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[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Tintin (here)
... that calls a nonsense on this being staged

Posted by jaybee (here)
Thanks for making that statement, Tintin.... I totally agree.... 100%

Having spent over a half century observing such events, one rule of thumb I have is that such events are never 100% staged, and never 100% real.

There are always some involved who were living real lives, and maybe dying real deaths.

There are always some behind the scenes, and their operatives in view, who are staging or reporting afterwards fake, false or fraudulent elements.

The goal when analyzing such events is to identify and connect enough real dots, and filter out enough fake dots, soon enough, to be able to draw a sufficiently accurate picture to timely guide future moves.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by mountain_jim (here)

Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)

Posted by mountain_jim (here)
Gun to his shoulder and looking down the sight.

I did not post that quote - Mark did, in post before the one you linked to.

Oops - fixed - thanks.

[mountain_jim]

https://x.com/KarluskaP/status/1815777001631830470

at 1:05
said in Butler local Law folks were whispering to him, saying "more here to the story, we need to talk about what actually happened" (and apparently afraid to speak publicly or even in front of the Feds, I gather).

another summary

trappedpatriot
@trappedpatriot
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Multiple Law Enforcement and elected officials in Butler have privately whispered to investigators that there is more to the story / information that hasn’t been shared.

“To have people that were on the ground there concerned or afraid of stepping forward is unacceptable”

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Gwin Ru (here)

Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
[...]
There may be a question here of whether he had a scope, or was using iron sights.
[...]

Taking for granted that, that's the roofer very gun, then:

Ok - if Crooks is looking through his scope - why can't I see his scope somewhere within a few inches in front of his glasses? I see tree leaves there.

[mountain_jim]

https://x.com/RepMTG/status/1815788634261385371

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene🇺🇸
@RepMTG
Her resignation isn’t the end of this failure for FORMER Secret Service Director Kim Cheatle, who reported to Mayorkas.

She will not get to slither away and enjoy retirement.

Cheatle and Mayorkas will face accountability for actions, including possible criminal investigations.

I won’t let this go unanswered!


https://x.com/TonySeruga/status/1815819641769578516

Tony Seruga
@TonySeruga
Understand, the ATF agent in the gray suit wasn’t the only rogue fed (there without official agency approval or knowledge) at the rally.
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Tony Seruga
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Man in the gray suit was 💯 ATF! Supposedly acting independently of the agency.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
There are always some involved who were living real lives, and maybe dying real deaths.

There are always some behind the scenes, and their operatives in view, who are staging or reporting afterwards fake, false or fraudulent elements.

Or as Tucker Carlson says at the 1:17:40 mark in the following linked interview:

And it was to some extent organic, to some extent it was a setup

• Jack Posobiec: The Trump Shooting and the Coup Against Biden (The Tucker Carlson Show)

[mountain_jim]

I don't think this story matches the audio analysis from any of the researchers

https://x.com/JackPosobiec/status/1815812923991941147

BREAKING: SENATOR JOHNSON CONFIRMS 8 SHELL CASINGS FOUND BY SHOOTERS BODY

— Jack Poso 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) July 23, 2024

[jaybee]

Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)

Posted by Tintin (here)
... that calls a nonsense on this being staged

Posted by jaybee (here)
Thanks for making that statement, Tintin.... I totally agree.... 100%

Having spent over a half century observing such events, one rule of thumb I have is that such events are never 100% staged, and never 100% real.

There are always some involved who were living real lives, and maybe dying real deaths.

There are always some behind the scenes, and their operatives in view, who are staging or reporting afterwards fake, false or fraudulent elements.

The goal when analyzing such events is to identify and connect enough real dots, and filter out enough fake dots, soon enough, to be able to draw a sufficiently accurate picture to timely guide future moves.

Thanks...I understand the point you are making -

The full statement that I was agreeing with was....

TinTin....

...and conspired to devalue his $DJT stock? Just that, in my view, blasts a hole in the highly speculative and erroneous mega conspiracy being promulgated. A smoking gun if you like that calls a nonsense on this being staged. It's a rabbit black hole that folks are being steered down.

It was simply a botched assassination attempt, thankfully botched.

