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    https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2...-southern-gaza

    ‘Beautiful solidarity’: Cooking for displaced Palestinians in southern Gaza

    The Abu Assi family is feeding thousands of Palestinians displaced since Israel’s bombing campaign began on October 7.

    Khan Younis, Gaza – On the pavement outside Jamil Abu Assi’s home in the southern Gaza town of Bani Suhaila east of Khan Younis, the 31-year-old and his cousins are busy cooking large cauldrons of food.

    Abu Assi once cooked home meals based on requests from people. But after an Israeli air raid destroyed his kitchen during the 2014 Israeli offensive on the Gaza Strip, he shifted gears.

    His family still cooks, but now specifically with the aim of helping those who have been displaced by Israel’s attacks and siege on Gaza. It’s a mission that’s being tested like never before.

    According to the United Nations, one million Palestinians in the Gaza Strip have been internally displaced since Israel began bombarding the territory on October 7. The blockaded enclave’s total population is 2.3 million. Many have moved to the south of the Strip following repeated warnings from the Israeli military to leave the north.

    Every day, the family cooks 2,000 meals that feed some of those who have arrived in Khan Younis, swelling the southern city’s population to more than half a million from about 220,000 in 2021.

    “I start my morning searching for wood because we do not have cooking gas,” he told Al Jazeera, referring to the complete blockade on fuel supplies to Gaza enforced by Israel since October 7. But some days, fetching wood is risky, he said, given the town’s proximity to the Israel border. On Sunday, the Palestinian armed group Hamas — which governs the Gaza Strip — said it had pushed back an attempted Israeli raid into the Khan Younis area, in which an Israeli soldier was killed.

    “I don’t want to put myself in danger,” Abu Assi said.

    ‘We try to do our part’

    Abu Assi and his cousins have divided up their roles to be more efficient. One person is tasked with chopping onions, another with adding ingredients and stirring the pot, and a third with wrapping and packaging the meals.

    Most of the meals include rice, lentils and freekeh, a cereal prepared by roasting green grain. Meat was previously a staple, but is now harder to get as many butchers have closed their shops after being damaged by Israeli bombs and amid a lack of supplies.

    Many Palestinians who have moved to southern Gaza have taken shelter at schools run by the UN Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) — the UN agency for Palestinian refugees — believing those to be relatively safer spaces. Others are staying in cramped conditions with host families and communities. Some left the north with only the clothes on their backs, others with small backpacks.

    Week in the Middle East


    “The schools are hardly places of refuge,” he said. “They are cemeteries for the living, without the basic necessities of life. We try to do our part, however small, in alleviating this crisis for the people.”

    Israel’s devastating bombing campaign followed a surprise Hamas attack on southern Israel on October 7, leading to 1,400 people’s deaths. The Israeli bombardment of Gaza has since flattened entire neighbourhoods, and killed more than 4,600 Palestinians in 16 days, including 1,873 children and 1,023 women.

    Yet, to Abu Assi — as to Palestinians across Gaza, Israel and the occupied West Bank — the latest aggression is only a reminder of a personal history.

    ‘Beautiful social solidarity’

    Abu Assi is a third-generation refugee originally from Jaffa, where his grandparents were displaced in 1948 during what Palestinians refer to as the Nakba. More than 750,000 Palestinians were forcibly evicted from their lands and homes, some 500 towns and villages were destroyed, and thousands were killed in a process of ethnic cleansing carried out by Jewish militias and the military of the then-nascent Israeli state.

    “Our grandfather told us that being a refugee is very hard to take, and that this bitterness will never be forgotten and is handed down to each generation,” Abu Assi recalled. “The pain in our hearts will never make us forgive Israel for what it has done and continues to do to us.”

    The children affected by the war this time around will never be able to forget surviving without food, water or electricity, he said.

    But amid the terror and trauma of missiles and the siege, a community has come together. Some people have approached the Abu Assi family to see if they too could also donate food to displaced Palestinians.

