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    TRUMP GUILTY!
    No words need it!!!


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    i have to believe that Trump wants this. Lets use our heads here. The real criminals going free are Hunter and Joe. Everyone knows this. Trump could have easily made a deal several years ago and said to the criminals in charge, hey guys drop all of this nonsense and Ill drop out of the race. They would have been thrilled and accommodated him.
    But no, Trump remained. He remained for a reason and allowed this to unfold to his benefit.
    I just herd that his donation page just crashed. Trump has woken up the country and the world. Lets see this play itself out. WOW!!!

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    TRUMP GUILTY!
    No words need it!!!

    I am not in anger or what's ever Bill... Now, I am happy Slovenia recognized Palestine! This is for me GOOD! Proud Slovenian!

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    Stopped viewing this thread as it became bozoncan talking to himself, came back and no surprise. TDS on full display. Will be reviewed by scholars for years when discussing the stupidity of man.
    Hi shockid... I would love to hear from others too, what is on their minds about Donald... this is not my thread, not wanting to be in this thread alone.... but, only myself is adding some stuff about this poor man, whom I do not see him, as the trustworthy and eligible to become once again the president of US... yes, this thread is generally about not liking him and about not trusting him... and about him, not to be the answer for something positive and good for humanity! I am noticing, that people are lurking in this thread... and, because I am adding mostly videos here... I do not see myself as important one or being proud about it!

    Cheers!
    But, to put it simply, if you had to choose between the lesser of two evils, which one would it be, Trump or Biden? Make a choice, no other options available (because it is unrealistic to expect RFK to win).

    It really might be the choice between a finally (!) negotiated peace in Ukraine (which Trump still wants to do directly with talks and indirectly by putting a stop to financing the Selensky regime) on one side .... and the high probability of WW3 on the other side.

    So ... wouldn't preventing WWIII make Trump despite all his shortcomings at least the lesser evil?

    Hi Open...


    I do not see WWIII will be prevented, if... because that we would want Trump on highest place....He is not so important in this way... I see him a part of those big one above too... No, he is also NOT GOOD anymore... his flexibilities and strait pointed and profound mind is out... He can be patsy to somebody stronger as him...

    Through this moments towards elections... I see a big rise of interest for RFKJr! As I said it... he will be catapulted in few months... people will see only him, to be worthy of people votes... For me, only him. He is not ideal, but he is honest one! Donald and Joe.... yes, two evil... not well in their minds, bodies .. also haven't clear and purity of the soul!

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    I do not agree with all George is saying... but he is good with explanations...

    George Conway Explains: Trump's Witness was a DISASTER, Cohen Nailed It

    So you believe that the RFK with the speech problem that is due to his ADMITTED problem of having worms in his brain, and said worms ate part of his brains, is what we should look for in a President?

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    Back to TOPIC! Yes!

    The SECRET Trump Tape He DOESN'T WANT You to Hear

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    I do believe in this Popok more than con man and pathological liar Donald!!! If this man Popok tells lies... Donald could sue him... but... till today, Donald didn't sue no one... because he is a liar! He didn't have a courage to step in-front jury to testify ... uf... anywhere in his court actions... Pretender, grifter, liar, con man, criminal and coward!
    Wait now for disclosure about Epstein and him... his friends...

    Trump CRIES OUT after Jack Smith STRIKES HIM HARD


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    DONALD TRUMP FOUND GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES IN HUSH MONEY TRIAL


    Donald and Biden.. lesser of two Dark evils...

    NOT DONALD! NOT BIDEN!

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    Agree with Kyle.. here secular video!

    MAJOR BREAKING: TRUMP GUILTY OF 34 FELONIES


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    NOT DONALD! NOT BIDEN!

    Trump’s Day Gets WORSE As Ivanka & Melania Get HUMILIATED

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    BP...

    BREAKING: TRUMP GUILTY! LIVE AT COURTHOUSE

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    Here Cuomo's talk... So if somebody robbed a bank, does he get to go home with the money... the police will arrest him and take the money that was stolen... I rest this case...

