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    An article published by Fox News on July 31st showing Copenhaver's footage of Crooks walking around on the roof contains an important detail. Either I missed it before or this is new information.

    link: Video from Trump assassination attempt victim's POV shows figure moving on roof moments before gunfire

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    Quote Crooks also critically wounded Copenhaver, 74, and David Dutch, 57. Both victims were shot twice, according to those familiar with both victims.
    "Both victims were shot twice". If true, then a total of five shots hit spectators (if Comperatore was hit only once). These five must have come from the second burst of rounds, shots 4 -- 8. A new timeline of these shots needs to be drawn up, and a revised set of trajectories.
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    Rabbi Isser Zalman Weisberg believes Trump has been anointed by God to serve Israel. Maybe that's akin the Twilight Zone's To Serve Man.

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    Quote Like the first non-Jewish messiah, Cyrus, who was chosen to assist the Jews in reestablishing themselves in the land of Israel, after the 70-year exile in Babylon, the current non-Jewish messiah was chosen to be of service to the Jewish people and the Jewish messiah.

    President Trump’s right ear was grazed in a symbolic gesture of Exodus 21:6, where the Torah states that a servant who wants to remain with his master needs to have his right ear pierced.

    Trump was designated as God’s servant and anointed one, just like Cyrus the Great almost 2,400 years ago.

    We have clarified in several videos that the absolute deadline for the redemption is by the end of the Jewish year 5,787, which corresponds to October 2, 2027. Thus, the redemption will surely occur during Donald Trump’s tenure.

    And I have good reason to believe Donald Trump was chosen to be the one to redeem the sins of Azof through offering his assistance in rebuilding the holy temple on the Temple Mount and establishing the Jewish kingdom over all of mankind in Jerusalem.
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    Lets hope Trump has better ideas than that...

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    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    It was premeditated. It was an assassination attempt. It should have been successful.
    Yes.
    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    Trump had supernatural help and survived or he is the luckiest man in the world, maybe both.
    I'd wager that Trump's security knew ahead of time that this assassination attempt was planned, and that they maneuvered the pieces on the chess board in a few subtle ways to improve Trump's odds substantially.

    For example:
    • Perhaps some of the assassin snipers were "persuaded", prior to the event, to miss Trump.
    • Perhaps the cut on Trump's ear was applied manually by one of his agents that piled on top of him.
    • Perhaps the "shoe" thing was deliberately tweaking the Deep State's nose, getting them more desperate.

    This failed assassination attempt ended up benefiting those backing Trump far more than it benefited the deep state. The outcome might not entirely be just luck or just a miracle.

    I would place HIGH odds on a few on Trump's security knowing ahead of time that this attempt was in play. The two "sides" in this grand chess game have been at it for a decade, at least. There's no way, in my mind, that covert intelligence is not a critical capability, for both sides.

    Given that they wouldn't have let Trump show up if they did know he was stepping into a kill box, I would place almost as HIGH odds that Trump's security "tweaked" the game enough to tilt the odds in their favor.

    This is the kind of high stakes poker game that Trump likes to play. He's a natural for that role.
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    Quote Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
    "Both victims were shot twice". If true, then a total of five shots hit spectators (if Comperatore was hit only once). These five must have come from the second burst of rounds, shots 4 -- 8. A new timeline of these shots needs to be drawn up, and a revised set of trajectories.
    • One shot can wound multiple people.
    • I still subscribe to John Cullen's idea that there were more shots -- subsonic rounds from silenced weapons.
    • Yes - a new timeline needs to be drawn up.
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    Quote Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
    Quote Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
    "Both victims were shot twice". If true, then a total of five shots hit spectators (if Comperatore was hit only once). These five must have come from the second burst of rounds, shots 4 -- 8. A new timeline of these shots needs to be drawn up, and a revised set of trajectories.
    • One shot can wound multiple people.
    Not from Crooks's position it can't, unless after striking Copenhaver the bullet turned 45 degrees in mid-air to hit Dutch -- and do it twice!

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    Quote Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
    Quote Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
    • One shot can wound multiple people.
    Not from Crooks's position it can't, unless after striking Copenhaver the bullet turned 45 degrees in mid-air to hit Dutch -- and do it twice!
    Yes - of course. We're not dealing with a JFK assassination "magic bullet" here.

    But we are dealing with multiple shooters, just as we were back then, Nov 1963 in Dallas.

    (hmmm ... if Copenhaver and Dutch were hit with the same bullet, and that bullet flew in a nearly straight line, give or take some wind and gravity deflection, where would that bullet have come from?)
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    https://x.com/AllAngleInsight/status...34636562301138

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    This is the most pathetic press briefing I've ever seen. The Acting director of the Secret Service started out lying and his time line of the days leading up to the event and of the day of the event were a complete joke.


