Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

[Bill Ryan]

A serious note. Right this moment we're closer to WWIII than we've ever been in the last 60 years. All that it would take is for Israel to launch a nuke if it starts to feel overwhelmed. Even a 'small' tactical nuke in Lebanon or Iran could easily.unleash all the demons of hell.



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[Bill Ryan]

Israel has called for an emergency meeting of the UN.

https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/6176

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[Ravenlocke]

Text:
Iran Reay to Rain Hell on Israel If Zionist Regime Chooses to Retaliate

Informed sources informed Tasnim news agency that #Iran will escalate its retaliation with greater intensity if Israel takes further action.

After the completion of the ongoing punitive operation by Iran and the Resistance Front, if the Zionists choose to retaliate, the next response will be immediate and more severe, the sources added.

https://x.com/Tasnimnews_EN/status/1779303291735740597

[bojancan]

This is Live... interesting talking...

Al Jazeera English LIVE

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=gCNeDWCI0vo

[Ravenlocke]

Text:
Base Used by Israeli Planes to Strike Iranian Consulate Hit by Missiles

A base utilized by #Israeli planes to target the #Iranian consular section of the embassy came under missile attack.

Among the targets of the Iranian missile attack was the airbase previously used by Israelis to target the Iranian consular section of the embassy in #Damascus.

https://x.com/Tasnimnews_EN/status/1779300261908877448

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by bojancan (here)
This is Live... interesting talking...

Al Jazeera English LIVE

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=gCNeDWCI0vo

Thanks — this is excellent.

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Another personal comment. The Russians are used to being at war, and it's in their DNA. Almost the entire population there is patriotic, strong, as tough as nails, and (in my very strong opinion) will never be beaten on any battlefield of any kind. The more they're attacked, the stronger they get. (Western media still hasn't realized this, even with the historical evidence over hundreds of years.)

The Israelis are different. They're brittle, not used to this (at all), accustomed to getting their way whatever happens (the analogy is like the worldview of a spoiled child), and are unlikely to be able to tolerate being seriously at war for very long at all. How the Israeli government will respond is anyone's guess.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Israel has called for an emergency meeting of the UN.

Now confirmed to be held at 4 pm New York time tomorrow (Sunday, 14 April).

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Israel has called for an emergency meeting of the UN.

Now confirmed to be held at 4 pm New York time tomorrow (Sunday, 14 April).

These will be the nations in attendance, all of which can vote on any resolution proposed. But only the permanent members can veto.

Permanent members:

• China
• France
• Russian Federation
• United Kingdom
• United States

Non-permanent members:

• Algeria
• Ecuador
• Guyana
• Japan
• Malta
• Mozambique
• South Korea
• Sierra Leone
• Slovenia
• Switzerland

Russia and China will point out, quite correctly, that Iran's sovereign territory (i.e. their consulate) was attacked by Israel, which is technically and legally an act of war. And therefore, again in legal terms, Iran's response has been entirely in self-defense.

The arguments will be interesting, passionate, and important. Israel has been vitriolically critical of the UN in past months, including having called on the UN Secretary-General to resign.

But now they want the UN's help. The UN, as a voting body, might not be all that keen to assist.

[Bill Ryan]

Scott Ritter believes that Iran has hypersonic missiles in service, and has already used them.

https://twitter.com/RealScottRitter/...04880139559275

The text:

Eye for an eye.
Iran struck Nevatim air base with at least seven of its new hypersonic missiles.
Nevatim is home to the F-35 fighters that attacked the Iranian consulate in Damascus.
Not a single Iranian missile was intercepted.
Let that sink in.
Israel is defenseless.

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[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Scott Ritter believes that Iran has hypersonic missiles in service, and has already used them.

Meanwhile —>

https://twitter.com/The_Real_Fly/sta...21141884055945

The text:

ISRAELI TV 14:
“The Americans spent nearly a billion dollars on interceptor missiles tonight.”

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That's Israeli TV, not someone wildly guessing on their Telegram channel. If this is correct, that can only mean a huge sudden expenditure of Patriot Missiles, the kind of thing we saw last year when Ukraine launched every missile it had to prevent the Patriot battery itself being destroyed by a single Russian Kinzhal hypersonic missile — which it was.

