Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

[grapevine]

Posted by Kryztian (here)
A superb video by Abby Martin made seven years ago but has yet to be posted to the forum. It packs a lot of history into 22 minutes.

I have yet to use the words "ethnic cleansing" to describe the way the Palestinians have been treated by Zionists in the last nine decades, but after watching this video, it should seems like a fair and descriptive term for what has been happening, at least in the 1930s and 1940s.

Thanks Kryztian - the video is excellent. Did you notice the part where Abby Martin narrated "The early zionists promised to make Palestine a "vanguard against barbarism". Coincidental or what?

[shaberon]

Posted by Michel Leclerc (here)
White phosphorus (phôs-phoros = Luci-fer) has already started raining down on the Palestinian leftovers.

Fortunately, this meant the Evening Star for, pretty much the whole course of Greek speech, until the advent of the periodic table. Unless I am mistaken, the bombs are not actually filled with pieces of Venus.

"Primitive" man probably could not have used the stuff. You all are aware that Phosphorous exposed to air will combust, just like Sodium?

Greek Fire, now there was a history-changing military upgrade. Willie Pete has not done much but inflict casualties.


From the PM of Malaysia:

“I said that we, as a policy, have a relationship with Hamas from before, and this will continue.”



The most likely copycat scenario is well underway by that seller of her soul, India:

The Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), which is the ideological parent organization of India’s ruling party BJP, has been accused in India of fueling anti-Muslim violence.

Many human rights activists have even drawn parallels between “Hindutva and Zionism.”

It was in 1992 that India and Israel normalized relations, but after the BJP government took over in 2014, Modi became the first Indian Prime Minister to visit the occupied territories, a departure from the policy pursued by his predecessors since 1948.

“With the rise of the BJP to power, things have definitely changed as the two countries have now stronger relations,” Rahman said. “There’s a personal bond between Modi and Netanyahu, and both sides are also doing that.”

“India under Modi found itself attracted to Israel, which “tackled” the (Muslim) Palestinians the way Hindutva fanatics would like to tackle the Muslims of India,” he remarked.

Zionism and Hindutva

In India, Islamophobia has become a serious issue in recent years, fanned by the Hindutva ideology that lies at the heart of the policies pursued by the incumbent BJP government,

The Hindu nationalist government in New Delhi seeks to establish a Hindu-dominated nation and marginalize religious minorities, especially Muslims, who have witnessed a surge in hate speech perpetuated by Hindu extremist groups in recent years.

The unrelenting calls for genocide against minority Muslims by BJP leaders, and other right-wing forces, have exposed the grave threat that Islamophobia poses to India’s social fabric.

According to Khan, Hindutva and the Zionist ideologies go together, as the binding factor for both is animosity towards Islam and Muslims.

“BJP and Hindutva suffer from strong Islamophobia, and any country or power they perceive as “anti-Muslim” is automatically their great friend. Both Modi and Netanyahu share a disdain for Muslims and Islam, and this is a key reason for their bonhomie,” Khan told the Press TV website.

“They (Hindutva supporters) look at Israel in great admiration, for it has subdued a “Muslim” nation. Hindutva wants to replicate the same model in India, though the situation in India is totally different from what prevails in the occupied territories.”

New Delhi is today the biggest and most dependable purchaser of Israeli-made weapons, spending in excess of $ 1 billion per year, according to weapons monitors.

India was not always a supporter of the Israeli regime. It opposed the creation of Israel and backed the rights of Palestinian refugees displaced by the 1948 Arab-Israeli War.

The first prime minister of India, Jawaharlal Nehru, and the country’s independence leader Mahatma Gandhi, had both expressed their sympathy for the plight of the Palestinians.

“The time has changed (for India), the time Nehru was there, was a different time. During the Janta Party period, then-foreign minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee (former Prime Minister and a senior leader of the BJP) had very clearly stated that "Israel will have to vacate the land occupied by the Arabs," Rahman said while referring to Vajpayee’s 1977 speech.

