The Earth is encompassed in a Magnetic Vortex: 2024? No, 1693 A.D.

[Neptune7]

"At the speed of light, or Event Horizon, all time blends back together in a single instant--thus there would be no such thing."

That makes no sense to me if you mean: '...no such thing...(as time)'. I see Michio Kaku saying that time does not exist. This appears to me to be a misunderstanding of the simultaneous Infinite & Finite character of all time spans.


"..Yoga says is that the Mind creates and destroys the cosmos every instant. Because this process is removable, therefor, Yoga is able to claim an additional or Transcendent view, which does not seem likely to happen, following the (later?) Greek adherence to Intellect."

THAT makes sense. In our current world, we have limited ourselves, falsely, to Finiteness. Could the 'removableness' you reference simply be the recognition and grokking of Infiniteness?


"Platonic Solids show the evolution of the Elements from stillness or darkness, from which, in the western or Alchemical language, a perfected compound or Quintessence is to be extracted. This, I would say, is their answer to Transcendence."

I think we are saying the same thing. When the West limited itself to Finiteness, we lost the Philosopher's Stone. When you recover simultaneous Infiniteness & Finiteness, you recover the Stone, or Aether, and the Solids are revealed as mere relationships between the prima material.


"India can also be differentiated by being resistant to the following:

a) wheat, which had spread eastward from Anatolia over thousands of years
b) writing
c) monuments"

I love that you include wheat in that. What are the consequences, to you, of i) not being resistant to wheat, and ii) being resistant to wheat? I cut myself of from all grass grains a long time ago.


"As you can probably tell, I am going to claim that Sanskrit is Immaculate, to an ancient time, and then I am going to deny that this is as ancient as the "oldest writings"."

Didn't follow you there.


"Immortality in a state of Liberation from sin and sorrow
Moreover, it specifically says its Masters have already achieved this."

That is exactly my own personal experience. Can you provide a like to 'it'?


"And then in the cutting edge sense, we get the observation that Plasma, a sun-like material, really is the main vehicle of health and consciousness. This is like a huge bubble of the Unknown from then to now that is going to collapse."

Edge theory is removing the last Jenga block holding it up


Thank you for your very well thought out comments.

N7

[Jaak]

Posted by Kindred (here)
Back in about Oct 2010, before I joined PA, I had a Profound Experience in the form of an early awakening at 4 am where I had a DIRECTIVE to write the following piece. I don't/won't/can't say where this DIRECTIVE came from, but it consumed me for about a half hour. It became the focus of my VERY FIRST POSTING on PA, and this thread prompts me to repost it here. I will also provide a 'rendering' that I created a number of years back relative to this DIRECTIVE in regards to this question of duality, and particularly with the idea of masculine and feminine energy.
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When thinking about The Beginning… it always had to BE.

No Beginning. No End.

Infinite. All Encompassing.

How IS it to BE?

By OPPOSITES…

INFINITE, PURE OPPOSITES…

ZERO (0)… and, ONE (1)

A Most Basic Binary Construct

It is a flow of energy… contained, immaculate.

ZERO… as an INFINITE VOID

ONE (Singularity)… INFINITE, also… but… there is a bias.

ONE comprised of TWO Parts, to Create a Flow Of Energy, Within Itself.

LOVE – FEARLESSLY EXPANDING INTO THE VOID, CREATING ALL, EMBRACING ALL, EXPERIENCING ALL…

FEAR – RETREATING , FLOWING BACK INTO LOVE, Comforted Within Love BUT, at a lesser degree.

Creating an Offset, a Bias, Towards INFINITE EXISTENCE WITHIN & WITHOUT the VOID.

This Cycle is Most Base… All EXISTENCE is Of This

Each ONE, is the Same as All Others

Each at their own energy state, within this Most Basic Cycle of Energy

FEMININE Defines this Pure LOVE, Radiating Into the VOID, CREATING ALL

MASCULINE, Emanating from the FEMININE, Defines the FEAR of the VOID, circling and seeking Comfort Within the Sphere of the FEMININE

And, Through the Energy of the FEMININE, the MASCULINE finds LOVE, And, TOGETHER, CREATE MORE LOVE (LIFE) THAN EACH INDIVIDUALLY.