    “There is a beautiful social solidarity in the city of Khan Younis,” Abu Assi said. “We cannot accept hungry people not being able to find food, so there has been this organic cooperation to make sure that initiative continues to operate.”

    ‘Feel safe among the people’

    To accommodate the food needs of the rising displaced population that Khan Younis is hosting, Abu Assi has increased the number of cooking burners and divided the work among two teams.

    Meal preparation starts at seven in the morning, and the cooking goes on until 2pm.

    “We cannot leave our workplaces, but we told those who need food to come from two in the afternoon until 5pm,” Abu Assi said.

    “Some citizens volunteer to distribute meals in their cars to the displaced, which is a nice gesture as many of the displaced do not have means of transportation nor know the area very well.”

    Some families are grateful even just for rice — often for their only meal of the day.

    Karama Musallam, a 40-year-old mother of five, was looking for food when she came upon the Abu Assi family.

    Her family, including her 80-year-old mother-in-law, fled their home in the northern Gaza town of Beit Hanoon at the start of the war. They are staying at UNRWA school in Bani Suhaila.

    Musallam does not know anyone or have relatives in and around Khan Younis.

    “When I went out to look for food, I found these young men cooking and they gave me two meals so that it would be enough for my children,” she said.

    “They told me that I could come every day and take whatever meals available,” she added. “That is why I felt safe among the people.”

    “We are all one community.”

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    Ministry of Health in #Gaza:
    ~ What is happening in Gaza hospitals now constitutes war crimes.
    ~ More than 29 medical centers went out of service, as did many hospitals.
    ~ Power outage in the premature infants ward will lead to their immediate death.
    ~ We received more than 1,500 reports of people missing under the rubble in Gaza.

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    It’s been revealed that the material is an amateur biography of World Trade Center attacker Ramzi Yousef and contains no instructions on how to develop chemical weapons.

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    It’s not only the amount of violence, murders and destruction of all human values that is so unnerving , it is the depth of the conflict making it nearly impossible to solve that gives no hope to no people involved and eventually involves millions of people living in every part of world and generations of their descendants ,

    Jews , Arabs, Native and modern Americans, Egyptians , eventually the Brits and the Russians , the people of Thailand and about all the rest of us who wish to live in peace and care about the planet and state of society we are living ,

    constant effort for improvement and upgrade, war to save our environment and protect it from rising global temperature and other climatic changes ,

    Israel has developed some of the most advanced “clean technologies” of today and is advancing in many science fields with huge support from his supporters in the US and all around the world

    while his Palestinian neighbour lives in ruins ,
    levels behind ,

    who cares ?

    Are your politicians speaking for you ?

    If so , we have to contain ourselves with this version of prehistoric world I say and watch the fight of dinosaurs in modern Jurassic park called Gaza.

    I bet they will use some of these devastating scenes in new apocalyptic movie coming out next year.

    Are we so desensitised , so maimed , so drunken on our pride and arrogance , the lives in comfy zones millions of people know to have lost ,

    as they keep running to all directions of this world in search of safety and clean life for them and their children ,

    is this the world “on plan” ,

    the same goes for any other people on this planet experiencing calamity , famine , or other kind of disaster ,

    crossing the fence from night Seoul with 5G computer shops and karaoke bars ,

    the same country to the North has “other political allies”( since about last 100 years) so whoa we starve them to death instead having a good chat and dissolving the unfriendliness, the pretended ignorance, the political jargon lead by today’s new business class of dealers ,
    dealing us all big way;

    our lives for example, the quality of our environment and healthcare, the education standards and the energies they grant us for being indebted to them forever,

    their banks, their reserves , their fake smiles , well payed arrogance and pretences,


    Oh Humanity , how do you want to win the war with lies and deceit ?



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    https://www.iranintl.com/en/202310205679


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    “The Secretariat removed on 19 October 2023 from the Security Council website the list of 23 individuals and 61 entities subject to the aforementioned restrictive measures,” read the UN letter, terminating all provisions of Annex B of UN Security Council Resolution 2231 that prohibited activities such as development, tests, military employment, and others. The resolution endorsed Iran’s 2015 nuclear deal (JCPOA) with P5+1 (the five permanent members of the Council -- China, France, Russia, United Kingdom, United States, plus Germany).

