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    The zionist mafia still trying to censor journalists that report the facts about Israel's genocide. Eitheir they kill journalists, or have them imprisoned.
    I was shocked and saddened to learn what they did to Richard Medhurst, just today. I very much like him, and have never seen anything advocating terrorism in his reports.
    On the other hand, there is so much evidence of apartheid Israel behaving like a terrorist.
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    https://sputnikglobe.com/20240820/in...119835150.html

    Independent Journalist Arrested Under Terrorism Act in UK

    August 19, 2024

    Independent Journalist Richard Medhurst was arrested in the UK on Thursday under the UK’s Terrorism Act 2000, according to a video he posted Monday on X recounting the experience.

    “On Thursday, as I landed in London’s Heathrow airport, I was immediately escorted off the plane by six police officers who were waiting for me at the entrance of the aircraft. They arrested me – not detained – they arrested me under Section 12 of the Terrorism Act of 2000 and accused me of allegedly ‘expressing an opinion or belief that is supportive of a proscribed organization’ but wouldn’t explain what this meant,” Medhurst says in the video.

    Section 12 of the Terrorism Act 2000 has a clause that was added in 2019 that made it illegal to “expresses an opinion or belief that is supportive of a proscribed organization” if “in doing so is reckless as to whether a person to whom the expression is directed will be encouraged to support a proscribed organization.”

    Medhurst’s reporting has focused heavily on the Israeli-Gaza war and has spoken out against funding Ukraine. He also posted about the very act that he was arrested for.

    “The fascist ‘terrorism act’ being used to hold activists without charge or trial because they tried to stop actual terrorism and genocide by the IDF," Medhurst posted the same day he was arrested. Medhurst was referring to Palestinian activists who have been detained recently under the Terrorism Act.

    “I was arrested at Heathrow Airport under the Terrorism Act, Sec 12 because of my reporting.
    6 police officers were waiting for me at the entrance of the aircraft.
    I was held for almost 24 hours and questioned.
    I believe I'm the first journalist to be arrested under this… pic.twitter.com/pbf6q5dXIf
    — Richard Medhurst (@richimedhurst) August 19, 2024”

    Medhurst says he was then handcuffed and transferred to a police station where he was searched and his electronic devices seized.

    “I was placed in solitary confinement, in a cold cell that smelled like urine. There was barely any light and the bed, if you can even call it a bed, was simply a small concrete ledge with a paper-thin mattress. The cell had no windows, no heating, no toilet paper. I was recorded 24/7 with audio and video, even when going to the toilet. I had to eat food with a piece of cardboard you’re supposed to fold in two in order to scoop up the meal,” Medhurst said, describing the conditions he was held in.
    He was then held for nearly 24 hours without being allowed to contact his family and his attempts to speak to a solicitor (UK legal advisor) were hindered and possibly monitored.

    “The police said that I have the right to inform someone that I’m locked up. So I said okay, I want to call my family, then they go ‘Well, your calls are withheld due to the nature of the alleged offense’ I tried to ask well, what’s the point of a right if you can just randomly withdraw it? Why tell me that I have this right at all? And one of them said something along the lines of ‘Well, it’s not an absolute right, it can be waived,’” Medhurst described.

    “For many hours, no one in the world knew what had happened to me or where I was. Only the police could call a solicitor for me. I had to ask four or five different guards for several hours before I finally received a call. Some of my solicitor’s calls did not get through or were not answered. One of the calls -my solicitor was told- would be monitored, and so they simply refused to take it. I asked to speak to the solicitor afterwards when that happened but I was not allowed to.”

    “In total, I spent almost 24 hours in detention. At no point whatsoever was I allowed to speak to a family member or friend. After waiting 15 hours, I was finally interviewed by two detectives,” Medhurst says the interview lasted 60 to 90 minutes.

    Medhurst emphasized that he denies all accusations by the police, noting that his parents held Nobel Peace Prizes for their work as UN peacekeepers and he “categorically and unequivocally” condemns terrorism.

    “Those like myself, who are speaking up and reporting on the situation in Palestine are being targeted. I had booked my ticket to London on the same day and yet an entire team of police were mobilized to arrest and question me. This is why I felt this was a preplanned, coordinated arrest. Many people have been detained in Great Britain because of their journalism, sometimes under the Terrorism Act, sometimes not. I think of Julian Assange, Craig Murray, Kit Klarenberg, David Miranda, Vanessa Beeley. As far as I am aware, I am the only journalist, however, to have been arrested and held for up to 24 hours under section 12 of the Terrorism Act.”