The whole thing, of course, was staged by someone / a group of conspiring someones...

But it took me about half a dot to dismiss suggestions that Trump himself was part of the staging and that the blood wasn't real blood and he didn't have a real hole in his ear....and that he didn't have a miraculous escape...

just call me a quick fake dot spotter .... re Trump himself being part of the staging... with a blood capsule at the ready when the bullets started flying around like something from The OK Corral in the Wild West...

...

[Bill Ryan]

Chris Martenson is live again in 10 minutes:

Cheatle Evades While More Troubling Questions Emerge About What Happened In “The Other Building“

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=2Mwwfxspytg

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by mountain_jim (here)
I don't think this story matches the audio analysis from any of the researchers

BREAKING: SENATOR JOHNSON CONFIRMS 8 SHELL CASINGS FOUND BY SHOOTERS BODY https://t.co/FJSHMH3gDE

— Jack Poso 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) July 23, 2024

It's to my understanding that this 8 shots fired by Crooks and the 8 shell casing story/information was released by the FBI in a briefing with the PA State Police.

The State Police guy at the Congressional hearing today also mentioned this 8 shell casing information.

It's complete BS in my opinion.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Gwin Ru (here)
Chris Martenson disputes that when looking at the footage in his video starting at the 20:00 mark:

What Chris observes is a video clip of the shooter Crooks on the roof, apparently just before, up to, and just past the first shot or two. Crooks doesn't seem to move or show any typical reaction from shooting a rifle.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
He's holding the rifle and taking aim at his target

Where's the scope? Crooks, from what I can see in this image, is looking into the open air above his rifle and above whatever sights or scope it might have.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
A lot more damning information is being revealed at this hearing today.

WATCH LIVE: Day 2 Secret Service, FBI Congress Hearing on Trump Assassination Attempt

It's sounding like the female SS agent that couldn't holster her pistol after Trump was shot may of been lead agent for the advance team.

Any time stamps (at least for the point about that agent being a lead agent) into that five (5) hour long video? I have more time than most here to view videos each day, but not even my time is infinite

[Gwin Ru]

...

... I think some quoted material got cross-linked?

the relevant portions:

Posted by Gwin Ru (here)

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)

Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
P.S. ... Perhaps Crooks never shot, ...

Don't think that's the case, judging by this footage taken just seconds before the first shots rang out.

[...]

Chris Martenson disputes that when looking at the footage in his video starting at the 20:00 mark:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=03AxTE7R5Cg

Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)

Posted by Gwin Ru (here)
Chris Martenson disputes that when looking at the footage in his video starting at the 20:00 mark:

What Chris observes is a video clip of the shooter Crooks on the roof, apparently just before, up to, and just past the first shot or two. Crooks doesn't seem to move or show any typical reaction from shooting a rifle.

It may be a bit convoluted but what I was trying to convey was that Chris Martenson disputes the general assumption that Crooks fired the first shot and, therefore -based on the acoustics - Chris also doubts that Crooks fired the subsequent 2sd and 3rd shots.

[mountain_jim]

https://x.com/TonySeruga/status/1815831418779623909

Tony Seruga
@TonySeruga
BREAKING NEWS Trump shooter Thomas Matthew Crooks' father speaks for first time since son, 20, was shot dead after trying to kill former president

WARNING: Both parents have spent countless hours with the feds, with no sleep, very little food/drink. Are the feds force feeding them a narrative? In a legitimate investigation, a witnesses testimony should never be steered or aided.

https://dailymail.co.uk/news/article...president.html

(Kind of misleading headline - all he said was)

'We just want to try to take care of ourselves right now. Please, just give us our space,'
The father declined to comment further, but said the family will eventually release a statement when 'our legal counsel advises us to do so.'

https://x.com/paulsperry_/status/1815812870543917367

Paul Sperry
@paulsperry_
--> Trump wants to know more about the local cop who climbed up on the roof, saw the shooter with a rifle, and dropped back down. Why didn't he radio or shout there's a guy on the roof with a gun? What did the cop do after he fell to the ground? Trump wants to know the cop's name

[jaybee]

Posted by mountain_jim (here)

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Paul Sperry
@paulsperry_
--> Trump wants to know more about the local cop who climbed up on the roof, saw the shooter with a rifle, and dropped back down. Why didn't he radio or shout there's a guy on the roof with a gun? What did the cop do after he fell to the ground? Trump wants to know the cop's name

Woah - that would be good if Trump did his own investigation - maybe got a super duper team of private detectives onto it - perhaps he can also get the name(s) of the police who said there were 8 shells by the Shooters body as well........