    They should of immediately polygraphed every one involved in the advance team and there that day etc etc etc, background checks, and confiscated all their phone and email records. This is a f**king joke.

    This is massively being covered up and no one will even be held accountable. (unless they throw a few rookies under the bus for optics)


    Here's the full Secret Service press conference, where they took "full responsibility" for the assassination attempt on former President Donald Trump.
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    Chris Martenson is live again in 45 minutes:

    The Unbelievable Security Gap that Allowed Crooks to get in Position


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    The "Shadow Battalion" of incompetent DEI hires and TDS infected Trump haters....

    Quote Rowe said it was Trump's permanent detail working the shift that day (the innermost ring of security protection for Trump or any other protected).

    Not true. The shift was all Candidate Nominee Operations Section or CNOS temps, my sources are telling me. In other words, the shift was made up of various field office agents. It's important because CNOS temps do not train together regularly and don't have regular, steady experience coordinating and working together.

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    Quote Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
    I trust that once Cullen notices all the comments he's getting from people such as myself on this mistake, he'll correct himself and keep digging.
    Cullen posted this comment on his Patreon channel 16 hours ago near the top of the comments for this "Trump is shot at from the right side" video, where I took this "big miss" example from:
    Quote New evidence indicates this ight be a false positive.. That's ok. That's why we have you guys check our work. Forge ahead...
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    The Dan Bongino Show - "A Personal Story From The Secret Service Exposes The Agency 08/02/2024"

    If your time is limited, start at 22 minutes for the last ~34 minutes.



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    P.S. -- Looks like Youtube took down that copy of Bongino's podcast, but it's still available on Bongino's rumble channel, at https://rumble.com/v59fpg4-whistlebl...p-2300-08.html -- ThePythonicCow.
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    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
    . . . . .Who is Paul Whelan?

    Apparently, the problem is that Whelan is accused of espionage which seems to be far more serious than Griner's drug smuggling.
    "As for Whelan, it does appear from what I have seen in the public record that he is a spook," said Boyle. "I am certain that negotiations will continue for his release. The Biden administration will have to offer an equivalent high value prisoner in order to obtain his release. Hopefully this can be accomplished in the immediate future."
    The Paul Whelan case is very difficult, according to Daniel Lazare, investigative journalist and author of "America's Undeclared War."
    "It (…) appears that the Russian government regards his case as more serious than Grinder's case because they believe he was engaged in espionage," Lazare told Sputnik. "Obviously [this is] a much more serious offense. A lot depends on the future course of US-Russian relations. I presume if they were to improve that the chances of Whelan's release would greatly increase. But unfortunately, I see no prospect of that occurring. So it's difficult to make predictions."
    US Marine Corps veteran Whelan is a Canadian national who also has US, British, and Irish citizenship. On December 28, 2018, Russia's Federal Security Service (FSB) arrested him at his room in the Metropol hotel in Moscow after the ex-military serviceman received a flash drive containing a list of employees for a secret Russian agency. For his part, Whelan insisted that he was in Russia only to attend a friend’s wedding. He traveled to Russia several times, apparently, from 2006.
    A former FSB official told Rossiya Segodnya that judging from the circumstances of Whelan's arrest, the Russian counterintelligence agents had thwarted a major operation by US intelligence services. Whelan was convicted on June 15, 2020, and received a 16-year prison sentence.

    While the British mainstream press attempted to depict Whelan as "a Mr. Bean on holiday," he does not appear to be a simpleton.
    From 1988 through 2000, Whelan worked as a police officer on the Chelsea, Michigan, force and as a deputy in the Washtenaw County Sheriff’s Office. It was also reported that Whelan began his military service as a US Marine reservist in 1990 (or 1994) to 2001.
    Between 2003 and 2008, he served in Iraq being part of Operation Iraqi Freedom as a staff sergeant with Marine Air Control Group 38. Either in 2006 or 2007, Whelan spent his two vacation weeks in Moscow and St. Petersburg, Russia, according to the US press.
    At the time of arrest, Whelan worked as director of global security and investigations for BorgWarner, a large automotive components manufacturer with more than 60 offices and manufacturing facilities located in 18 countries. Prior to being hired by BorgWarner, the Canadian-born national worked in global security operations for the office staffing firm Kelly Services. He managed and conducted investigations concerning the company's interests globally.