    Medhurst said that he now feels he has a “muzzle” put on him, and does not know if he will be charged with the crime he was arrested for or if he will be put in jail in a few months, something that makes his work more difficult. “I simply do not know if or how I can work at all during the next month.

    Former UN weapons inspector and geopolitical analyst Scott Ritter, whose house was raided by the United States FBI earlier this month for alleged violations of the Foreign Agents Registry Act, called the arrest “political persecution” designed to “hamper [Medhurst’s] important work as a journalist.”

    “Freedom of the press, freedom of speech really are under attack. The state is cracking down and escalating to try and stop people from speaking out against our government’s complicity in genocide, please do not just stand with me, but with the others who are still inside,” Medhurst concluded.
    UK authorities have not commented on Medhurst’s arrest. His website currently displays an error page but it is not clear if Medhurst removed it voluntarily, at the direction of UK authorities, or if the site was taken down by service providers. Sputnik has reached out to Medhurst for clarification and will update this space if he replies.
    Yes, pretty shocking stuff. Craig Murray suspects that the order to make the arrest probably originated from the security services (MI-5, or MI-6) and further signed off by the Home Office. Any one of the arresting officers may well have been a security services employee. I'll cross-post this to another appropriate thread.

    Here's Richard Medhurst's 8 minute update on what he experienced:

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    Default Re: Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

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    Quote Posted by bojancan (here)
    If this is true... really bombshell.... I can see this being true.... since it is the same Ex-President that had the republican party down vote/cancel the border bill...

    I am very interested with RFKj... because.. he is also very very pro Israel... those two men, if they unite... should working with empathies for Palestinian people too... for Palestinian children... not only for ISRAEL!

    BOMBSHELL: Trump Commits TREASON With Netanyahu! | The Kyle Kulinski Show

    There is no reason to believe the report in the first video is true. No other source has substantiated the claims. If I'm misinformed on this point, I hope someone will point me to further evidence.
    Kyle Kulinski is a rabid, foaming-at-the-mouth Trump hater. I'd personally recommend any reader here to disregard anything he says or claims.
    Sorry Bill... ah, thank you for your input...
    But to say for Kyle to be in that kind of your characterization... not for me... yes, I know, he is liberal... so what?
    He is very critical about democrats, about Biden too and his supporters as he is critical for opposite side of MAGA and their cult lieder Trump also... everyone is free to express their own stance on issues these moments..

    I see on other sides... with MAGA so much gaslighting too and not reporting the truth..
    With that said... we are agreeing to disagree Bill...
    I respect you!
    Thank you...
    The problem with this KK guy is not that he is a liberal,thats a political choice to be respected.Its because he is a sensationalist, spreading lies but never (as far ive seen)corrects himself.Please dont post this polarizing ,gossipy type of videos on this very serious thread ,thank you.
    I don't know enough about Kyle Kulinsky to pass judgment about him now. However, the issue in the original post was that somebody else (couldn't get the name of that woman) was recorded saying that during a recent phone call between Trump and Netanyahu, Trump requested him to continue to genocide the Palestinians as this would tarnish the Dems and make them loose the November elections. That's the issue here. Who exactly made this allegation, and has it been proven true or not? That's the issue.

    I must admit that it sounds very plausible, unfortunately. I very much suspect that Natanyahu and Trump would be capable of such devious cruelty.

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    18,000,000,000+ US TAX DOLLARS AID FOR ISRAHELL 🇮🇱 FOR 2024 ALONE? WTF?
    • us tax dollars at work:
    No need to follow anyone, only consider broadening (y)our horizon of possibilities ...

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    Default Re: Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

    Quote Posted by Rizotto (here)
    Quote Posted by gini (here)
    Quote Posted by bojancan (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by T Smith (here)
    Quote Posted by bojancan (here)
    If this is true... really bombshell.... I can see this being true.... since it is the same Ex-President that had the republican party down vote/cancel the border bill...

    I am very interested with RFKj... because.. he is also very very pro Israel... those two men, if they unite... should working with empathies for Palestinian people too... for Palestinian children... not only for ISRAEL!

