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    Up to half a million NATO soldiers waiting to enter Ukraine: "Offensive oriented", preparing for "a large confrontation"

    https://www.sott.net/article/492558-...-confrontation

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    Interesting indeed. Visegrad24 account on X has been suspended:

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    Interesting - a major Israel & Ukraine propaganda account has been suspended….
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    Radiation Control Post in Zaporozhye Region Fully Destroyed as Shelled by Ukraine 9 hours ago

    SIMFEROPOL (Sputnik) - One of the radiation control posts in the village of Velyka Znamyanka in the Zaporozhye region was completely destroyed as a result of shelling by the armed forces of Ukraine, the press service of the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant said on Wednesday.

    "The Ukrainian armed forces hit one of the radiation control posts. The radiation control post in Velyka Znamyanka was completely destroyed as a result of artillery shelling of the Ukrainian armed forces," the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant said in a statement.

    Nuclear power plant specialists carried out a number of compensatory measures to monitor the radiation situation in the area of ​​the plant after the shelling, the statement read, adding that radiation monitoring at the site, in the sanitary zone and the observation zone of Zaporozhye nuclear power plant does not exceed natural values.

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    ‘Reports’ come: ‘RQ-4B shot down over the Black Sea by a MiG-31’

    Numerous online sources suggest that a US Air Force RQ-4B reconnaissance drone was downed over the Black Sea. This topic is lighting up X and Telegram, where users are buzzing with comments, although solid evidence remains scarce. Leading the charge in these claims is X user, US Civil Defense News.

    The US Civil Defense News profile description reads: “Retired Military Officer, former Political Advisor to NATO 3 Star General! Former Congressional Staffer, Wounded Warrior & Iraq War Veteran! Stay Informed!” What US Civil Defense News writes in X is: “Update: Report that a Russian MiG-31 fighter jet shot down the US RQ-4B Global Hawk over the Black Sea near Crimea where the US surveillance drone was providing targeting information to NATO missiles in Ukraine!!”

    Just hours before this article, the same X account released updates about Crimea, Russia, Ukraine, and NATO. The report stated that Moscow had decided to establish its own “no-fly zone” over the Black Sea. This move is in response to allied air reconnaissance efforts, which have been supplying Ukraine with information on Russian targets.

    “Update: Russia is planning to declare its own ‘no-fly zone!’ Over the Black Sea! Will shoot down any NATO surveillance drone flying near Crimea giving targeting information to Ukraine!! War is about to heat up quickly!!” in this regard US Civil Defense News. Later, the two posts were merged into one that read: “We reported it first! Before it happened!! Now Russia just shot down a US Drone over the Black Sea!!,” referring to “Moscow’s decision to make the for flight zone” over the Black Sea.

    On Telegram, a debate has emerged regarding a “downed” RQ-4B drone, fueled by both pro-Ukrainian and pro-Russian accounts. When we sift through the usual chatter, we see claims suggesting an RQ-4B drone has ceased transmission, which has led to speculation that the drone was shot down.

    However, as of the writing of this article, there has been no official confirmation from the Russian Federation, Ukraine, Europe, or the United States concerning the downing of a reconnaissance drone within the last 24 hours, whether it be an RQ-4B or an RQ-9. Even Russian outlets like Avia.pro report that the incident remains unverified, with no evidence to substantiate the claims.

    Furthermore, in its daily update on the situation in Ukraine, the Russian Ministry of Defense has not mentioned anything about an RQ-4B/RQ-9 drone, related incidents over the Black Sea, or the involvement of a MiG-31 in a mission over the Black Sea. Given that both Russia and Ukraine tend to publicly celebrate the downing of enemy equipment, the absence of such a report, especially from Russia, points to either guesswork, unconfirmed information, or a complete lack of information.

    While BulgarianMilitary.com isn’t sure where the “sources” are getting their information, it’s important to note that a temporarily disabled radar transponder on a reconnaissance drone doesn’t necessarily mean it’s been downed or damaged. Drone operators frequently use this tactic as part of their strategic maneuvers.

    Take, for instance, a recent Ukrainian strike on Crimea, which Russia has attributed to the U.S. due to the presence of a reconnaissance drone over the Black Sea. During this mission, some experts observed that the drone’s radar transponder was purposefully turned off by the operator at a certain point.