    NOT DONALD! NOT BIDEN!

    BREAKING: Chris Cuomo REACTS to the Trump Guilty verdict




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    Former Donald's employee talk.... and...

    LEAKED AUDIO: Trump Campaign Makes DEVASTATING Confession!

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    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    i have to believe that Trump wants this. Lets use our heads here. The real criminals going free are Hunter and Joe. Everyone knows this. Trump could have easily made a deal several years ago and said to the criminals in charge, hey guys drop all of this nonsense and Ill drop out of the race. They would have been thrilled and accommodated him.
    But no, Trump remained. He remained for a reason and allowed this to unfold to his benefit.
    I just herd that his donation page just crashed. Trump has woken up the country and the world. Lets see this play itself out. WOW!!!
    What you say here makes sense, and is worth consideration.

    In another place, the group that sort of coalesced around the BDAnon/BurningBush information trail, the primary spokesperson to that group has for months said that Trump will be jailed. And recently said that Trump would be assassinated in jail. He says that Trump knows this. Evidently, it's somehow a part of the Burning Bush plan. I can't for the life of myself figure out how the plan described by that person (tom dunkle) could in any way be good for humanity (and the planet, added 20240603).

    (Burning Bush, aka BB, would probably say he's the answer.)

    I've always believed that we are the answer, each of us, uniquely and en masse, trying to live from our better potential. A small kindness here, a helping hand there, large movements are comprised of small actions. I probably have more faith in humanity than most.

    Among the BurningBush information stream the number 34 is a signifier of BB. The 34 counts would point to BB.

    It's hard to speak to the validity of this information, any more than it is about so many other sources of information. I was initially turned off from it, mostly because of the crass way BDAnon and CIAnon (CIAFren) talked in the reddit threads, which are harsh almost by design.

    However, that stream of information talked about Omnicron several months before anyone else knew of it. This caught my attention, so I've continued to monitor it.

    The persecution of Trump is nothing to celebrate, in my opinion, regardless of what a person may believe about Trump. The fact that this happened the way it has indicates an utterly corrupt and broken justice system in America. The conduct of the judge is criminal. I've served jury duty many times. What happened in New York is not how it works. I'm quite saddened by this travesty.
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    From SOTN

    — An Armchair Legal Analyst

    And I say this from having watched a high-profile jury trial of a family member who was ultimately found guilty under an extremely corrupt judge and transparently fixed jury.

    The venue of that trial was very similar to the exceedingly tainted jury pool that the Greater New York City area was for the deeply unpopular Trump.

    Whenever a jury is seated from within a highly jaded venue, it’s very easy to fix and/or buy those jurors. In the New York State jurisdiction that I witnessed the obviously rigged jury, it quickly became clear how many ways there really are to carry out jury tampering.

    As a matter of historical fact, our family case even saw the father of the defendant write an open letter, a personal copy of which was sent to many key political, judicial and legal figures throughout the city and county, addressing the extraordinarily brazen jury tampering that took place. He would never have taken that unusually audacious initiative without having very strong circumstantial evidence of jury manipulation, which was quite compelling.

    Now many will say that ultra-liberal New York City is so deep blue and suffers from the very worst case of collective Trump Derangement Syndrome in the nation that the jury did not have to be bought or fixed or anything.

    My response to that is this: While the NYC jury pool is predictably Democrat, the Soros-installed legal hitmen who orchestrated and executed this complex conspiratorial plot to steal the 2024 POTUS election would never — EVER— leave to chance seating even one juror who could turn it into a hung jury.

