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    Maria Zakharova, 9 October

    Russian Defense Ministry announces that Russian troops liberated Novaya Sorochina and Pokrovsky settlements in Kursk Region

    Ukraine has lost more than 100 soldiers in the Kursk direction over the past 24 hours.

    The total loss of the enemy in the fighting amounted to more than 21,350 people.

    TASS has compiled important news on the situation.

    Operation to neutralize Ukrainian forces

    – Units of the Northern Battle Group continued offensive operations and liberated the settlements of Novaya Sorochina and Pokrovsky in the Kursk Region.

    – They also defeated Ukrainian troops near Daryino, Lyubimovka, Novy Put and Plekhovo.

    – The Russian army repelled two enemy attacks on Lyubimovka and Plekhovo.

    – Russian jets and missile troops hit Ukrainian reserves in the Sumy Region.

    Ukraine's losses
    – The enemy lost more than 100 soldiers during the day.

    – Ukraine's losses have exceeded 21,350 since the start of hostilities in Russia's border region.

    👉https://sonsoz.net/rusya-kursk-bolge...gini-acikladi/

    https://x.com/_MariaZakharova/status...64629841953168

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    Clown World

    "Presidential candidate and Vice President Kamala Harris says she will not talk to Russian President Vladimir Putin without Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky."

    Translate:

    Wannabe President says blah blah blah without Ukrainian "once were" president, actually Dictator!

    That´s Democrazy in all his Glory courtesy from the "Empire of Lies"

    what is next ? Killary Clinton as Minister for "Family and children" ?

    from : https://asiatimes.com/2024/10/no-neg...at-about-nato/
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    Quote Posted by Abondance (here)
    In 2025, there are some cities where I could not enter with my car because it does not meet the environmental criteria set. You couldn’t pitch a tent anywhere on the Riviera and mopeds would probably be banned soon.

    That's depressing. The sense I get is that the spread of "Liberal Democracy" means your country will lose its "old world charm" and will no longer be particularly desirable, except for those few who manage to profit highly. They will try to explain that, because they are rich, you will be better off. You may wonder how Russia is still kind of Russian, or how it can adapt and keep rolling along while the Capitalists attempt to scuttle it. They seem to have learned the hard way by starting to invite in Liberal Democracy and then regretting it a short time later. Unfortunately, France appears to be the birthplace of Immortal Property and "privatization" and must have some very deep-seeded momentum in this direction.

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    https://x.com/ArthurM40330824/status...83480308285775

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    https://avia-pro.net/news/bitva-za-k...-napravleniyah

    battle for Kursk Region: Russian military managed to dislodge Ukrainian Armed Forces in key areas

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    Zelensky's proposed 'peace summit' cancelled. Now Zelensky is planning to tour of Europe to ask for security guarantees and Ukraine's entry into EU.

    U.S. phases out project Ukraine

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    In Video: Russian Moto Troops In Action Oct.11



    The Russian military actively uses motorcycles in its military operations on the Ukrainian front line. They help Russian soldiers to fulfill various targets, especially in the field areas in the southern directions.

    Russian military sources shared new video of another risky operation against the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU). A fighter of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation on a motorcycle approached Ukrainian military positions and threw a grenade of 30 kg of explosives there. Then, the brave fighter calmly left the area and the explosion blew apart the fortifications with the AFU. The operation was coordinated by Russian reconnaissance UAV.

    While various types of UAVs are massively used by the warring sides in Ukraine, any movement on the frontlines is very risky and is always observed by the enemy. Thus, the use of motorcycles in military operations allows to significantly increase personal mobility of the infantry. Though the rider is less protected from shrapnel, Russian operations on motorcycles are more daring and rapid.

    Russians launch assaults on motorcycles. After Russian artillery pounds the defending Ukrainian positions, assault groups on motorcycles divide the enemy’s defenses into sectors and destroy the pockets of resistance.

    In particular, the massive assaults on motorcycles allowed Russian forces to broke through Ukrainian defense in and around the fortress of Ugledar.

