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    Default Re: *** Trump Shot (but safe) *** Live Now on all News Channels

    This is what happens when the threat is supposedly real.



    He knows he just has to get to safety as quickly as possible. His security know it too, of course.

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    Default Re: *** Trump Shot (but safe) *** Live Now on all News Channels

    Quote Posted by Gwin Ru (here)
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    Indeed, a display of professional incompetence by design, designed by very competent Psy-Op professionals.
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    • Trump Assassin Was Biden Supporter According To LEAKED Social Media Posts:

    He was not the republican they wanted him to be.
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    • Celebrities Openly Supporting Donald Trump After His Assassination:
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    Quote Posted by Gwin Ru (here)
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    ... at this stage, I am fairly convinced the whole thing was a display of professional incompetence... i.e. the incompetence was by design and designed by very competent professionals.
    I am not sure I am following this... Are you saying that very competent people (professionals) purposefully (i.e. 'by design') created an environment/situation that would not protect the former president in such a way that it would appear to be incompetence rather than a plot to assassinate the former president?
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    ...

    ... in relation to this post #909 about ears and bleeding:

    🩸🩸🩸FOLLOW THE BLOOD WITH JANINE & JEAN-CLAUDE 32:46

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    Streamed on: Jul 26, 11:28 am EDT

    Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/v567zsh

    (no blood on his thumb... ^^^)






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    Default Re: *** Trump Shot (but safe) *** Live Now on all News Channels

    Quote Posted by Vangelo (here)
    Quote Posted by Gwin Ru (here)
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    ... at this stage, I am fairly convinced the whole thing was a display of professional incompetence... i.e. the incompetence was by design and designed by very competent professionals.
    I am not sure I am following this... Are you saying that very competent people (professionals) purposefully (i.e. 'by design') created an environment/situation that would not protect the former president in such a way that it would appear to be incompetence rather than a plot to assassinate the former president?
    There we go... the whole edifice rest on the automatic assumption that Trump was shot at... well, was he really shot at or were the shots aimed randomly at the crowd? That's the first mystery to be solved. Then, his SS security detail team that replaced the veteran one trained at protection, seems to have been trained for photo-op/photo shoots; not protection... then, from, there it's all various chains of "Oooopppsssees!"

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    Default Re: *** Trump Shot (but safe) *** Live Now on all News Channels

    "There are no conspiracies, but there are no coincidences." Steve Bannon

    In order to assume the 'ooopppsssees', two coincidences have to be accepted as fact: security was lapse and a lone wolf shooter happened to pick that day to attack. Too many coincidences are equal to the assumption of conspiracy.

    To assume atop of those incredible coincidences, that there was also a conspiracy perpetrated by the Trump team adds a superfluous layer of credulousness.

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    Default Re: *** Trump Shot (but safe) *** Live Now on all News Channels

    Those who believe this was all faked - here's one more 'conspirator' in on it...



    https://x.com/WarClandestine/status/1816881647045734494




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    Dr. Ronny Jackson provides an update on President Trump’s bullet wound on his ear.

    He tells FBI Director Wray and Congress to correct the record.

    I just find it hilarious how the Left spent the last 8+ years vilifying ANYONE who questioned doctors or media.

    Rules for thee.



    https://x.com/JoshuaLisec/status/1816869885995315435



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    MASS FORMATION HYPNOSIS

    FBI Chief Chris Wray is using a subtle yet noticeable technique to cast doubt on the official story.

    Notice that in the hearing yesterday, Wray gave equal plausibility to bullet OR "shrapnel."

    This assigns EQUAL CLOUT to the known fact that Trump was SHOT . . . and to the Far-Left Conspiracy Theory that he was NOT.

    Wray is now showing, as Scott Adams says, TWO MOVIES ON ONE SCREEN so that the Far Left now has cover to EN MASSE go ahead and FORM what they perceive to be a 100% REASONABLE TAKE that Trump was not, in fact, shot.

    Wray further cast aside the credibility of the known, objective fact that Trump was shot by strategically offering a non-answer to the question of the eight bullets fired.