Israel is a pebble that could be tossed away in a matter of hours.

Pakistan is fairly large with a nuclear arsenal.

I do not think India will do much to China over a few miles of border in a mountainous desert, but what may happen to Pakis or Muslims in general is under a lot of suspicion right now.

[gini]

Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video//gL4KG5KPRPPk/
. -45 min--14/10/23--Max Igan perspective on all the signs of a false flag operation & exposing the many obvious lies..

[John Hilton]

Ben Fulford Report on the Israel situation, Tue, Oct 16, 2023

As always, take this with a large pinch of salt. Some of it is undoubtedly true. Use your discernment.

First, the partial report which will be complete on Thursday:
https://stillnessinthestorm.com/2023...-to-get-money/

The complete report in German (you can use a translator plugin):

https://liebe-das-ganze.blogspot.com...ht-vom-16.html

The complete report in English, minus some images and videos (PDF):

https://files.catbox.moe/fbp040.pdf

The originating site: https://benjaminfulford.net

[shaberon]

Egad.


Ben has gone beyond the beyond.

Now it is satan Satan satan all over the page.

This is a sure sign that someone is clueless.

For this Holy Devil, at least we get a corroborating link.

Picture on Christians for Truth is not a 2,000 year old artifact.

But...that site at least does have a corroborating link...

...to an inside source, RT:


Police in Turkey have reportedly seized an ancient leather-bound bible during a routine traffic stop in the country's central province of Nigde on Saturday.

Though it is not known exactly how old the bible is at this point, early reports indicate that it has ‘historical value.’ The manuscript is written on leather with pictures showing what appear to be figures associated with Christianity.


The origin of the bible is also still a mystery, however, the smuggling of historical artifacts into Turkey from neighboring war-torn Syria has reportedly increased significantly since the civil war broke out over seven years ago.








It's a freaking Bible. Then he quotes Acts 7:43. The Book of Acts is freaking fiction. There's some Christian truth.

Plain truth is an inverted 2018 RT article...should have erased that one, it took me about ten seconds to figure this out.

He goes on to suggest some of the highest-ranking pseudo-Christian frauds:



Read John Robison’s 1798 book Proofs Of A Conspiracy (PDF here) for more information on how the judeo-masonic conspiracy was first revealed to the world.

And then 100 years later, that conspiracy was confirmed when the Protocols Of The Learned Elders Of Zion were leaked, which is well documented in the essential book Waters Flowing Eastward by L. Fry (aka Paquita de Shishmareff).



There is so much fascist paranoia in that article I could not continue to see if there was anything useful he said.

What will it take for this debris to lose its value?

It has intellectual value, in the sense that so many wrong points can be easily refuted, and the culprit at the end of the tunnel is not Khazarian Mafia, but plain old Judeo-Christianity.

Misdirection. Works the same way I do. Such as:


I have been accused hundreds if not thousands of times for things which I never did.

I have never been accused of the things I actually did.



Fortunately, the wrongs I committed were without victims and never hurt anybody. The Jews of Satan are nothing and powerless without the English Bible, which I might rank as the most dangerous book in history. It has greater reach than the Latin one.



As a suggestion, for someone with formerly Twitter/X, I would recommend bringing in posts from SyrianPerspective.

Ten years ago, it was a high quality blog comparable to The Saker, and I probably learned more about Syria from this one person than from the entire world combined. But as far as I know, the original website is gone, and now just a series of posts on that platform. SyrianGirlPartisan is also very apt, but this one is, in a sense, bigger and more comprehensive, and certainly unfriendly towards Muslim Brotherhood, which as many of you know is the complication between Hamas and some neighboring states.

As for the notion of "control", let me point out that we have just seen multiple African countries take training and funding from the U. S., and wake up one day and overthrow the Americans.

I don't claim to know what Hamas is "really up to", but I do know that you won't get thousands of people to commit an armed invasion without a good reason, which I suspect would be other than "Netanyahu said so". It might actually be resistance.