    Motorcycles are also very useful for drone operators. They increase the effectiveness of the use of drones and allow the operators to surprisingly launch various types of UAVs from a point from where the enemy could not have expected; while the quick change of position increases the safety of the drone operator.

    video: https://southfront.press/in-video-ru...ops-in-action/

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    Russian troops liberate 15 settlements in Kursk Region 2 hours ago

    Russian troops have liberated 15 settlements in Kursk Oblast that were previously under Ukrainian troops control, Major General Apty Alaudinov, commander of the Akhmat special forces, told KP.RU on October 11.

    The Ukrainian command, according to Alaudinov, has gathered significant reserves of armored vehicles – more than 200 tanks and 400 armored vehicles. However, Russian troops continue to destroy the remaining units of equipment.

    Earlier, he said that the Ukrainian army has lost about 70% of its equipment, including tanks and armored personnel carriers.

    The fighting in the Kursk region began on August 6, and according to the latest data, the Ukrainian troops have lost over 21.9 thousand people. Despite the significant losses, Ukrainian forces have not been ordered to withdraw.

    https://eu.eot.su/2024/10/11/russian...-kursk-region/

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    Quote Posted by Bruce G Charlton (here)
    What follows is very condensed, to the point of near-absurdity - for which I apologize.

    From my perspective it is an error to reduce the Russia-Ukr-NATO/West conflict to the level of any particular interest group (religious, ethnic, financial or whatever), or to geopolitical considerations (whether national or globalist), or to personal corruption - or any other this-worldly and materialist factor. All of these are partially true, but none make sense without many auxiliary hypotheses to explain obvious contradictions.

    So long as discussion proceeds at the level of trying to discover which human group is ultimately to blame and why - then we have fallen into a trap.

    I think matters are far deeper and more dangerous, because the impulse behind this conflict is literally demonic, therefore "supernatural" - and these demonic powers "use" all the above groupings for their purposes, as is expedient.

    Some human individuals and groups are much more corrupted and susceptible to the agenda of evil than are others; and some groups are more powerful than others - which is one reason the situation is so apparently complex. Yet all human groups are ultimately being used, they are not the origin of the evil agenda (an agenda which extends across multiple generations). As soon as any group becomes an obstacle to the real (spiritual) agenda of evil, that group will be abandoned and may be annihilated. (This abandonment has already happened to "the proletariat", and is currently happening to "feminism".)

    The complexity arises from a spiritual goal being explained in material terms. For instance, although the demonic powers desire the destruction of humans (i.e. to kill people), this desired destruction is primarily spiritual rather than in terms of biological death - so it is desired that those who die do so with (false, sinful) motivations - in order that their post-mortal souls be recruited to the causes of evil. For instance the demons desire that humans should die while consumed with spiteful resentment, or in utter despair.

    It would be trivially easy for the world powers to kill billions of the world population (eg by poisoning, starvation etc), but the spiritual agenda is that those who die ought to do so in a state of spiritual corruption. As spiritual corruption spreads, so the agenda for mass death has become stronger - but the spiritual agenda came first and is the priority.
    I agree we are in a spiritual war. And yet if i point out who is on the evil side of that war then some want me to be banned from forum or to spank my behind.

    Here we have excerpts of a jewish scholar admitting proudly that according to the talmud, jews themselves can be demons, and demons are literally, physically, an intimate part of the jewish community.

    1. Jews and only jews can be physical, embodied demons.

    2. Embodied jewish demons are real, physical beings with observable behaviors that inhabit our planet and look like humans.

    3. Jewish demons physically move and interact in our world and cause events to occur.

    4. Jewish demons have ordinary names.

    6. These jewish demons are part of the rabbinic jewish community. They are active informants, teachers, participants, etc.

    6. Jewish demons can speak audibly to jews and give jews advice.

    7. Rabbis take what demons say and integrate it into law.

    8. Jewish demons can coordinate between multiple jews simultaneously.

    9. No other race or religion except for jews has this intimate identity with demons, and only jews can manifest as demons. Jews did not "borrow" this conception of demons from someone else. Jews are the only demonists in this sense.

    10. Jews can work with demons to deceive world leaders. One way they do this is by performing actions that seem "supernatural" to compel leaders to follow their instructions. (This was done to an unnamed Roman emperor to end his hostility to jews.)