    Wray just hypnotized half the country into "knowing" Trump was not shot, which gives Kamala the mass media persuasion & energy & sympathy advantage.

    Say it with me:

    "This is what they do."


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    The reason Wray promoted the conspiracy theory that Trump wasn’t shot is powerful information warfare

    The regime is working overtime to erase what we saw and heard from the public mind

    1st they stopped showing it, now they have ‘experts’ telling normies he wasn’t really shot
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    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    He doesn't say "government tries to kill Trump", he clearly says "gunman tries to kill Trump".

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    It occurred to me today that Dave Paulides (from Missing 411, but a former police SWAT team member and one of the best investigators on the planet) might have something to say about this.

    His 'Factual News' videos are no longer on YouTube, now on their own Rumble platform here: https://rumble.com/c/c-5141127. And sure enough, Paulides has shared his own thoughts on the Trump shooting.

    He's so far just published one video on this, 6 days ago. So he's working with the level of public knowledge available at that time. His 24-minute presentation is calm, measured, factual, logical, skeptical, focused, very quietly angry, and everything else one would expect from the man. Of course, he strongly suspects that the Deep State intended Trump to be killed.

    For those readers following the developing investigation closely, there's no startling new information here. But Dave Paulides fans may greatly appreciate it, and I'll certainly watch out for an update, which I suspect may be coming soon.

    https://rumble.com/v57p2fw-missing-4...-paulides.html

    Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/v55ctt0

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    Seruga talks a good game - we will see if anything comes of it.

    https://x.com/TonySeruga/status/1816913079780987070



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    Default Re: *** Trump Shot (but safe) *** Live Now on all News Channels

    ...

    ... Chris Martenson, Mike Adams and John Cullen might want to get their hands on the audio track of this video:




    https://t.me/LauraAbolichannel/59789


    .. which might lend some credence to Max Malone interpretation since I can only distinguish 3 Pfftt - pfftt - pfftt sounds with either the sonic booms missing or the muzzle deflagrations are missing or real close to each other as to agglomerate into one sound. Then, two rapid "Chick - Chick" and all the others are not there/heard. This video being shot from below and behind the SS Sniper team #1.


    Edit:
    "Pfftt" = "Chick-pa-paw" Seems there's some echo there too.

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    This video is done by an arial imagery specialist.

    A very convincing analysis eliminating the possibility of a second shooter being on the water tower....

    Trump Assassination Attempt Analysis - The Water Tower Shooter

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    Posting here for the record *two scenarios* for how this possibly went down. These are just working theories for now based on what we know and what I believe to be true (but they could be disproved at any moment).

    SCENARIO ONE
    Crooks as a lone operator


    In this scenario, the less likely of the two, Crooks was detected as a threat long ago. This is the LIHOP scenario (Let It Happen On Purpose) with Crooks as a wannabe Lee Harvey Oswald, for fame, notoriety, hatred (TDS) – insert your motive of choice. No mitigation measures were deployed against Crooks. Authorities allowed him to proceed unhindered.

    The perceived incompetence of the Secret Service was in fact passive facilitation. In other words, they stood down and let Crooks do what he tried to do. They watched him arrive, scout the area, and climb out onto that roof. They watched him crawl into position and take aim. Snipers probably had him in their sights the whole damn time. Only once he had succeeded in killing Trump did the order come down to take him out.

    Had it been successful the aftermath would've been seriously bad – who knows, even civil-war bad. But good for the sick bastards behind it. The assassination of Trump might be the last-card play of a Deep State in disarray, if only they could get away with it... With the actions of one disturbed young man they were provided with this, the perfect opportunity to rid themselves of Trump forever without even bloodying their hands, or lifting a finger, actually. And they seized it.

    SCENARIO TWO
    Crooks as part of a conspiracy


    We're four months out from an election the Deep State can't afford to lose. The scenario proceeds as above, except in this one "they" take a more active role (they're starting to get desperate). Crooks is first groomed, then recruited, and becomes a witting asset in an unfolding plot to assassinate Trump. The Blackrock ad in which he featured could be a major clue that he was involved with powerful people.