    Not no way, not no how would those psychopathic lawfare bolsheviks not fix and/or rig the jury by any means necessary to secure a unanimous conviction of President Trump. And so they did!
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    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    i have to believe that Trump wants this. Lets use our heads here. The real criminals going free are Hunter and Joe. Everyone knows this. Trump could have easily made a deal several years ago and said to the criminals in charge, hey guys drop all of this nonsense and Ill drop out of the race. They would have been thrilled and accommodated him.
    But no, Trump remained. He remained for a reason and allowed this to unfold to his benefit.
    I just herd that his donation page just crashed. Trump has woken up the country and the world. Lets see this play itself out. WOW!!!
    If this is true, he is absolutely proving a point. This has been going on since he came down the escalator! Quite amazing and fascinating to say the least.
    The whole establishment seems to want this also.
    This recent development has surely opened the door to a whole new phase of this insanity....
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    copying here, which is rare for me in this (lately) absolutely trash-filled TDS-illustrating thread

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...ted-300k-trump

    I Just Donated $300k To Trump"

    BY TYLER DURDEN
    FRIDAY, MAY 31, 2024 - 08:10 AM
    Authored by Shaun Maguire via X



    I just donated $300k to Trump. I’m prepared to lose friends. Here’s why.

    Back in 2016 I had drunk the media Kool-Aid and was scared out of my mind about Trump. As such I donated to Hilary Clinton’s campaign and voted for her.

    By 2020 I was disillusioned and didn’t vote – I didn’t like either option.

    Now, in 2024, I believe this is one of the most important elections of my lifetime, and I’m supporting Trump.

    I know that I’ll lose friends for this. Some will refuse to do business with me. The media will probably demonize me, as they have so many others before me. But despite this, I still believe it’s the right thing to do.

    I refuse to live in a society where people are afraid to speak.

    The 2016 Election

    I’m going to start off with something provocative, but I think it leads to a different take on the most controversial Trump issue, which is obviously January 6th. So here goes nothing.

    I believe the 2016 election was manipulated to hurt Hilary Clinton and to help Donald Trump.

    Hilary Clinton herself believes this, she has denied the 2016 election result dozens of times, and still does to this day. Plot twist: I agree with her! Look into Guccifer 2.0 which was the “hacker group” that strategically leaked her emails (through Wikileaks) in a drip campaign at just the right moments. Turns out it was the Russian GRU. And remember all those fake news and bot farms? These incidents are the tip of the spear -- some of the publicly known incidents. There was extreme manipulation happening during the 2016 election.

    Before proceeding, please watch at least 30 seconds of this video. It’s “24 straight minutes of Democrats denying election results.”

    Russia (and others) interfering in the 2016 election was nothing new, this happens in every election, everywhere in the world. Obviously.

    But for me, as someone that used to work in National Security, Russia’s implicit support for Trump made me deathly afraid of him getting elected as President.

    I was wrong, and Russia miscalculated. President Trump turned out to be a master of foreign policy and particularly strong towards Russia. If you’ve never seen it before, please watch this two minute clip from Trump at a NATO breakfast 5 years ago.

    If you're too lazy, Trump told Germany that they're a) owned by Russia via their energy dependence b) financing Russia's war machine by buying their energy c) not investing enough in defense, investing only 1% of GDP, which was below the 2% NATO commitment, meanwhile the US was investing 4.2% of GDP. And yet the world said he's owned by Russia?

    For other Trump foreign policy wins, he: a) signed the Abraham Accords b) successfully put Iran in the penalty box, which the Biden administration immediately unwound and c) he helped India see the dangers of having their comms networks controlled by China resulting in Huawei and TikTok bans there.

    My “radicalization” towards the center

    August 16th, 2021 was the day I knew I could never support Joe Biden or any of the senior officials in his administration. This was the day that Afghans fell to their deaths from US C-17 airplanes at the Kabul International Airport, or KAIA as ISAF forces referred to it.

    Back in 2012 I deployed to Afghanistan working for DARPA. I used to fly out of KAIA at least weekly, usually taking a Blackhawk to Bagram Airfield (BAF), but sometimes jumping on a C-130 down to Kandahar (KAF).