    11. Jewish demons can be physically stopped, injured, or eliminated (one of the jewish demons in the Talmud was smashed underneath a barrel).

    12. Demons may seem scary to Gentiles, but for jews they are allies, and sometimes they manifest, in embodied form, as jews themselves.



    ¨Demons in the Talmud¨
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    Personally, what I've observed so far, is that there is a cabal operating over the millennia that use their advanced knowledge of manipulation of the human spirit. They know, for example, that to convince a certain ethnic group that they're at the top of the food chain, e.g. the 'master race' or 'god's chosen', will eventually turn them into monsters. Very useful monsters for the cabal to advance their population control agenda.

    Right now is appears to be 'Jews' engaged in creating all the mayhem. There have been others in the past, like the nazis.

    Also, the cabal is aware of psychic impacts of these monstrous behaviors, and they use (or misuse) this psychic darkness to the hilt. (Some may call this spiritual darkness, terminology may shift.) The question is, how do we defend against this? We can pray and think of goodness, that might help. But also most necessary is physical protection.
    It's a complex dilemma, to not become the darkness that you're fighting against.

    So, there's been that ongoing debate among those who believe that wars never solve anything: 'Should the allies have fought WW2 against the nazis?'
    I don't presume to know the answer to that question. But it would be useful to identify the cabal operators that have done so much harm to humankind.

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    Quote Posted by Jaak (here)
    I agree we are in a spiritual war. And yet if i point out who is on the evil side of that war then some want me to be banned from forum or to spank my behind.

    Almost but not quite.

    I at least lean towards a comment from the other day that was slated towards "accuracy".

    In concrete terms, we find that Elijah spawned something known as "Yhwh" around 900 B. C. E., which not just immediately committed a form of assault, but, did so in the way of saying other deities/other peoples' beliefs are false. So there is definitely a type of intellectual conflict suddenly provoked here. I guess you could call it a "spiritual war".

    That group, however, was not particularly successful, because the Roman Church was. In its case, we find a similar difficulty, they practically repudiate Christianity.

    In comparison, international Jewry has no power base until it began to be granted to them by the UK around the 1840s.

    Ukraine and Israel are British interests.


    So, for example, if you want to post some issues that are locked under so-called "Holocaust denial" questions, that's useful. The human psyche has been taking a drubbing about this since the 1950s; it's ludicrous that it would become illegal to talk about something. This is a plate of fresh steamy aardvark dung, the savoring of which leads to conditions like we see today.

    On the other hand, you are the first, and, so far, only person to think I am a Jew, which makes it seem that you have above-average difficulty in processing what is in front of you. I don't trust your judgment at all.

    It starts to go into moderation territory if you constantly post demeaning terms associated with the way someone was born.


    I will leave it at that and go to the grindstone of a couple analyses that came up recently. Here is something describing our times as Auschwitz on Livestream:

    Quote The CIA and Western intelligence agencies seek to mold a compliant and passive populace while elites enrich themselves, according to a former White House official.

    Retired White House analyst Richard Cook has provocatively claimed that the CIA's goal is to create a “depleted population of compliant zombies” as Western elites enrich themselves amid atrocities in Gaza and around the globe.
    Independent journalist Jim Kavanagh joined Sputnik’s The Critical Hour program Friday to discuss the claim, which was dissected by analyst Jeremy Kuzmarov in an article in Covert Action Magazine.

    “The most dangerous people in the world are people who are brainwashed,” said Kavanagh, referencing an infamously candid quote from former CIA director William Casey. “The American and Western people, but especially the American people, are brainwashed by the media – they're proud of it now. MSNBC is a hotbed of CIA and military people. They're proud of being the spokespersons for the deep state national security intelligence complex.”

    “The twin ideologies [Americans] internalize are, ‘oh, we're all temporarily embarrassed capitalists and billionaires who will just get there someday, we have to keep that path open for us,’ and, ‘we're all part of the greatest country in the world,’” he continued, claiming Americans are indoctrinated to believe the country must “save democracy for everybody.” “We have to send our armies to fight everybody for this or send our proxies to fight everyone for that. And as long as people are held in that ideology that is the most dangerous thing in the world. “

    Kavanagh claimed that Western elites maintained “a very tight control” over the promulgation of information after World War II via influence over major media outlets. Crusading investigative journalist Carl Bernstein revealed some of the CIA’s methods via a program known as Operation Mockingbird in 1977, publicizing the secretive intelligence agency’s efforts to influence coverage in major newspapers and broadcast networks.

