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    From the report of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation dated September 27, 2024.

    The enemy's losses for yesterday were:
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    🔵 2485 military personnel
    🔵 25 units of armored vehicles, including 2 tanka
    🔵 31 artillery system
    🔵 two combat vehicles of the multiple launch rocket system (no specification)
    🔵 51 units of special vehicles
    🔵 25 UAVs
    🔵 counter-battery station (no specification)
    🔵 three electronic warfare stations (no specification)
    🔵 twelve field ammunition depots
    ➖➖➖
    From September 21 to 27, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation carried out 33 group strikes with high-precision weapons, including Kinzhal hypersonic aeroballistic missiles, as well as strike UAVs, which resulted in the destruction of enterprises of the military-industrial complex of Ukraine and the energy facilities that supported their work, the infrastructure of military airfields, as well as a military echelon with Western weapons and equipment, production workshops and storage sites for UAVs and unmanned aerial vehicles, arsenals, ammunition and fuel depots.
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    🗺 Within a week, units of the Southern Group of Forces liberated the settlements of Grigorovka and Ostroe in the Donetsk People's Republic .
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    🚩 Over the course of a week, units of the Center group of forces liberated the settlements of Ukrainsk and Marinovka in the Donetsk People's Republic .
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    During the week, air defense systems shot down an ATACMS operational-tactical missile , 10 Neptune long-range guided missiles, two HARM anti-radar missiles, two S-200 anti-aircraft guided missiles converted to hit ground targets, 20 Hammer guided aerial bombs, 39 HIMARS and Vampire rockets, as well as 482 UAVs , including 164 outside the special military operation zone.
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    Black Sea Fleet aviation destroyed six Ukrainian unmanned boats .
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    Over the course of a week, 66 Ukrainian servicemen surrendered on the contact line.

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    * For the second day in a row, the Russian Aerospace Forces launched a massive strike on the airfield in Starokonstantinov using the Kinzhal complex. In total, 8 hypersonic missiles hit the airfield in two days.
    * The Russian Armed Forces managed to finally encircle the city of Ugledar. Over the course of the day, Russian troops threw leaflets at the positions of the Ukrainian Armed Forces with an offer to surrender.
    * Every day, more and more video evidence of further Russian advances along the entire line of combat contact is coming in. Over the past 24 hours, the greatest advance has been achieved in the Toretsk direction.
    * Ukrainian sources report a large-scale Russian offensive in the Kupyansk direction. In total, up to 50 units of heavy equipment were used in the offensive.
    * Information is coming in about the beginning of the withdrawal of units from the Kursk direction. Syrsky is gradually replacing combat units with territorial defense troops.

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    ❗️In the early morning, Russian troops carried out a targeted strike on the building of the District Police Department in Krivoy Rog . The scene reports heavy activity of ambulances, fire trucks and emergency services.

    Approximate coordinates: 47.9064158, 33.3440722

    🔻At the moment, it is known about 12 killed and 28 wounded employees of the Ukrainian security forces, how many are under the rubble is unknown. Local authorities have already indirectly confirmed the information, indicating that the strike was carried out on the administrative building of the city.

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    Quote Posted by Vicus (here)
    even shrapnel damage from a nearby blast could put an F-16 out of action

    Although this is a nearly insignificant factor, because multiple squadrons of F-16s will do Ukraine no avail, this is exactly what Hezbollah can work to its advantage in Israel. Haven't heard if it worked yet, but, things are leaning that way.

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    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)
    Quote Posted by avid (here)
    https://www.ukcolumn.org/video/peace...-minister-modi
    A great discussion with UKColumn promoting peace, discussions with Scott Ritter and Major General GD Bakshi trying to resolve conflict.
    Quote Posted by Michel Leclerc (here)
    I have had to interrupt my viewing of the three-people panel discussion you have posted Tintin – regretfully so, because it is of the highest degree of information quality, analytical power, psychological perspicacity and beyond any self-indulgence or mythomania. I plan to watch the rest tomorrow.
    It took me a minute (or a few thereof) to decode Michael's post, since I've not been focused on this thread, but I take it that Michel's mention of a "three-people panel" refers to the "great discussion" that avid posted and Tintin quoted.

    I came by this thread to post what seems to me to be a quite insightful analysis of the events that have been unfolding, partially behind the scenes, over the decades (centuries, actually) and days, that led to this escalation of tensions between NATO and Russia.