    BOMBSHELL: Trump Commits TREASON With Netanyahu! | The Kyle Kulinski Show

    There is no reason to believe the report in the first video is true. No other source has substantiated the claims. If I'm misinformed on this point, I hope someone will point me to further evidence.
    Kyle Kulinski is a rabid, foaming-at-the-mouth Trump hater. I'd personally recommend any reader here to disregard anything he says or claims.
    Sorry Bill... ah, thank you for your input...
    But to say for Kyle to be in that kind of your characterization... not for me... yes, I know, he is liberal... so what?
    He is very critical about democrats, about Biden too and his supporters as he is critical for opposite side of MAGA and their cult lieder Trump also... everyone is free to express their own stance on issues these moments..

    I see on other sides... with MAGA so much gaslighting too and not reporting the truth..
    With that said... we are agreeing to disagree Bill...
    I respect you!
    Thank you...
    The problem with this KK guy is not that he is a liberal,thats a political choice to be respected.Its because he is a sensationalist, spreading lies but never (as far ive seen)corrects himself.Please dont post this polarizing ,gossipy type of videos on this very serious thread ,thank you.
    I don't know enough about Kyle Kulinsky to pass judgment about him now. However, the issue in the original post was that somebody else (couldn't get the name of that woman) was recorded saying that during a recent phone call between Trump and Netanyahu, Trump requested him to continue to genocide the Palestinians as this would tarnish the Dems and make them loose the November elections. That's the issue here. Who exactly made this allegation, and has it been proven true or not? That's the issue.

    I must admit that it sounds very plausible, unfortunately. I very much suspect that Natanyahu and Trump would be capable of such devious cruelty.
    I thought... that in Avalon we are free to talk and exchange our view points... what ever it is... with good intentions of course... specially in this thread... but with accusation of me, to spread lies and sensationalist's posts of some independent narrators, reporters... that is accusations and not fair... GINI!

    I red and listen through very important reporting with many good researchers ... who diligently want to change status Quo with Palestine.. and you Gini accused and tell me, do not post that or that... You get it! I am off of that kind of behaviour and friendship...

    If I would go all along with months and years back... I could say for sensationalistic talk and behaviour this man... Trump... who will be MAYBE your king... and who is very proponent of GENOCIDE of Palestinian people...he is that rol model man for sensationalist behaviour! You can have him.... also RFKj is in the same criminal line... we know about all Trump's political moves, actions... in his years of presidency... very very bad for Palestine! With that also for US... this stand for Palestine will go on and on with two zionists together...

    I will still listen Kyle... both, wife Krystal and him... they are very critical of Israel criminalities... see this bloody acts of horror over Palestinian people with sadness and horror...
    With that said... I am OFF!

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    Default Re: Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

    Quote Posted by bojancan (here)
    I thought... that in Avalon we are free to talk and exchange our view points... what ever it is...
    Yes. But in your case, you bang your Trump-critical drum OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER again.

    There are some things I feel very strongly about, and believe I understand very well. I might post my views about those items once every few months.

    LESS IS MORE.



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    Default Re: Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

    Almost the same thing happened to me back in the days of 2017th

    I live in Stockholm the capital of Sweden.

    Had attended a company christmas celebration evening, all gay, no complains, had had 2 beers (that was the limit from my company).
    I decided to take a shortcut thru the subway. You know I had this card valid for a month's using busses or subways for free.

    Walked along the train rails, to reach my shortcut.

    2 security black dressed guards a male and a female, stoped me, "Hey where you think youre going?"
    I cheerfully replied "I'm on my way home"

    They replyed
    -No your not.
    I said
    -Yeas I am!

    Then trying to bypass them, they stood in my way.
    I still thought they were pulling my leg as a joke.

    But they didnt. Instead they said I had used "force" against them, leaving them no other choise to use force towards me,

    At this point I realised this is for real.

    So they put my arm in a "police man grip" were its behind your back and it it hurts.
    I screamed out of pain and begged them not to do so, but they did.

    As they walked me to the escalator from the Rådhuset subway station hurting my arm, I noticed a camera team prepared to film me in the parallel escalator.
    It was all staged! and I was the moivie star!

    still bending my arm behind my back, I watched the filming guy and the sound guy holding a sound boom thingy as we traveled upwards. I screamed to them WHAT ARE YOU DOING? PLEASE HELP ME!

