Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

[Pris]

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Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
Hi Ernie...
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Let's move any discussion about supporting Trump or expounding on the "common sense policy" and "path to victory" that you believe Trump has laid out in one of the Trump threads. I'd love to hear your observations on what specifically "common sense policy" and "path to victory" actually means, beyond nebulous, jingoistic phrases, because I honestly have not heard them laid out.

How about this? Pertinent to what's currently going on in America with some foreign policy (albeit with regard to Ukraine but certainly relevant to the broader world picture in general and new events as they transpire [Trump seems to keep adding more to his Agenda47 depending on what's required]):

Posted by Pris (here)
This is my Trump thread after all, so I'll share a link to all his Agenda47 video announcements. Trump addresses the issues America faces and provides polished solutions. Trump is definitely backed by something huge. Looks like the military to me. He's about as confident and courageous as they get.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/agenda47
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Link to post:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1581144

[ExomatrixTV]

• A View From Israel: David Icke talks with Israeli freedom and peace activist Shai Danon (Powerful):

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• David Icke - what's REALLY happening in Israel (1.1 Million Views in 2 days):

[Bill Ryan]

From The Moon of Alabama today. The faux title is deliberately ironic.

(There's a video out there today, openly published by Israel, showing Hamas soldiers surrendering to the Israeli IDF — and all immediately being shot dead.)

• https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/1...rime.html#more

Israel Confesses War Crime

No, not really. Israel did not confess war crimes. It never does. It proudly announced that it will now commit a war crime:

Israel's defence minister described Palestinians as "human animals" and vowed to "act accordingly," as fighter jets unleashed a massive bombing campaign on the Gaza Strip. Yoav Gallant announced a "complete siege" of the Gaza Strip, an area of about 365 square km, and home to 2.3 million Palestinians, which has been under an Israeli-led blockade since 2007.
"I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed," Gallant said.
"We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly," he added.
The Israeli air force has dropped 2,000 munitions and more than 1,000 tonnes of bombs on Gaza in the last 20 hours, the army said on Monday morning, having shelled 20 high-rise residential buildings, mosques, hospitals, banks and other civilian infrastructure.

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Ragıp Soylu @ragipsoylu - 13:37 UTC · Oct 10, 2023 Israel military spokesman Daniel Hagari said that the army drops hundreds of tons of bombs in attacks in the Gaza Strip, and —— "the emphasis is on damage and not on accuracy.”
— Haaretz|

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Haaretz commentator Gideon Levy:
Israel Can’t Imprison Two Million Gazans Without Paying a Cruel Price (archived)

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On Saturday they were already talking about wiping out entire neighborhoods in Gaza, about occupying the Strip and punishing Gaza “as it has never been punished before.” But Israel hasn’t stopped punishing Gaza since 1948, not for a moment. After 75 years of abuse, the worse possible scenario awaits it once again. The threats of “flattening Gaza” prove only one thing: We haven’t learned a thing. The arrogance is here to stay, even though Israel is paying a high price once again.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu bears very great responsibility for what happened, and he must pay the price, but it didn’t start with him and it won’t end after he goes. We now have to cry bitterly for the Israeli victims, but we should also cry for Gaza.
Gaza, most of whose residents are refugees created by Israel. Gaza, which has never known a single day of freedom.

The Israeli government has called up another 360,000 reservists for a total of 660,000 reservists plus the 170,000 in the regular standing forces. Israel's total labor force is 4.4 million.

This is not sustainable for more than a week or two. With 660,000 mostly young people, 15% of the total workforce, suddenly absent, Israel's economy will immediately tank. The Shekel and the Israeli stock market have already dropped significantly and the central bank had to intervene to keep the currency stable.

Meanwhile 200,000 out of a total of 2.3 million Palestinians in Gaza are now displaced. Israel bombed their homes to smithereens and they have nowhere to go.

A few days ago Netanyahu told people in Gaza to leave. The only place they theoretically could go is Egypt. Today Israel bombed the Rafah border crossing between Gaza and Egypt.