    It seems that:
    • The long standing British talent for meddling in the affairs of other nations, to get them fighting each other, both within and between nations, is still afoot, and was a key impetus in this latest escalation of tensions between Russia and NATO.
    • However some key US Military leaders decided that blowing up the world on their watch was not such a hot idea after all.
    All this is spelled out, in delicious detail, in Alex Krainer's latest post on his TrendCompass Substack:
    Was there a palace coup at the White House?

    Antony Blinken's foreign policy conduct has been
    a textbook recipe for a mutiny in the military ranks.
    Alex begins with:
    Did we just have a palace coup in Washington?

    The events have taken a very strange turn in Washington DC this month. Britain's new cabinet has made it a priority to escalate the West's proxy war against Russia and to bring the U.S. and other allies onboard by hook or by crook. Part of the agenda was enabling the Ukrainians to strike at Russia with western supplied long-range precision missiles. This wouldn't be a new thing exactly, but the escalation they are gunning for is quite substantial, involving possibly even nuclear weapons.
    Alex concludes, after a delightful survey of the history British entanglements in the affairs of other nations, including the U.S. and including in this latest affair, with:
    In fact, the most recent episode hopefully helped dispel the idea that the imperial adventures are all hatched in the U.S. and that the UK is only being dragged along reluctantly, their only fault being their unshakeable, steadfast loyalty.

    Incidentally, that’s the same defence Prince Andrew used to explain his continuing friendship with the convicted sexual predator Jeffrey Epstein (the Prince’s only regret was being "too honourable"). The truth is that through channels unseen and unknown, London is often in the driver’s seat when it comes to fomenting dirty tricks and military misadventures in defence of the empire. Again, the more you pay attention to this, the more unmistakeable the relationship becomes.

    Whatever the case may be, if there was indeed a mutiny at the Pentagon and a palace coup in the White House, the escalation to World War III might have been averted, and this would be the best news you'll read all day today.
    I left all the above with a couple of thoughts:
    • Would it be that the Independence that the several States declared from the Crown on July 4 of 1776, and that we Yanks are taught in school we achieved on October 19, 1781, at exactly 10:30 am in Yorktown, Virginia, with American Continental General George Washington's improbable victory over British Lieutenant General Charles Cornwallis, had actually, even now some 248 years later, finally been achieved.
    • I fantasized being U.S. President and having my administration arrest a number of British diplomats, bankers and intelligence agents for FARA violations: Failing to Register as Foreign Agents. However a key significance of our oft noted "special relationship" seems to be immunity from such petty annoyances, and furthermore my fantasy kept turning sour when I recognized that the globalists (puppets of the City) propensity for confession through projection might instead result in some Libertarian Republicans who adamantly oppose America's chronic foreign entanglements being arrested for FARA violations.
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    It seems that:[LIST][*]The long standing British talent for meddling in the affairs of other nations, to get them fighting each other, both within and between nations, is still afoot, and was a key impetus in this latest escalation of tensions between Russia and NATO.

    "In fact, the most recent episode hopefully helped dispel the idea that the imperial adventures are all hatched in the U.S. and that the UK is only being dragged along reluctantly, their only fault being their unshakeable, steadfast loyalty."

    "The truth is that through channels unseen and unknown, London is often in the driver’s seat when it comes to fomenting dirty tricks and military misadventures in defence of the empire. Again, the more you pay attention to this, the more unmistakeable the relationship becomes
    ."
    Yes, of course, and I've made the point before several times on this thread: most if not all the decision making is being driven as much by London as it is in DC. This is no surprise to those of us familiar with the Anglo-American hegemony for world domination outlined in the correspondences, printed articles even, of the Rhodes Round Circle in the late 19th century.

    *Boris Johnson wasn't under instructions from Washington DC or Sleepy Joe when he scuppered the Istanbul draft peace treaty of March 2022. That decision would have come from London and the real power brokers there behind-the-scenes.

    It's taking some commentators a heck of a long time to catch up, isn't it Better late than never in this instance.

