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    Earlier in October Egypt (edited: riginally I said Turkey ) stated that it was not going to open it's border to Palestinians fleeing south.

    Has this changed?

    Where are all of the people supposed to go? And once they go far enough south, what then?

    It seems to me that they keep pushing the people into a corner then inevitably those people will have no choice but to push back.

    Is that the plan? Where/what is the plan to help those who are not a part of the Hamas terrorist group?

    Or has Israel lumped them all together?
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    Israeli Rabbis say it is ok to BOMB Al-Shifa Hospital

    Rabbis are assuring Israel’s leaders that such a war crime would be OK by the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Here’s what they say about the Shifa hospital:

    It is necessary to clarify, that also when the enemy hides behind a “human shield”, as with the information about the terrorist headquarters at the Shifa hospital in Gaza – there is no halachic [Jewish religious law] or moral prohibition, nor a legal one, for bombing the enemy after sufficient warning. And if under such action innocent blood will be spilled, the guilt will be solely on the heads of the cruel [Hamas] murderers and their supporters.

    *Israel previously claimed that Hamas headquarters were located beneath Al-Shifa hospital where over 10,000 Palestinians are sheltering.

    Israel is a sick, depraved, and distorted Judeo-fascist society.

    https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1719448954998595952


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    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
    https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1719429251215008045



    https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1719424079860572438



    https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1719435169474424998



    https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1719438222323851683



    https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1719444127392166000

    This slaughter of innocents is totally wrong and completely unacceptable. It must end now.

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    https://x.com/Timesofgaza/status/1719319945660551485



    https://x.com/Timesofgaza/status/1719315070461587565



    https://x.com/Timesofgaza/status/1719340991910461787



    https://x.com/Timesofgaza/status/1719405412301029555


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    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
    https://x.com/MiddleEastEye/status/1719025745626910862

    Assuming the subtitles are accurate, this guy is a pathological, satanic madman. I dare say, that if anyone should be destroyed, it’s him and “people” like him.

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    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
    https://x.com/MiddleEastEye/status/1719025745626910862

    Assuming the subtitles are accurate, this guy is a pathological, satanic madman. I dare say, that if anyone should be destroyed, it’s him and “people” like him.
    Yes I know Italian and I listened to what he said in Italian.

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    I perhaps am misunderstanding "Yemen" and "war".

    Yahya Saria is Ansar Allah.

    Not calling them "Houthi rebels" is equivalent to saying that they are the legitimate government of Yemen.

    Israel claims to have repelled one projectile with this thing:






    which does not answer for "three waves" asserted to be launched at them.

    It is similar to the United States; South Yemen would rather secede, than take over the current Yemen. Unlike South Sudan or Donbass, I am not aware of this being "recognized" by anyone, although de facto, it must be close to the state of affairs. Hard to say, since we didn't pay that much attention to Saud bombing Yemeni children and so forth, whereas Israel racks up fifty pages in under a month.

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    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
    Yes I know Italian and I listened to what he said in Italian.

    Sounds like a match for what I understand to be an incredibly fascist Italian government.

    None of the Italians that I have personally known would have anything to do with that. A few acquaintances, and I once married a Sicilian Catholic, and the family did not believe what the Pope said, either.

    Don't you appreciate the honesty? We spent the 1900s with all this time-delayed secrecy, like what happened to the U. S. S. Liberty...now there is open, everyday confession from almost everyone who might be placed under suspicion. Talk about a "control" factor.

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    Bringing back into consciousness that there is a ZERO percent chance that the Mossad and Israeli intelligence failed on October 7th. The Mossad and Israel orchestrated the event, and it is the excuse to wipe out or permanently displace the prisoners of Gaza and annex the land, develop the land, and call it Israel. Israel would love to get Iran bombed and Syria finished off as well, and that would be a bonus for them, but this is primarily Operation Steal Gaza. No one in the world can or will stop Israel from their objective to remove or kill all Palestinians in Gaza and annex all of (former) Gaza. Three steps forward, one step back. The West Bank will be targeted afterwards - it might be 10 years, but they will wipe Palestine off the map, and they know that no one - especially the Zionist Christians in power in the USA, Inc. - will stop them.


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    Default Re: Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

    Adding another twist...