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    I do find the timing of this perplexing.

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    Default Re: Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

    I guess when they start killing us directly then people come out and care.

    They have been soft killing us for as long as I have been alive.

    Now we care? And only because one massacre has lead to the brink of an even larger massacre that threatens to engulf the whole world.

    I contend that this scenario was inevitable due to the apathy of the world's citizens to the soft kill that has murdered billions of people in the last hundred years.

    Good to see that people care again. But it is really only posturing.

    The world's citizens pine for the good old days of the soft kill, where the majority could go about their lives ignoring their own shortened lives and the plight of those even less fortunate, and completely forget those that have passed due to direct negligence and corruption of all our major institutions.
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    Default Re: Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

    Neocons cannot be stopped, they will get war


    Personally, I agree that the psychopaths at the top in the USA and Isreal are doing all they can to start WW3 and get as many people killed as possible. But I still can't see every body else under their command following such orders. What if the underlings finally decided they've had enough of this madness and just stood down. It's possible, right? Please tell me it's possible.

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    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    I guess when they start killing us directly then people come out and care.

    They have been soft killing us for as long as I have been alive.

    Now we care? And only because one massacre has lead to the brink of an even larger massacre that threatens to engulf the whole world.

    I contend that this scenario was inevitable due to the apathy of the world's citizens to the soft kill that has murdered billions of people in the last hundred years.

    Good to see that people care again. But it is really only posturing.

    The world's citizens pine for the good old days of the soft kill, where the majority could go about their lives ignoring their own shortened lives and the plight of those even less fortunate, and completely forget those that have passed due to direct negligence and corruption of all our major institutions.
    Yes, it appears that the days of "soft kill' are pretty much a thing of the past. Everything corrupt and evil is so in our faces now days it's rather quite astonishing.

    I truly believe that we are about to see the whole middle east erupt into complete chaos, where it goes from there who knows. It won't be pretty, that's a fact.

    I said early in this thread that Iran appears to be the target in the bigger picture of things, unfortunately it appears that is what these psychopaths are gearing up for. There's no way IMO that China and Russia will allow Iran to be destroyed, but it's looking more and more like these war-mongering psychopaths don't care.

    I think we are about to see the world drastically change.
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    Very interesting analysis by Kim Iversen. I'm particularly disappointed that the Canadian "Rebel News" is now preaching censorship. It's run by Ezra Levant, a big supporter of 'Isreal can do no wrong'.

    Free Speech Warriors Suddenly Pro-Censorship


    Not mentioned by Kim, but there also the christian zionists. I'm shocked to see so many of them in Canada insisting that the bible says we must let Isreal do whatever to muslims, because that brings us the second coming of christ. It's as if they're under hypnosis. And these are people who had been standing on the side of protests against covid mandates, urging the government to use critical thinking... This is getting scary.

    The cabal is skilled in findings ways to divide people, and religion is their main tool.

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    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    Now we care? And only because one massacre has lead to the brink of an even larger massacre that threatens to engulf the whole world.

    I contend that this scenario was inevitable due to the apathy of the world's citizens to the soft kill that has murdered billions of people in the last hundred years.

    I would say "lack of access".

    Notice that I could find a way to go on a Ukrainian Safari, or join ISIS.

    Syrian or Russian armies are not interested in volunteers, nor can you just "get into" anything like the Houthis, or the non-Ziofied Kurdish, or Palestine.

    No types of revolutions are known to have ever happened by a crowd of "rabble", i. e. someone like me who has basically nothing.

    It takes the petits bourgeoise, that is, people with some amount of resources, to mobilize something that might be effective.

    It happened one time, it's called Greek Independence, which was only possible because a wealthy Greek diaspora in numerous countries was able to raise support. This was like a world fever for several years. But nothing like that has happened for the people that U. S. and Israel attack, instead, yes, we got a century of soft kill against us.