    (* Boris Johnson's memoirs named "Unleashed" are apparently being serialised in some UK papers at present and one pearl from that is a - get this, and the popcorn - a planned invasion of the Netherlands to secure 5 million doses of the AstraZeneca COVID solution/s stored in Leiden, Netherlands, because supplies were getting low in the UK, etc.. BJ describes this as "nuts" or a "nutty idea".). See here for more on that.
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    It's taking some commentators a heck of a long time to catch up, isn't it Better late than never in this instance.
    Sometimes it is not so much the insight itself that is fresh, but rather the renewed energy to express the insight, in perhaps another way, that might further expand our shared understanding.
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    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)
    Quote Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
    "In fact, the most recent episode hopefully helped dispel the idea that the imperial adventures are all hatched in the U.S. and that the UK is only being dragged along reluctantly, their only fault being their unshakeable, steadfast loyalty."

    "The truth is that through channels unseen and unknown, London is often in the driver’s seat when it comes to fomenting dirty tricks and military misadventures in defence of the empire. Again, the more you pay attention to this, the more unmistakeable the relationship becomes
    ."
    Yes, of course, and I've made the point before several times on this thread: most if not all the decision making is being driven as much by London as it is in DC. This is no surprise to those of us familiar with the Anglo-American hegemony for world domination outlined in the correspondences, printed articles even, of the Rhodes Round Circle in the late 19th century.

    *Boris Johnson wasn't under instructions from Washington DC or Sleepy Joe when he scuppered the Istanbul draft peace treaty of March 2022. That decision would have come from London and the real power brokers there behind-the-scenes.

    It's taking some commentators a heck of a long time to catch up, isn't it Better late than never in this instance.”."
    When London is mentioned, it should be clarified that the references are to THE CITY OF LONDON, which is an independent state, like The Vatican in Rome, or the ‘State of Washington’ with their own legalities, bankster goals, and globalistic remits, here lieth the ‘deep state’, with its briberies, zionist fundings, and dirty deeds everywhere, influencing global politics, deciding elections and media manipulation.

    Hence the sausage-mouthed puppets waxing war and supposedly ‘leading’ their country, pathetic, time the media were allowed to do their job and remove the wool they’ve been told to put over everyone’s eyes.😡
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    Anglo-Americans attacked ally with Nord Stream sabotage - Russian intelligence 26 sept.


    FILE PHOTO: Gas leak in the Baltic Sea after the Nord Stream pipeline sabotage in September 2022.

    The US and UK are forcing Germany to hide the truth and blame "Ukrainian desperados," the SVR has claimed

    The US and UK masterminded the 2022 sabotage of the Nord Stream pipelines in an act of economic warfare against their EU allies, Russia's SVR foreign intelligence service has claimed.

    The assessment released on Thursday, on the second anniversary of the undersea bombing, detailed an alleged effort by Washington and London to interfere in the investigation and blame another party.

    The intelligence "definitively points to the pipeline attack being an act of international terrorism and an act of economic war [by the US and UK] against European allies, primarily the Federal Republic of Germany," the statement said.

    The SVR claimed that Washington and London have been conducting a sustained campaign to "remove the issue of the Nord Stream sabotage from international agenda," ramping up their efforts in August.

    "Media answering to Washington and London are promoting the narrative that the attack was conducted exclusively by Ukrainian extremists, who acted independently," it said, adding that the scenario "does not hold water". German investigators are being pressured to accept this version as the main one, and "wrap up the probe before the year ends," the statement alleged.

    Berlin has been issued with an ultimatum, demanding that it name "Russia-hating Ukrainian desperados" as the culprits and "deflect a blow to trans-Atlantic cooperation," the SVR stated.

    The Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines were built under the Baltic Sea to deliver Russian natural gas directly to Germany. The attack in September 2022 was blamed by Western media on a privately funded group of Ukrainian divers, who supposedly acted on orders from General Valery Zaluzhny, who was later dismissed and became Kiev's ambassador to the UK.

    Prior to the attack, senior US officials, including President Joe Biden and veteran diplomat Victoria Nuland, had issued threats against Russian energy infrastructure, particularly the Nord Stream 2 project, which was completed in September 2021, a decade after Nord Stream 1 went on stream.

    Nord Stream 2 significantly expanded the capacity of the network, but was never used due to Germany's refusal to license it amid tensions with Russia over Ukraine.