A ground invasion of Gaza will be difficult and likely lead to massacres - on both sides. Hezbollah in Lebanon and Syria would likely see a ground invasion of Gaza as a reason to intervene. It has missiles and drones that are precise and can reach any part of Israel. Israel may then retaliate by attacking the Syrian government. Iran and Russia would thereby get involved in the war. The U.S. of course would jump in on Israel's side.

This war could really, really escalate and do so soon.

[SilentFeathers]

Food for thought....

Does anyone actually believe that Israel can go into Gaza and eradicate Hamas without killing 10's of thousands of unarmed civilian men, women, and children?
I don't blame Israel for wanting revenge and wanting Hamas eliminated, but I doubt if the world will stand by quietly and watch 1000's of unarmed civilians being slaughtered because they just happened to be in the way. I see Israel going forward with this regardless.

Another thing I've noticed after watching several clips of these Hamas fighters attacking these Israeli towns etc., is that I personally don't believe they were all Hamas fighters. Many of them "to me" appeared to look like ISIS fighters. Many clips looked like they could have been clips straight out of Syria and Iraq from a few years back. I'm not implying that these Hamas clips were fake, I'm implying that I personally believe that many of these fighters could have been battle hardened ISIS fighters that re-grouped with Hamas a few years ago. Many in the news media and witnesses on the ground have also said that this attack appeared to be different from anything they've seen before from Hamas. This has ISIS written all over it in my opinion. I may be wrong but I personally do NOT believe this was just Hamas fighters from Gaza who did this.

I watched the Biden speech today....I'm sorry folks but I do NOT believe a single word that ever comes out of this idiot's mouth. He is so on board with Israel and with what Israel is about to do in Gaza it's got me scratching my head and only confirming in my own mind that something way bigger is going on here than just Israel going into Gaza and wiping out Hamas. This is a 180 from how the Obama/Biden admin was with Israel and even how Biden was with Israel just 2 years ago. I don't think it'll take but a week, maybe two, before the true plan will be clear to see. It's looking more and more like Iran is the target in my opinion. I also personally believe than many on the far left in the Democratic party were fuming and had blood squirting out of their eyes after Biden's speech today!

As for the US, specifically relating to an event happening within its borders, I stick with what I said in an earlier post.... something big is going to happen sooner rather than later.

Rregardless of whatever is coming or whatever is going to happen, I find it completely astonishing how so many people on this planet can be so easily manipulated.

[shaberon]

In addition to the above--i. e., you don't shoot surrendered POWs--we see, at the very least, intentional attacks on Gaza civilians, the likely use of white phosphorous, and, an attempt to blockade the entire region from everything.

Is it possible to commit a bigger crime? Not really.

It is like the cryptically hidden confessions of the 1950s, except now they say it in the news.

Those horrifying things that would have originally prevented American support for Israel, such as its gangsterish and terroristic ways? Normalized. To the drone mind, anyway. Take in German Nazis, install Israeli equivalents. What a foreign policy.




By now it is at the beginning of Islamic Jihad and Hamas both firing on Tel Aviv and Ben Gurion airport.


Despite the logistical barrier, here is the statement from that resistor of Saudi Arabia, Yemen:

Leader of Ansarullah Movement Sayyed Abdul Malik Badreddine Al-Houthi stressed that Yemen is ready to participate even in waging rocketry and drone attacks if the Americans intervene directly in the Zionist aggression on Gaza.

In a televised speech on Tuesday, Sayyed Al-Houthi hailed the Palestinian Resistance fighters, felicitating all the Palestinians on the great victory of Al-Aqsa Flood Operation.

“Should the geographical barriers be removed, hundreds of thousands of Yemeni fighters are ready to back the Palestinian resistance against the Zionist aggression on Gaza.”

Sayyed Al-Houthi affirmed that Ansarullah Movement is in full coordination with the axis of resistance in order to maintain certain redlines, stressing that the Palestinian fighters will not be left alone.