    One primary reason operators turn off the radar transponder of the RQ-4B reconnaissance drone during a military mission is to enhance stealth. The transponder emits signals that can be detected by enemy radar systems, potentially revealing the drone’s location and compromising the mission. By deactivating it, the drone becomes harder to track and identify, increasing its chances of successfully gathering intelligence without being intercepted.

    Another reason for turning off the radar transponder is to avoid electronic warfare tactics. Adversaries could use the transponder signals to jam or spoof the drone’s navigation systems, leading it off course or rendering it ineffective. Disabling the transponder minimizes this risk, ensuring the drone can complete its mission without interference.

    Additionally, turning off the radar transponder helps in maintaining operational security. Military missions often require a high level of secrecy, and any emitted signals could be intercepted by enemy forces, providing them with valuable information about the mission’s objectives and timing. By keeping the transponder off, operators reduce the chances of sensitive information being leaked.

    Lastly, the transponder is typically used for air traffic control and collision avoidance in civilian airspace. During a military mission, especially in contested or hostile environments, these considerations are secondary to the mission’s success and the drone’s safety. Therefore, operators prioritize stealth and security over standard aviation protocols.

    BulgarianMilitary.com cannot confirm the other claim of the US Civil Defense News X account that Moscow is establishing a “no-fly zone” over the Black Sea. There is no official announcement of such an action by the Russian Federation. The latest reports from the area’s mobile air traffic tracking apps show that planes are still circling over the Black Sea and that no planes are flying around Crimea. This has been a daily occurrence since the beginning of the war until today.

    There is a chance that these news stories might just be good examples of fake news. High-following accounts are sharing claims without evidence, and no official sources have backed them up.

    UPDATES:

    American officials have dismissed claims circulated by Russian websites—often linked to the Russian Defense Ministry—that an “incident” occurred in the Black Sea yesterday. Specifically, the allegations suggesting a U.S. high-altitude, long-endurance (HALE) reconnaissance drone, such as the RQ-4 Global Hawk or its Navy variant, the MQ-4C Triton, was “chased” and shot down by Russian fighter jets, potentially MiG-31s, have been denied.

    https://bulgarianmilitary.com/amp/20...a-by-a-mig-31/

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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    Nice news from "you turd"

    With normal Firefox I copy address from map battles news and dont work anymore...
    Same with opera with vpn...
    are they soooo afraid people "see" the true?

    Try yourself and come back and tell me is my fault...
    UPDATE: now work...(another video...)maybe was something fault in the URL from first video...

    [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]Mod note from Bill:
    I only understood about half of that! But it seems there's something on YouTube that you can no longer copy and paste here in a post. If you go to the Sandbox thread, maybe you could explain in detail exactly what you're trying to do and we'll all see if we can help figure it out.





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    Kaja Kallas the Russia hawk ? Never heard her been called like that. Estonians usually call her KaKa or in some cases ¨electricity molecule¨ because when in press conference she was asked why the price of electricity has skyrocketed her answer was that there is a shortage of electricity molecules in Estonia. For those who are clueless there are no such things as electricity molecules.
    Doesnt know anything about electricity while her ex-husband has become the overlord of Estonian energy sector.
    Just one example how stupid she is. But how does a dimwit like that become a prime minister ?
    I guess it helps if your daddy runs the jew maffia that is ruling over the country.
    Her dad is Siim Kallas ,high ranking freemason https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siim_Kallas
    In early 90´s when he was the president of bank of Estonia he personally signed dozens of loans to shady companies that all disappeared with money .100+ million went missing. He was dragged to court but all witnesses died and he sayd he doesnt remember nothing about anything and case closed. All files were made state secret for 75 years .
    With the stolen money he founded new political party that has been ruling over Estonia ever since. They own the courts,police,media etc.
    Kaja Kallas was also one of the candidates to become secretary general of NATO.
    She has been barking at russias direction for years now ,demanding more sanctions etc while she herself got caught investing money in russian businesses just recently but that what was hushed up.
    Same jew maffia was part of one of the worlds biggest money laundering scandals that has been discovered.
    They helped to move 200-800 billion out of russia through estonia . Moscow sent one banking official twice to Estonia who demanded an investigation to be started in that matter. He was ignored and after his second trip after he arrived to Moscow he got shot dead in the street and money laundering continued for years and years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danske...dering_scandal

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    • Prof. Jeffrey Sachs : Why the West Hates Russia:

    "Russian here, in 1990s Russia had a law called Product Sharing Agreement, under which western companies were drilling oil in Russia tax free. Up to 100 billion dollars each year were lost by Russia in potential tax each year. Somewhere mid 2000s Putin started adding amendments to that law and eventually made BP and Exxon pay taxes. This is how the 20 year old the anti Russian hysteria was started by western media.