Throughout ALL Eternity
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Now, the rendering of this concept in terms of a Magnetic Vortex (Torus):



Note that the Arrows represent the Spirit Force, and the Tetrahedrons represent the Body Force. (Seth, by Jane Roberts states that there is a 'Body Consciousness' and a separate Spirit Consciousness - It is our Spirit that provides the 'Guidance' to the Body, and without the Spirit, the Body can no longer continue.)

The highlighted portion of each Force being the Active 'direction'.

But, Know that Each of us carry Both Feminine And Masculine Energy. However, at this 'level' of physical manifestation, the separation / duality is quite strong, thus the two distinct sexes.

Now, in regards to the 'magnetic vortex', it is to be noted that Ed Leekskalen (Coral Castle) pointed out that what we call North and South magnetic poles and which is postulated to be One Force with a Polarity, are really INDIVIDUAL flows of magnetic force, and these forces can be unequal in strength.

M.T. Keshe, an Iranian born Jewish physicist, had postulated that ALL the 'particles' that have been postulated to form all matter, were actually VARIATIONS of THREE magnetic poles (either 1 North and 2 South, or 2 North and 1 South), all with specific 'spins' that cause the differentiation between the 'particles' that we postulate as existing.

But, TRULY, ALL there IS, is INFINITE CONSCIOUSNESS...
and that CONSCIOUSNESS is rooted in LOVE.

In Unity, Peace and LOVE

I love this. Reached to similar conlusions after my enlightenment experience that spirit is the double helix piercing through every toroidal magnetic field perpendicularly of its equator. Physical realm is outside layer of magnetic field / torus and spiritual is what moves through its center / double-helix. From double helix you get spiral and a torus. All connected. Just like in the cycles of the universe.
That drawing is very nice.
Also like you, I joined the forum to share my findings. https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...f-the-universe
Im a bit doubtful about Keshe but i wont cry if im proven wrong .
Thans for this.

[Jim_Duyer]

Shaberon - Thanks for your comments. I have one problem - with this portion:

[Firstly, what we call Quantum Physics is derived from Optics. The study of light resulted in the observation that energy is "quantized", i. e., occurs in discrete packets, like a digital clock that "blinks" rather than an analog clock which "sweeps".] Light is a wave, like sound, radio-waves, etc, with a frequency and it has waves - so no need to get into Quantum anything in respect to light waves. Simple observation will suffice. Energy, on the other hand, which can be light but does not have to be, does not seem to be restricted to one "form". It can pulse, or it can, subject to the extent of its source of power, manifest in a solid stream. Something as simple as water can express energy or force - the water comes in a solid stream but the force behind it, while representing its energy potential, may simply be the result of gravity or heat.

[Because the smallest unit of energy has a definition, that means distance and time also have certain minimums--smaller than this, nothing can be observed, or, "time"--a subjective way to measure motion--can only occur in such a quantized manner.] Time can measure motion, true - but it can also measure an object or mass at rest. Time does not come in waves like light - else we would have glitches in the matrix. We don't know the smallest unit of energy (yet) and so we can't yet define it. Distance, by it's definition, has a minimum and a maximum - time does not have a maximum. It's minimum exists, and can be measured, but we don't yet have the ability to continue that measurement down to a point where we can name it safely.

[At the speed of light, or Event Horizon, all time blends back together in a single instant--thus there would be no such thing.] We don't know that the speed of light does any such thing. That is simply conjecture, or wild-ass quessing. Quantum physics was invented to explain things that our scientists could not and can not explain. It would perhaps be time better spent if they would take it one step at a time, and explain it when they can reproduce it - since "science' consists of repeatable and falsifiable evidence. Quantum wizards earn prizes for giving us their wild ass opinions. It would perhaps be better to simply admit that Einstein's theories are not complete, not correct, and not yet validated - Quantum was, after all, invented to explain the theories of Einstein that could not be scientifically proven. Old School physics doctorates (and I personally know two of them) disdain Quantum logic, and explain that Einstein (or rather his wife) was only able to balance his equations by employing zero to balance them out.

[Neptune7]

Posted by Kindred (here)
M.T. Keshe, an Iranian born Jewish physicist, had postulated that ALL the 'particles' that have been postulated to form all matter, were actually VARIATIONS of THREE magnetic poles (either 1 North and 2 South, or 2 North and 1 South), all with specific 'spins' that cause the differentiation between the 'particles' that we postulate as existing.