    “That was disrupted for a decade or so with the internet and with social media and people have got access to a lot more information than they had before and a lot more opinion and analysis than they had before,” said Kavanagh. “Now they're having to crack down on that because that breaks the hold and it's extremely dangerous, but this is the job.”

    “A lot of work went on behind the scenes before. Now, it's all out in the open and they're trying very hard to reinstall the gates that were being kept over the American mind, and they're doing a pretty good job of it and it's gonna be hard to fight. It's gonna get worse. They're gonna be more adamant about it.”

    Kavanagh claimed the depravity of the Western ruling class is best revealed by Israel’s ongoing military operations in Gaza and Lebanon, which have killed over 40,000. US President Joe Biden and other Western leaders have claimed there are no “red lines” barring support for the country as it protects Western interests in the oil-rich Middle East.

    “In my life I've seen, from Vietnam on, terrible atrocities created by the United States,” said the journalist. “This thing in Gaza and now in Lebanon… this is clearly a war to just exterminate and expel a whole people. And it's a deliberate slaughter of children, of doctors, of bombing hospitals.”

    “It is the Western world, it's the United States that is in the forefront of this, which is not only supporting it, but doing it, providing the weapons, providing the intelligence, providing the real time support,” he continued. “And the rest of the Western world [and] European governments are supporting it. It couldn't happen without all of that.”

    “This is a disgrace. It's a version of watching Auschwitz on livestream and saying, ‘we're gonna support it and there's nothing that you can do to make us not support that.’ And that's the position that the Western world is in right now. They've lost moral authority in many ways a long time ago.This is kind of just the depth of depravity… and I don't know what the result of it is going to be because I don't think it's going to change.”



    You may want to take a stomach tablet because here comes NED:



    Quote 'Americans Believe the NED Fairy Tale': Nuland's New Position in the Nonprofit

    In his article, Kuzmarov noted that Nuland expressed “glee” after the Nord Stream 2 pipeline was bombed and destroyed. Speaking to Congress, she said she was “very gratified to know” that the pipeline is “now… a hunk of metal at the bottom of the sea.”

    The National Endowment for Democracy (NED) announced in mid-September that it would be appointing Victoria Nuland to its Board of Directors, “effective immediately.” Nuland holds a lengthy political career in the US and has worked to promote a “foreign policy of intervention, coups, proxy wars, aggression, and occupation… in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, and Ukraine.” Dr. Jeremy Kuzmarov, an editor and author, wrote for Covert Action Magazine.

    "Nuland fits very well within this crowd, particularly as a key architect of one of the greatest humanitarian disasters in modern history—the Ukraine War—which NED and the neo-conservative establishment has fervently championed," Kuzmarov writes.

    Kuzmarov joined Sputnik’s The Critical Hour on Thursday to discuss Nuland’s new role in the nonprofit group which works to “assist those abroad who are working to build democratic institutions and spread democratic values”, according to the organization’s program description.

    “...firstly these kind of people… they should be sent to the front line themselves and see if they like being in the trenches in eastern Ukraine or the h*** hole that they created from their comfortable offices in Washington,” said Kuzmarov. “...[Nuland will continue] to wield influence on the foreign policy establishment, on the direction of US policy now with the National Endowment for Democracy, which specializes in promoting propaganda and, basically, subversion in countries around the world that are targeted by the US regime change.”

    “They finance civil society groups. They often provoke students to revolt against the government. They finance media outlets that will spread incendiary propaganda that countries that have more nationalistic and left-leaning policies that US corporations don't like,” he continued.

    “So, yeah, she's going to continue to wield influence there and it's a prestigious appointment for her after all the havoc and horror she's caused all around the world. So, it sends a terrible signal [to] those who adopt these kinds of warmongering policies that's the way to get ahead in Washington,” the author explained.