    I'm not going to go into all of the details here, but this was personal for me -- as it was for anyone that served in Afghanistan. Most have the wrong impression of what happened there. Afghanistan wasn't Iraq. And real progress had been made. It took roughly 15 years to stabilize most of Afghanistan, but the ISAF coalition had gotten it to the place that little girls were going to school in Kabul, sometimes walked there by their mothers who weren't even wearing Burkas anymore. All of this was unimaginable a decade prior.

    And then there's the strategic aspect. The US's most strategic base in Afghanistan was Bagram Airfield. Unless you've been there it's impossible to imagine how strategic this base is, and how easy it is to defend. Nestled in a remote valley at the foothills of the Himalayas. Within a couple hour flight of China and Iran, and a few minute flight to Pakistan. I believe this airfield could have been held for 50+ years with 50,000 men. A similar scale to the US permanent forces stationed at Ramstein Air Base in Germany or the US bases in Okinawa, Japan.

    We gave up one of the most strategic air bases in the world, and arguably stability in Kabul, for political gain -- to be able to say that President Biden ended the War in Afghanistan. And we did it in the most incompetent manner possible, literally with people falling from our airplanes. Everyone I have spoken with that served in Afghanistan knows this.

    Global instability

    It wasn't just Afghanistan, I believe that the Biden administration has had some of the worst foreign policy in decades. And this has manifested in two major Wars breaking out during their administration, with Russia's invasion of Ukraine and Iran's proxy attack against Israel.

    Was the timing just bad luck? I don't believe so. I believe that a weak America leads to a chaotic world.

    The failed Afghanistan pull-out showed the weakness of the Biden administration. They failed to adapt to changing facts on the ground, chiefly the Afghan army putting up no resistance as the Taliban drove towards Kabul. If the US can't adapt quickly in a theater where we're already active, how can it react quickly to a blitz in a new theater, Ukraine? Granted the Russian's botched their blitz, miscalculating the weather, almost certainly to keep China happy as they hosted the Olympics in Feb 2022.

    The most damaging foreign policy has been the Biden administration's approach to Iran. Biden resuscitated Obama's braindead Iran doctrine. Somehow believing that the theocratic Islamic Regime could be turned towards the West.

    But it's much worse than this. After Hamas' attack against Israel on October 7th, Iran took credit for planning the attack publicly. Moreover, Iran was so bold that their proxies carried out over 300 attacks against US bases and Naval ships. Many of the attacks haven't been disclosed or publicized. At least 4 US soldiers have been killed in these attacks. And yet somehow despite this, the Biden administration has been rewarding Iran by unfreezing their funds, mourning the death of President Raisi and hamstringing Israel in its proxy battle.

    This level of weakness is unprecedented in my opinion. The US has been kissing the ring of its attacker, literally while attacks against our Armed Forces are carried out. If you start looking, it's hard to see anything other than Iranian foreign influence in the Biden administration, such as what Semafor reported on, and which was effectively buried by our mainstream media.

    The Biden administration has been a dream come true for foreign adversaries, and a nightmare for US allies. Trusting of enemies, and fickle with friends.

    Israel

    To anyone that follows me on X you know that I'm a staunch Israel supporter and also Zionist. I believe that Israel is one of America's most important allies in the world. Unfortunately, in a post-Snowden world, Israel is now arguably the world's top cyber power. And it's a critical intelligence ally for any US operations in the Middle East. It's also becoming an advanced weapons partner, co-developing the hypersonic missile defense system Arrow 3 and also Iron Dome + Iron Beam.

    The Islamic Regime in Iran terrorizes its own people and their proxies terrorize the entire region. Meanwhile, Saudi Arabia has been modernizing at an exceptional pace. Somehow the Biden administration has chosen to cuddle up to Iran while driving Saudi Arabia and Israel away. This is unforgivably disastrous policy in my opinion.