Protest in Mumbai, India consists of one person.






One hour ago:


In a recent interview with the Islamic Republic News Agency (IRNA), Iran’s Foreign Minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian stated that a preemptive strike against ‘Israel’ is still a possibility in the coming hours. The statement comes after Abdollahian held meetings with top regional and international officials.



Ready to find out what it means?

[Agape]

Evolution of human consciousness is inevitable owing to the opportunity of internet connectedness and rising literacy quotient exponentially ,

let’s observe that average human intelligence is rising together with expanding global awareness at the same time edging with reimaginations of AI ,
futuristic visions and technologies , enhancing mental skills in search for new pathways and solutions.

Zooming on the evolution of human religiosity and spirituality over centuries, and millennia , it is now finally clear again that everything: every faith, every mental faculty, every ritual , language and prayer, every robe and metaphor and symbol is a state of Art that transforms and evolves ,
alongside human psycho-spiritual , ethical - moral , social and other kinds of tribal evolution towards ...

the Law of One

the 10-12-72-722 or any number of Guarding Principles

and kindness to Life in its countless forms

—————

There’s a glimmer of Hope , in my opinion

that human collective - archaic and futuristic blended with reality present super consciousness achieves the understanding of itself

as One Unit , working under the same guarding principles
and accelerating its/their evolution knowingly,
consciously towards the Law of One

earlier than they would take
wrong or deceitful path to self destruction.

We can not live without evolution , the right to study and evolve our minds on all levels including the one level who is part of Universal Intelligence who birthed or created us , taken care of us when the world has failed
and granted us every ability to learn ,
move ahead towards its wonders.

We are now choosing between ..

adherence to One which is Truth

and

“No truth at all” which is agnostic logical glitch some pundits can not get logically err over


So hope we all , choose wisely





That said , if some readers do not understand me now there’s always a chance that they will get to the same point tomorrow.


So sorry we are not there yet

🙏✨🌈

[PathWalker]

Many Israeli internal political indications the US is governing and controlling the Israeli strategy. Allowing Israeli army to control the tactics.

So much for Arab solidarity with the "beloved - destructive" Palestinians.
https://english.ahram.org.eg/News/510378.aspx

AP , Tuesday 17 Oct 2023
King Abdullah II of Jordan has said at a meeting with German Chancellor OIaf Scholz in Berlin that neither Jordan nor Egypt would be willing to take in any Palestinian refugees.

One would wonder why ?

If you want to understand what is going in Israel. You need to study and experience Arab culture.
Good luck with Modern/Western moral values in Belgium as well (un-related to the middle east of course).

[norman]

Posted by shaberon (here)

I wonder where the original Palestinian 'jews' went to. I sometimes consider a possibility that those of them who were not migrated away or taken as slaves and redistributed worldwide may actually have interbred with Arabs locally and their descended genetics are among the 'Palestinians' the Khazarian impostor 'jews' have got packed into ghettos for extermination. After all, if you are intent on stealing, wholesale, the identity and 'inheritance' of a whole race of people, you will eventually have to eliminate that race, even if it's genetics are now mixed.

[Agape]

Test . Yes from what I have understood from live people who have been through the Israeli military duty in young age of 19 or earlier,

the army training is programmed , the programming comes from the US originally
and it leaves very little own space or space for mistakes.

So even as a commander, suppose you would decide to “do the mistake” and stop the war the thousand people behind you will seamlessly continue in action , like avatars in computer game.

So say my friends who have been “there”. I think it’s ok to say.


🐳

[norman]

President Biden to visit Israel on Wednesday: Sec. Blinken

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=VXGjH9tHM9E

BUT

https://t.me/HammerTimeQNews/20411

[Tintin]

Clare Daly - turn the volume up

[Apulu]

Posted by gini (here)

Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video//gL4KG5KPRPPk/
. -45 min--14/10/23--Max Igan perspective on all the signs of a false flag operation & exposing the many obvious lies..