    Though Crooks fired alone, he was not acting alone.

    Owing to encrypted comms discovered on Crooks's phone/devices (I don't believe the Iranian angle for a second), it strongly implies the involvement of a second party. As no second party (accomplice) was discovered at the scene, and no clear evidence points (yet) to any such person existing, we can imagine this hidden second party was Crooks's handlers.

    Aided and abetted all the way
    The size of Crooks's backpack doesn't fit the rifle, and no one saw him with it until he was spotted on the roof. If the rifle was not collapsible (and fitted in the backpack) it's possible it was planted, and was waiting for him on the roof.

    Snipers were positioned in the building directly overlooking the roof along which Crooks was crawling with a rifle. Someone had to have spotted him. That he went unchallenged strongly suggests Crooks was not perceived as a rogue actor, but a confederate. The sniper team were in on it from the beginning.

    After getting into position and lining up his target in the crosshairs, Crooks then began firing his way into history. But did he really get off eight shots? The difference in acoustic signatures between shots 1,2 and 3, and 4,5,6,7, and 8, could be explained by positioning. Firing the first burst from a low, concealed position, could account for their muted quality. But after Trump ducks under the podium, Crooks may have adjusted his angle of fire. Did he lift the bore over the lip of the roof to fire the next five rounds? That might explain the clearer sound of these subsequent shots in the audio recording, thus strengthening the theory of a single shooter. (Chris Martenson makes this suggesting in one of his videos).

    Crooks was also in possession of a detonator for at least one explosive device. One was in his car, but was never used. Were these bombs in place to facilitate an escape? Their type and design, if such details are disclosed, should establish if they were homemade or something more advanced (provided for him).

    Because maybe this wasn't a suicide mission: maybe Crooks had every intention of walking away (or the expectation of being whisked away). The explosives were meant to go off the moment his mission was accomplished, to distract local law enforcement and assist with the getaway. Unfortunately however (for him), he would never get that chance. Just as Oswald before him he'd been set up to take the fall. Patsies never tell any tales because they always end up dead!

    In summary, Crooks was part of a black hat operation and was manoeuvred every step of the way. The goal was the assassination of Trump at that rally. Crooks was meant to kill him. In total he managed eight shots across that stage. And Trump did go down. Perhaps, for all they knew (those running this op), Crooks had succeeded in killing Trump. But they didn't know for sure. Now they had a critical decision to make and only one or two seconds to make it: (A) allow Crooks to keep shooting and make absolutely sure (Trump was dead), or (B) take him out (clean-up mode). For the sake of optics (the snipers had been inactive too long already), they chose (B): eliminate the patsy, hoping he had landed a lethal hit.

    This is where it falls apart for them: he hadn't; Crooks missed! It was a colossal failure, and now they're scrambling.

    But in both scenarios (if either one is true) Crooks was never meant to have missed.

    SCENARIO THREE
    Multiple shooters.
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    Default Re: *** Trump Shot (but safe) *** Live Now on all News Channels

    Quote Posted by Gwin Ru (here)
    ...

    ... Chris Martenson, Mike Adams and John Cullen might want to get their hands on the audio track of this video:





    .. which might lend some credence to Max Malone interpretation since I can only distinguish 3 Pfftt - pfftt - pfftt sounds with either the sonic booms missing or the muzzle deflagrations are missing or real close to each other as to agglomerate into one sound. Then, two rapid "Chick - Chick" and all the others are not there/heard. This video being shot from below and behind the SS Sniper team #1.


    Edit:
    "Pfftt" = "Chick-pa-paw" Seems there's some echo there too.

    I recall that the Chris video from 07/24 lined up audio from 5 different sources and locations, and none of them (as I recall) matched this, but they did agree with each other for more shots than heard here. With likely explanations given for the minor differences due to location.

    Not going back to review for a more accurate recounting at this point.

    Seems like a better methodology to prove rather than just one, (possible modified?) source audio.

