Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

[norman]

Martin Armstrong warns: Terror attack on Israel a joint intelligence operation to draw RUSSIA into World War III
Health Ranger Report

Martin Armstrong is a mixed bag. He has great knowledge of economic and sociopolitical dynamics, but has silly blind spots to make any self respecting conspiracy theorists cringe. Or, maybe, he talks the right talk to stay alive and afloat.

https://www.brighteon.com/2ad19673-9...5-4e21f32e1fc6

Source: https://www.brighteon.com/embed/2ad19673-955c-4644-8e35-4e21f32e1fc6

[gini]

In many of the interviews with survivers of the party near Gaza ( and a parent of kidnapped girl) i see them talking while crying without tears.. and some stating that Hamas did this because they hate Jews ,(not Israelies!)but the party was an international crowd and many non jews have been killed & kidnapped (and this could have the effect to get many more countries involved.).,i dont know why , but some parts looks like done with crisisactors,.

[ExomatrixTV]

• Russia Has The Solution To Gaza Crisis! – Norman Finkelstein:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=kZfgEHclL98

In response to this past weekend’s deadly attacks on Israel by militants from Gaza, Russia has released a statement calling for an end to violence and for the conflict to be resolved on the basis of international law. The proposed resolution would entail a return to the 1967 borders and a two-state solution.

Guest host Craig Jardula and Kurt Metzger talk to professor and author Norman Finkelstein about the Russian offering and why it’s far more productive than the kind of boilerplate “We stand with Israel” palaver coming from the likes of EU President Ursula von der Leyen.

[ExomatrixTV]

[shaberon]

Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
Russia is the pole of a multipolar world. Islam is the pole of a multipolar world. Both poles oppose the West's desperate attempts to save unipolarism and its global dominance at any cost, even at the cost of a world war.

This.

Or, since Islam spans countries, then you can say Islam and Christianity are these two poles, the latter consisting primarily of Russia, Greece, Serbia.

[shaberon]

Posted by Vicus (here)
“Who do you think you are? You’re unelected, and have no authority to determine EU foreign policy, which is set by @EUCouncil,” replied Irish MEP Clare Daly. “Europe does NOT ‘stand with Israel’. We stand for peace. You do not speak for us. If you’ve nothing constructive to say, and you clearly don't, shut up.”

The danger of Europe’s unelected Queen Ursula unilaterally launching hypersonic virtue signaling missiles in a knee-jerk emotional response is that it can’t possibly substitute for foreign policy decided in more sobering moments. Yet these days, more often than not, it’s the only kind of foreign policy we get, on everything from Israel to Ukraine.

"These days" as of the 1600s.

Yeah, no...it literally has no allies, does it? No one?? Must not be. A Defense Treaty would have to pass the hands of elected authorities. Pfft. No, it has the catered devotion of unelected death merchants.

[pueblo]

I had not heard of the Samson Option before. Maniacal delusion are the only words that come to mind...

Some have written about the "Samson Option" as a retaliation strategy. In 2002, the Los Angeles Times published an opinion piece by Louisiana State University professor David Perlmutter which the American Jewish author Ron Rosenbaum writes "goes so far as to justify" a Samson Option approach:[32]

Israel has been building nuclear weapons for 30 years. The Jews understand what passive and powerless acceptance of doom has meant for them in the past, and they have ensured against it. Masada was not an example to follow—it hurt the Romans not a whit, but Samson in Gaza? What would serve the Jew-hating world better in repayment for thousands of years of massacres but a Nuclear Winter. Or invite all those tut-tutting European statesmen and peace activists to join us in the ovens? For the first time in history, a people facing extermination while the world either cackles or looks away—unlike the Armenians, Tibetans, World War II European Jews or Rwandans—have the power to destroy the world. The ultimate justice?[33]

Rosenbaum writes in his 2012 book How the End Begins: The Road to a Nuclear World War III that, in his opinion, in the "aftermath of a second Holocaust", Israel could "bring down the pillars of the world (attack Moscow and European capitals for instance)" as well as the "holy places of Islam." He writes that "abandonment of proportionality is the essence" of the Samson Option.[dubious – discuss][34]

In 2003, a military historian, Martin van Creveld, thought that the Al-Aqsa Intifada then in progress threatened Israel's existence.[35] Van Creveld was quoted in David Hirst's The Gun and the Olive Branch (2003) as saying:

We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force. Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: 'Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.' I consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible. Our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.[36]