I like Max but I find it bizarre and irresponsible for him to say with absolute certainty that Gaza is about to be wiped out, with every man, woman and child left there killed by the Israeli army. What the HELL is he talking about? That would certainly decide what the world changing event being predicted actually is, for sure... But what the hell?

Not even Israel is that stupid or war hungry. Am I wrong to not consider this a possibility? I don't think there's the slightest chance that's about to happen. If I'm right, Max's incredible hyperbole does absolutely no one any favours. If I'm wrong, and he's right, the world as we have known it is apparently over.

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by Apulu (here)

Posted by gini (here)

Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video//gL4KG5KPRPPk/
. -45 min--14/10/23--Max Igan perspective on all the signs of a false flag operation & exposing the many obvious lies..

I like Max but I find it bizarre and irresponsible for him to say with absolute certainty that Gaza is about to be wiped out, with every man, woman and child left there killed by the Israeli army. What the HELL is he talking about? That would certainly decide what the world changing event being predicted actually is, for sure... But what the hell?

Not even Israel is that stupid or war hungry. Am I wrong to not consider this a possibility? I don't think there's the slightest chance that's about to happen. If I'm right, Max's incredible hyperbole does absolutely no one any favours. If I'm wrong, and he's right, the world as we have known it is apparently over.

He's an idiot for saying these things.

Israel has already succeeded for the most part to get about a million Palestinians to move out of the direct line of fire.

There's more of a possibility of Biden loading all of these people up on these two carrier fleet ships, other ships, multiple airlines, and bringing them back to the US and giving them free cell phones, health insurance, monthly checks, and sending them to any US city of their choice. A free ride to the US and asylum is way more of a probable outcome than Israel killing every last one of them.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Hamas attacked civilians directly.
Killing hundreds of citizens.
gunned down in their homes
in their cars
while dancing
while klinging to their children
hundreds taken back to Gaza as human shields

The Gazans chose their lot.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
Hamas attacked civilians directly.
Killing hundreds of citizens.
gunned down in their homes
in their cars
while dancing
while klinging to their children
hundreds taken back to Gaza as human shields

The Gazans chose their lot.

Well, one issue is that most of the Gazans had no idea Hamas was going to do this, and had they known they might well not have approved. Most Palestinians living there are just like you and me.

[Bill Ryan]

An interesting heads-up today from The Moon of Alabama.

As a personal comment, I think it has to be noted that Biden needs a new war, seeing as the proxy war with Russia is lost, and the planned war with China (if it happens) won't be till 2025 or later.

• https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/1...yria.html#more

U.S. Deploys Large Force - Eyes on Syria

The U.S. has recently moved way too many troops to the Middle East to be of peaceful purpose or to simply deter others from action.

Who does it intend to fight?

Arms Airlift to Israel, Bombers in Jordan, Two Carriers: U.S. Deploying More Forces to Mideast - Haaretz

Last week, the United States deployed the aircraft carrier Gerald R. Ford and its strike group to the eastern Mediterranean. The USS Ford carries about 80 combat aircraft, electronic warfare and intelligence planes. It is accompanied by five advanced missile-guided ships, armed with Tomahawk cruise missiles capable of hitting targets inside Iran. According to satellite images, the USS Ford is about 180 kilometers south-west of Cyprus. P-8 maritime reconnaissance aircraft with anti-submarine, anti-ship capabilities are patrolling around the group.
...
Over the weekend, a second carrier strike group, led by the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower, was dispatched to the Eastern Mediterranean and is due to arrive later this month.

Each carrier strike group also includes one or two submarines. Next to various support planes each carrier has a 'wing' of fighter planes consisting of four squadrons with 12 fighter jets each.

There is more ...