    Mere crowds of angry people are only capable of Antifa tactics like messing up Oregon with no purpose.

    In my view, I would have combatted our armed forces wherever they went, with the possible exception of Khmer Rouge.

    Nothing is in place to do that.

    If there were, out of all those gigantic crowds that are making a fuss, someone else would go too.

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    Neocons cannot be stopped, they will get war


    Personally, I agree that the psychopaths at the top in the USA and Isreal are doing all they can to start WW3 and get as many people killed as possible. But I still can't see every body else under their command following such orders. What if the underlings finally decided they've had enough of this madness and just stood down. It's possible, right? Please tell me it's possible.
    Rizotto, this has always been one of the most interesting aspects of any genocide or horrific cruelty, or action that will ultimately destroy ones own family or self, think war. Why do most just go along with it. Here are a number of possibilities .

    1- The assumption is made that the authority understands more and is better equipped to make a judgement. Programming to believe this.

    2- I'm just following orders.

    3-I and the ones I care for will be safe I go along with it.

    4-This one is bigger than most believe.-----I love my little bit of authority and I will use it and abuse it and benefit from it to the max.

    5-FEAR -if I go along I will do it to get along.

    6- Way down the list is "I deeply understand why we are doing this and I believe it is the just thing to do".


    I could have added a bunch of nuances, but I think that these are some of the major components.

    There are a very, very few who would dare think for themselves and muster the courage to follow through with that conviction if it goes against the consensus narrative.

    I know, from personal experience. I tend to be a coward, the mask thing was a tiny step to make the "right" decision and I was very uncomfortable but was able to do it. It made me realize how very programmed I am and any thought that I was generally courageous was self deception. It is something I will need to work on and practice. That's what it takes is good old fashioned practice with a strong intent. I don't want to leave this realm as a coward. I suspect perfection may be too high a goal but not giving up, continuing to walk the narrow path.

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    Not mentioned by Kim, but there also the christian zionists. I'm shocked to see so many of them in Canada insisting that the bible says we must let Isreal do whatever to muslims, because that brings us the second coming of christ. It's as if they're under hypnosis.

    There are probably, only, the Christian Zionists.

    This derives from the Biblical statement that the Throne of David is eternal, so i. e., Jesus, the Jewish Messiah, and/or any important people, must be descendants of David. Someone must be legitimately owning that throne at all times. Even if unoccupied, someone, legally, is supposed to have it.



    This may sound familiar when the English decided they were generally the tribe of Ephraim:


    Quote Brith-ish (two Hebrew words) meaning “covenant man,”

    This Stone of Destiny represents the constitutional centre of God’s Kingdom upon Earth.

    This throne was to be an enduring and everlasting throne never wanting a successor to occupy the constitutional centre of God’s Kingdom rule until Jesus Christ should return (I Kings 2:4; 8:25, this included the Hebrew Law of Inheritance through the female).

    ...the Royal Line of David remained intact, from King David in Palestine, via Ireland, Scotland and England to Queen Elizabeth II today.

    That's bold, but theoretically, mostly Jews are descended from David. Going to King James:


    Quote When Elizabeth died, James ascended the Throne of David, not without opposition, but through his ascendancy, he brought the warring nations of England and Scotland together into a single kingdom, as prophesied by the prophet Ezekiel centuries earlier (see Ezekiel 37: 22 above).

    When he succeeded Elizabeth I in 1603, he claimed that God had made him king of Israel and had the statement “I will make them one nation” (from Ezekiel 37:22) inscribed on the reverse of a freshly minted coin, “The Unite.” He knew full well that the throne upon which he was sitting was an extension of the Throne of David.

    Is that putting words in his mouth? Well, Jews were probably discussing it constantly since the time of David, and this may be where the English idea comes in first:


    Edward-iv (1442-1483) of England had his genealogy drawn up. This traced his ancestry back to King Yehoshaphat (867-851 BCE) of Judah.


    Of course this concerns "Divine Right" (through bloodlines particularly), and whether the real throne is Jewish, in Rome, or England. And so of course someone is going to make this claim. Does a fifteenth-century flatterer actually know that much about two thousand years of lost generations?