He lauded the recent surprise attack by Gaza-based resistance groups against the Israeli occupying regime as a momentous “historic victory” that has disrupted established equations and inflicted substantial losses on the illegitimate entity.

In his address, he emphasized that “Operation al-Aqsa Storm” constituted a “legitimate” response to decades of Israeli aggression and atrocities against Palestinians. Since the operation began on Saturday, resistance groups in the besieged Gaza Strip have launched over 5,000 rockets towards the occupied territories. Israeli media outlets report that more than 1,000 settlers and soldiers have been killed, with many more injured as a result.

Al-Houthi stated, “Operation al-Aqsa Storm is a monumental and essential operation that aligns with the legitimate rights of Palestinian fighters and the Palestinian people. It enables them to confront their oppressive, criminal occupiers—the enemy who subjects them to various injustices and daily violence.” He further highlighted that Israel not only kills innocent civilians, including children and women, but also denies them their fundamental rights, including the right to independence and freedom, while unlawfully occupying their land.

Describing “al-Aqsa Storm” as an “unprecedented historic victory” achieved through the heroic resistance effort, al-Houthi stressed that it had significant repercussions, breaking established norms and inflicting losses on the ruthless Zionist enemy.

He underlined the enduring oppression faced by the Palestinian people since the establishment of the usurping Israeli regime, which has systematically practiced injustice and tyranny against them. He noted, “The origins of this regime are steeped in crime, murder, attacks in various forms, land usurpation, rights confiscation, and the abduction and torture of the Palestinian people.”

Al-Houthi also called out Western governments and the United States for their complicity in Israeli crimes against Palestinians, emphasizing, “Since its inception, the Israeli regime has been nurtured by arrogant colonial powers, starting with Britain and culminating with the US. It has consistently enjoyed unwavering support from Americans and Western nations.” He asserted that the US bears responsibility for its partnership in the Israeli enemy’s criminal actions against innocent civilians, especially women and children.

Al-Houthi further contended that ‘Israel’ lacks legitimacy and criticized the international community and world bodies for their inaction regarding Israel’s decades-long aggression against Palestinians. He questioned the United Nations’ effectiveness in addressing the plight of the Palestinian people and argued that Israel’s UN membership should be reconsidered due to its lack of legitimacy.

In his televised address, Al-Houthi commended the combat readiness of Palestinian resistance fighters in Gaza, noting their significant capabilities and tangible achievements over the years. He called upon everyone to support the Palestinian people and their resistance fighters through political, media, and even military means. Al-Houthi stressed that it is unacceptable to witness the Palestinian people and their heroic fighters receive limited support while Western countries continue to back the oppressive Zionist enemy.

Lastly, Al-Houthi condemned the “shameful” normalization efforts by certain Arab countries, asserting that such actions undermine the Palestinian people’s struggle by isolating them from crucial support. He emphasized the importance of standing in solidarity with the Palestinian cause against the backdrop of normalization agreements that compromise the Palestinians’ quest for justice and liberation.

It would take someone like Egypt to green light their passage, and then they would probably have to defeat the American Navy in the Red Sea, otherwise this would be happening at once. On the level of popular will, it is very true, but I am npt aware they have any means of force projection.


Notice that the bordering state actor, Syria, has almost nothing to say. They don't need to. For them not to have hardly taken any shots for the past several years while Israel continues to attack their country is somewhat dignified.


On our lovely divisions, one may see that Judaism hovers around .2% of the world's population.

Islam is rapidly growing, everywhere, and is up to around 30%. The reasons and solidarity here should be fairly obvious.

The big contender is actually moving:

One of the major religion-related news headlines today revolves around the decline of Christianity in North America. Western Europe is now considered post-Christian and surveys consistently report declines in religious belief, attendance, and self-identification. Yet, over the last century, there has been a pronounced shift of Christianity from the Global North to the Global South, with dramatic growth of Christian populations in places like sub-Saharan Africa and East Asia.