    Just so you get it - I studied in 3 schools in city of Novosibirsk, school number 165, 112 and 3rd gymnasium. Go to Google maps and check it - 112 and 3rd gymnasium were rebuilt from scratch. Go and compare images from 2003 and 2024. School 112 was built in 1950s, it was removed completely and a new school built from scratch. Same story with the gymnasium, it was a building from 1960s, classes were packed with students like a can of sardines. Rebuilt from scratch, looks like some school in Sweden now. Visited it last summer, everything is brand new.

    We physically felt how money flooded out cities. Where was that money going in the 90s? To our American friends. To pay for their schools. This is the so called western democracy. You eat dirt and do as we say while we live off your land. And they sat on a pile of money taken from us and were teaching us how to live and how corrupt we are and how wrong we are and how our history is bad and on and on and on.

    Now we had this for a couple of decades. Imagine what Africans and Asians feel like. They have been living under this yoke for centuries and the same people that rob them use a condescending tone, teaching them how to live. And that`s 80% of the world population who had someone else's hands in their pockets. Now think about North Korea and who made it this way. Think about Syria where American bases are placed around the oil fields. When it all falls down, there won`t be any Americans taken prisoners, trust me. There will be so many live leaks 18+ videos, the servers would go down.

    Lets not bring it to that point and avoid unnecessary violence, there is still time. Stop the people that forgot where the breaking pedal is in Washington, no one elected that gang of thieves, they sent American 18 year olds to commit crimes and theft overseas without knowing what they were doing. Its a bunch of hawkish racist cold war old farts who lost touch with reality and got bitter because they had their balls blown off by a Vietnamese, those people need pills and rest".
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    Quote Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
    We are still figuring out whether America has such a backbone, in some form or other.


    I can only respond on behalf of those who left the UK for obvious reasons and settled here as "colonists" who mostly just wanted to be left alone. By the government that is. A lot of the major issues were not with Monarchy or the King, per se, but with Parliament. Adding new citizens was heavily restricted to Parliament, and so you couldn't really have an open door to Spanish, French, etc., who might have wanted to come in.

    By the time we take the trouble to fight for a separate country, the new government decides to grant automatic asylum to all Italians because it has got in a political boondoggle with the Pope. After about a 100 years, this was suddenly shut off, by the rise of what we might call Nazism or Eugenics. It mainly is British and American in nature, based on a scientific racial insult against "Mediterraneans", then avidly taken up by Germany and Sweden for their new repressive policies of the 1900s. I suppose we can add by Ukraine in the 2000s.

    The new government also gave us something similar to Hereditary Nobility called Sons and Daughters of the Revolution. You can, so to speak, "join", but I could not find an ancestor who served in anything other than a state militia--this is for those who served in the Army under the Continental Congress.

    The major problem is that what would be called Nationalism these days is more or less the Truman Doctrine, which is not only not what I am talking about, it is the complete opposite. The backbone I am speaking of went through times like Valley Forge, and I am afraid it has been rebuilt with substitutions ever since.

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    Quote Posted by Vicus (here)
    However, as of the writing of this article, there has been no official confirmation from the Russian Federation, Ukraine, Europe, or the United States concerning the downing of a reconnaissance drone within the last 24 hours, whether it be an RQ-4B or an RQ-9. Even Russian outlets like Avia.pro report that the incident remains unverified, with no evidence to substantiate the claims.

    ...

    American officials have dismissed claims circulated by Russian websites—often linked to the Russian Defense Ministry—that an “incident” occurred in the Black Sea yesterday.


    Interesting that the "Americans" can place the blame where we already know it doesn't go.

    We will get responses about the music hall and beach incidents. Things like med labs are slower to process, but, you will be informed of the consequences of these actions. Guesswork with "!" repeated all over the place will not be necessary.