That is very interesting. Thanks for posting that quote. It resonates very much with how I currently believe Edge theory Freezes the Aether into Matter.

N7

[shaberon]

Posted by Neptune7 (here)
"At the speed of light, or Event Horizon, all time blends back together in a single instant--thus there would be no such thing."

That makes no sense to me if you mean: '...no such thing...(as time)'.

That one is Time Dilation from General Relativity.

At the speed of light, there is no time; or, a photon experiences no time. This is of course a mathematical postulate from Einstein. If you were at the Event Horizon, all events in the universe would appear simultaneously. That is what is physically predicted--does it mean much to me, if I am not about to travel at that speed?

"..Yoga says is that the Mind creates and destroys the cosmos every instant. Because this process is removable, therefor, Yoga is able to claim an additional or Transcendent view, which does not seem likely to happen, following the (later?) Greek adherence to Intellect."

THAT makes sense. In our current world, we have limited ourselves, falsely, to Finiteness. Could the 'removableness' you reference simply be the recognition and grokking of Infiniteness?

I might say it is the recognition of flatlining.

Most yogas aim for a Complete Stoppage of Mental Formations.

Anyone could cultivate Inner Silence, and yet not be the same thing. Let's say it could be subjectively experienced in different states. With Yoga, you are then going to involve operations on the Life Force. This is not really a big secret, but, you have to feel there is such a thing and be interested in it.

For my personal answer, this is what we use as a dividing line--until you have some sensitivity and control of Life Force, you are in a beginner stage. This part, I would say, is what is nearly identical to Orthodox Hesychasm, or, what looks like a Hesiodic and Pythagorean exercise starting from the Elements. I have no problem saying at this level, we are all pretty close.

Because I know and have personally experienced a more advanced use of Life Force, I am in a position to say that the advanced portions of Yoga are what they say they are.

Our problem is the "post-meditation phase" where we slip back into the realm of Creation.

Therefor, all our techniques and discussions are not really about the sublime and exalted state, itself, but how to Enter and Exit.

Whatever you tell yourself, the process is highly responsive to it. For instance, if I admire Intellect too much, then it just keeps interposing itself and nothing happens. It is easy to block or twist.

What are the consequences, to you, of i) not being resistant to wheat, and ii) being resistant to wheat? I cut myself of from all grass grains a long time ago.

The sense of this is "resistant to growing it".

It is readable in the fossil records.

India cultivated native wild rice, until, starting around 3,000 B. C. E. in the Gangetic Doab, they imported "Japonica" rice, which is a domesticated variety that is really from China.

It is entirely possible that what we call "IVC Culture" was based on wheat granaries, and, what happened is, Rice Culture came in under it and replaced it, and so that style of architecture was no longer needed.

This is clear from the Rg Veda, which does not mention "wheat", but requires rice balls for its practices.

I don't recall the *reasons* why they thought wheat ought not to be consumed, but so far it has only been found to trickle back in to Indian agriculture in the post-Vedic period.

"As you can probably tell, I am going to claim that Sanskrit is Immaculate, to an ancient time, and then I am going to deny that this is as ancient as the "oldest writings"."

Didn't follow you there.

Sanskrit was not written. One can find a whole heap of languages with written attestations pushing the 3,000 B. C. E. era. Most of those are relics and fragments; the Sanskrit tape recorder is however as useful to me today as it was in the "x" time.

The oldest written Sanskrit is actually from Aleppo, Syria, by or before 1,330 B. C. E..

"Immortality in a state of Liberation from sin and sorrow
Moreover, it specifically says its Masters have already achieved this."

That is exactly my own personal experience. Can you provide a like to 'it'?

The interesting thing about the Rg Veda is that it is 100% success stories. Some of it is all triumph, and then yes, there are parts with various problems, and these all get fixed. There is nothing in here about hell, there are not threats or warnings levelled against people, and in fact it is all about testifying to the real works of deities and the success of practitioners.


I used that first line because it is also what I learned from an Orthodox Father as to what the direction or results of his practice were supposed to be.

Now, if we are going forward with a value similar enough that we are not antagonistic to each other, I would like to do the Veda a favor by showing what it appears to promote. This is a collection of over 1,000 hymns by more than 300 people. It is not in order. That is, it is not in a sequential or linear order like a "normal book". It has something like that, except it is mostly backwards, and arranged more like Raindrops.