However, according to Brig. Gen. Yitzhak Yaakov, who was the mastermind behind the "Samson Option", it was unlikely Israel could have even targeted Europe, as Israel did not yet have other measures like bombs or missiles to carry the nuclear payload.[37]

In 2012, in response to Günter Grass's poem "Was gesagt werden muss" ("What Must Be Said") which criticized Israel's nuclear weapons program, Israeli poet and Holocaust survivor Itamar Yaoz-Kest published a poem entitled "The Right to Exist: a Poem-Letter to the German Author" which addresses Grass by name. It contains the line: "If you force us yet again to descend from the face of the Earth to the depths of the Earth—let the Earth roll toward the Nothingness." Jerusalem Post journalist Gil Ronen saw this poem as referring to the Samson Option, which he described as the strategy of using Israel's nuclear weapons, "taking out Israel's enemies with it, possibly causing irreparable damage to the entire world."[38]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

[norman]

In 2015, Kerry Cassidy interviewed Kameran Faily. He claimed to be a member of a family that has helped settle middle eastern disputes for generations and is now himself involved in the black screens end of world banking and as such is quite privy to the real stuff of world power shenanigans, including an awareness of the off-world element.

The entire interview was very long and a tough listen. Here's a very short snippet from near the end when he passed on a warning to anyone who might consider using nuclear weapons.

Audio mp3
KAMERAN FAILY - 2015 - The NAZIs and the Nuke warning 5 minutes 14 seconds


For anyone interested in a much fuller brief on the real power politics of the middle east, as of 2015, here's an edited and cleaned up chunk of the interview that goes very deeply into who's who in the middle east and the real story of the Iran deal that Trump so emphatically protests. It's very different from the media story but fits it.

Audio mp3
KAMERAN FAILY INTERVIEW III 1 hour 53 minutes

[Andre]

Posted by Tintin (here)
What's most unnerving here, from a relatively neutral observation, is how in the heck one of the most vaunted and lauded intelligence agencies on the planet managed to miss this. Or did they allow this to happen?

I think the answer to that question is very obvious.

[shaberon]

Posted by norman (here)
Prince Domenico Napoleone Orsini is an owner of the Israeli Mafia, Ursino Ndrangheta mafia clan, Cleveland crime family and a top overseer of the Rosicrucian Order.

Interesting.

About as Guelph as could be.

If you make it to the end of their blurb in Britannica:


From the 16th century it became regular for an Orsini to hold the office of prince assistant to the pontifical throne.


There is such a thing:

The Orsini family held the title from 1735 to 1958.


However the office and title were suppressed in 1968.

It is folded into the Papal Household and the word "prince" has been removed.

Wrist-slashing incident about them in Time 1958.

It is not easy to see who actually is Assistant to the Papal Throne now. The office, itself, is not the top one, nor does it carry any authority. It positions you as the interface between Popes and Heads of State.

What that means outside of a formal, ceremonial procedure is unclear.




It came up not too long ago in a Vatican post:


A step further into the "Vatican Assassins" mythos claims a Gray Pope of the powerful Orsini family. John Perkins's sources were mostly a few boxes of Executive Intelligence Review (LaRouche):



Pepe Orsini of the Roman Maximus Clan.



Okay so Perkins fluffed up EIR a little bit. He is then copied to an article called Vatican Zoroastrianism:

He is the Grey Pope and is the King of the Holy Roman Papal Bloodlines. Above the Rothschilds and Rockefellers but in line and of equal stature to the Breakspear, Aldobrandini, and other Papal Bloodlines...

Knight of Malta, Tom Cruise donates to the Optimum Population Trust of Manchester, England. He and his father are major depopulationists. Both are tied to the Papal bloodline Orsini family a most powerful family in complete control of the conspiracy. Pepe Orsini is the grey Pope working with his Black Pope in his Society Of Jesus.



The Orsini (Maximus/Orso) family are the Zoroastrianist shadow hierarchy of the Jesuit Order.

The "Illuminati" is only one of the six current heads that make up "the Beast" and there is a head to that beast... a woman who rides that beast, the evil Queen Hephzibah (the matriarch who is said to be the reincarnation of Semaramis).



You will never read any article about her, she is a Nephilim hybrid; a great granddaughter of Lucifer himself, and she is the Mother of the Anti-Christ, and the queen, the Pindar, and others are all afraid of her.