    They just kept filming, and at the top of the escalator the Police was allready in place to put me in a "Fyllecell", a room within the poiice building with "paper thin matrasses" and no toilet or windows.

    I later heard there is a tv program on channel 5, called the subway.
    Obviously I waqs their object for that episode.

    I havn't told this story to anyone before, because it's so "crazy" no one would believe me!

    Thanks for reading this far

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    Default Re: Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    ... OVER and OVER and ...
    I think you under counted. I see 404 posts on this thread by bojancan but only 42 repetitions of the word "OVER" in your response
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    Default Re: Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

    Quote Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    ... OVER and OVER and ...
    I think you under counted. I see 404 posts on this thread by bojancan but only 42 repetitions of the word "OVER" in your response
    In fairness, bojancan feels very passionately about the Palestinian cause and the plight of the slaughtered tens of thousands in Gaza. Most of his 404 posts are about those important issues.

    The problem is where Trump is brought into the equation. Most readers here already know something of Trump's views on Israel and are disappointed by his stance. (And the same goes regarding Tulsi Gabbard, Elon Musk, JD Vance, and RFK Jr.)

    However bojancan, who does not know how to communicate his points in such a way that they might be best understood, and who sees himself as an obsessed, self-appointed Trump prosecutor, takes advantage of every tiny opportunity to make the same points

    ...OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER again.


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    In fairness, bojancan feels very passionately about the Palestinian cause and the plight of the slaughtered tens of thousands in Gaza. Most of his 404 posts are about those important issues.
    Good point ... I didn't notice that this was the "Israel vs Palestine" thread ... I had in mind another thread to which bojancan has also made substantial contributions.
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    According to the article below, it was PBS’ Judy Woodruff who alledged there was a phone call between Trump and Natanyahu to prolong the genocide of Palestinians to make Harris lose the elections. They now deny those claims.
    (Will we ever know the truth?)

    https://english.almayadeen.net/news/...o-block-harris
    Did Trump advise Netanyahu to reject ceasefire to block Harris win?

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    "The Grayzone's Max Blumenthal and Aaron Mate examine how AIPAC used billions of dollars to launder attacks on Rep. Cori Bush, a progressive critic of the US-Israeli special relationship, behind a series of stealth organizations that made no mention of Israel or Palestine."

    How AIPAC' stealthily brought down Cori Bush

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    Quote Posted by Rizotto (here)
    According to the article below, it was PBS’ Judy Woodruff who alledged there was a phone call between Trump and Natanyahu to prolong the genocide of Palestinians to make Harris lose the elections. They now deny those claims.
    (Will we ever know the truth?)

    https://english.almayadeen.net/news/...o-block-harris
    Did Trump advise Netanyahu to reject ceasefire to block Harris win?
    in the article is written "Both Netanyahu's office and Trump denied the claims"...and:'During a press conference in New Jersey on Thursday, Trump mentioned their meeting at Mar-a-Lago from the previous month, saying: “I did encourage him to get this over with. You want to get it over with fast. Have victory, get your victory, and get it over with. It has to stop, the killing has to stop,” '

    By the way i wonder what would be the fate of a presidential candidate if he would speak the truth about Israel. Perhaps sometimes you have to play along to get something substantial done,me thinks..

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    According to the article below, it was PBS’ Judy Woodruff who alledged there was a phone call between Trump and Natanyahu to prolong the genocide of Palestinians to make Harris lose the elections. They now deny those claims.
    (Will we ever know the truth?)

    https://english.almayadeen.net/news/...o-block-harris
    Did Trump advise Netanyahu to reject ceasefire to block Harris win?
    in the article is written "Both Netanyahu's office and Trump denied the claims"...and:'During a press conference in New Jersey on Thursday, Trump mentioned their meeting at Mar-a-Lago from the previous month, saying: “I did encourage him to get this over with. You want to get it over with fast. Have victory, get your victory, and get it over with. It has to stop, the killing has to stop,” '

    By the way i wonder what would be the fate of a presidential candidate if he would speak the truth about Israel. Perhaps sometimes you have to play along to get something substantial done,me thinks..
    Agreed. One more thing. The attempted assassination of Trump occurred not that long after he publicly commented on the assassination of Iranian general Soleimani, that he was very displeased that Netanyahu withdrew Israel's participation in that assassination at the last minute, letting Trump proceed with it on his own.