The arrangement seems to be to draw attention to Sunashepa. Look how close he is to the beginning of what is now Book One:


Madhucchandas VaiSvAmitra
JetA MAdhucchandas
MedhAtithi KANva
SunahSepa AjIgarti later DevarAta VaiSvAmitra 24-30
HiraNyastUpa ANgiras


and notice this same group is copied like a "nucleus" at the beginning of Book Nine:


Madhucchandas VaiSvAmitra
MedhAtithi KANva
SunahSepa AjIgarti
HiraNyastUpa ANgiras


Does this make sense?

Most reviewers find Sunashepa very poignant about the spiritual concept of Liberation from Sin. It is noted that some of the hymns only carry a concept like Illumination, or, i. e. the Sun to reveal reality, but here we are adding a type of mission.

There are a couple of different versions of the story of Sunashepa, but, roughly put, he was sold as a substitute for Human Sacrifice. He is taken and bound to The Post. Then he enters this cathartic state and experiences an epiphany of polytheistic deities, who release him.

The "simple" format just gives you an attempt at translation, without the supporting information, but, it puts the whole hymn on one page so it is easy to read. So you can go to:

I.24


and just hit "next" up to 30.

That answers the first part.


As to the second, there are a lot of generic statements about "men of old" and their success. Being a fairly new student, I have not yet memorized the location of a more precise statement. I am working on that. What has recently struck me however is an important theological view. It does not exactly match anything I have seen before. What this concerns is the deity:


Yama


who is the son of:


the aggregate of humanity.

We are told that Yama discovered the Path. The actual first men in the world were ignorant. Yama discovered and perfected Immortality. That makes him the first, or, King of Pitrs (Fathers). This also means that "the Pitrs" do *not* mean "your ancestors"--it refers to whose who successfully followed the Path.

There are a few other ways of expressing this and a few specifically-named individuals, but, this is all new to me, because, so far, no one has studied it. They've been asking other questions that are not really relevant. The whole thing is about what we just discussed.

[Kindred]

Here are some short videos on Dr. Walter Russell's cosmological theories that seem to meld perfectly with the subject matter of the OP. In finding these pieces, I've found that there are a LOT of videos on this individual's discoveries.. far too many to post. These are a good starting point.

Enjoy!

10 min:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=weyCgUoYPHU

10 min - Walter Russell's theories and their implications for the periodic table of elements

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=JKFTbREbRAQ

Terrance Howard's interview with Joe Rogan - a short succinct video short with great graphics - 60 sec

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=L-_eKRxRm-c

In Unity, Peace and LOVE

[shaberon]

Posted by Jim_Duyer (here)
Shaberon - Thanks for your comments. I have one problem - with this portion:

[Firstly, what we call Quantum Physics is derived from Optics. The study of light resulted in the observation that energy is "quantized", i. e., occurs in discrete packets, like a digital clock that "blinks" rather than an analog clock which "sweeps".] Light is a wave, like sound, radio-waves, etc, with a frequency and it has waves - so no need to get into Quantum anything in respect to light waves. Simple observation will suffice. Energy, on the other hand, which can be light but does not have to be, does not seem to be restricted to one "form". It can pulse, or it can, subject to the extent of its source of power, manifest in a solid stream. Something as simple as water can express energy or force - the water comes in a solid stream but the force behind it, while representing its energy potential, may simply be the result of gravity or heat.


We don't know the smallest unit of energy (yet) and so we can't yet define it. Distance, by it's definition, has a minimum and a maximum - time does not have a maximum. It's minimum exists, and can be measured, but we don't yet have the ability to continue that measurement down to a point where we can name it safely.

The issue here is that wave mechanics do not explain the observed properties of Blackbody Radiation:

This part of the story of radiation was first explained by James Clerk Maxwell via wave theory but the predicted and actual intensity vs. frequency curves did not go together right. At higher frequencies classical physics predicted that more and more energy would be radiated from the body until the energy became infinite. This broke the first law of thermodynamics which is a fundamental part of all physics. This was called the ultraviolet catastrophe.

When it was realised that classical physics did not work for blackbody radiation, the German physicist Max Planck explained their relationship by saying that there are individual things (he did not try to guess what kind of things) that vibrate, each at its frequency. Each wave of each frequency has its special energy level. A single x-ray is very high photon energy and can go right through the human body.