It's not fast enough to pull the plug on American Zionism today, but it does show a lack of solidarity.

[ExomatrixTV]

• 2015: US Officials Ask How ISIS Got So Many Brand New White Toyota Trucks in Syria?
  
• 2023: The World Ask How HAMAS Got So Many White Toyota Trucks
  

Did not USA help ISIS in Syria? Calling them "Syrian Rebels" ... Same trick USA used in Libya: ..."Libyan Rebels" also helped by The USA that were brutal savages!

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

[Ravenlocke]

Text:
The Israeli Air Force attacked the border checkpoint in the city of Rafah, on the border with Egypt.

From the very beginning of the current conflict, Palestinian residents have been trying en masse to cross this border crossing point into Egyptian territory, fleeing attacks from the Israeli army.

Slavyangrad

https://x.com/dana916/status/1711816005159203121

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1) At least 1,000 Israelis and 830 Palestinians have been killed, with thousands wounded on both sides

2) The prosecutor for the International Criminal Court said the court’s mandate applies to the current conflict, as it has an ongoing investigation for alleged war crimes committed since 13 June 2014

3) A senior Hamas official denied reports that Iran was involved in the planning of the Palestinian attack on Israel

4) A Palestinian Liberation Organisation official said that Israel refused a request to bring food and medical supplies into Gaza

5) US President Biden gave a public address on the Israel-Palestine war. He said at least 14 Americans have been killed so far and that the US is surging increased military assistance to Israel. He made no mention of Israel’s large-scale bombardment of Gaza or its decision to impose a full siege

6) Thousands gathered in Amman protest in solidarity with Gaza

7) The EU foreign policy chief said that while Israel has the right to defend itself, some of the decisions it has made are against international law. He also said that stopping aid to Palestinians would be a mistake

8) UK Home Secretary Braverman sent a letter advising that the police should consider whether to view acts like waving the Palestinian flag or chanting “from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free”, as a crime

9) 177,000 people in Gaza are sheltering in UNRWA schools

10) Turkish Airlines suspended flights to Israel until further notice, according to several Turkish media reports

11) The number of French citizens killed in the attacks in Israel rose to at least eight

12) Sweden is temporarily halting development aid to Palestine

13) Turkey’s Erdogan said Israel has ‘no right’ to cut off water to Gaza

14) The Scottish first minister called on the UK government to push for a corridor to evacuate civilians from Gaza. He also revealed that his parents-in-law are “trapped” in Gaza, amid four consecutive days of Israeli air strikes

15) Renewed gun fights between Israeli troops and Palestinian fighters were reported in Sderot, Israeli media

16) Israel’s military announced that its army was firing artillery at rocket launch sites in Lebanon

17) Heavy rockets hit Ashkelon with casualties reported

18) Rockets were fired simultaneously from Lebanon and Gaza towards Israel, with sirens blaring in southern and northern Israel

19) Two members of Hamas’ political bureau, including an economy minister of the Gaza-based administration, were killed in Israeli air strikes

20) An Israeli military general doubled down on his defence minister’s labelling of Palestinians as “human animals” and vowed to give them “hell”

21) Egyptian fuel trucks and relief materials were filmed leaving the vicinity of the Rafah crossing between Gaza and Egypt

22) A military source at the Jordanian military denied reports that the US army used a base in Jordan to transport supplies to Israel, according to Jordanian media

23) Sirens were activated in Tel Aviv and across Israel, the Israeli army said

24) Russia’s President Putin said the sharp escalation of the Israel-Palestinian conflict was a vivid example of the US’ policy failure in the Middle East

25) The spokesman of Hamas’ Izzideen al-Qassam Brigades said Ashkelon residents should leave the coastal Israeli city before 5 pm local time (2pm GMT)

26) An Israeli army spokesperson said that “accuracy” is not the primary concern when it comes to attacking the Gaza Strip

27) Israel said it will bomb trucks carrying supplies from Egypt to Gaza, according to Israel’s Channel 12

28) The Palestinian health ministry in Gaza said it is facing difficulties updating the death toll regularly due to disruptions to internet and communication networks

29) PM Netanyahu’s Likud party released a statement saying that all coalition partners in the government now favour the creation of an “emergency” national unity government

https://x.com/sparkle0100/status/1711839989410013511

https://x.com/GeromanAT/status/1711848413686280650

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
Food for thought....