    I was able to find this claim as to David's genetics:


    Y haplotpye of DNA J1 from his fathers and MT haplotype of DNA from his mothers


    but honestly, these articles are so shallow and horrible, they should be purged from the face of the earth. Any decent genetics study will do things like...give results of that study. There's no such thing as "Haplogroup MT". There is Basal M and sub-clades such as M1 and so on. So that authority is actually retarded.


    James pretty seriously believed these things; as to Elizabeth or his other forebears, I am not sure. Israelism "for the people" was first written in 1590 by a Hugenot. Most likely the "Royal descent" idea came first, and the "Tribes" followed.

    It's not quite Zionism because it is the simple belief that the English Crown is already all this.

    Zionism is further misinterpretations as if the Bible was talking about modern Russia and Germany, mixed with the employment by Oliver Cromwell of the Jewish Diaspora. Obviously things outwardly bound from England, not a justification of its own ruler.

    There isn't perceptibly "Jewish Zionism" until 1897 and Herzel.

    What is very perceptible is that the Davidic line claimants are Jews and Protestants--if you look at some Orthodox web pages, you do not find anything about this. They just accept that the Second Coming would be part of it. There seems to be nothing about who it is, or who it has been for generations, nothing like that.

    We get many wars from this British belief that a sensible person would simply ignore.

    Hereditary Divine Right is a complete contrast to the Enlightened Monarch who has to renew and invigorate their social contract by actually providing well-being to the subjects.

    Fanaticism about bloodlines is among the most revolting, bestial concepts I can imagine.


    Concerning Edward IV was both the Wars of the Roses, and that he temporarily dampened the Venetian monopoly:


    That the Venetians remained important in many branches of English trade may be attributed to the sophisticated organisation, business techniques, and the vast network of mercantile and financial connections which the Venetians maintained in the major markets of Europe and the Levant. The importance of the Venetians to the English crown was paramount in the maintenance of their position.


    Although Venetian letters of the time also discuss their fight at Rhodes v. Knights of Malta, and that England and France had made perpetual peace.


    His lavish habits were such that:


    Edward's spending habitually exceeded income; on his death in 1483, the Crown had less than £1,200 in cash. His close relationship with the London branch of the Medici Bank ended in its bankruptcy; in 1517, the Medicis were still seeking repayment of Edward's debts.


    Not surprising, the Medicis take a dive, while the Venetians mount a comeback.

    The "Davidic ancestry" rather traces him to the origin of the universe.

    You can view it at U-Penn:

    This late-fifteenth-century genealogical roll was most likely made for Edward IV during his reign and is largely based on the twelfth century account of Geoffrey of Monmouth.


    And to most historians' views, it is sheer manipulation:


    Quote Even though not many genealogy rolls from Henry VII’s reign exists, they were very popular with Edward IV (1442–1483).


    Edward IV adopted the genealogies from Henry VI’s persuasive effort in France but turned the tables. Henry’s claim to the French throne became Lancastrian foreign blood. Edward’s use of agitation propaganda is perhaps best summarised in Henry VI as a French foreigner, and with the recently concluded hundred-year war between England and France fresh in mind, the Lancastrian claim to the French and English throne paints them as invaders.

    Edward IV also used familiar histories and mythical stories to create an image of a justified usurpation. The Oxford, Bodleian Library, Bodley MS 623,Footnote42 (63/71, r & v), shows how Edward used Arthurian myth and symbolism to claim descent from Brutus and the native red dragon, Rubeu[s] Draco, while Henry VI lineage is the white invading Saxon Albus Draco.
    or:


    It was created to justify Edward IV’s accession to the throne of England by right of birth and to challenge the right of his predecessor, and is very much a work of fifteenth-century propaganda.



    That's not terribly surprising.

    However, these are the source documents which attach the idea to the Throne of David:

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    I don't want to leave this realm as a coward.
    Love this.