The idea that a unit of light at a given frequency always has the same energy, the idea that there is a quantum of energy for each unit of light at a given frequency, became the doorway into quantum mechanics, so the idea of a blackbody is something that is basic to modern physics. It shows up in discussions of a wide variety of physics topics having to do with energies and frequencies.

As for the units, Distance and the others are mutually defined with minimums on the Planck scale:

The Planck length is the smallest unit of length. It is calculated from three physical constants: the speed of light, the Planck constant, and the gravitational constant. The length was established as a way to simplify many of the more fundamental equations — if equations are written in Planck units, you can do away with many physical constants and not have to worry about dimensions. The Planck length does not have any precise physical significance, and it is a common misconception that it is the inherent “pixel size” or smallest possible length of the universe. If a length smaller than this is used in any measurement, then it has a chance of being wrong due to quantum uncertainty.

The speed of light is also one Planck length per Planck time.

The Planck time is the length of time at which no smaller meaningful length can be validly measured due to the indeterminacy expressed in Werner Heisenberg's uncertainty principle. Theoretically, this is the shortest time measurement that is possible. Planck time is roughly 10−43 seconds. However, to date, the smallest time interval that was measured was 10−21 seconds, a "zeptosecond."

It shows that one can never pin down things like P (momentum) and X (location) exactly. As a result, we cannot pin down a time any better than we can pin down a place or a momentum. We get closer and closer and then we reach the "Planck time."

The term Planck scale refers to quantities of space, time, energy and other units that are similar in magnitude to corresponding Planck units. This region may be characterized by particle energies of around 1019 GeV or 109 J, time intervals of around 5×10−44 s and lengths of around 10−35 m (approximately the energy-equivalent of the Planck mass, the Planck time and the Planck length, respectively). At the Planck scale, the predictions of the Standard Model, quantum field theory and general relativity are not expected to apply, and quantum effects of gravity are expected to dominate.

Anything smaller is unknown, is not predictable or subject to anything thought of as laws.

As for the other part about light and "all time", yes, there is only a Relativistic prediction for an Event Horizon. As to whether we can "see" it, or explain it some other way, I am not sure.


An observable quantum effect is respiration, which is the same for microbes as mammals. In order for cells to use oxygen, they have to "quantum electron tunnel" it, that is, to violate the electric lock that would be placed by "known forces".

Metaphysically I tend to see this as One Existence that fills All Space and has Permanent Duration, which, perhaps, has a "maximum of One". The "other side" of existence is No Time.

These are Saguna and Nirguna Brahman in our philosophy.

What we are able to measure as divisions, so to speak, of it, are due to the process like building the Platonic Solids. A primarily mental emanation that produces experience. In other words, time being more like "sub-divisions of one", than an everlasting chain of individual instants.

[Jaak]

¨Uncovering missing secrets of magnetism¨ by Ken Wheeler . 236 pages.
https://ia902209.us.archive.org/32/i...tism1small.pdf

[Neptune7]

Posted by Jaak (here)
¨Uncovering missing secrets of magnetism¨ by Ken Wheeler . 236 pages.
https://ia902209.us.archive.org/32/i...tism1small.pdf

Thank you very much! I am going to read this thoroughly before responding.

[Kindred]

This is today's Suspicious Observer's AM posting... at 2 min in, he brings up an article that discusses the influence of Earth's magnetic field on the human mind... and Vice-versa. less than 3 min

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=6Szk_7rPK3I

In Unity Peace and LOVE

[Jim_Duyer]

Posted by Kindred (here)
This is today's Suspicious Observer's AM posting... at 2 min in, he brings up an article that discusses the influence of Earth's magnetic field on the human mind... and Vice-versa. less than 3 min

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=6Szk_7rPK3I

In Unity Peace and LOVE

Thank you - very interesting.