All controlled through the Jesuit Order and their Knights of Malta & Teutonic Knights all based in missile protected Borgo Santo Spirito in Rome.

Pepe Orsini - Italy

Henry Breakspear - Macau, China

This is the true power finally.

This is the Guelph and the Ghibelline power over mankind.

The Cecil family were controlled by the powerful Jesuit family known as the Pallavicini.

Maria Camilla Pallavicini is far more powerful than Queen Elizabeth II.

The Queen and Prince Philip are totally subordinate to the Papal Bloodline the Breakspear Family and their Jesuit UKHQ at 114 Mount Street.

Please go and study who funded Elizabeth I that astronomical amount of money to fight the Spanish, yes Pallavicini.

The most powerful man right now in the conspiracy over this World is a Roman by the name of PEPE ORSINI of the powerful Roman Papal Bloodline the Orsini also known as Orso and the ancient Maximus family.

There is no one more powerful than this figure who is really the Grey Pope.

Those are his grandstanding claims.

I would say it rings extraordinarily true in character, but there is not exactly a lot of other information to pursue about this. Well, surprisingly, to me, about the modern version.

The strange interlinking of Jesuitry and London, yes, that has a lot to do with everything, and we can trace it.

All this about power--what does he mean???

This guy's personal full name has been used three times since the 1300s or something, they do not depend on the Jesuits. It may, instead, be possible that the early Society of Jesus received grants from the Orsinis.

I do not think the Mazzinist Felice Orsini is closely related, having attempted to assassinate Napoleon III right after publication of the first terrorist manual, Propaganda of the Deed. Mazzini definitely collaborated with Lord Palmerston, Urquhart, and Napoleon III. Not with Albert Pike, that is spurious.


We can do large amounts of historical details, but on the modern guy it is hard to say anything other than he is a rich Catholic.

Perkins's argument is to some extent un-falsifiable, just as it is un-verifiable. I don't think you can just tag "Lucifer" as a family member.

It obviously is not a new or mysterious idea that the Orsinis have this long hereditary chain, but unless we know what someone said or did, or what might make their word stronger than that of popes and kings, it ought to be taken with a grain of salt. The Jesuits became as powerful as kings, and they were disbanded as a consequence. Temporarily at least. Then the kings were disbanded.

Do papal agencies collectively have much to do with repeated atrocities in Ukraine, which, subsequently became the source of human cattle for Israel, yes. England had not much effect there in the 1600s but the Pope did. The word "pogrom" entered the English language mostly due to events there.

And so, roughly, the two main factions Perkins refers to are something like Papal and Germanic, on the continent, which from a period of torture figures out how to share an office in London. This one likes Ukraine and Zion. Such a foreign policy is then dictated to the United States.



Gaza isn't exactly anything, it has been built and erased many times, constantly taken over by empires, had cooperation and conflict between every kind of religion, and presses the back end of recorded history:



The site was inhabited between 3300 and 2400/2350 BCE, and covered over 5 hectares.

The only other Egyptian settlement in this area that was older than es-Sakan was Taur Ikhbeineh. The occupation there started in 3500 BC and ended in 3200 BC, while es-Sakan was still flourishing.


It participates in the end of major civilizations at the Meghalayan Age:


Gaza enjoyed demographic and economic growth again when the local Canaanite population began to resettle Tell as-Sakan around 2500, but in 2250, the area experienced a total collapse of civilization and all of the cities in the Gaza region were abandoned by the 23rd century BCE. In its place emerged semi-nomadic cultures with pastoral camps made up of rustic family dwellings which continued to exist throughout the Early Bronze Age IV.

A caravan point of strategic importance from the earliest times, it was constantly involved in the wars between Egypt and Syria and the Mesopotamian powers.



It is not part of any country, it has become a liability no one wants. It perhaps would be less troublesome without the presence of Zion interfering with the ability of native Palestinians to figure it out. Empires at least used it for prosperity.

[Tintin]

Posted by Andre (here)

Posted by Tintin (here)
What's most unnerving here, from a relatively neutral observation, is how in the heck one of the most vaunted and lauded intelligence agencies on the planet managed to miss this. Or did they allow this to happen?

I think the answer to that question is very obvious.

Yes

At the time I wrote that I wasn't leaping to conclusions based on previous episodes of malfeasance at the hands of those we're accustomed to organising these things although it was also partially rhetorical.

300 posts later (over 5 days) it's more or less a given that there was collusion, indeed.

