestock.

    This is the major basis of "western civilization".

    Obviously, it is no longer confined to "Greek nationality", but has been expanded to "our superior system", including Italians, English, Ukrainians, and whoever else goes into it. Russia is not, it derives from the Platonic side of the Greek sphere.

    You might also notice that the humanized version of warfare does not involve getting really mad at someone, whereas the western way seems to involve planting anger in every form of communication they have.

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    Another rather tragic marker of the deteriorating condition of Ukraine's military.
    (The problem may also be one of new recruits shooting their commanders as well as themselves.)

    The text:

    Order of the commander of the 124th territorial defence brigade of the AFU, Colonel D. Ishchenko:
    "In connection with the high losses of personnel in combat positions, the low morale and psychological state of the newly arrived mobilized in the units of the brigade, as well as the increasing number of suicide cases,
    I ORDER:
    ... 3. In order to avoid the manifestation of suicide attempts at combat positions, ammunition should not be issued to newly arrived (mobilized) servicemen. ...
    Colonel D. Ishchenko"

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    Is there the beginning of a shift with some mainstream media regarding Ukraine? Posting below the link to a Washington Post article referring to high numbers of Ukrainian soldiers casualties and quoting Ukrainians critical of sending untrained new recruits to a sure death at the frontline. (The article is too long to post all of it here.) Does this mean that the west is preparing to disengage from Ukraine?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...fensive-gloom/

    "Slow counteroffensive darkens mood in Ukraine"
    August 10, 2023

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    Quote Posted by Rizotto (here)
    Is there the beginning of a shift with some mainstream media regarding Ukraine?

    Yes, I think so.

    Not in terms of their propaganda values, but, at a certain point, the actual facts cannot be contained.

    Once it becomes perceived as a huge waste of money, then the gifts are likely to decrease. However, there is some chance that Poland, wanting to be the new continental power, may spring into action, perhaps with some outside assistance. I think it is more likely that they will ratchet Cold War II, which is still a fool's errand, especially when it is shown that western hardware has lost the arms race by about twenty years.

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    https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status...13554863751169



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    It is reported from the field that in the battles for Andreyevka and Klescheyevka, despite their extremely intense nature in recent weeks, there may be a turn in favor of the Russian army. Therefore, the Ukrainian forces have been repelled from the southern part of Klesheyevka and are not launching new breakthrough attempts. Russian units have protected the settlement with considerable bloodshed. The Russian forces fight heroically. Changes in the tactics of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in this direction are possible in the near future.

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    Text:
    Kupiansk sector of the front
    situation as of 15.00 August 10, 2023

    🔻Under Kupiansk, servicemen of the Russian Armed Forces group "West" are conducting a positional attack on the positions of Ukrainian formations north-west of the city.

    The position of the AFU has seriously deteriorated. The number of casualties as a result of systematic attacks by Russian troops is growing. And evacuation is virtually impossible due to constant shelling and the unwillingness of evacuation groups to climb to the front line.

    🔻Only today, an enemy armored vehicle was hit by an accurate artillery strike, which was supposed to pick up the wounded from Synkivka. The AFU sent another BMP, but it also came under fire.

    Forces 14 Mechanized Brigade and teroborony refuse to fight. The only formations still offering resistance are units of the 95th Air Assault Brigade, deployed to help.

    ❗️ However, this did not help either. At the moment, the battles are going on near Sinkovka. The paratroopers of the 95th brigade retreated from one of the strongholds. But for now, it is premature to talk about approaching Kupyansk, the offensive continues.
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    About the preparation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine for mass strikes on the southern territories of Russia

    Recently, the command of the naval forces of Ukraine announced the introduction of no-navigation zones in the Russian ports of Taman , Tuapse , Anapa , Novorossiysk , Gelendzhik and Sochi . But not immediately, but from August 23 , calling them a risk zone.

    The advance publication of such data is part of an information operation aimed at artificially escalating tension in the southern regions of the Russian Federation. In addition, this may create confusion among civilian shipping companies operating in the Black Sea .

    ❗️At the same time, strikes and attacks not only on warships of the Russian Navy, but also on civilian ships are quite likely. Against the backdrop of the recent attack on the Sig tanker, this is already rather a standard practice of the Armed Forces of Ukraine as part of complex attacks on Russian territories.

    This is supported by the increased activity of NATO intelligence. Only today, exactly after the drone raid , at least six aircraft and UAVs operated in the air over the Black Sea zone.

    The flight of the French E-3F aircraft, which is a harbinger of future attacks by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, looks especially curious. He operated in a completely new area - in the southeastern part of the Black Sea off the coast of the Krasnodar Territory at a distance of less than 190 km .

    📌 Also now, about 110 kilometers south of Crimea, the British RC-135 reconnaissance aircraft is working together with the American RQ-4B drone. Judging by the proximity to the Crimea, as well as the danger zone introduced near the Black Sea ports, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are planning a massive combined attack, and today's attack is an assessment of the defense of Crimea.

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    Armed Forces of Ukraine shelled the Bryansk region - one civilian was killed, two more were injured - the governor of the region Alexander Bogomaz

    The shelling took place in the village of Chausy. The wounded were taken to a local hospital where they receive all the necessary medical care.

    Agricultural enterprises also suffered as a result of the shelling. Emergency services are on site.

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    🇺🇦⛪ Media: in the Kiev-Pechersk Lavra, 4 buildings were sealed bypassing the law

    Among them are hotel premises and church shops. Now the situation is tense, people on the territory of the Lavra are allowed only with passports.

    ✖️ The parishioners fear that the invaders will try to completely evict the UOC from the Lavra tomorrow. Security forces continue to be on duty on the territory of the shrine.

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    Text:

    Ukrainian psychologist Oleh Khomyak says that Ukraine cannot live without corruption: Corruption is a load-bearing structure of the state. I am not joking. If it is removed, the state will cease to exist, it will collapse. It could look terrible. Corruption gives meaning to the existence of state power.

    Note: remembering the return of Crimea.... Russia changed officials there 3 times to stop at least partially the corruption component.
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    War in Ukraine (08/10/23): AFRF offensive near Kupyansk - the enemy faltered and retreats

    Our offensive near Kupyansk is developing quite successfully and on a broad front. This does not give the enemy the opportunity to concentrate reserves in one area, and artillery and aviation power devastates the ranks of the enemy and forces him to transfer more and more reinforcements here, which has already led to essentially curtailing the attempts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to regain control of Artemovsk.

    #source

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    The Russian Defense Ministry reported that 13 Ukrainian drones were shot down today by the air defense forces of the Russian Armed Forces.

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