[Neptune7]

The paper referenced int the Suspicious Observed video is great, in my opinion. Thanks for posting it Kindred! Here is a link to the paper and the Abstract:

"Our science found that not only does the magnetic field of the Earth influence us (normal embryo development was found to be impossible without earth’s magnetic field), we influence the magnetic field of the earth. It was found that our positive emotions increase Earth’s magnetic field, while our negative emotions deplete Earth‘s magnetic field. And we are emotional because we are material bodies and auras, which I found to be emotionally sensitive - brighter at positive emotions and dimmer at negative emotions (“aura” means “light” in Hebrew). Since we claim to be in high Spirit when experiencing positive emotions and we claim to be in low spirit when experiencing negative emotions, I concluded that the aura must be our emotional Spirit. Then I found that the ancient Jewish Cabala was teaching to high priest that our auras are our Spirits. After lifelong studies of the aura (Spirit), I found that it is weak nonlinear electromagnetic field (NEMF). Measurements showed that: positive emotions make the aura (Spirit) NEMF spin clockwise, suck energy, and add it to Earth’s NEMF, while negative emotions drain Earth’s NEMF. This makes our aura (Spirit) NEMF integrated with Earth’s NEMF. Considering the importance of Earth’s magnetic field, I question: 1/ should we try to create a colony on Mars, if Mars does not have magnetic field; 2/ shouldn’t we try to create magnetic field on our space station."

[Jim_Duyer]

Posted by Neptune7 (here)
The paper referenced int the Suspicious Observed video is great, in my opinion. Thanks for posting it Kindred! Here is a link to the paper and the Abstract:

"Our science found that not only does the magnetic field of the Earth influence us (normal embryo development was found to be impossible without earth’s magnetic field), we influence the magnetic field of the earth. It was found that our positive emotions increase Earth’s magnetic field, while our negative emotions deplete Earth‘s magnetic field. And we are emotional because we are material bodies and auras, which I found to be emotionally sensitive - brighter at positive emotions and dimmer at negative emotions (“aura” means “light” in Hebrew). Since we claim to be in high Spirit when experiencing positive emotions and we claim to be in low spirit when experiencing negative emotions, I concluded that the aura must be our emotional Spirit. Then I found that the ancient Jewish Cabala was teaching to high priest that our auras are our Spirits. After lifelong studies of the aura (Spirit), I found that it is weak nonlinear electromagnetic field (NEMF). Measurements showed that: positive emotions make the aura (Spirit) NEMF spin clockwise, suck energy, and add it to Earth’s NEMF, while negative emotions drain Earth’s NEMF. This makes our aura (Spirit) NEMF integrated with Earth’s NEMF. Considering the importance of Earth’s magnetic field, I question: 1/ should we try to create a colony on Mars, if Mars does not have magnetic field; 2/ shouldn’t we try to create magnetic field on our space station."

Both of those are good questions, since it seems that a magnetic field is necessary. I wonder if Mars has any native magnetic field, however weak? But surrounding a colony or the habitation for a colony with the required magnetic field would not be that difficult.

[Kindred]

Another piece from SO on an individual's energy field... all great stuff! 3 min

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=OMiU6B6fjGc

In Unity, Peace and LOVE

[Denise/Dizi]

Just an observation..

I believe years ago, I found an interview that someone posted on the internet, in which they claimed an alien grey was telling humans that they made a deal with humans to exchange things for "Lodestone"... And at the time, humans didn't see any useful purpose for such a thing in mass, so they agreed to give it away, yet later came to regret it... But the et highly prized these special magnets...

I am not sure if it still exists online, or even where I found it...

[Kindred]

Posted by Jim_Duyer (here)
Both of those are good questions, since it seems that a magnetic field is necessary. I wonder if Mars has any native magnetic field, however weak? But surrounding a colony or the habitation for a colony with the required magnetic field would not be that difficult.

I will posit that the human body, and the Spirit that CREATES it, IS the Ultimate 'technology' in this physical universe based on Probabilities. As such, it can be seen in the Spiritual statement "As above, so below"... EVERYTHING in this universe that We Create with our Thoughts, Beliefs and Expectations, Follows that basic form.

My 'directed' narrative brings this concept forward with the line; "ONE comprised of TWO Parts, to Create a Flow Of Energy, Within Itself."

Think of these 'two parts' as the North and South magnetic FLOWS - Sexes - that, Together CREATE the Probability of Continued Existence within the duality-based universe.

I will further posit that Magnetism IS the Core Force behind ALL existence - at least in this particular physical universe... but, as we know, electrical field gradients are a Product of this Flow of Magnetic Force. Ed Leeskalin (sp) (and others) have stated that this Magnetic Flow is what We call 'Current'.. i.e.; that the 'flow of electricity is Actually the Flow of Magnetic Current.