And let us never forget that British intelligence (MI6) have their fingerprints all over nearly all these types of events. Maybe not so obviously this last Sabbath episode but as we know the foundation of the Israeli state is a construct of British-based Zionists.

Balfour declaration:

[gord]

This is a pretty interesting article from the website of Peter Gerard Myers dated Oct. 12, 2023, and entitled "Foolish Hamas ­they fell into a Mossad trap, and forfeited the moral high ground"

It's fairly long, and I don't have the energy to copy / paste all of it and ensure it looks nice too, so I'll just put the link, Peter's copyright notice, the table of contents, and a quote from Victor Ostrovsky's 2nd book included in the article.

I am not myself well enough informed to make any sense of anything, so I'm really just tossing more info in here. The rest of the website is quite interesting as well.

https://mailstar.net/foolish-Hamas.html

Copyright: Peter Myers asserts the right to be identified as the author of the material written by him on this website, being material that is not otherwise attributed to another author.

(0) Foolish Hamas­they fell into a Mossad trap, and forfeited the moral high ground
(1) Ari Ben-Menashe on Mossad posing as "Palestinian Terrorists"
(2) Mossad preferred Hamas to PLO ­ Victor Ostrovsky, former Mossad officer
(3) Hamas forfeited the moral high ground
(4) Netanyahu ignored repeated warnings from Egyptian intelligence
(5) Orchestrated by Netanyahu?
(6) Economist Intelligence Failure
(7) Did Mossad let it happen? Philip Giraldi and Prof Michel Chossudovsky
(8) No, the Hamas Invasion Was Not an Israeli 'Intelligence Failure'
(9) Netanyahu Gets His War
(10) Israel has secretly been supplying weapons to Ukraine

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(2) The Mossad realized that it had to come up with a new threat to the region, a threat of such magnitude that it would justify whatever action the Mossad might see fit to take.

The right-wing elements in the Mossad (and in the whole country, for that matter) had what they regarded as a sound philosophy: They believed (correctly, as it happened) that Israel was the strongest military presence in the Middle East. In fact, they believed that the military might of what had become known as "fortress Israel" was greater than that of all of the Arab armies combined, and was responsible for whatever security Israel possessed. The right wing believed then - and they still believe - that this strength arises from the need to answer the constant threat of war.

The corollary belief was that peace overtures would inevitably start a process of corrosion that would weaken the military and eventually bring about the demise of the state of Israel, since, the philosophy goes, its Arab neighbors are untrustworthy, and no treaty signed by them is worth the paper it's written on.

Supporting the radical elements of Muslim fundamentalism sat well with the Mossad’s general plan for the region. An Arab world run by fundamentalists would not be a party to any negotiations with the West, thus leaving Israel again as the only democratic, rational country in the region. And if the Mossad could arrange for the Hamas (Palestinian fundamentalists) to take over the Palestinian streets from the PLO, then the picture would be complete.

—Victor Ostrovsky, The Other Side of Deception (Harper Collins Publishers, New York 1994) – pg. 197

[Tintin]

Irish MEPs Clare Daly and Mick Wallace two of maybe only a dozen or so sane voices in the European Parliament drafted a statement in response to the "solemn moment" at the parliament yesterday. The thread itself is worth perusing.

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Text:

Statement on today's unconscionable "solemn moment" outside the European Parliament, during which MEPs and the leaders of the EU institutions appeared to give unconditional support to Israel even as it flattens Gaza and massacres innocent civilians.

Source: Clare Daly on Twitter/X

[Tintin]

Scott Ritter with Judge Andrew Napolitano recorded yesterday, Wednesday, October 11th

Title: Origins of Hamas/Israeli Conflict w/ Scott Ritter

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Xs7cQQ5vnf4

[Bill Ryan]

Thanks for everyone for their reporting on this situation, which makes it very easy to keep track of the tsunami of news and updates from other sources. A few comments below:

Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
https://x.com/mazzenilsson/status/1712216788291698988

This is the kind of thing that Tulsi (and many others!) should have said.

Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
https://x.com/Ali7861216216/status/1712203141209313456

This surprised me... I had no idea there'd be that kind of support coming from South Korea. I do suspect that there's widespread (but maybe sometimes quiet) support for the historical Palestinian cause in many parts of the world.

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)

A reminder to all (again!) that this is a false, invented, story which has now been retracted.

[shaberon]

Posted by shaberon (here)
We can do large amounts of historical details, but on the modern guy it is hard to say anything other than he is a rich Catholic.