[norman]

What's the betting his father is going to reinforce the single shooter narrative for a deal to be left alone and not have his own dodgy career nosed into.

Heck, he might even cooperate with a scam to bring Iran into it.

[jaybee]

Posted by norman (here)
What's the betting his father is going to reinforce the single shooter narrative for a deal to be left alone and not have his own dodgy career nosed into.

Heck, he might even cooperate with a scam to bring Iran into it.

bolded...

Or (more seriously) not charged and imprisoned - I saw somewhere that Crooks was supposed to have done a search close to the assassination attempt... about a case where the parent of a 'shooter' was done for their part in allowing it to happen - facilitating it in some way...

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Chris Martenson is live again in 10 minutes:

Cheatle Evades While More Troubling Questions Emerge About What Happened In “The Other Building“

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=2Mwwfxspytg

I'm changing my theory that I've previous posted.

My theory from a previous post:

My theory or gut felt guess: If this was a multi-shooter event (looks like it was)

The kill shot(s), the first 3 shots, 99.9% sure would eliminate Trump came from the 3rd window from the right beneath Crooks.

When the shot burst happened after the first 3 shots, Trump was already on his way down grabbing his head, then was out of view by SS agents covering him. There's no way anyone could be absolutely certain he wasn't bleeding out.

Shots 4 and 5 actually came from Crooks himself.

"Two Mystery Shooters", shots 6 and 7, I would guess their bullets went directly in to Crooks as they were not about to let him escape alive. ( I'm uncertain where shots may of come from: Possibly 1 shot from 2nd story window behind Crooks and the other possibly from water tower)'

Shot 8, sniper behind Trumps left, they probably ordered him to put a bullet in Crooks to make sure he was dead. (plus they needed at least one shot from that area)

My new modified theory: 7-23-2024
The assassin kill shots, (the first 3 shots) came from the 3rd window from the right beneath Crooks.
Shots 4 thru 8 (5 shots) actually came from Crooks himself.
Shot 9 was sniper in 2nd story building window shooting Crooks.
Shot 10 was sniper behind Trumps left shooting Crooks.


2 shooters firing towards Trump - 2 snipers firing towards Crooks?

NOTE:

First 3 shots: (Shooter; Main Assassin in 3rd window below Crooks) Shots sounded muffled like being shot from the inside of a build near an open window.

Next 5 shots: (Shooter; Crooks/Patsy) Sounded like open air shots.

These first 8 shots fall into the FBI fake narrative that they found 8 shell casings by Crooks. I believe they added 3 extra spent shell casings to Crooks spent 5 casings.

Shot 9: (Shooter: Police/SS Sniper in 2nd story window above and behind Crooks) shoots Crooks towards the back of his head behind right ear causing blow out exit wound on Crooks left temple area. (Photo evidence) No evidence of Crooks being shot above his eye with the back of his head blown out. (The shot being called the miracle head shot by sniper is fake IMO)

Shot 10: (Shooter; Police/SS Sniper) This sniper may of been one over by where Trump was; shot was fired approx. 16 seconds after 1st shot. I originally thought it may of been a shot fired at Crooks to make sure he was dead, but, now I'm not so sure. I'm still trying to think of a possible theory for this shot.

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
A lot more damning information is being revealed at this hearing today.

WATCH LIVE: Day 2 Secret Service, FBI Congress Hearing on Trump Assassination Attempt

It's sounding like the female SS agent that couldn't holster her pistol after Trump was shot may of been lead agent for the advance team.

Any time stamps (at least for the point about that agent being a lead agent) into that five (5) hour long video? I have more time than most here to view videos each day, but not even my time is infinite

I was at work and was just walking by my computer when I heard it. No idea what time in the video it was.