In terms of Mars, yes, I believe it does as there have been recent reports of observations of polar auroras occurring during these recent solar eruptions. Moreover, if you read Thiaoouba, they state that there was life on Mars over a million years ago... but very limited. There was a 'mongol' race along with some flora and fauna, but they were not very 'advanced' technically, but they had progressed Spiritually. The planet cooled down, and the life perished a bit over a million years ago.

Always a Wonder, isn't it?

In Unity, Peace and LOVE

[Jim_Duyer]

Posted by Denise/Dizi (here)
Just an observation..

I believe years ago, I found an interview that someone posted on the internet, in which they claimed an alien grey was telling humans that they made a deal with humans to exchange things for "Lodestone"... And at the time, humans didn't see any useful purpose for such a thing in mass, so they agreed to give it away, yet later came to regret it... But the et highly prized these special magnets...

I am not sure if it still exists online, or even where I found it...

This begs two questions:

Why did both the Maya and the Aztecs collect liquid mercury into large pools under the levels of their temples? And also under the Pyramids in Egypt, and the associated cinnabar red that many very early native tribes from Europe to Africa paint themselves?

And - Why does liquid mercury start spinning in a magnetic field?

When we know the answer to these we will have another important part of the grand puzzle.

[shaberon]

Posted by Jim_Duyer (here)
Why did both the Maya and the Aztecs collect liquid mercury into large pools under the levels of their temples? And also under the Pyramids in Egypt, and the associated cinnabar red that many very early native tribes from Europe to Africa paint themselves?

Those are good questions.

Moreover, sites like Teotihuacan are something like a "giant thermometer", having something like a 100' shaft of mercury, with an associated pool.

I have no clue what the Aztecs were doing, and they are relatively late.


But let's not underestimate Cinnabar:


The primary prehistoric use of the mineral was grinding it to create vermillion, and its earliest known use for this purpose is at the Neolithic site of Çatalhöyük in Turkey (7000-8000 BC), where wall paintings included cinnabar's vermillion.


Here is where it gets interesting. First, I was in the process of disproving an Egyptian city being named for the Indian horse, because its original name was something else, related to:


syenite: syenite (English) Origin & history Borrowing from Latin Syēnītēs‎, from Syēnē‎ ("Aswan"), because it was anciently quarried there.


Alright. The older name perhaps may be significant, since it appears to have been used to determine the curvature of the earth:


At Syene, the Sun is at the zenith at noon, while at Alexandria it is not exactly overhead.



In this area, close to 3,000 B. C. E., you find the development of writing, as well as temples aligned to stars, and cinnabar and other materials traded internationally and by sea. I take that as a very significant marker, and tend to view conclusions drawn from any earlier sources as speculative. That does not mean it was named for, or colonized by, India, but it does mean we can make a fairly continuous record, because the writings and evidence are pretty clearly understandable as of today.


It gets more interesting, when the most valuable substance, Lapis Lazuli, can be found taken to Egypt from Balochistan. Whatever the Egyptians were doing, this was worth more than gold to them. Look at any pharaonic headdress.

Then if I ask India, what do we get?



Hiṅgūla (हिङ्गूल, “cinnabar”)

Hinglāj is situated at the extremity of the range of mountains in Beluchisthan called by the name of Hiṅgulā, about 20 miles or a day’s journey from the sea-coast, on the bank of the Aghor or Hiṅgulā or Hingol river near its mouth.


This is a terribly rugged, remote area, enshrining a goddess who is even honored by the Muslims today.

It was the source of fire for the Mahaprasad or "great cooking" in Orissa around the year 500, continuous ever since.

Hingula Mata is effectively the western edge of ancient India, very significant to its own internal history, in a way that does not seem appropriate for a tiny cave with a three foot opening.

Well, if anyone believes in chakras, this happens to be the very first chakra.

It is said this is where the top of Sati's head fell, with her Vermillion Tika. Everything about "other chakras" can only be subsequent to this.


This idea cannot be dated in the way Egyptian writings are. It is not part of the Veda, but, implied by relationship or in consequence. So it may have come into effect ca. 1,000 B. C. E.. I cannot say much about the use of cinnabar in drugs; but, yes, Mercury in general is a very occult principle.