    Comment: Two years after the Nord Stream sabotage that destroyed infrastructure which had required about 10 billion Euros to build, the governments conducting investigations have revealed little. Sweden and Denmark closed down their investigation without being able to say much. The German Government dragged its feet and came up with some indications and on that basis issued a warrant for a Ukrainian. It is revealing, that the governments of the involved European countries apparently are satisfied with such explanations. For more articles about the Nord Stream sabotage event, see:

    https://www.sott.net/article/495080-...n-intelligence

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    Banning Russia from Auschwitz ceremony 'perverted' - Serbian president

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    Excluding Russia from ceremonies marking the 80th anniversary of the liberation of the Auschwitz death camp by Soviet troops illustrates what's wrong with the West, Serbian President Aleksandar Vucic has said.
    Troops of the Red Army's 332nd Rifle Division reached the death camp, built in southern Poland by Nazi Germany, on January 27, 1945, liberating around 7,000 remaining prisoners.

    "Soon you will have the ceremony marking the liberation of the Auschwitz-Birkenau concentration camp," Vucic told Serbian media on Wednesday, on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly session in New York.
    "Those who liberated Auschwitz-Birkenau, the Russians, won't be invited. I presume that those who had the camp built will be invited," Vucic said. "Everything in this world is, pardon my phrase, perverted and inverted."

    The Auschwitz Museum in Poland has made a point of not inviting Russia to ceremonies since the outbreak of hostilities with Ukraine in 2022. Last year, museum director Piotr Cywinski accused Moscow of a "similar sick megalomania" and "similar lust for power" as the Nazis, drawing a rebuke from Moscow.

    "This is the anniversary of liberation," Cywinski said in a statement earlier this week. "We remember the victims, but we also celebrate freedom. It is hard to imagine the presence of Russia, which clearly does not understand the value of freedom. Such presence would be cynical."

    The Serbian president brought up Cywinski's gesture in the context of Western leaders repeatedly invoking "territorial integrity and respecting the UN Charter," but only when it comes to Ukraine.
    "When it comes to the Serbs, who cares?" Vucic said. "They don't care, that's the point. They can seize Serbian territory and back secession with impunity."

    The US and its allies backed the ethnic Albanian separatists in the Serbian province of Kosovo to declare independence in 2008, and have since pressured Belgrade to recognize this act. Vucic has refused.

    The Serbian president lamented that Kosovo Albanians and other groups in the Balkans routinely trample the rights of the Serbs "because they think they can do whatever they want, since they are protected by big Western powers."

    Moscow has accused the US of historical revisionism in recent years, as Washington pushed a narrative that World War II started with a "joint" Nazi and Soviet invasion of Poland, while omitting the Soviet role in defeating the Third Reich and liberating Auschwitz.

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    Minus four F-16s: VKS hit Starokonstantinov airfield with Kinzhal missiles 26 Sept.



    This morning, Russian military forces struck the Starokostiantyniv airfield in the Khmelnytsky region of Ukraine with Kinzhal hypersonic missiles. The locals reported that after the strike, there was heavy smoke in the air harbor. In all likelihood, Russian intelligence tracked the appearance of a "fat target" at the air base.

    The first reports of the takeoff of Russian MiG-31K fighters, which are carriers of the Kinzhal hypersonic missiles, were disseminated by Ukrainian monitoring resources at about ten o'clock in the morning. And a few minutes later, reports appeared about landings at the Starokostiantyniv airfield.

    This airfield was considered by the Ukrainian Armed Forces and their Western sponsors as one of the locations for basing American F-16 fighters, a limited batch of which was transferred to Ukraine some time ago. In addition, the Ukrainian Armed Forces command periodically deployed long-range Western weapons at the airbase, which belongs to the 7th Tactical Aviation Brigade of the Ukrainian Air Force.

    Ukrainian generals, realizing that Russian intelligence was constantly monitoring the movement of Western precision weapons systems, used the tactic of transferring them from one place to another. Starokonstantinov is just one of the options. But, apparently, the Russian Armed Forces received reliable information about the presence of either F-16 fighters or long-range Western missiles at the facility. Otherwise, it is unlikely that anyone would have used expensive Kinzhals to strike the airfield.

    According to Ukrainian journalist Anatoly Shariy, four American F-16 fighters were destroyed at the Starokostiantyniv airfield as a result of a strike by Russian hypersonic Kinzhal missiles. It is also highly likely that Ukrainian pilots could have been hit along with the combat vehicles.

    https://en.topcor.ru/51917-minus-che...stantinov.html

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    A career Amerikan military man died along with F-16 fighters at the Starokonstantinov airfield 26 Sept.