    In a separate article, Kuzmarov writes that after World War II, US banking interests such as the Federal Reserve, pushed for the creation of the CIA as the “enforcement arm of US foreign policy that was expert in propaganda”. And in 1981, he notes, CIA Director William Casey told President Ronald Reagan that “we will know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.”

    Since then, the CIA has worked with the rest of the “national security state, including government support think tanks, mainstream media and nonprofits” to further the disinformation program, Kuzmarov writes citing Richard C. Cook, an author and retired US federal analyst.

    The CIA wants to create a “depleted world population of compliant zombies, drained of creative energy, incapable of independent thinking, riddled with fear, obedient to every conditioned impulse, running from every virus, hating every designated enemy, parroting the mass media, spending as advertising directs, numbed by drugs and medication, and ready to die at the whim of their masters,” writes Cook, who served under President Jimmy Carter, NASA, and the US Treasury.

    “...the CIA has penetrated academia, the media and they spread disinformation; they spread this false narrative about US foreign policy, that it's altruistic, that it promotes democracy abroad, that it's not like former colonial powers out to exploit the economic resources. And that's totally false, but many American believe in the NED fairy tale narrative because they control all universities and they purge academics who present a kind of leftist critical analysis,” the analyst explained.

    “Those academics have been purged mostly from the academy today, just like in the media. You won't find critical voices in the Washington Post or New York Times, or critical analysis of the economic imperatives or some of the genocidal policies,” he added. “Although, occasionally, it does filter out, like, the Israel genocide because it's so egregious.”

    Citing Cook, Kuzmarov also writes that the US proxy war with Russia is an attempt to sever relations between Germany and Russia so the two cannot collectively challenge Anglo-American hegemony. The most significant result of this plot, he adds, was the blowing up of the Nord Stream II pipeline, which would have “interlinked Germany and Russia’s economies and fueled an economic boom in Germany”.

    “...NED was very active for instance in Ukraine before the coup, which Nuland played a crucial role in... I mean, she's a natural fit for NED, but, NED set the groundwork by financing the groups, mobilizing them together to wave this Maidan square uprising that toppled the pro-Russian leader,” Kuzmarov claimed.

    “And they framed it as this ‘great pro-democracy movement toppling this Russian-backed tyrant’ and, meanwhile, they've ushered in a tyranny in Ukraine and it plunged the country into civil war and they were basically used for the US agenda, trying to attack and destabilize Russia," he added. "And it's such a disaster for Ukraine's population and the death of those youth - at least half a million youth have died in Ukraine.”

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    So, there's been that ongoing debate among those who believe that wars never solve anything: 'Should the allies have fought WW2 against the nazis?'
    I don't presume to know the answer to that question. But it would be useful to identify the cabal operators that have done so much harm to humankind.


    In terms of what we call World Wars, that would be the Steel Cartel.

    There is a person who said "We fought on the wrong side", and got run over, twice, General Patton. This is how it comes across in sanitized wiki-speak:


    During the Allied occupation of Germany, Patton was named military governor of Bavaria, but was relieved for making aggressive statements towards the Soviet Union, sympathetic towards Nazi Germany, and derogatory towards Jews. He commanded the United States Fifteenth Army for slightly more than two months. Severely injured in an auto accident, he died in Germany twelve days later, on December 21, 1945.


    Now if you call something a "cabal", that's an acronym from England in the 1500s, which is accurate, in the sense of a "modern development".

    Before that, you simply had Oligarchy, which was pretty much an open oligarchy.

    Something like this. All ancient cultures record the role of Government as being to protect little poor people from oligarchs (Bible, Code of Hammurabi, Rosetta Stone, etc.). It took me a while to get this, but in actuality oligarchy is not a "form" of government; it hasn't got its own two feet, or any inherent form of existence. Rather, it is the art of getting said government to betray the people and benefit the few.

    So those are all instances where it was stamped down. Classical Greece is the same; *most* of its civil strife could be pinned to the arising of an oligarchy, and the subsequent revolution. And so in this case, oligarchy never really "took over", as these were mostly the city-states, or, the empire was not very long-lived.