Missed something here.


This is from a site for avid scribes of Royalty:


He is married to Martine Bernheim (daughter of banker Antoine Bernheim and previously widow of François-Abraham-Michel Mayer); they are parents of two daughters, Donna Leontia and Donna Cajetana.


...aaaaaand:


57th International Violin Competition "Premio Paganini"

Genoa, 16 - 27 October 2023

...honorary president of the charity foundation dedicated to her brother, the historian and economist Pierre-Antoine Bernheim. She married to Prince Domenico Orsini, she lives in Rome.

41 pictures of her at home.

Oh, excuse me. "Princess".

I am able to accept that these are actual people and they are not poor.


Ok. Bankers are extraordinarily boring. When we see endowment to brother's legacy, that, perhaps, might give us some of the ideology taking place there in Gray Pope land.

Because these people live in Europe, we have to take information from France, which may be easy to remember because it smells quite Frankist:


...en particulier spécialiste du judaïsme et du christianisme ancien ainsi que des études néotestamentaires.

Petit-fils de l'ingénieur et avocat Léonce Bernheim (1886-1944), mort à Auschwitz...

Banquier associé à la banque Lazard, dont il assure – sans entrain – la vice-présidence du siège londonien...

Bernheim est membre de la Society of Biblical Literature...[founded in America 1890 par un théologien protestant, historien des religions et bibliste d'origine suisse formé en Allemagne. Ecumenical --> inter-faith, non-denominational]


...il publie notamment les travaux d'Étienne Trocmé sur L’Enfance du christianisme, de Maurice-Ruben Hayoun pour Le Zohar, aux origines de la mystique juive...


also trifling with:

Jacques, frère de Jésus [James founded the religion of Jerusalem which is Orthodoxy]


...et travaille à une biographie de Paul de Tarse...


According to Marcion, Paul should not have any biography. Only a few Epistles. This is of course a non-Christian view which would dismantle the church at once, unveiling layers of fraud.

The fund since this brother's passing consists of a yearly award to a Bible exegete.

This sounds somewhere between Jewish Christianity and the Religion of No Religion. Which is a bit of a Jesuit survival strategy. Not hardcore Catholicism pushing. This mixed bag which happens to hold several fundamental distortions.

That is some kind of "Catholic Zionism" like Biden isn't it??

Doesn't Catholicism more or less condemn the Jews??

They may be rich, but everything they have is a House of Cards.

[Tintin]

A useful document and neuro-linguistic primer - 116 pages - to aid in deconstructing, and parsing the inevitable continuing deluge of PR to which we will be subject (again) over however many more days, weeks, months....

A snippet:

- (4) “If… If… If… Then.” You cannot simply beat Hamas like a piñata and hope to win the overall message battle. Calling Hamas the terrorists they are doesn’t build Israel’s credibility; it just reduces theirs. And Israel’s credibility needs work. Supporters of Israel must always ultimately offer a positive approach with a negative condemnation. That said, there is a way to do both at the same time: by using ifs.

- page 35

The Israel Project's 2009 Global Language Dictionary

Source: https://www.transcend.org/tms/wp-con...dictionary.pdf

[Bill Ryan]

I've just posted this on the Third Secret of Fatima thread, but I do think it also belongs here.

Xavier Ayral, a very articulate and easy-to-listen-to Frenchman who now lives in the US, is a devout Catholic with not only a strong interest in the prophecies from the many Marian apparitions, but also has a very accurate and grounded understanding of both history and modern geopolitics — and is not fooled by anything. I've come to very much value and appreciate his thoughts and insights.

Israel’s Fate, Catholic Prophecy, and the Start of World War 3

https://rumble.com/v3olfva-israels-fate-catholic-prophecy-and-the-start-of-world-war-3.html

Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/v3m01wg

[Tintin]

SATIRE ALERT!

UPDATE: this is I think satire actually, and kinda felt like it.

"Try and look nice and scared.."

"Can you boost the volume on those explosions?"

"We can't show the earlier bit cos we want people to think you're in danger."

- studio producer tells "international correspondent" Clarissa Ward, who is miles away from where bombs are falling.

- dear oh dear...

[Ewan]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)

A reminder to all (again!) that this is a false, invented, story which has now been retracted.

What was it? (Just a blank post for me).
I assume the 'beheaded babies (might as well of added incubators in there at same time)' story?

From Bill:
Yes, that was the one.