    This speaks to two of the five regrets of the dying:

    1. I wish I’d had the courage to live a life true to myself, not the life others expected of me.
    2. I wish I’d had the courage to express my feelings.

    At the end of the day, we are all trying to avoid suffering, which includes worrying about what others think of us. Like you, I don't want to leave this realm as a coward not speaking my truth.
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    Neocons cannot be stopped, they will get war


    Personally, I agree that the psychopaths at the top in the USA and Isreal are doing all they can to start WW3 and get as many people killed as possible. But I still can't see every body else under their command following such orders. What if the underlings finally decided they've had enough of this madness and just stood down. It's possible, right? Please tell me it's possible.
    Theres that well-known saying: " It's a case of sh*t or bust", when you've played all your trump cards and there's nothing much left. Thanks to Biden's term of office the US is broke and no longer has the influence or power it once had, so they and the West, are going for broke and pushing . . . And we, the civilians, are merely collateral damage.
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    However, these are the source documents which attach the idea to the Throne of David:

    I have to double down on this and knock out two propagandas with one battleaxe.

    The one that you don't take seriously is that the nationalists of India believe that Tara Hill in Ireland means it was an Indian colony from 11,000 B. C. E.

    I know you don't believe this, but, about 700 million of them do.

    As to Israel, the simple answer is No, from a thread between reason and Bible quotes.


    In trying to find any source document that might pin Edward IV's halfway understandable Descent from Adam, to King James thinking he was King of Israel, I kept running into a million churches regurgitating the same feast on their lord's carcass.

    It's bad.

    The claim is that ancient Judeans literally passed the "Throne of David" into Ireland.

    This bothers me on so many levels I cannot believe the drunkest Irishman would even garble these words.

    What is worse is that it is like fourth-gen propaganda.


    There is a rather long article about it and we just need a few extracts involving no less than an attempted A&E lawsuit on a debate which is simultaneously tied to the Ark of the Covenant:


    Quote We start at the Hill of Tara in Ireland, where Wolter claims—falsely—that the Ark was last seen. This myth exists only in a certain strain of fringe history myth-making called British Israelism. Wolter fails to inform viewers of the origins of his claims for the Hill of Tara, and it is evident from the presentation of the episode that the producers explicitly tried to keep that origin hidden. As Wolter talks with an expert in Irish history at Tara, rather clumsy edits cut the expert off as she attempts to describe the very recent origins of the myth. It starts with a philosophy called British Israelism, an ideology advocated most forcefully in the nineteenth century that asserted that the British were the direct lineal descendants of the Lost Tribes of Israel and were the Chosen People of God. As a result, England was believed to be the successor state to David’s kingdom, and the royal family of Britain God’s representatives on earth. This philosophy served to justify British imperial claims to world domination, but scholars routinely attacked its outlandish distortions of history in its own time and down to the present. Today, British Israelism is a fringe belief, advocated most forcefully by the white supremacist Christian Identity movement and other white supremacist organizations. Some non-racist organizations maintain the ideology as well, including the British-Israel World Federation, which has denounced many of the original British-Israel claims cited by Wolter.

    In 1861 a churchman, the Rev. F. R. A. Glover, wrote a book called England, the Remnant of Judah and the Israel of Ephraim, which I have posted in full in my Library. This was the first text to present the Tara-Jeremiah-Tea Tephi myth given uncritically by Scott Wolter without acknowledgement of the source.

    Right. It's a "tradition" or "ancient legend", blended with the predictable cross-naming of names where this thing in Hebrew sounds like that thing in Gaelic.

    The throne had to temporarily pass through a female:


    Quote In 1024, in the poetry of Cuan O’Cochlain (attributed; many think the source text is older), we read that Tephi, daughter Cino Bactir, a king in Spain, died and her fantastic tomb became Tara. He was repeating a claim made by Amergin in the sixth century. These are the foundational poems that contributed to the myth.