    Or perhaps Chris included this one? - not sure.

    from summary at link

    Audio Analysis Raises Troubling Questions

    The Investigation by the FBI and Secret Service is a complete clown show. Our own investigation is firming up and has resolved the high likelihood of two shooters, and raises very troubling questions about who was in the building overlooking both the event itself and Crooks’ position.

    More extensive audio analysis reveals a clear difference between the weapon firing shots #1 through #3. This needs to be addressed by “official” investigators. I put that in quotes because so far this has been nothing short of infuriatingly conducted.

    From washing down the roof, to “releasing” helmet cam ‘evidence’ that has been misleadingly edited, to failing to provide even the most basic accounting of the shots taken and the bullet paths, the investigation would be an embarrassment to the Keystone Cops of old.

    But now many of the mysteries of the audio files have been resolved. Nick and I have debated and reworked and challenged ourselves as thoroughly as anyone could. And then, finally, the clouds have (mostly) parted.

    By analyzing and cross-comparing multiple audio files, including Trump’s mic feed, can say definitively say that shot #9 must have come from a PA LEO asset of some sort, probably an ESU agent if the statement by the Butler County DA Richard Goldinger is correct.

    Which raises many questions, some of them troubling.

    First, that shot came a full 10.1 seconds before the Secret Service sniper’s shot. So what exactly was that ESU agent doing while awaiting that inbound round? Was their shot a “kill shot” as we suspect due to the fact that there wasn’t a second or third (or more) shot?

    Second, where exactly did they take that shot from? Was it the second floor of the adjacent building?

    If so, why didn’t they shoot earlier? Can we see the spent brass from that shot? What sort of weapon did they use? Where’s the bullet now?

    Third, if this shot came roughly a second after the five-shot series (shots 4-8) happened, how did they manage to get into position so quickly?

    Alternatively, we now know that the ESU was in that room on the second floor, overseeing Crook’s position both before the shooting began and then there again to take that kill shot 9.4 seconds after the very first shot was fired. So if the ESU was in there before and 9.4 seconds after the shooting began, were they in there observing Crookks but doing nothing during the shooting? If so, how can this be explained?

    Who else exactly was in that building before and during the shooting? Can anybody account for the whereabouts of the grey-suited man before the shooting began?

    Finally, the investigation rolls on. It’s taking a huge amount of effort, but it’s worth it because everything is on the line.

    Conclusions:

    Shots 1-3 are inconsistent with shots 4–8
    Shot 9 is 100% distinct and is, all probability, the ESU sniper
    Shot 10 is clear and unequivocally the Secret Service Sniper on roof #2.
    Therefore, we remain concerned that the “investigation” is not being conducted properly


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    We need any and all additional footage with audio from anywhere, but especially to the side of the AGR complex.
    Help identifying Trump’s mic make/model and explaining the ‘gating’ we hear.
    Any help with professional audio analysis that can help resolve echoes to determine if we can determine how many of shots 1-8 came from different locations.
    And video or shots of the AGR buildings immediately before the shootings began so we can determine the open/closed status of the windows
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    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
    This video is done by an arial imagery specialist.

    A very convincing analysis eliminating the possibility of a second shooter being on the water tower....

    Trump Assassination Attempt Analysis - The Water Tower Shooter

    He did a very good job on that, and I'm certainly not arguing that there was a shooter on the water tower. But he made a mistake in his math.

    Here's the diagram he used:



    He took the height of the large LCD screen as 25 ft. He arrived at that figure to use because he knew that the screen was 15.30 feet high, and that was 9.07 feet from the ground. His diagram for that (at 11:36 in the video) is here:



    But that height actually totals 24.37 feet — and he rounded it up to 25 feet, "to be a little conservative".

    But that changes everything. "To be a little conservative", he should have rounded it down, not up.

    That lower estimated height for the screen places Trump's head just within the line of sight of a water tower shooter.

    Again, I'm NOT arguing that there had to be a shooter up there. Just that his logic had a flaw.