    It's most likely that Netanyahu didn't want Israel participation in that assassination made public. And he most likely was concerned about Trump's public disapproval of him personally. It's easy to imagine all sorts of grim scenarios about the fate of high profile individuals who dare to criticize Netanyahu, and especially those who expose his perfidy.

    Keeping in mind that the Biden administration has been doing everything that Netanyahu asked for, while Trump remains a loose cannon ball with a big mouth, I for one wouldn't be surprised that Netanyahu would prefer the Dems to win the elections...

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    Note to the mods: Please remove this post if not appropriate here.
    It’s not entirely clear that the story below belongs in the Israel vs Palestine thread. But I see some indications that this is where it’s leading to. Here's why.

    After the recent arrest of Richard Medhurst at a UK airport, under accusations of supporting terrorism, now another shocking arrest: the owner of Telegram, Pavel Durov, has just been arrested in France under charges of supporting terrorism also.

    It’s clear that Richard Medhurst’s reports & analysis were reflecting negatively on Israel and Ukraine.
    Was this the case too with Pavel Durov, a Russian citizen? (Looks like he recently became French citizen too.) I don’t know anything about Durov’s position of Israel, Ukraine, Palestine. Perhaps some PA members can elucidate this matter.
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    https://www.rt.com/news/603040-durov...n-us-pressure/

    WATCH what Durov told Carlson about US pressure
    American security agencies have been trying to get more control over Telegram for a long time, the tech entrepreneur believes


    Telegram CEO and founder Pavel Durov told American conservative journalist Tucker Carlson that he was getting “too much attention” from the FBI and other law enforcement agencies while on US soil, according to an interview released in April, several months prior to his arrest in France.

    He has also claimed that US agencies had tried to recruit Telegram employees and convince them to create a backdoor into the messenger.

    The Russian-born tech billionaire was arrested by French authorities in a Paris airport on Saturday, reportedly on charges related to his alleged complicity in fraud, drug trafficking, cyberbullying, and promoting terrorism. However, Ekaterina Mizulina, the head of Russia’s Safe Internet League, suggested that France was acting at the behest of the United States.

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    https://sputnikglobe.com/20240825/ce...119899238.html

    Censorship, Suppression of Free Speech at Heart of Telegram Crackdown – Ex-CIA Analyst

    Excerpt (quoting Larry Johnson):
    “They're going to charge him (Telegram founder Pavel Durov) with terrorism because he has refused to censor certain groups, people that support Hamas are allowed to communicate freely on Telegram. Telegram is one of the few channels that actually allows information that's critical of Western policy to go on. I think that's really at the root of this.”

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    "“I am a Jew. In spite of that, indeed because of that, I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war. This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of silence … I was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks’ notice that [Adolf] Eichmann [key architect of the Holocaust] planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers … [Rezso] Kasztner [leader of Hungary’s Zionist movement] went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’”
    - Rudolf Vrba, the first Jew to escape Auschwitz (extract from his memoirs)

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    Source: Jonathan Cook blog

    Jonathan Freedland rewrites history to hide an ugly truth about Israel

    August 25, 2024 by Jonathan Cook

    The Guardian columnist has to twist the story of the first Jew to escape Auschwitz because a true biography of Rudolf Vrba would expose the Zionist movement’s collusion with the Nazis

    Tony Greenstein offers an excoriating account of how Guardian columnist Jonathan Freedland distorted the historical record in his biography of Rudolf Vrba, the first Jew to escape Auschwitz.

    One might wonder why Vrba’s incredible story has been buried for decades, given how keen Hollywood is to make Holocaust movies.

    Greenstein explains. Vrba’s efforts in early 1944 to warn other Jews of their coming fate in the Nazi death camps were betrayed by European leaders of the Zionist movement, who silenced him.

    That movement was prepared to sacrifice hundreds of thousands of Jews in return for the Nazis escorting the Zionist elite out of danger in Europe to Palestine. There the Zionist movement was already well-advanced in its preparations to expel the native Palestinians and build a self-declared Jewish state on the ruins of their homeland.