    Double standards

    The next topic that has boiled my blood are the double standards and lawfare that Trump has faced. Here are some examples:
    • Classified documents: Hilary Clinton, Joe Biden, Mike Pence and Donald Trump were all caught with classified documents. Only Trump was indicted. Either it's a crime for all of them or none of them. All of the arguments about quantity of documents or obstruction are distractions to justify a double standard.
    • The Border Wall: remember how Trump was villainized for promoting a border wall? Biden resumed building sections of it after pausing them, which the legacy media has been very quiet about.
    • Election denialism: yes, Trump denied the 2020 election results. But as we linked to above, so did Hilary Clinton and Joe Biden regarding the 2016 results. As have hundreds of other politicians since 2000. Either they're all election deniers, or none of them.
    • Corruption charges: every inch has been searched for Trump corruption while Joe Biden's involvement with foreign countries (through Hunter) have been swept under the rug. Here are some examples.
    • Three strikes for thee but not for me: Joe Biden was the architect of the 1994 Crime Bill, which most attribute as the source of the mass incarceration we saw over the next two decades (especially amongst black communities). Crack cocaine in particular was treated harshly when combined with the 1986 Anti-Drug Abuse Act. Watch this video. Hunter Biden would be locked up for life if the same rules were applied to him that Joe Biden imposed on thousands of others.

    This is just the tip of the double standard iceberg.

    Lawfare

    This is too broad of a topic to go into detail here, but suffice to say I've spent hundreds of hours following the trials and researching the charges against Trump. This has been another radicalizing experience. I understand that normally when there's smoke there's fire, but in this case I think when there's smoke there's lawfare.

    To anyone with a curious mind, I implore you to go deep on any of the charges against Trump, whether civil or criminal. Here's a very quick summary of some of the fishy aspects:
    • Election Interference Case: Jack Smith was appointed Special Counsel to prosecute Trump. Jack Smith previously got the Governor of Virginia convicted of corruption charges... WHICH WERE THEN UNANIMOUSLY OVERTURNED BY THE SUPREME COURT. Basically Jack Smith misled the Jury. Why would you choose Jack Smith to be the Special Counsel for this case? Maybe if all you're trying to do is to get charges to stick before an election, even if you know they'll be overturned subsequently by the Supreme Court?
    • The Classified Documents Case: once again Jack Smith is the Special Counsel.
    • Georgia Election Interference: The Fulton County DA, Fani Willis, has a history of corruption. It turns out that the outside lawyer she selected to prosecute Trump ... is someone she was having a romantic relationship with, Nathan Wade.Wade's Law firm made about $700k after Willis appointed him. This was concealed. Wade has since resigned from the case but Willis is still involved.
    • The Hush Money Case: The key witness, Michael Cohen, is a proven liar. His testimony has been filled with contradiction after contradiction.
    • Bank Fraud: Trump was ordered by Judge Engoron to pay over $350M in civil judgment that he committed bank fraud. This whole case reeked of corruption. This was an incident where no harm had been done: the banks had already been fully repaid with interest. The most important point in the case was Judge Engoron arguing that Mar-a-Lago was worth only between $18M and $27.6M when Trump had said it's worth between $426.5M and $612M. Judge Engoron tried to compare apples to oranges, with an appraised value vs market value for a property that is very clearly worth something close to Trump's range.
    • Sexual Assault / E Jean Carroll: the background to this case was almost unbelievable. In simple terms, a woman in 2019, E Jean Carroll, came out and said that 20+ years prior, in the late 1990s, Donald Trump had sexually assaulted her. The statute of limitations on this case had expired more than a decade prior to her claims. But the state of New York did something unprecedented and opened a one year window where people could file claims for sexual abuse going back to exactly the window when E Jean Carroll accused him. So that's point #1, there was lawfare around the statute of limitations. Point #2 is that the case was highly irregular and ultimately the Jury determined that Trump did not rape E Jean Carroll, despite her claims. But they did determine that he sexually assaulted her (a lesser charge than rape.)

    All of these cases are too complicated for most to follow, almost by design. As someone that has been following the cases closely, I've had the opposite reaction of what was intended: a) every single case seems to have had impropriety and b) after going through Trump's entire life, if these are the worst things they can find, then he did less wrong then I otherwise would have assumed.