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    Not sure if this text summary posted - video below and previously posted.

    https://peakprosperity.com/local-aut...ation-attempt/

    Local Authorities Break Ranks on Trump Assassination Attempt!

    The PA State Police are now at odds with the local Butler County authorities and that means there’s a chance this story could break open. So much hinges on exactly who failed to secure that two-story building and how the police could have fumbled Crooks being on the roof with a gun for so long. Hopefully one of them speaks up about the orders they received and who gave them.

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    Local Authorities Break Ranks on Trump Assassination Attempt!

    They say it ain’t over until the fat lady sings. When it comes to cover-ups and getting to the truth, you begin to catch wind of the fat lady when various factions of authority break ranks and begin to tell different tales.

    Well, that just happened, as the local DA for Butler County and the PA State Police began telling wildly different stories about who exactly was in the second story of the second building. You know, the one I have been pointing at with growing interest for more than a week now.

    The one with near-perfect oversight of, and easy access to, the roof that became Crooks’ final destination.

    I explore this and then move on to ABC’s ridiculously ham-handed attempt to shape the narrative about a vitally important piece of US history and completely reveal themselves to be unserious people doing unserious work.

    We now know from Senator Ron Johnson that there was a stupefyingly long 12-minute gap between the final shot and the first PA LEOs to access the roof Crooks was on.

    But ABC tried to present it as if brave police fought their way through a security tape ‘sealed’ chain link fence, then immediately scaled a ladder and secured the roof.

    Instead, there was a 12-minute gap during which time ~100 people could have come and gone out of the open window in the second building that offered a neat little hop down and across to the crime scene.

    12 long minutes to spread brass around, manipulate the scene and do whatever one would like.


    So unless someone can provide unbroken video evidence that nobody went out onto that roof while PA LEOs were milling about waiting for the Okay to go up on the roof, I will remain skeptical about how many spent cases were found.

    Not because I am trying to fit my favored theory that requires there to be either 5 or 0 spent cases, but because there was easy access and 12 minutes is a forever amount of time.

    Also, where is the video showing the “grey-suited man” demanding pics be sent? And how about an unblurred video showing Crook’s body so we can begin to assess whether he had one to two bullets in him, which would help begin to resolve the issue of the ESU sniper shot.

    Onward!

    P.S. We still need:

    The Requests:

    We need any and all additional footage with audio from anywhere, but especially to the side of the AGR complex.
    Help identifying Trump’s mic make/model and explaining the automatic gain reduction we hear.
    Professional audio help to determine how close the rounds were to Trump’s mic.
    Any help with professional audio analysis that can help resolve echoes to determine if we can determine how many of shots 1-8 came from different locations.
    And video or shots of the AGR buildings immediately before the shootings began so we can determine the open/closed status of the windows
    Fast Fourier Transform analysis of the shots and echoes to determine if shots 1-3 and 4-8 and 9 came from noticeably different locations.

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    Default Re: *** Trump Shot (but safe) *** Live Now on all News Channels

    Quote Posted by Gwin Ru (here)
    Quote Posted by Vangelo (here)
    Quote Posted by Gwin Ru (here)
    ...

    ... at this stage, I am fairly convinced the whole thing was a display of professional incompetence... i.e. the incompetence was by design and designed by very competent professionals.
    I am not sure I am following this... Are you saying that very competent people (professionals) purposefully (i.e. 'by design') created an environment/situation that would not protect the former president in such a way that it would appear to be incompetence rather than a plot to assassinate the former president?
    There we go... the whole edifice rest on the automatic assumption that Trump was shot at... well, was he really shot at or were the shots aimed randomly at the crowd? That's the first mystery to be solved. Then, his SS security detail team that replaced the veteran one trained at protection, seems to have been trained for photo-op/photo shoots; not protection... then, from, there it's all various chains of "Oooopppsssees!"
    I was hoping for a simple yes or no. I guess you don't want to clarify what you meant by:
    Quote ... i.e. the incompetence was by design and designed by very competent professionals.
    hmmm...
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