Whatever hypersonic missiles Iran has (whether they're Russian or all their own) are likely to be pinpoint-accurate, just as has been demonstrated in Ukraine. Speculating further, it's likely to have been an intentional show of strength to both Israel and the US:

"See what we can do. You'd better stop now."

[holcaul]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
The Israelis are different. They're brittle, not used to this (at all), accustomed to getting their way whatever happens (the analogy is like the worldview of a spoiled child), and are unlikely to be able to tolerate being seriously at war for very long at all. How the Israeli government will respond is anyone's guess.

Is that from your personal experience? Have you been to Israel and/or got to know any Israelis personally and spent time with them to draw these conclusions? Or maybe it was Scott "hey look at me, I know everything" Ritter made you believe that? Who made you an expert on the Israelis?

[Bill Ryan]

Larry Johnson's analysis: 14 minutes, published an hour ago.

Iran strikes back. What will Israel do next?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_oN7OMn1BB8

The summary on his blog:

• https://sonar21.com/iran-strikes-bac...israel-do-next

My key take away, if you don’t have time to watch, is that today’s strike was a symbolic warning. Iran only used a minuscule portion of its capabilities. Iran’s UN Ambassador issued a statement that stated today’s action was in response to the attack two weeks ago in Damascus on Iran’s Embassy Annex.

If Israel “takes its medicine” and does not respond then Iran plans no further action. However, If Israel decides to attack Iranian interests again, especially inside Iran, the IRGC is prepared to significantly increase the scale of the next attack.

Here is the bottom line — Iran can fire an enormous number of drones, rockets and missiles that will overwhelm Israel’s air defense system. Today was just a warning. We’ll find out if Israel paid attention.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by holcaul (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
The Israelis are different. They're brittle, not used to this (at all), accustomed to getting their way whatever happens (the analogy is like the worldview of a spoiled child), and are unlikely to be able to tolerate being seriously at war for very long at all. How the Israeli government will respond is anyone's guess.

Is that from your personal experience? Have you been to Israel and/or got to know any Israelis personally and spent time with them to draw these conclusions? Or maybe it was Scott "hey look at me, I know everything" Ritter made you believe that? Who made you an expert on the Israelis?

Many thanks — and of course I'm no Israeli expert. (I know far more about Russia than Israel, for sure, and no, I've never been to Israel personally.) What I offered was my opinion based on quite a large number of news articles from many sources that I've been following closely for months.

We may quite soon know whether or not I was anywhere close. I'm not looking for an argument (or a fight! ), and I'd welcome your own much more experienced opinion. But I'm also happy to enlarge on my own views if anyone feels they may be of any value.

[shaberon]

Posted by holcaul (here)
Who made you an expert on the Israelis?

That's easy. We give them money and "stuff". Who just defended the occupation? U. S. and U. K.

They're not entitled to an opinion.

Russia however has defended invasions from multiple empires and rebuilt itself from egregious losses of 30 million people and the destruction of Moscow.

Israel's own newspaper already admitted defeat.

I'm not sure there is an "expert" level of this. It's all a matter of time.

I'm personally not spending time with anyone to see how they have enjoyed leeching my taxes since before my whole life.

Did you have a counterpoint to show how tough Israel happens to be when fighting a peer rival? 2006 probably isn't the best example.

[jagman]

I agree about the Russians Bill. They are tough has nails! Most people don't know who the Russian people are? They decended from the Scythians .I'm not sure I spelled that right. But look them up. Total badasses! But Israel does have nukes and if it looks bad for them they could possibly launch??? Oh what a situation we have ourselves in. I'm not saying who's right or wrong here. Everyone knows Iran is a **** disturber, and Israel has a chip on their shoulder. The whole situation is a giant **** sandwich and it looks like we are all going to take a bite. I pray for peace!

[holcaul]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by holcaul (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
The Israelis are different. They're brittle, not used to this (at all), accustomed to getting their way whatever happens (the analogy is like the worldview of a spoiled child), and are unlikely to be able to tolerate being seriously at war for very long at all. How the Israeli government will respond is anyone's guess.

Is that from your personal experience? Have you been to Israel and/or got to know any Israelis personally and spent time with them to draw these conclusions? Or maybe it was Scott "hey look at me, I know everything" Ritter made you believe that? Who made you an expert on the Israelis?

Many thanks — and of course I'm no Israeli expert. (I know far more about Russia than Israel, for sure, and no, I've never been to Israel personally.) What I offered was my opinion based on quite a large number of news articles from many sources that I've been following closely for months.