    The Ben Gurion canal has been put forward many times in the past to by-pass the Suez and the $10 billion per year in revenue for Egypt that it generates. Costs for its construction is estimated between $20-60 Billion dollars. Is the destruction of Gaza and displacing a million Palestinians more than just vengeful retribution?

    https://www.turkiyenewspaper.com/politics/16892

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    Operation Obliterate Gaza is junior league to Operation Remove Zion.


    This afternoon was definitely Houthis:




    Quote Mohammad Al-Bukhaiti, member of the Ansarullah Political Bureau, said that “Sayyed Abdul-Malik Al-Houthi ordered the launching of missiles after the Israeli ground aggression on Gaza and after the American threats to Yemen.”

    In a televised interview on Tuesday evening , Al-Bukhaiti revealed that “the United States conveyed threats to Yemen, and the armed forces only responded by firing guided missiles.”

    “Washington sent its threat via the Omani mediator, but Sayyed Al-Houthi reiterated that Yemen would step in whenever the Israelis attacked on land in Gaza”, he added.

    Commenting on the Ansar Allah movement’s missile-launching operation in Yemen, Al-Bukhaiti explained: “A large number of ballistic missiles and drones were used in the operation. The Israeli enemy admitted to shooting down one missile while keeping the details of the remainders secret.”

    He concluded, wondering: “The Americans and Israelis admitted to intercepting one Yemeni missile…so where are the rest of the missiles?”


    The Gazans aren't going anywhere. The Israelis are:




    65,000 displaced from only one border prowled by amateurs. Twenty-eight kibbutzes banished. See any valiance in those private persons? I know at least five of them could uplift a slingshot, but their livers were eaten in the days of Sisyphus.


    After being forced to witness this d bag's Zio piglets in the scariest Halloween costumes ever:





    Quote Several people sat on Tuesday, October 31, in silence behind US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken and Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin, raising their hands smeared with red paint to symbolize the murderous situation in Gaza.

    Then, some of them started standing up from time to time to chant, “Stop shooting now.” One protester shouted, “Save the children of Gaza” and “Shame on you all,” while another demonstrator chose to wear a jacket that said, “Stop funding genocide.” Therefore, Blinken was forced to stop speaking many times before the demonstrators got kicked out of the hall by police.

    Why not take your Ukrainians to the trenches, weasel.

    As the saying goes "I will die on my feet before I live on my knees".

    Here is a tune for poor people who find themselves fighting air forces. Udo is playing this at no less than 71 years of age and probably the only one I can think of who is able to bring in his son as the drummer.

    The Battle Understood





    Fears turns into anger
    Scars turn into blood
    Losing makes you stronger
    The battle understood

    A bitter sweet dilemma
    A game that claims it all
    Don′t turn away and hide your weakness
    Before the counters fall

    Show your cards, time for showdown
    Let the nightmare start
    Let it rain, from the sky
    Let the nightmare start

    The sin is to consider
    Don't estimate your plight
    Just play your hand, forget the madness
    You have the might to strike

    Show your cards, time for showdown
    Let the nightmare start
    Let it rain, from the sky
    Let the nightmare start

    Fears turns into anger
    Scars turn into blood
    Losing makes you stronger
    The battle understood

    Don′t try to stop the healing
    You need to get it right
    How does it feel, to be the winner?
    The victor of the night

    Show your cards, time for showdown
    Let the nightmare start
    Let it rain, from the sky
    Let the nightmare start

    Fears turns into anger
    Scars turn into blood
    Losing makes you stronger
    The battle understood

    With a conscience shining bright
    Endless through the night
    Hear me crying out in vain
    Try to hide that strain

    Fears turns into anger
    Scars turn into blood
    Losing makes you stronger
    The battle understood
    Fears turns into anger
    Scars turn into blood
    Losing makes you stronger
    The battle understood



    In the most complicated history ever, Udo picked up Peter Baltes who has been in Accept since 1976. Here is a Russian fan video by Saracen for Accept with an American singer.