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    Quote Posted by Jaak (here)
    But how does a dimwit like that become a prime minister ?
    I guess it helps if your daddy runs the jew maffia that is ruling over the country.
    Her dad is Siim Kallas ,high ranking freemason...

    Interestingly it says that Kallas is the grandson of Mr. Estonian Independence Eduard Alver, commander of the Estonian Defence League (Kaitseliit) during the 1918–1920 Estonian War of Independence.


    Playing bloodline whack-a-mole:


    After Estonia restored its independence in 1991, Kallas was appointed the President of the Bank of Estonia, at the time only having 11 employees.


    It says he was in the Signal Corps of the Soviet Army and started working in Finance while Estonia was an SSR.

    The rest of it does sound like typical Wikipedia glissado for hundreds of unsolved crimes.

    It doesn't quite tell us about Judaism or Freemasonry, which is slightly unusual in that we can often find any such associations on pages of American politicians. Here, not even a church is mentioned.

    I'm not feeling the warmest reception towards this, personally, so, eh, good luck with the next step in the dynasty.

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    Mark Rutte as NATO’s new Secretary General: a tested hawk steps in after Stoltenberg

    Outgoing Dutsh PM Mark Rutte will take over as NATO Secretary-General from Jens Stoltenberg, who has headed the military bloc since 2014.

    Stoltenberg, who saw the Ukrainian conflict escalate from shelling Donetsk in 2014 to the current proxy war, sees Rutte as a worthy successor, “true trans-Atlanticist” and “consensus-builder.”

    Mark Rutte’s appointment leaves little hope of peace in Ukraine as he is known as an anti-Russian hawk.

    🔶Rutte was PM in 2014 when a Dutch airliner carrying 298 people was shot down over Donetsk. He immediately blamed the disaster on “pro-Russian separatists” despite evidence a Ukrainian missile hit the plane.

    🔶In 2018, Rutte joined the UK’s anti-Russian campaign over the alleged attempted murder of MI6 double agent Sergei Skripal and his daughter. The Skripals were not allowed to talk to media or explain what happened, but Rutte sided with British PM Theresa May in blaming Moscow and expelled four Russian citizens over the affair.

    🔶Mark Rutte met Volodymyr Zelensky soon after his victory in the 2019 election. He described Zelensky as “a man with a mission” and said he was “convinced that Ukraine’s success largely depends on the mentality he conveyed from the very beginning.”

    🔶In 2022, Rutte was one of the first Western leaders to visirt Kiev to back the Zelensky regime after Russia launched its special military operation.

    After Rutte’s appointment, the South China Morning Post described him as “a fierce critic of Russian President Putin and a staunch ally of Ukraine, who has been one of the driving forces behind Europe’s military support for Ukraine.

    ”NATO’s hostile stance towards Russia is unlikely to change with a new secretary-general, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on Wednesday.

    "It is unlikely that this choice can change anything in the general line of NATO, [they] are working to strategically suppress Russia. At the moment it is an alliance that is hostile to us," Peskov told reporters.


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    Russian Interior Minister Vladimir Kolokoltsev arrived in New York to take part in UN meetings, the Russian mission to the UN said.

    "The minister of internal affairs of the Russian Federation, Vladimir Kolokoltsev, has arrived in the United States to participate in meetings at the United Nations," the mission wrote on its Telegram channel.

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    Russian President Vladimir Putin will not be goaded into a reckless and impulsive response to Ukraine’s killing of Russian civilians in Sevastopol on Sunday, said filmmaker Regis Tremblay, but will carefully consider its options as it works to construct a multipolar world order.

    “This has been a war – a declared war – by the United States of America on Russia… Ukraine has been a pawn,” said the documentarian on Sputnik’s The Critical Hour program.

    Nevertheless, the filmmaker noted that “Putin has never acted impulsively.”

    “Will Russia respond? Yes, certainly it will respond, but not in a way that will trigger World War Three,” said the filmmaker. “President Putin has made it very clear that he is not going to do anything that would inadvertently trigger a nuclear war between the United States and Russia.”

    “Sergey Lavrov, the foreign minister, has been traveling throughout Asia and through Africa signing agreements, long-term agreements for development, for strategic partnerships and for military partnerships,” he noted. “This is, to me, how Russia is responding to the neverending United States escalation on Russia. Putin will not take the bait.”