    Fairness is one of my guiding principles in life and simply, these cases haven't been fair for Trump.


    Where do I disagree with Republicans?

    The number one area is abortion. This is obviously a lightning rod issue. As someone with libertarian leaning views, I believe the Republicans have the wrong stance around imposing their views on others. That said, I think Democrats misunderstand the constitutional argument that this should be a states issue.

    Domestic policies

    Other than abortion, I believe that President Trump and the Republicans have been better on most domestic issues. Look at the quality of life in Red States such as Florida and Texas vs that in Blue States like California, Oregon and New York. I used to live in San Francisco and now live in Los Angeles. The crime and homelessness is out of control.

    Trump was villainized for his stance on building a border wall, but we've had about 10M illegal immigrants cross into the US already during President Biden's tenure.

    The Democrats have been trying to regulate technology -- especially open source AI and crypto in ways that incentivize the best builders to build outside of America.

    25 years ago I believe the Far Right was vastly more dangerous than the Far Left. But today I believe the Far Left, and especially Antifa, is more dangerous. Our attention and maintenance was on the Far Right while we ignored the Far Left.

    The 2020 election and January 6th

    Now onto the elephant in the room, the 2020 election. The topic so taboo that if you talk about it you're immediately cancelled. I'm willing to wade into this fire -- some of us need to be willing to.

    I believe America has conflated two issues: the 2020 election itself and January 6th.

    Just as Hilary Clinton and dozens of other democrats claimed the 2016 election was stolen (which I agree with). I believe there was a similar scale, or even more interference in the 2020 election. We need to be able to talk about this, so that we can fix the problems. Democracy doesn't work without secure elections. But it also doesn't work without peaceful transitions of power. Both are essential.

    I believe there was extreme election interference but I don't believe January 6th was the right response. Bear with me.

    So what was going on during the 2020 election?

    I held a Top Secret (TS/SCI) clearance for about 7 years and used to work in information warfare, and also cybersecurity. I've seen nation-state tactics that most can't imagine. It is from this lens, and through access to lots of non-public information, through which I viewed the election.

    If you go back to the 2020 election, arguably the most sophisticated cyberattack in history was taking place. This was the SolarWinds supply chain attack. This attack was so sophisticated that it's impossible to know exactly what it was used for. And much of what we do know has never been reported.

    Washington has an interesting phenomenon where when something incredibly damaging is learned, people oftentimes clam up and refuse to deal with it. I've seen this first hand multiple times now.

    But we also have things like the Hunter Biden laptop scandal, which the FBI was in possession of for roughly a year before the election, and despite it being easy to verify its authenticity, the FBI was actively telling Facebook and Twitter that it is fake news and they recommended banning sharing of the NY Post article about it.

    But there were so many other issues. Not least of which was a global pandemic that almost certainly leaked from a Chinese lab, but we weren't allowed to talk about that. Nor the mail-in ballot issues.

    Many point to the 2020 election and say "there's no smoking gun evidence so therefore there was no interference!" My retort is that there's not public evidence and in general the DoD/IC is afraid to push too far on the issue, knowing how damaging it would be to find interference. There's things I can't say.

    The end result is a 2020 election where Biden and Trump combined received 155.5M votes vs the 128.8M combined for Hilary and Trump in 2016. That's 26.7M more votes in 2020 compared to 2016. That's a 20% increase in voter turnout in a period where the population only grew by a few percent. In an election where people weren't inspired by either candidate. And where there was more voting friction than ever before due to COVID-19.

    Personally I don't think it's fair for Hilary Clinton to be able to claim the 2016 election was stolen, but Donald Trump to be indicted for the same thing.

    Regarding the January 6th protests. I don't agree with them. Even if an election is stolen I think the correct democratic response is to accept it, have peaceful transition of power, and then to fight like hell on the backend to make sure it never happens again.