    No One's Master




    The media's controlling the masses
    Stoking our anger and fear
    Further dividing the classes
    Serving the richest's careers

    Their mantra is lies and deception
    When honesty's all that I crave
    I decline and there'll be no exceptions
    I am no one's master
    No one's slave

    No one's slave

    Living in fear ain't worth living
    Wasting your life is the crime
    The reaper will be unforgiving
    Wake up, while you're still in your prime

    The guide of my life is my conscience
    My way is the path that I pave
    I treat, how I want to be treated
    I am no one's master
    No one's slave

    No one's slave

    I won't rule
    I won't bow
    I won't sink my eyes to the ground
    I won't steal
    I won't kneel
    I won't bend my knee to the crowned

    I pledge an oath to myself and to life
    I'm not afraid of the sword or the knife

    The guide of my life is my conscience
    My way is the path that I pave
    Equality's all that I'm after
    I am no one's master
    No one's slave

    No one's slave
    No one's master
    I am no one's
    No one's slave

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    ....sent $6 billion to Iran to pay its proxy terror group, Hamas,....
    That's news to me - Iran controls Hamas, is this common knowledge beyond my own awareness?

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    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    EMERALDS LATEST!!! Had to share it.

    Dear America: We've Got Our Own War To Win
    Israel and Ukraine are just distractions from the great tyranny at home
    EMERALD ROBINSON
    OCT 31







    Nothing in the swamp is a coincidence.

    The Biden regime has been staring at a dismal fate just twelve months out from the 2024 election. There were impeachment charges in the House to face, and terrible approval polls to digest — even among Democrats. Things were so bad that the mysterious death of Barack Obama’s personal chef was getting attention.

    It was a terrible news cycle.

    Something had to change.

    So the Biden regime sent $6 billion to Iran to pay its proxy terror group, Hamas, for a “little war” in Israel as a distraction. Isn't it obvious?

    Image
    In fact, the United States “is currently funding virtually every side of every conflict in the Middle East” according to Trump advisor Stephen Miller.

    Who can doubt that dismal truth?

    Now wonder it seems so hard to keep Hamas’ barbaric raid from becoming the Last Great War. Since Washington has become the foreign-aid money-laundering capital of the world, our politicians seem to be taking all sides at once.

    The Biden regime funnels dark money to Iran and military aid packages to Israel and humanitarian relief to Gaza — all at the same time.

    Our strategy is to foment pure chaos.

    We seem to be sleep-walking toward Armageddon — which people tend to forget is not only a metaphor but a place.

    It’s the last battle on the plains of Megiddo in Israel.

    Of course, America’s corporate media has faithfully complied with Obama-Biden’s “wag the dog” strategy. All that you have to do is compare the treatment of Ukraine to Israel to see the plan. Nearly 500,000 people have died in the Ukraine war — but the corporate media in America wouldn’t let you see three minutes of war footage in the last two years. Compare that total media blackout to the 24/7 coverage that Americans have been fed in the last few weeks of paragliding Muslim jihadists.

    The CIA lets you see what it wants you to see.

    All of this war coverage has had its desired effect. It's simply astonishing to see the number of Americans who can't stop talking about the Hamas invasion of Israel while 8 million illegal aliens swarm across their own border.

    Isn’t it obvious? You are being diverted by the corporate media to care about a war that is not your problem.

    Consider your present circumstances: your elections are rigged. An illegal regime, using a dementia patient who’s been bribed by China as its figurehead, just forced you to take a dangerous and untested shot — which has already killed many people. Your secret police are now arresting parents at school board meetings and infiltrating Christian churches openly. Your nation is being invaded at its border by millions of illegal aliens — and that invasion is taking place with the assistance of the Department of Homeland Security.

    That's why America’s mass media has you worried about Gaza.


    Look how easily your attention was diverted. Look how easy it was to make you dismiss your own interests. Look how quickly you forgot your own nation.

    You might want to take a break from being a fool this time.

    My advice to you is quite simple: stop obeying your television. You must retake your attention and your focus from the latest Current Thing.

    Don't be distracted by the war in Israel.

    Don't be distracted by the war in Ukraine.

    You have your own war to win.

    That war is at home.

    The tyrants you must overthrow are right here in America.

    I Need Your Help!

    I was banned from Twitter in 2021 since I warned you about the dangerous COVID vaccines. Then left-wing hate groups targeted me in Washington Post articles to keep me banned on social media altogether. Now Smartmatic and Dominion want to search through my emails and telephone records.

    It’s very expensive to prepare for litigation, and discovery, in these massive lawsuits brought by the voting machine companies. (Fox News paid out almost $800 million just last year.) They try to bankrupt and silence conservative journalists by dragging them through court proceedings for years.

    Independent and fearless journalists need your support like never before.

    I need your support like never before.

    If we are going to survive the current regime then we must stand together.