We may quite soon know whether or not I was anywhere close. I'm not looking for an argument (or a fight! ), and I'd welcome your own much more experienced opinion. But I'm also happy to enlarge on my own views if anyone feels they may be of any value.

I would appreciate if you and everyone else on this forum stopped referring to the "Israeli" side involved in the Middle Eastern conflict as "Israelis this" and "Israelis that". "Israelis" means the people who live in Israel, they don't make decisions. They did not make the decision to let Hamas murder and kidnap Israelis on October 7th, they did not make the decision to bomb the **** out of Gaza and create an enormous humanitarian crisis while returning almost no Israeli prisoners after 6 months. Israeli ruling elite did that. These people answer to no one besides their psychopathic overlords who sit in London City.

The vast majority of Israeli citizens are fed up with what the Israeli government is doing, myself included.

I would not call Al Jazeera a very reliable source of information. Or ex-CIA analysts for that matter.

Saying Israelis Iranians, Russians, or Ukrainians is playing into the psychopathic elite's hands and fulfilling their plans to pit us against each other.

I thought this forum was all about uniting against the real enemy, the satanic Anglo-Saxon elites that sit in London and are trying their best to depop us so that, their masters, Anunaki can comfortably return to rule over us.

[shaberon]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
If this is correct, that can only mean a huge sudden expenditure of Patriot Missiles, the kind of thing we saw last year when Ukraine launched every missile it had to prevent the Patriot battery itself being destroyed by a single Russian Kinzhal hypersonic missile — which it was.

Wasn't it all airborne defense? I think all the Patriots are in the Gulf monarchies.

Either way, what can now happen is a bunch of cheap drones with nerf footballs for weapons can be launched, and, two air forces will take off to fight them. I don't have any additional details, it could be that every single slow-moving drone was shot down, but it wasn't by bullets. In the 2023 UFO shootdowns they were still using Sidewinders from the 1950s. There was one miss.

The Anglos can be milked for $1B a day very easily.

They can hit a lot of stuff easily, and for what they can't, the Iron Dome is worthless. Good to know.

Neither the Patriot nor Iron Dome are all that effective. In practice they seem to deliver 60-80% interception, but, if newer missiles give them the dodge, there you go.

I smell the blood of an aircraft carrier. Ironically, it is named for Eisenhower, the guy who said you needed to watch not necessarily the military industry, but, someone making executive decisions at a strategic level to drive its business.

Let's see what they try to do with it or if they can.

It's also a little ironic that while committing Genocide, you would expect protection for committing an act of war against foreign territory, which clearly has legal recourse consisting of attacks. Or, perhaps, one attack. I could agree that one attack is proportionate to one attack on their territory. Especially the base of origin.

[norman]

Posted by holcaul (here)

. . . I thought this forum was all about uniting against the real enemy, the satanic Anglo-Saxon elites that sit in London and are trying their best to depop us. . .

If what you mean is that the big issue is a vertical problem not a horizontal problem, I'm right with you.

[shaberon]

Posted by holcaul (here)
I thought this forum was all about uniting against the real enemy, the satanic Anglo-Saxon elites that sit in London and are trying their best to depop us so that, their masters, Anunaki can comfortably return to rule over us.

It is, except for the Anunaki.

There are plenty of posts that differentiate Likud from Neuterei Karta. And, we are trying to take into consideration that the mass of the immigration was manipulated out of Ukraine. Moreover, the main hand stirring the pot lives around London.


Iranian is a culture.

Russian is a culture.

Israeli is not.

American is not.


I, personally, have adopted the usage "Zion" from the Arabs, which, I have tried to suggest in order to indicate Anglo-Israeli Fascist Capitalists that do not really represent us. I can't quite get the forum and the news to follow the same convention, but, I'll suggest it again.

[Ravenlocke]

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🇮🇷⚔️🇮🇱Dramatic footage of the sky over Israel filled with air defense missiles, none of which are able to prevent the arrival of four Iranian hypersonic warheads.

Iron Dome will henceforth be called Iron Sieve.

The Kheibar missile has a hypersonic glide vehicle warhead which separates from the main missile body, then uses a rocket motor and fins to accelerate and maneuver in the terminal phase.

Israel has no means to stop it.

slavyangrad


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