    Regarding Trump's involvement in January 6th. The clearest thing he did was deny the election results, but again, so did Hilary Clinton. So if this isn't a crime in and of itself, then what else did he do?

    The rest is fuzzy. There is conflicting testimony, especially around when the National Guard was requested. On the one hand you had the testimonies of General Charles Flynn and Lt. General Walter Piatt. But on the other side you have the testimonies of Colonel Earl Mathews, Trump's Chief of Staff Mark Meadows and The Head of the Capitol Police at the time, Steven Sund. The media reports on Trump's January 6th involvement in absolute terms but again, if you go deep, it's unclear. For me, if Trump actually asked for the National Guard to be ready to go during January 6th it's a major counterpoint against the allegations that he was inciting an insurrection.

    Summary

    In 2016 there were two primary reasons I voted for Hilary (and was deathly afraid of Trump)

    #1) Russia helped him in the election by hurting Hilary. This made me susceptible to the media narrative that he's owned by Russia and will be a foreign policy disaster.

    #2) Candidly the clip where he said "I grab them by their pussy" deeply bothered me.

    These two things built a pattern in my mind that Trump was out of control.

    But now with the benefit of hindsight, revisiting these two points:

    #1) To my shock, I believe Trump was one of the best foreign policy Presidents in decades, and during the most complex period in almost a century, as the East rises, which leads to a changing set of rules.

    #2) That clip still sits in the back of my mind, but I personally consider the double standards and lawfare against Trump to be 10x worse, and 10x more dangerous for our Democracy.

    What's next?

    Do I agree with Trump on everything? Of course not. The area where I disagree with Republicans the most is on Women's rights. And I'm sure I'll disagree with some of Trump's policies in the future.

    But in general I think he was surprisingly prescient, such as with the border wall, and he was also a masterful negotiator, such as with the Abraham accords.

    There's a real chance President Trump is convicted of felony charges and sentenced to prison. Bluntly, that's part of why I'm supporting him. I believe our justice system is being weaponized against him.

    If abortion is your most important issue, then I get it, vote for Biden. If any other topic is your most important issue, then do your homework and investigate the manipulation I outlined above.

    Given the two choices, I believe President Trump is overwhelmingly the stronger candidate. Again, this is something I couldn't have imagined saying in 2016.

    Conclusion

    Speak up. Don't be silenced. Freedom of speech is worth nothing if you're afraid to use it. We can't let cancel culture win.

    There's no greater country in the world than America. But America has had a bad decade. America is blessed with a robust constitution, abundant natural resources and diverse people. The way out from here is by focusing on our strengths, which are liberalism and hard work. We need to start building again.

    Best of luck to President Trump.


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    A side note I'd like to add to the article above is that the author seems to still believe in the Guccifer narrative about the HRC emails leak to Wikileaks. He seems unaware that Seth Rich leaked those emails and was murdered for his actions.

    That said, it's encouraging to see him ask questions and try to think through the morass. As long as people keep doing this, individually and en masse, there is hope.

    Great share mountain_jim, thank you.
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    For a long time... I didn't open CNN... but here you go... this is interesting with this MAGAc...
    Do you all remember democrat John Edwards??? It was some stuff going on in the time of campaigning for president.. involved a woman! And money! He had to step down from his candidacy... nuff said!

    I agree with George Conway here... we.. old as Donald and more old ones... we strongly remember all not good stuff of him through decades... Donald was not good business man, all his behaviour and not nice deeds of him, actions... and all his buddies, who were the best friends of him... remember more than 15 years long his mentor and personal good friend, gay Roy Cohn... his good friend pedophile Epstein and Maxwell and other abusers of young girls... Donald was involved in so many court's proceedings.. about 2000 through the years...

    If someone want to search about Donald and know him well, for sure, in my opinion... he is the biggest con man, liar and opportunist ever...

    And above in your copy ... mountainjim, this summery is just very partisan point of view... for myself... NOT real!!! Not democrat, not republican, not MAGA... and more NOT... NOT... NOT.... DONALD and BIDEN!

