The Multipolar World Order (yes, it's here)

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/Sputnik_India/status/1849422336845308085

[Ravenlocke]

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PRESIDENT PUTIN RESPONDS TO UN CHIEF GUTERRES ON LATTER'S WORDS THAT EVERYONE SHOULD LIVE AS ONE BIG FAMILY

💬“Your Excellency, Secretary General, that's how we live. In families, unfortunately, there are disagreements, scandals, division of property, even reaching a fight,” noted Putin.

The Russian President noted that the BRICS goal is to create a necessary mechanisms for interaction, to create conducive conditions in our common home.

#BRICS2024

🇺🇳UN CHIEF CALLS FOR ACCELERATING THE REFORM OF THE INTERNATIONAL OUTDATED, INEFFECTIVE AND UNFAIR FINANCIAL ARCHITECTURE

💬"I am grateful to participate in the 16th BRIC Summit. Collectively, your countries represent nearly half of the world's population. And I salute your valuable commitment and support for multilateralism and international problem solving as clearly reflected in your team this year... It takes a community of nations working as one global family to address global challenges," United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres said at the final meeting of the BRICS summit in the BRICS+ and outreach format in Russia's Kazan.

According to him, today's international financial system does not provide many vulnerable countries with the safety net or level of support they need.

Guterres also stressed the need for strengthening and updating the machinery of peace, as well as addressing the weaponization of outer space and use of lethal autonomous weapons.

#BRICS2024

https://x.com/SputnikInt/status/1849433893096522149

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/redstreamnet/status/1849486102811316395

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/redstreamnet/status/1849472787372478927

[gini]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=6Za0yzFbwxk

-31 min-
25 Oct 2024 #TheJimmyDoreShow
'During the three-day BRICS summit in the Russian city of Kazan, presided over by Russian President Vladimir Putin, assembled leaders discussed the deepening of their nations’ financial cooperation, including the development of alternatives to Western-dominated payment systems, efforts to settle regional conflicts and expansion of the BRICS group of nations.

Moscow-based International Affairs & Security Analyst Mark Sleboda spoke with Jimmy about the meeting, and whether the growth of BRICS portends the end of a global financial system dominated by the United States and western Europe.'

[Bill Ryan]

This is pretty important, and Alexander Mercouris (who is trained as a lawyer ) may be one of the few western analysts to have carefully read the entire 133-clauses-long BRICS Kazan Declaration sentence by sentence from beginning to end.

BRICS Bridge & BRICS Clear: new financial architecture

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Dkfa9iUH83k

[Ravenlocke]

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Brazilian President Lula da Silva has blocked the entrance of Venezuela into the BRICS economic alliance

The decision was allegedly taken by Brazil’s leader, who did not attend the ongoing BRICS summit in Kazan, due to a betrayal of trust between his government and that of Caracas. In response, Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro said that the move was “an action that constitutes an aggression against Venezuela and a hostile gesture”.

https://x.com/MintPressNews/status/1849882803510428113

[grapevine]

The oil and gas assets would be wiped out overnight

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=yToQ94tuRHc

(2:29)
Relevant segment from George Galloway's most recen MOATS
"Saudi Arabia’s Mohammed bin Salman did not attend the BRICS summit. But he has said that his country will not allow it’s assets or airspace to be used to attack Iran. If he resiles the toll will be fearsome"
MbS appears to be actively positioning Saudi Arabia as a key player in the Middle East and his progress will be very interesting to watch.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Ravenlocke (here)

https://watcher.guru/news/saudi-arab...ics-membership

Saudi Arabia Officially Declines BRICS Membership

Amid the ongoing BRICS Summit in Russia this week, Saudi Arabia has declined membership in the alliance. The bloc announced its new partner countries on Wednesday, revealing that the Kingdom was not on the list.

That raised my eyebrows a few inches, but I'm not convinced this interpretation is accurate. Saudi Arabia isn't right now on either of the lists (i.e. not formally listed as a full member or a partner member), but I can't yet find any confirmation that they've 'officially declined' membership.