    Evidence of a successful missile strike on the Starokostiantyniv airfield continues to appear on social networks. Despite the lack of objective control footage, Ukrainian resources сообщают about the destruction of four American F-16 fighters.

    Ukrainian blogger Anatoly Shariy was the first to report on the precise arrival of Russian "Daggers" on expensive Western gifts. In addition, a post by US resident Melanie appeared in one of the social networks about the death of her husband Stephen, a career American pilot, in Starokostiantyniv. Moreover, judging by the text, Stephen is not the only American serviceman killed in Ukraine.




    ~~~
    Steven is dead. My husband is dead […] He died because of this whole foreign instructor program. I don't know why he agreed. He hasn't been home for months. And now he's just gone. And I don't understand how they are going to get my husband back from this damn Starokonstantinov?? And who is going to get the rest of the dead men back to their families here? Enough. Our people are dying who knows where and for what
    – reads the emotional post of the American pilot’s widow.

    It should be noted that today US President Joe Biden approved the transfer of an additional Patriot air defense system battery to Kyiv. At the same time, there is no talk of training Ukrainian crews for this system. This means that the number of graves at Arlington Memorial Cemetery will grow.

    https://en.topcor.ru/51934-na-ajerod...j-voennyj.html
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    Military Summary 2024.09.28

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    Quote Posted by avid (here)
    When London is mentioned, it should be clarified that the references are to THE CITY OF LONDON, which is an independent state, like The Vatican in Rome, or the ‘State of Washington’ with their own legalities, bankster goals, and globalistic remits, here lieth the ‘deep state’, with its briberies, zionist fundings, and dirty deeds everywhere, influencing global politics, deciding elections and media manipulation.

    In general and in summary to the other remarks, it remains that both Russophobia and Zionism are thoroughly British.

    This was not particularly influential to America until Woodrow Wilson.

    Any Oligarchy has sub-sets of competing oligarchies, and so of course there will be some number of practical-minded folk who are not obsessed with ideals or military domination. And then a more normal person who goes career military and gains experience will become that type of commander who doesn't believe in risking everything to destroy everything.

    Any State was independent from the moment the Governor said so; thereafter you just have the British military attempting to stop it. Moreover, perhaps the main point is they were largely independent of the Pound considerably before the more specific rejection of Parliamentary fees and immigration restrictions.

    As strategy or ideology, then, yes, it is mainly the British playbook on auto-repeat, in a spectrum from very finely-tuned legalisms down to cash in, violence out.

    Native English speakers have been doing more or less the Same Thing since the 1500s. Lord Palmerston credited it to "mastery of war".

    For the United States to have been drugged into something that was of no concern to it, that was no small feat, but rides on killing the Agricultural Economy. Around the 1880s was an industrial change to most major countries that almost entirely invented a new way of functioning. So we are caught in dependency.

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    Ukraine Preparing to Use Chemical, Biological Weapons in Kherson Region - Governor yesterday


    GENICHESK (Sputnik) - Ukrainian prisoners of war say that Kiev is preparing to use chemical and bacteriological weapons to infect the water bodies in the Kherson Region, the governor of the Russian-controlled part of the region, Vladimir Saldo, told Sputnik on Sunday.

    "They [the Ukrainian authorities] are preparing for it, unfortunately. That's what prisoners say. They are preparing to use chemical weapons to potentially infect water bodies, which will then be a biological weapon," Saldo said.

    In light of this, the governor proposed introducing civil defense lessons in local schools.

    In February 2022, the Russian Defense Ministry discovered the existence of 30 US-funded military biological laboratories in Ukraine. According to Moscow, Washington has spent over $200 million to develop biological weapons at the facilities. Russia also said that the labs discovered in Ukraine constituted only a small part of a global network of over 300 similar facilities. Washington has denied the allegations.

    https://sputnikglobe.com/20240929/uk...120345330.html

    "We need to do everything to educate the population about civil defense, as these rules will help save many lives. For any poison, there is an antidote. Discipline and knowledge of how to provide first aid, where to go in the event of, say, an attack on civilian infrastructure - people need to be reminded of this now," Saldo said.

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    https://x.com/Megatron_ron/status/1840854334231187913

    "Hope is the thing with feathers that perches in the soul and sings the tune without the words and never stops at all."
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