At least in India, cinnabar or vermillion has been hardwired into esoteric goddesses from the ancient roots until now. I am not sure of any other cultures that may have maintained any similarity to this.

[Sunny-side-up]

Hello all, hope all is going great for you and yours

TIME:
If you see and feel that reality is an allusion and we are in an Hologram, where dose time fit in?

One piece of a Hologram contains all the piece's and so no need for time in a hologram.

Time is a human construct to help us move into the hologram, helps us anchor a point of reference.

We would not be able to build within the hologram if we had no reference!

You see the main restriction, problem for humans is we have become to solid in our ways, because of the time we have created.

This is where meditation and mind releasing substances help, they release the anchor.

Alan

[Jim_Duyer]

Posted by shaberon (here)

Posted by Jim_Duyer (here)
Why did both the Maya and the Aztecs collect liquid mercury into large pools under the levels of their temples? And also under the Pyramids in Egypt, and the associated cinnabar red that many very early native tribes from Europe to Africa paint themselves?

Those are good questions.

Moreover, sites like Teotihuacan are something like a "giant thermometer", having something like a 100' shaft of mercury, with an associated pool.

I have no clue what the Aztecs were doing, and they are relatively late.


But let's not underestimate Cinnabar:


The primary prehistoric use of the mineral was grinding it to create vermillion, and its earliest known use for this purpose is at the Neolithic site of Çatalhöyük in Turkey (7000-8000 BC), where wall paintings included cinnabar's vermillion.


Here is where it gets interesting. First, I was in the process of disproving an Egyptian city being named for the Indian horse, because its original name was something else, related to:


syenite: syenite (English) Origin & history Borrowing from Latin Syēnītēs‎, from Syēnē‎ ("Aswan"), because it was anciently quarried there.


Alright. The older name perhaps may be significant, since it appears to have been used to determine the curvature of the earth:


At Syene, the Sun is at the zenith at noon, while at Alexandria it is not exactly overhead.



In this area, close to 3,000 B. C. E., you find the development of writing, as well as temples aligned to stars, and cinnabar and other materials traded internationally and by sea. I take that as a very significant marker, and tend to view conclusions drawn from any earlier sources as speculative. That does not mean it was named for, or colonized by, India, but it does mean we can make a fairly continuous record, because the writings and evidence are pretty clearly understandable as of today.


It gets more interesting, when the most valuable substance, Lapis Lazuli, can be found taken to Egypt from Balochistan. Whatever the Egyptians were doing, this was worth more than gold to them. Look at any pharaonic headdress.

Then if I ask India, what do we get?



Hiṅgūla (हिङ्गूल, “cinnabar”)

Hinglāj is situated at the extremity of the range of mountains in Beluchisthan called by the name of Hiṅgulā, about 20 miles or a day’s journey from the sea-coast, on the bank of the Aghor or Hiṅgulā or Hingol river near its mouth.


This is a terribly rugged, remote area, enshrining a goddess who is even honored by the Muslims today.

It was the source of fire for the Mahaprasad or "great cooking" in Orissa around the year 500, continuous ever since.

Hingula Mata is effectively the western edge of ancient India, very significant to its own internal history, in a way that does not seem appropriate for a tiny cave with a three foot opening.

Well, if anyone believes in chakras, this happens to be the very first chakra.

It is said this is where the top of Sati's head fell, with her Vermillion Tika. Everything about "other chakras" can only be subsequent to this.


This idea cannot be dated in the way Egyptian writings are. It is not part of the Veda, but, implied by relationship or in consequence. So it may have come into effect ca. 1,000 B. C. E.. I cannot say much about the use of cinnabar in drugs; but, yes, Mercury in general is a very occult principle.

At least in India, cinnabar or vermillion has been hardwired into esoteric goddesses from the ancient roots until now. I am not sure of any other cultures that may have maintained any similarity to this.

Thank you. I've not been able to find the answer to mercury myself, but the various colors applied to Cro-Magnon and Neanderthals and later peoples around the world, was, I believe, in imitation of the sky gods that had come down among them - the visitors needed this ochre to protect their skin from our sun's rays since they came from a planet without a yellow sun. And yes, they should have brought their own source, but unfortunately the trip ended up being one-way and they ran out. Some of their mixed ancestors are still among us - and causing trouble world-wide even today.