Since the Hamas attack on October 7, the U.S. has dispatched a large number of jets to the Middle East in order to “bolster the U.S. defense posture,” as the U.S Central Command has put it. A squadron of U.S. F-15E Strike Eagle bombers based in Britain was deployed over the weekend at the Muwaffaq Salti Air Base east of the Jordanian capital of Amman. Another squadron of A-10 attack aircraft has also been deployed there.
An impressive airlift to Israel should be added to this list. According to online aviation tracking websites, at least 11 U.S. C-17 heavy-transport aircraft landed over the past 10 days at Israel's Ben Gurion airport and Israeli Air Force’s Nevatim base.
...
In addition to fighter and transport aircraft, two Rivet Joint reconnaissance aircraft belonging to the U.S. and British air forces have been operating off the coast of Israel in recent days.

Each regular Air-Force squadron has 24 fighter planes.

That's not all yet ...

Amichai Stein @AmichaiStein1 - 15:39 UTC · Oct 16, 2023 WSJ: US military has selected roughly 2,000 troops to prepare for a potential deployment to support Israel in missions like advising and medical support. They aren't intended to serve in a combat role and no infantry have been put on prepare-to-deploy order.

The above troops are probably not really relevant unless they come under fire and get killed. But the following ones are real combat ground forces and not just support:

OSINTdefender @sentdefender - 15:59 UTC · Oct 16, 2023
According to multiple U.S. Defense Officials, the the Bataan Amphibious-Ready Group consisting of the USS Bataan (LHD-5) and USS Carter Hall (LSD-50) as well as roughly 2,500 Marines with the 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit are now en-route towards the Eastern Mediterranean from the Arabian Sea, where she will link back up with the USS Mesa Verde (LPD-19) who has Finished her “Mid-Deployment Repair Period” in Spain early and is already steaming across the Mediterranean.

There are also several thousand U.S. troops in Iraq and Syria and on several bases in Turkey and in various Gulf countries.

I agree with Will Schryver:

Will Schryver @imetatronink - 17:10 UTC · Oct 16, 2023 So ... a large amphibious assault flotilla will join the two carrier battle groups assembling in the eastern Mediterranean. Many believe this is just "power-projection posturing". I find that explanation deficient.
This is a war fleet. And Hamas is NOT its target.

Hamas isn't the target.

On Sunday, in a stilted 60 Minutes interview, President Joe Biden pointed north:

Scott Pelley: Would you support Israeli occupation of Gaza at this point? President Biden: I think it'd be a big mistake. Look, what happened in Gaza, in my view, is Hamas and the extreme elements of Hamas don't represent all the Palestinian people. And I think that...It would be a mistake to...for Israel to occupy...Gaza again. We...but going in but taking out the extremists the Hezbollah is up north but Hamas down south. Is a necessary requirement.
...
Scott Pelley: And you believe Israel would pursue [the two state solution] that after what's occurred--
President Biden: Not now. Not now. Not now, but-- but I think Israel understands that a significant portion of Palestinian people do not share the views of Hamas and Hezbollah. Hezbollah is a powerful Islamist militia to Israel's north which is armed and trained by Iran. Iran also supports Hamas.
Scott Pelley: There's limited fighting already on the northern Israeli border, and I wonder what is your message to Hezbollah and its backer, Iran?
President Biden: Don't. Don't, don't, don't.
Scott Pelley: Don't come across the border? Don't escalate this war?
President Biden: That's right.

If attacked Hizbullah, with 100,000 missiles, would destroy Israel. I therefore do not believe that Hizbullah in Lebanon is the real operational target Biden has in mind.

Hizbullah can not be deterred from attacking Israel. If it wants and needs to it will inevitably do so, and do so successfully. It has hidden its forces and weapons either underground or within the population of Beirut and southern Lebanon. Bombing them does not make sense. There is also the fact that the last U.S. intervention in Lebanon infamously ended with lots of dead Marines and an embarrassing retreat from the country. I do not think that the U.S. wants to repeat that experience.