    Glover and the British Israelists made Tephi into a daughter of Zedekiah, the last Jewish king before the destruction of Jerusalem in 587 BCE, and had her marry a Milesian (Scot) and bring the Stone of Destiny to Ireland and call it the Pillow of Jacob. This is very much a purposeful misinterpretation of Cuan O’Cochlain’s discussion of how Tephi married Canthon of Britain, and the Britons’ most important idol, the Etherun or Taran, was left in Spain until her body was restored to that country. Tephi’s tomb in Spain then became the model for another tomb in Ireland, called Tara, after the return of the stone idol.

    Even though the Scottish legends of their coronation stone explain it as being handled by a Greek, the English version says that the Judaic Irish one was passed to Scotland by none other than King Fergus which is infuriating.

    Between the medieval songs and the coronation stone(s), we reach this remarkable conclusion:


    Quote Glover had conflated fragments of genuine poetry and invented identifications for various Irish figures to interpolate Jeremiah into the story. No mention of the Ark exists in these poems; the Book of Tephi, the poem that does describe all of this, is a late nineteenth century poem written in 1897 by John A. Goodchild, based on Glover’s work, that believers like Scott Wolter mistake for a genuine ancient text. It was based on fragments of Irish poetry, Bible passages, and British Israelist literature; the author even admits his “ignorance” of the subject on which he writes in the voice of the imaginary princess!

    Naturally, Scott Wolter simply omits all of this history and tells the audience that “legend” says that Tea-Tephi and Jeremiah teamed up to take the Ark and the Stone of Destiny to Ireland, a “legend” that does not exist before the late nineteenth century.

    That is a pretty sweet match with Theodore Herzl, 1897.

    The source text for the claimed belief of King James comes from 1897. He might have come up with it out of Ezekiel if that was a real coin minted.


    The relatively mild Queen Elizabeth I definitely had some unscrupulous imperialists about her (Cabal); she was friendly to Russia, did not like the Puritans, and:


    Expectations of King James started high but then declined. By the 1620s, there was a nostalgic revival of the cult of Elizabeth.


    I, at least, am unaware of anything that might have put Israel in her mind whatsoever. In her time, there were only a few Marranos, and:


    Quote Jews in 16th-century England practised their religion secretly, and many of those raised in the Jewish faith either converted to Christianity or pretended to have done so.

    Perhaps the most notorious of these Jews was Roderigo Lopez, Elizabeth’s personal physician, drawn and quartered in 1594 for allegedly conspiring to poison the Queen. The historian William Camden reports that Lopez went to his death strenuously ‘affirming that he loved the Queen as well as he loved Jesus Christ; which, coming from a man of the Jewish profession, moved no small laughter in the standers-by’.

    Sir John Mandeville’s popular Travels, reprinted well into the 17th century, even warns of a Jewish military threat: at the time of Antichrist the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel, now penned in beyond the hills of Cathay, ‘shall come out, and Christian men shall be in their subjection, as they be under Christian men now.’

    There was even a scheme to resettle foreign Jews in Ireland: in 1607, Sir Thomas Shirley urged King James to resolve in one stroke both the Irish and the Jewish problem, while reaping the benefit of heavy taxation. His suggestion was not acted on (though it was still taken seriously enough a half-century later in James Harington’s political treatise, Oceana).


    It appears to me that some Protestants--perhaps I should say Fundamentalists--have deluded themselves greatly.

    The UK is the triply-turned Throne of David. Really? How gullible or superstitious are these folk? Completely? Is this freedom protected by law? Does that constitute a religion? Do they know about this in Scotland or Ireland? Will France be Merovingian all over again?

    Let me review. Are these the people who would burn you alive for what you think?

    Oh.


    There had not been many and they were usually politically motivated (or else insane) such as the Duchess of Gloucester 1441. There was herbalism:


    potions to help her conceive.


    and the king can use astrology, but when you do it, it's called:


    treasonable necromancy.


    With King James, persecution began turning into "anyone" and:


    The witch hunt was at its most intense stage during the English Civil War (1642–1651) and the Puritan era of the mid-17th century.



    They stopped in 1735. It is the same thing in Salem, Massachusetts, however William Penn acquitted some.

    My guess is what we are seeing now is a slight twist on this witch hunt.

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