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    Stopped viewing this thread as it became bozoncan talking to himself, came back and no surprise. TDS on full display. Will be reviewed by scholars for years when discussing the stupidity of man.
    Hi shockid... I would love to hear from others too, what is on their minds about Donald... this is not my thread, not wanting to be in this thread alone.... but, only myself is adding some stuff about this poor man, whom I do not see him, as the trustworthy and eligible to become once again the president of US... yes, this thread is generally about not liking him and about not trusting him... and about him, not to be the answer for something positive and good for humanity! I am noticing, that people are lurking in this thread... and, because I am adding mostly videos here... I do not see myself as important one or being proud about it!

    Cheers!
    But, to put it simply, if you had to choose between the lesser of two evils, which one would it be, Trump or Biden? Make a choice, no other options available (because it is unrealistic to expect RFK to win).

    It really might be the choice between a finally (!) negotiated peace in Ukraine (which Trump still wants to do directly with talks and indirectly by putting a stop to financing the Selensky regime) on one side .... and the high probability of WW3 on the other side.

    So ... wouldn't preventing WWIII make Trump despite all his shortcomings at least the lesser evil?

    Hi Open...


    I do not see WWIII will be prevented, if... because that we would want Trump on highest place....He is not so important in this way... I see him a part of those big one above too... No, he is also NOT GOOD anymore... his flexibilities and strait pointed and profound mind is out... He can be patsy to somebody stronger as him...

    Through this moments towards elections... I see a big rise of interest for RFKJr! As I said it... he will be catapulted in few months... people will see only him, to be worthy of people votes... For me, only him. He is not ideal, but he is honest one! Donald and Joe.... yes, two evil... not well in their minds, bodies .. also haven't clear and purity of the soul!

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    I do not agree with all George is saying... but he is good with explanations...

    George Conway Explains: Trump's Witness was a DISASTER, Cohen Nailed It

    So you believe that the RFK with the speech problem that is due to his ADMITTED problem of having worms in his brain, and said worms ate part of his brains, is what we should look for in a President?
    Yes Jim... I would prefer one man with worm in the brain than Biden and Donald! It's just pathetic, that people are not noticing the difference between this three! Sad!!!

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    Quote Posted by edina (here)
    A side note I'd like to add to the article above is that the author seems to still believe in the Guccifer narrative about the HRC emails leak to Wikileaks. He seems unaware that Seth Rich leaked those emails and was murdered for his actions.

    That said, it's encouraging to see him ask questions and try to think through the morass. As long as people keep doing this, individually and en masse, there is hope.

    Great share mountain_jim, thank you.
    Yes I saw that, knew he was wrong there, thanks for the addition.
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    Prosecutor gives MUST-SEE news on Trump sentencing



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    'DYING EMPIRE LED BY BAD PEOPLE': Young Voters TORCH America | The Kyle Kulinski Show


    I heard, what Megyn said... Pandora Box is opening... Yes, I am good with that. Let come out all the stuff, we knew but it was under NDA or swept under the rugs... buried deep down, but we knew...
    Left and right and the middle... Hillary, Bill, Obama, Bush, Trump... CEOs, Bankers, Judges...
    Reconning is happening in these moments already... and more will come out about all of the above.. liars, pretenders, grifters, con people.. they can not hide themselves anymore... also, for Trump.. he is not done yet... more will come out.. now are the moments we were waiting...
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    OMG... this MAGA George! This is interesting... Those above the law people! Reckoning is coming for sure...
    Again... the same happened with John Edwards... people forgot... he had to stepped down out from campaigning... those two MAGAc George and Vincent... OMG!!!

    “He’s Just A Big Fat LIAR!” Donald Trump Guilty | Piers Morgan Debate


    Agree with Cenk! Specially with Robinson here... Yes, you are so right R!
    LOW-ENERGY Trump Gives RAMBLING Speech After Guilty Verdict
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