Iran, another potential target, is too difficult to attack. It can effectively retaliate over a large area causing huge damage to any U.S. installation in the Middle East. It could also hike oil prices at a time when the Biden administration is urgently trying to lower them.

That is why I believe that the real aim of this build-up is to finally 'regime change' Syria and to kick out the Russian forces who are there to support its government.

Israel Radar @IsraelRadar_com - 17:39 UTC · Oct 9, 2023 Israeli warning to Hezbollah: IDF will destroy Damascus, target Syrian President Assad if Hezbollah joins war; US warships will support Israel in war. Message relayed via France (@ynetalerts)

Israel Radar @IsraelRadar_com - Oct 9
IDF instructs Israelis to prepare for 3-day stay in bomb shelters/secure rooms, ensure supply of food, water, battery-run devices in case power is down. This is a clear indication of imminent escalation into larger war.

The recent Israeli bombing attacks on the airports of Aleppo and Damascus, disabling both of them, point into this direction.

The neo-conservative lunatics in the White House may well think that they now have a chance to eliminate Russia's presence in the Middle East.

They will think of this as a revenge for their loss of the the war in Ukraine. They also believe that it will prevent, or compensate for, their geopolitical defeat in Gaza.

Russia is undoubtedly prepared for that. Still, its contingent in Syria is too small. A combined attack by all U.S. forces in the area, more than 150 airplanes, would certainly defeat it.

The question then will be: "What's next?"

But I for one do not dare to answer it.

[Bill Ryan]

Maybe not a surprise, but disappointing nonetheless. This is now being reported in all media.

• https://opindia.com/2023/10/un-secur...rael-hamas-war

UN Security Council rejects Russian resolution calling for a ceasefire in Israel-Hamas war: USA and UK ask Russia to condemn Hamas first

The United Nations Security Council has rejected a Russian resolution calling for a humanitarian ceasefire of the conflict between Israel and Hamas as the draft did not get a minimum number of votes to be passed.

Russia had proposed a resolution calling for a humanitarian ceasefire in Gaza. The Russian-led draft resolution received five votes in favour – China, Gabon, Mozambique, Russia, and the United Arab Emirates.

Four nations – United Kingdom, United States, France and Japan on Monday voted against the draft resolution. France, US and UK voted against the resolution over its failure to condemn Hamas for its attacks on Israel.

(... the article continues)

~~~

And a summary:

https://t.me/CIG_telegram/37762

The text:

How the UN Security Council members voted on the Russian resolution:
• In favor: Russia, China, the United Arab Emirates, Gabon, and Mozambique.
• Against: The United States, the United Kingdom, France, and Japan.
• Abstained: Albania, Brazil, Ghana, Malta, Switzerland, and Ecuador.
The U.S. representative explained their country's choice by pointing out that the resolution did not condemn Hamas.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Excellent film by David Sorenson. (Stop world control)

The Mystery of Israel – SOLVED!

This film exposes something so nefarious, so evil, so mind-blowing that many will find it hard to believe. Yet it is true. The shocking secrets unveiled by this incredible documentary will shine a blazing light on those who have always been hiding behind the state of Israel. This film can deliver a fatal blow to the satanic elites, who want to establish a world government to enslave all of humanity.

Couldn’t embed video
Video here
https://stopworldcontrol.com/israel/

Eric J

[Sirus]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
Hamas attacked civilians directly.
Killing hundreds of citizens.
gunned down in their homes
in their cars
while dancing
while klinging to their children
hundreds taken back to Gaza as human shields

The Gazans chose their lot.

Well, one issue is that most of the Gazans had no idea Hamas was going to do this, and had they known they might well not have approved. Most Palestinians living there are just like you and me.

What's your view of 70% of Palestinians allegedly voting and supporting Hamas, Bill? I'm sure that we can apply nuance to the statistic but I'd be interested to know your thoughts?
Also worth noting that the Palestinian authority are said to still pay money to the families of any Hamas fighters killed.

[Dorjezigzag]