    I’ve got your back. Do you have mine?
    Thank you for this powerful piece. Is there a link? Needs to be shared!

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    I had a very vivid dream last night of a nuke going off in the middle east. In the dream it appeared to be Iran that was nuked.

    This dream was either an omen for things to come or a sign I need to step away from this thread for a while!
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    Default Re: Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

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    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    ....sent $6 billion to Iran to pay its proxy terror group, Hamas,....
    That's news to me - Iran controls Hamas, is this common knowledge beyond my own awareness?
    No, this is all US neocon propaganda. Qatar has always backed and funded Hamas far more than Iran, yet no-one's threatening war against Qatar!

    Iran has been on the US warmongering hit list for years now, and this is both their excuse and maybe their last opportunity — and, some might argue, might have been the US-Israeli engineered goal all along.

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    Scott Ritter is emphatic that Israel's war on Gaza means it's the end of zionist Isreal. The world has turned against it.
    Scott Ritter, fmr UN Weapons Inspector: Dangers to the US of Israeli invasions.


    Could well be the end of USA too. But the biggest issue is, will the 'world' allow Isreal to wipe out Gazans to the last one? Muslim countries have been threatening for several days now to intervene against Isreal. My own take is that the Isreal-USA axis timed this genocidal war to counter the BRICS success, which they view as one of their major threat to their goal of world control. Turkey, Syria, Iran, Russia joining this conflict might jeopardize the stability required for economic alliances. On the other hand, the USA-Isreal genocidal madness might convince even more countries to distance themselves from that axis of evil, and move towards saner alliances like the BRICS.

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    A short and clear message from Noam Chomsky:

    Noam Chomsky refutes Israel's claims


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    "We bring you the voices of Jewish Voice for Peace and their allies who shut down the main terminal of Grand Central Station during rush hour Friday in one of New York's largest acts of civil disobedience in 20 years to demand a ceasefire in Gaza. The multiracial, intergenerational movement says about 400 people were arrested, including rabbis, famous actors and elected officials from the New York State Assembly and Senate and the City Council."

    "Not in Our Name": 400 Arrested at Jewish-Led Sit-in at NYC's Grand Central Demanding Gaza Ceasefire

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    This may resonate with many here if it hasn't already been suggested

    From Clif High via Twitter/X - at least he's offering solutions, in his own inimitable style....
    The Big Swede is correct.
    Jordan Peterson's ARC project will be destroyed.
    With 1500 attendees, we can be sure that the WEF has already infiltrated. This is the way of the organization. Create one & you create an easy target for the mother WEFfers.

    This is why the time of organized social movements is over. Now is the time of the Self Organizing Collective Action.

    What happens is that people will naturally gravitate to a good idea on their own. They will tell their frenz & it will spread. If the idea is good, the universe will see it grows.

    In this way, there is no organization to be infiltrated & to 'go bad' by dirty deeds.

    If the idea is good, it rules.

    The way it will be visible is through individual acts of personal bravery which will be compelling enough to illicit duplication.

    As an example, some woman decides she is too torn, too emotional over the destruction of Gaza & the genocide of the Palestinians, so she just says "**** it all" and shaves her head. She then takes the hair & mails it to the Israeli embassy in her country with a note reminding them that they replicate the evil done to them.

    In this day, she of course, has to document it with videos. So she invents a slogan.

    "I suffer with Palestine". Then she makes a vid of her shaving her hair off, or maybe convinces a friend to do it for her. Then maybe they join in too.

    No organization, but suddenly there are videos of 'I suffer with Palestine" popping up all over & the mail is carrying envelopes of hair to Israelis all over the planet.

    Then she gets interviewed. Just the way it is these days.
    Yada yada yada, and her story comes out & is caught up in a collective frenzy about "I too suffer with palestine".

    Self organizing collective of commonly focused minds.
    No org. No funding. No points of corruption.
    We will see the failure of Jordan's ARC as we watch the SOCs rise.

    The [KM] can't do **** vs SOC.
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    Quote Posted by Ewan (here)
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    ....sent $6 billion to Iran to pay its proxy terror group, Hamas,....
    That's news to me - Iran controls Hamas, is this common knowledge beyond my own awareness?
    My understanding is that Hamas (as much an ideology as it is an organisation) is funded by Qatar, and is an entity that has been enabled by Israel. That's pretty much a nailed on fact (sources: WikiLeaks and Mehdi Hasan, to name only two)
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