    According to the US media, Whelan's position at Kelly Services put him in frequent contact with various US federal agencies, including DEA and FBI in the US and Overseas Security Advisory Council (OSAC) at the foreign embassies, to name but a few.
    At the same time, however, the US press tries to cast a shadow on Whelan's resume. US journalists claimed that the ex-Marine was "perhaps the last person" that the US government would use to collect intelligence.
    They said that he did not have diplomatic immunity, something a CIA agent typically has when dispatched to Russia, according to them. Furthermore, they referred to the fact that in January 2008, Whelan was convicted in a special court-martial for attempted larceny, three specifications of dereliction of duty, making a false official statement, and other wrongdoings. While the reported misdeeds do not make Whelan look like James Bond, they don't prove his innocence, either.
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    This seems pretty interesting. If there's any molecule of truth to this, it couldn't be more significant. It appears that the man was trying to access Mar-a-Lago not to harm Trump, but to give him information.
    Chinese Man Arrested for Trespassing at Mar-a-Lago Claims Chinese Govt. Linked to Assassination Attempt



    A Chinese national who was arrested after making multiple attempts to enter Mar-a-Lago claimed he had documents implicating the Chinese government in the attempted assassination of Donald Trump.

    Zijie Li, 38, of El Monte, California repeatedly tried to enter Mar-a-Lago in a car and told Secret Service agents at the gate that he wanted to give them documents proving the Chinese government was involved in the assassination attempt at Butler, Pennsylvania on 13 July.

    Mr Li first attempted to enter Mar-a-Lago at around 8pm on 19 July, less than a week after the shooting. Secret Service agents called the police, who issued Mr Li with a trespass warning and told him he would be arrested if he returned.

    But Mr Li returned 11 days later, on 30 July, and was stopped on Ocean Boulevard near Mar-a-Lago for obstructing traffic. Police discovered that Mar-a-Lago was entered as his destination on his GPS system.

    The next day, he attempted again to enter Mar-a-Lago and, after being turned away, was eventually apprehended at the intersection north of the estate.

    He now faces a single count of trespassing and is being held at the Palm Beach County jail on a $10,000 bond.

    On Friday, he pled not guilty to trespassing. The judge ordered him to have no contact with Mar-a-Lago, Trump or the Trump campaign.

    Mr Li’s arrest is the first security-related arrest at Mar-a-Lago since the attempt on Donald Trump’s life on 13 July.

    Security has been significantly increased at Mar-a-Lago and in the surrounding area, which includes the closure of South Ocean Boulevard.

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    I think it's also significant that Donald Trump himself hasn't made any direct accusations, yet logically he must have his own team working around the clock on who did what and when.
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    It seems somewhat unlikely that the chinese government would have the capabilities to run that kind of complicated operation in the US. Most likely this is a distraction by the guilty party.

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    I feel bemused seeing all these analyses of what happened because I am of the opinion that the deep state is running the show. It is a show that was prepared a long time ago which includes the feeding of lots of trash information after the "assassination" event. Conspiracy theorist then strained their wits to reconstruct the events from the slowly releasing "information". Could this event be one of the first that trash, unvalidated information overwhelms true information, even many days after the conspiratory event? I wonder. Real information is becoming harder to come to the open and we are still absorbing lots of controlled information, which is becoming more and more disguised and so more deceptive. They let you come to your own conclusion. I seriously doubt there was any real assassination at all. Could Netayahu be saying the truth for once when he used the term "apparent assassination"?

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    When an elite government investigatory, intelligence or security entity appears incompetent, it isn’t, it's deceptive.

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    Default Re: *** Trump Shot (but safe) *** Live Now on all News Channels

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    It was premeditated. It was an assassination attempt. It should have been successful.
    Yes.
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    Trump had supernatural help and survived or he is the luckiest man in the world, maybe both.
    I'd wager that Trump's security knew ahead of time that this assassination attempt was planned, and that they maneuvered the pieces on the chess board in a few subtle ways to improve Trump's odds substantially.

    For example:
    • Perhaps some of the assassin snipers were "persuaded", prior to the event, to miss Trump.
    • Perhaps the cut on Trump's ear was applied manually by one of his agents that piled on top of him.
    • Perhaps the "shoe" thing was deliberately tweaking the Deep State's nose, getting them more desperate.

    This failed assassination attempt ended up benefiting those backing Trump far more than it benefited the deep state. The outcome might not entirely be just luck or just a miracle.

    I would place HIGH odds on a few on Trump's security knowing ahead of time that this attempt was in play. The two "sides" in this grand chess game have been at it for a decade, at least. There's no way, in my mind, that covert intelligence is not a critical capability, for both sides.

    Given that they wouldn't have let Trump show up if they did know he was stepping into a kill box, I would place almost as HIGH odds that Trump's security "tweaked" the game enough to tilt the odds in their favor.

    This is the kind of high stakes poker game that Trump likes to play. He's a natural for that role.

    Re, the bolded part:
    That would require Trump to have acted like he got shot.

    I nominate Trump for best actor under fire.
    Excellent fake response. That hand immediately up to the ear, acting as though it really hurt - priceless. The slight hesitation before acting as though a decision was being made to go for cover - true genius!
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