Does anyone actually believe that Israel can go into Gaza and eradicate Hamas without killing 10's of thousands of unarmed civilian men, women, and children?
I don't blame Israel for wanting revenge and wanting Hamas eliminated, but I doubt if the world will stand by quietly and watch 1000's of unarmed civilians being slaughtered because they just happened to be in the way. I see Israel going forward with this regardless.

Another thing I've noticed after watching several clips of these Hamas fighters attacking these Israeli towns etc., is that I personally don't believe they were all Hamas fighters. Many of them "to me" appeared to look like ISIS fighters. Many clips looked like they could have been clips straight out of Syria and Iraq from a few years back. I'm not implying that these Hamas clips were fake, I'm implying that I personally believe that many of these fighters could have been battle hardened ISIS fighters that re-grouped with Hamas a few years ago. Many in the news media and witnesses on the ground have also said that this attack appeared to be different from anything they've seen before from Hamas. This has ISIS written all over it in my opinion. I may be wrong but I personally do NOT believe this was just Hamas fighters from Gaza who did this.

I watched the Biden speech today....I'm sorry folks but I do NOT believe a single word that ever comes out of this idiot's mouth. He is so on board with Israel and with what Israel is about to do in Gaza it's got me scratching my head and only confirming in my own mind that something way bigger is going on here than just Israel going into Gaza and wiping out Hamas. This is a 180 from how the Obama/Biden admin was with Israel and even how Biden was with Israel just 2 years ago. I don't think it'll take but a week, maybe two, before the true plan will be clear to see. It's looking more and more like Iran is the target in my opinion. I also personally believe than many on the far left in the Democratic party were fuming and had blood squirting out of their eyes after Biden's speech today!

As for the US, specifically relating to an event happening within its borders, I stick with what I said in an earlier post.... something big is going to happen sooner rather than later.

Rregardless of whatever is coming or whatever is going to happen, I find it completely astonishing how so many people on this planet can be so easily manipulated.

In response to all the excellent points you made here, I'd like to add one more, which is simple and seems to me to be a matter of pure logical inference.

IF the events that happened when Hamas suddenly attacked Israel were in some way orchestrated, encouraged, allowed to happen, or in any other way engineered by western and/or Israeli agencies (and so all is NOT what it immediately seems)

THEN it means that a wider regional war, and possibly something that would escalate close to WWIII, is also part of that same plan and may now be hard to avoid.

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/Faytuks/status/1711836983457116371

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1711770599423701299

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/Somali_ICS/status/1711791205053297041

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)

• 2015: US Officials Ask How ISIS Got So Many Brand New White Toyota Trucks in Syria?
  
• 2023: The World Ask How HAMAS Got So Many White Toyota Trucks
  

Did not USA help ISIS in Syria? Calling them "Syrian Rebels" ... Same trick USA used in Libya: ..."Libyan Rebels" also helped by The USA that were brutal savages!

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

Those white vehicles in the clips are exactly what made me think it was ISIS doing these attacks alongside with the Hamas fighters.

[ExomatrixTV]

• Deep Intel on Why a US Carrier is Headed to the Israel-Hamas War:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=diQd36827mQ

Ward reviews the basics around the arrival of the Ford Strike Group in the eastern Mediterranean following the Hamas attack on Israel.

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
Food for thought....