    The Zionists’ attitude reflected that of the movement’s founding father, Theodor Herzl: “The anti-Semites will become our most dependable friends, the anti-Semitic countries our allies.”

    Vrba was hugely critical of the Zionist movement for collaborating with the Nazis, and had no love for the Jewish state it spawned.

    In 1961, the Daily Herald published an extract from Vrba’s memoir, cited by Greenstein, in which he wrote:
    "“I am a Jew. In spite of that, indeed because of that, I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war. This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of silence … I was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks’ notice that [Adolf] Eichmann [key architect of the Holocaust] planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers … [Rezso] Kasztner [leader of Hungary’s Zionist movement] went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’”
    Kasztner’s betrayal of those Jews, dooming them to the Nazi gas chambers, was later justified by Israel’s attorney general, Haim Cohen, in the following terms:
    “He was entitled to make a deal with the Nazis for the saving of a few hundred and entitled not to warn the millions… That was his duty … It has always been our Zionist tradition to select the few out of many in arranging the immigration to Palestine… Are we to be called traitors?”
    It is on that basis that Israel’s Holocaust museum Yad Vashem has effectively excised Vrba’s astonishing story from its halls, and why Israeli schoolchildren learn nothing of Vrba. It’s also presumably why Hollywood has never picked up the most Hollywood story to come out of the Holocaust.

    The anti-Zionist Vrba’s story exposes the ideological foundations of Israel to be fully in sympathy with ugly European ethic nationalisms that culminated in Nazism. His story explains how Israel was always capable of, and is now committing, a genocide in Gaza.

    When ideology becomes more important than human life, people – even those you see as your own – become expendable. They come to be treated as a pawns in a savage game of power politics. David Ben Gurion, Israel’s founding father, gave voice to precisely this sentiment in December 1938, as Nazi pogroms against Jews in Germany raged:
    “If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel.”
    Freedland’s task in his book The Escape Artist was to appropriate Vrba’s story, strip out its anti-Zionist message, and incorporate it into the now-dominant Zionist narrative carefully crafted after the Second World War.

    That is why the biography has received awards and endless gushing praise from the usual suspects. Vrba’s life story is doubtless now ready for a Hollywood makeover – one that, should it happen, will greatly enrich Freedland.

    Thanks to his efforts, the threat posed by the true story of Vrba has been neutralised. That accords with the wider fate of anti-Zionist Jews – their existence is either ignored or sanitised to accord with a self-serving Zionist interpretation of history.

    That process continues to this day:

    The many anti-Zionist Jews who supported Jeremy Corbyn were either ignored or driven out of the Labour party because they undermined the bogus antisemitism narrative Freedland and many others promoted to get rid of a leader who genuinely supported the Palestinian people’s right to statehood.

    And the many anti-Zionist Jews who attend the marches to protest the genocide in Gaza have been disappeared because they give the lie to the establishment media’s efforts to paint those marches as antisemitic.

    Note that Israeli leaders like prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu have made close alliances, just as Herzl recommended, with openly antisemitic states like Viktor Orban’s Hungary. They have continued in the tradition begun by Kasztner, who saved himself and his Zionist friends by sacrificing hundreds of thousands of Hungarian Jews.

    Note too that for decades Israeli governments have been moving relentlessly rightwards, to the point now that senior government ministers openly declare themselves to be “Jewish fascists”.

    Nonetheless, their Zionist ideology is little different from their supposedly “moderate” predecessors. The chief difference is that they are unapologetic in their Jewish supremacism and loud-mouthed in their contempt for Palestinian life. Zionism is simply coming out of a closet it was partially forced into by the rhetorical need to claim a moral basis for its actions and by concerns about placating western publics.

    It is not the self-declared fascist Smotrich committing a genocide in Gaza. It is Israel’s establishment generals and its citizen army.

    Greenstein recently published an important book, Zionism During the Holocaust, that deals extensively with the collusion of those who helped to found Israel with the Nazis. I recommend everyone seek it out.
    “If a man does not keep pace with [fall into line with] his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away.” - Thoreau

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    This is an EXTREMELY valuable, insightful and important presentation from Alastair Crooke, explaining that the recent western media accounts of the exchange of missiles with Hezbollah were almost entirely false and disconnected from the reality of what actually happened.

    The simple video title below doesn't do justice to the breadth and depth that this covers.

    Western Propaganda Wars


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