    However this changes in the back half of the Roman Empire or the Patricians. Perhaps beginning with the assassination of Caesar. At a certain point, there are legal favoritisms of a lasting and permanent nature, establishing a "dominant class" in a way that had not been done before.

    The two powers of Medieval Europe were essentially Roman Centrists and Venetian Internationalists, from them, we are able to see that empire was not really conducted by the 1% but by the 10%. The Venetian ruling council began with over 2,000 individuals. Nothing shadowy here. They proudly ran their mouths and made demands. This gave us "Fondi", or pillars of immortal wealth passed by inheritance. It is however Catholic France that came up with privatization of public infrastructure, in an immortal way that had not been seen in Rome.

    That the Venetians were interested in England is visible in Chaucer, and, it just gets deeper, and, the method known as "shadow oligarchy" is produced by this.

    My suggestion is that older times were not particularly "cabalistic", but that it definitely revolves around legal favoritisms to a privileged class. We may get lost if we try to blame a specific detail such as "Fractional Reserve Lending", because the culprit is any and every thing reeled out of the mind of greed and power.

    This is fairly close to what Russia believes itself to be combatting.

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    I agree we are in a spiritual war. And yet if i point out who is on the evil side of that war then some want me to be banned from forum or to spank my behind.
    I would speculate that those of us who are trying to identify and call out the evil s.o.b.'s (ESOB's) who have and continue to bring so much harm down on humanity are caught in a deliberate trap, set by those same ESOB's.

    These ESOB's manage to hijack legitimate groups and categories of ordinary, for the most part decent, people and steal the good names of those groups and categories. I would speculate that such hijacking has occurred to major religions, including Jewish, Muslim and Catholic religions, and to major countries, including a country commonly called America, where myself and my ancestors for many generations have lived.

    It is likely true that many, perhaps a majority, of the deaths due to war in my lifetime (which began shortly after WW II ended) were caused, funded or using weapons supplied by my country America. America is also serving a lead role in propagating a genocide in the form of a vaxxx. Many of the ESOB's are "American" (have U.S.A. passports).

    I would speculate that the ESOB's have been infiltrating the people of Jewish faith, culture or ancestry far longer than my country has even been a country.

    I have no doubt but that some evil bastards who "identify" as Jewish, or as American, are high level ESOB's, who have done and are doing some seriously evil sh*t.

    But that doesn't mean that all Americans are evil bastards. I appreciate it when people of other nations make the extra effort to note, now and then, that while many ESOB's are Americans, that doesn't mean that all Americans are ESOB's.

    I presume that there are some ordinary, decent, people of Jewish faith, culture or ancestry who might similarly appreciate it when other people make the extra effort to note, now and then, that:
    while many ESOB's identify as (or can be identified as) "Jewish", that doesn't mean that all such people are ESOB's.

    The words "Jew" and "American" name two of the many groups that the ESOB's have hijacked, and hence whose names have been stolen.

    (In other words, it is not just that the ESOB's go by many names in order to hide and confuse. Rather it is also that the ESOB's go by many names in order to steal and tarnish names of racial, religious, cultural and national groups of ordinary, mostly decent, humans.)
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    Our spiritual war happens in a faithless age, and apostates (not "the religious") are the Big Problem.

    However it may have been in earlier eras, nowadays and for several generations the problem of evil is overwhelmingly one of apostates, not the religious. This seems so obvious that I am surprised it needs saying, let alone arguing - but it does.

    Both atheists and the traditionalist-orthodox Christians are very keen to pin the blame for "the world, now" on religion: The atheists blame religion-per-se - as when they say that the cause of most wars, or cruelty, is "religion". While among the religious the blame is fixed upon some-other-religion (usually one or both of the major monotheisms), or else on heretics of their own denomination (e.g. for Roman Catholics blame Protestantism, and vice versa - or mainstream Christians blame some particular variant such as Mormonism).

    But a little thought and attention would reveal that nearly always the grouping who support and promote evil are apostates - either those who have explicitly abandoned their religion, those en route to abandonment; or those whose religion is superficial and feeble, and whose affiliation is essentially non-religious (i.e. to race, ethnicity, nation etc) - or as an excuse for some personal corruption.