Does anyone actually believe that Israel can go into Gaza and eradicate Hamas without killing 10's of thousands of unarmed civilian men, women, and children?
I don't blame Israel for wanting revenge and wanting Hamas eliminated, but I doubt if the world will stand by quietly and watch 1000's of unarmed civilians being slaughtered because they just happened to be in the way. I see Israel going forward with this regardless.

Another thing I've noticed after watching several clips of these Hamas fighters attacking these Israeli towns etc., is that I personally don't believe they were all Hamas fighters. Many of them "to me" appeared to look like ISIS fighters. Many clips looked like they could have been clips straight out of Syria and Iraq from a few years back. I'm not implying that these Hamas clips were fake, I'm implying that I personally believe that many of these fighters could have been battle hardened ISIS fighters that re-grouped with Hamas a few years ago. Many in the news media and witnesses on the ground have also said that this attack appeared to be different from anything they've seen before from Hamas. This has ISIS written all over it in my opinion. I may be wrong but I personally do NOT believe this was just Hamas fighters from Gaza who did this.

I watched the Biden speech today....I'm sorry folks but I do NOT believe a single word that ever comes out of this idiot's mouth. He is so on board with Israel and with what Israel is about to do in Gaza it's got me scratching my head and only confirming in my own mind that something way bigger is going on here than just Israel going into Gaza and wiping out Hamas. This is a 180 from how the Obama/Biden admin was with Israel and even how Biden was with Israel just 2 years ago. I don't think it'll take but a week, maybe two, before the true plan will be clear to see. It's looking more and more like Iran is the target in my opinion. I also personally believe than many on the far left in the Democratic party were fuming and had blood squirting out of their eyes after Biden's speech today!

As for the US, specifically relating to an event happening within its borders, I stick with what I said in an earlier post.... something big is going to happen sooner rather than later.

Rregardless of whatever is coming or whatever is going to happen, I find it completely astonishing how so many people on this planet can be so easily manipulated.

In response to all the excellent points you made here, I'd like to add one more, which is simple and seems to me to be a matter of pure logical inference.

IF the events that happened when Hamas suddenly attacked Israel were in some way orchestrated, encouraged, allowed to happen, or in any other way engineered by western and/or Israeli agencies (and so all is NOT what it immediately seems)

THEN it means that a wider regional war, and possibly something that would escalate close to WWIII, is also part of that same plan and may now be hard to avoid.

I totally think this is what's happening. A wider regional war in the Middle East would distract from the many crimes and extreme corruption being exposed now. (especially in Ukraine and involving many politicians). The military industrial complex will be back in business bigtime and that will prop the dollar up for a while longer. I could go on and on, regardless, WW3 is a huge possibility.

Also, a huge event inside the US would cause chaos and most likely put everyone on lockdown again. Basically, it'll be martial law like again and cause the next election to be done by mail so they can control the outcome (or no election at all). Either way the Democrats and shadow gov will remain in power. They will never allow Trump back in office, they're making that clear now.
It'll be really bad here in the US if a bunch of fighters shoot up some places here like they did in Israel. It'll make the covid lockdown look like a child's play! Plus, the military would be active within the US hunting these fighters down and everyone would be freaking out for months. Things would be a huge mess.

I can almost see this playing out clear as day in my head. I've been wrong before, hopefully I am wrong again this time.

[Ravenlocke]

Text:
Video footage shows Israeli forces shooting four surrendering Palestinians in the back, after which they placed weapons next to the unarmed bodies for a staged victory shot.

In the published video, at the moment of their attempt to surrender, the Palestinians are unarmed. However, in the photos taken after the shooting, each of them miraculously appears to have a rifle in their hands.

It's worth noting that the video was published by an official Israeli military media outlet.


https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1711851795683930174

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/ArthurM40330824/status...23964069753310

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/georgegalloway/status/1711849010427027488

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/MaimunkaNews/status/1711792549537398834

https://x.com/ArthurM40330824/status...54741079089583

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1711825879654171134

https://x.com/dana916/status/1711849399331037584

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/MaimunkaNews/status/1711649898871845131