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    🇷🇺 It is necessary to qualitatively improve the combat readiness of the Russian navy in strategically important areas at sea, Russian President Vladimir Putin emphasized.

    "As you know, the Decree on naval activities through 2030 set clear guidelines, namely, to comprehensively develop the Russian navy, including ship, aviation and coastal components, to establish infrastructure, strengthen its position in strategically important areas of the world ocean, and qualitatively increase combat readiness," Putin said at a meeting on shipbuilding.

    It is planned that domestic shipbuilders will deliver more than 40 ships to the Russian Defense Ministry in 2024, the Russian president added.

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    🇷🇺 Threats against Russia should be taken seriously and adequate responses need to be planned in advance, alongside with the strengthening of the armed forces and the navy, Russian President Vladimir Putin said.

    "We all understand the increasing degree of geopolitical tension in the modern world, we hear regular threats against Russia from the elites of a number of countries and even see concrete actions to implement these threats. Naturally, we must take this as seriously as possible, calculate all the possible risks and plan adequate responses, strengthen our armed forces and navy," Putin said at a meeting on shipbuilding.

    The Russian navy needs to be protected from long-range missile attacks, the president said, adding that Russia needs to develop a remote threat detection systems, including a one using drones.

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    🇷🇺⚔️🇺🇦 Special Operation, 26 June 2024, Main

    Russian units defeated the enemy in a number of directions, occupied more advantageous positions, improved the tactical position, and also repelled 11 counterattacks, the losses of Kiev amounted to more than 1.8 thousand militants;

    Aviation and artillery, together with drones, destroyed three launchers of US HIMARS MLRS, a transport-loading vehicle and foreign specialists who ensured their use, the Ministry of Defence added;

    The company of the Sevastopol militia went into operational readiness mode after the shelling of the beach with ATACMS missiles, which was staged by Kiev, company commander Alexander Sinyavsky told RIA Novosti;

    The radiation control post in Velikaya Znamenka, Zaporozhye region, was completely destroyed as a result of shelling by the AFU, the press service of the Zaporozhye Nuclear Power Plant reported;

    Britain asks France to refrain from escalation in Ukraine amid statements about the possible deployment of troops, Foreign Minister Cameron told Russian pranksters;

    NATO approved Rutte as the next Secretary General of the alliance; the head of the State Duma Defence Committee, Kartapolov, told RIA Novosti that in this regard, the alliance’s policy towards Russia will not change.

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    Russian Troops hit AFU facilities in Kharkov, Belgorod-Dnestrovsky, Odessa region, and in the Nikolayev region.

    The Enemy continues to shell the Russian border area and tried to attack RFAF targets in the Smolensk region with drones.

    In the Kupyansk-Svatovo section, Russian troops are advancing in the direction of Petropavlovka from Olshana, and have also expanded the zone of control on the approaches to Stelmakhovka.

    In the Avdeyevka direction, Russian troops repelled an enemy counterattack in the area of Yasnobrodovka and are conducting fierce battles in the Sokol and Novopokrovskoye areas.

    On the Vremyevka ledge, clashes continue on the northern outskirts of Staromayorskoye and in Urozhaynoye.

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    🇷🇺⚔️🇺🇦 Situation in the Kupyansk Direction by the end of 26 June 2024

    The RFAF took an important AFU position near Sinkovka, covering Kupyansk from the north:

    In theKupyansk direction, Russian troops continued to surround Stelmakhovka, located south of the city itself. -To help our fighters there, the RFAF launched an attack on the important "Kryuk" position, located east of Sinkovka.
    -The AFU turned the area around the village into a system of fortifications supporting each other with fire.
    -Sinkovka itself became the main line of cover for Kupyansk from the north. It is located to the west of Kupyansk and it was already captured together with Kotlyarovka.

    During a stubborn assault, "Kryuk: was captured by the Russian Army. Control of this position over time will allow not only to reach the enemy’s flank and rear in Sinkovka, but also to advance towards Petropavlovka.
    -But the main thing is that by occupying the "Kryuk", the RFAF created a tense situation for the AFU. Part of the Ukrainian forces has been shackled, which Kiev will no longer be able to transfer to other areas.

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    Russia's Response To Ukraine's US-Backed Bombing Of Beachgoers Wasn't What Many Expected

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