    I am not-at-all saying that "religion" (in general or particular) is blameless for evil in the world today; but instead that this is a faithless age in which the religious conviction, hence impulse, is weaker than at any point in world history. (e.g. This was seen in 2020, when apparently all religions shut themselves down, willingly, for months.) Religious explanations of the present evil are therefore secondary and relatively superficial.

    (Not I do not regard Satanism as A Religion, since it is opposition to God and divine creation. To take the side of the devil and demons is very common, and near-universal among the Western/ Globalist ruling classes - but this is a negative definition. Evil is ultimately opposed to all religion, although evil will expediently use any religion - as it will use any ideology but especially that of Leftism - to oppose God and creation.)

    This is of relevance in the current wars, because the situation with respect to religion is badly misrepresented. The exception, i.e. the only party that is (so far) genuinely religiously motivated, is Russia; and for them the religion is bound up with the nation. yet this single real case of motivation is widely misrepresented as instead nationalistic Empire-building!

    The West is apostate-Christian and now systematically atheist, evil-affiliated - and ideologically against all religions, and also against all nations/ races and ethnicities (which is why they, expediently, use these to destroy each other). Israel is (and always has been) a secular state defined by race, not religion. Those currently aligned against Israel a mix of nations and religions, mostly the two main types of Islam; and as such they are not primarily religiously motivated.

    In sum - religion (in general or specifically) is not the Main Cause for the wars (or evils) of the world. It is anti-religion and apostates from religions who are the prime originators of current wars.

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    In sum - religion (in general or specifically) is not the Main Cause for the wars (or evils) of the world. It is anti-religion and apostates from religions who are the prime originators of current wars.
    My personal "religion" is not one that has a name, not even one that (so far as I know) is even shared by anyone else, though I consider it similar to various other religions (in the personal belief sense, not the corporate institution sense of the large "churches") held by various peoples around our world.

    To put it (overly?) simply, my religion is that, just as I hold that there is an ætheric based reality below our physical world, so is there a spiritual order above our physical world ... layers of self-organizing, self-perpetuating order, each formed from the elements ("acts" in Susanne Langer's terminology) of the layer(s) below. My primary metaphor, of such layers, comes from my earlier work with partial orders in mathematics, and in particular with the question of whether there is a Prime Ideal, which would translate in my strange view to the more widely considered question of whether or not there is One God, or many gods.

    I do not expect anyone reading the previous paragraph to make much sense of it ... that's fine. Few people traveled my particular path in this life.

    But, translating my (quite odd) view into more widely used terms, such as in your post, Bruce, I quite agree with you.

    Those whom you, Bruce, might label the religious I would consider as those who recognize a spiritual order that surpasses the physical order of our world, and those whom you might label as the anti-religious and apostates I would consider as those who are "stuck in the materium", who deny (or at least would have us deny) the spiritual above, and who usually, so far as I've noticed, also deny (or would have us deny) the existence of the ætherium below, which manifests as the derailing of physics and other sciences based thereon for the last century, including the suppression of dramatically more efficient energy production capabilities rather than the profoundly corrupted coal, and now petroleum, energy production technology we now use.

    (Sorry - another perhaps marginally inscrutable paragraph .)

    Our personal connection to a higher spiritual order, no matter how fleeting or tenuous that might seem, is worth recognizing and nourishing, just as a plant recognizes and grows toward sources of light above, even as its roots seek nutrients from the dark soil below.

    The dumbing down, the poisoning of mind, body and spirit, and the fear mongering and enslavement that our would be evil overlords endeavor to impose on is are all manifestations of their efforts to trap us in the materium, like once herds of wild animals are now raised on industrialized farms as sources of basic food stuff for the other enslaved animals (us) and as profit centers for their "corporate", Latin for "embodied", institutions.

    I know not when or how I (or at least my current body) will die ... I've already lived longer than some of my youthful foolishness should have allowed, and I plan to live for many more years ... but may I die resisting their tyranny, not succumbing to it.

    In short - this is a spiritual war. To misquote Lincoln's Gettysburg address:
    “Now we are engaged in a great spiritual war, testing whether our humanity, or any humanity so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battlefield of that war.”
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