The Russia Today BRICS running live updates page is here, and there's nothing mentioned about this at all. The report there simply says: 'Saudi Arabia has yet to ratify its membership invitation.' And there's nothing on TASS or Al Jazeera either.

I'll be counting the hours and minutes until Pepe Escobar's BRICS summary update with Judge Napolitano (which is likely to be tomorrow), when he'll definitely clarify the entire thing.

Pepe wasn't on with Judge Nap last week, but he's scheduled to be live with him today at 12 noon US Eastern time (video link here).

Meanwhile, Pepe stated this as one paragraph of his new article on Sputnik Globe published yesterday:

Saudi Arabia remains an open proposition. Not even Putin answered whether Riyadh is in, out, or over the wall. Diplomatic sources hint MbS is waiting for the result of the US presidential elections. As much as Saudi Arabia’s wealth is invested in the Anglo-American sphere – and can be stolen in no time – relations with the Russia-China strategic partnership at the highest level are excellent.

[pounamuknight]

Posted by Helvetic (here)
New World Next Week | BRICS Unveil the NEW New World Order! | Nov 1, 2024

Totally get Corbett's distrust about BRICS: that its just another globalist structure of the new world order

His best reason for his understandable distrust is relatable: BRICS is evil because the IMF/World Bank want to do deals with them, in a nutshell

But I really can't see the worlds biggest banks NOT turning down the opportunity to get their money-changing claws into a group of nations that turn over $30 trillion per annum



Also IMF/World Bank are global institutions (like the UN) with memberships with virtually every nation on the globe. But that doesn't mean every single nation is part of the new world order

Just ask BRICS countries currently embroiled in financial/geopolitical wars against the empire- the home of the IMF & World bank btw



Anyway, I didn't want to contaminate Helvetic's thread with my rant, and thought this was the best multipolar place to comment

[grapevine]

I agree with you pounamuknight. To think BRICS is 100% into the New World Order would be to deny that we have any hope left of a better world and life for all.

On the face of it many of the NWO ideas have some merit and logically there should be some order amid the chaos ("One must still have chaos (in oneself) to be able to give birth to a dancing star" Frederich Nietzsche). The problem is the stranglehold the NWO want to inflict on everyone and every thing.

The NWO came about through slow but sure infiltration of all the official systems in the world. Yuri Brezhnev warned us years ago about the systematic breakdown although he may have been unaware that there were other forces (zionists/globalists - aren't they the same?) Collectively we've been uable to do anything about this except to witness our standards of living taking a slow downturn, and let's not forget the majority of the world poplulation doesn't have any standard of living at all and struggle to survive on a daily basis. It seems likely now that BRICS investment in Africa will elevate the quality of life for the population.

History shows that the influence of an Empire lasts around 200-250 years, and there have been many since the Fall of the Roman Empire. The Empire of the West is on the verge of collapse and another (BRICS) Empire is rising. My hopes are purely selfish in that they may slow the ambitions of the WHO, WEF, etc and the EU, which will probably fall altogether, but the leaders of the BRICS countries are just another oligarchy and not known for their clemency or compassion for the people in their own countries and we, the hoi polloi in the west, will "keep calm and carry on". At this point it seems immaterial who the next POTUS is.

Apologies for the contradictory pov but that's how it seems to me atm.

[shaberon]

Posted by Miller (here)
To think BRICS is 100% into the New World Order would be to deny that we have any hope left of a better world and life for all.

Is this an entity? Or a convenient label for the unknown?

The Empire of the West is on the verge of collapse and another (BRICS) Empire is rising. My hopes are purely selfish in that they may slow the ambitions of the WHO, WEF, etc and the EU, which will probably fall altogether, but the leaders of the BRICS countries are just another oligarchy and not known for their clemency or compassion for the people in their own countries and we, the hoi polloi in the west, will "keep calm and carry on". At this point it seems immaterial who the next POTUS is.

That does not seem correct.

The policies of several countries and BRICS in general are a dismantling of Oligarchy.

However, there are indeed, bundles of legal precedents that emerge from the Roman Empire and govern Europe and America. Such legal favoritism is what is encapsulated in the term "oligarchy". The presence of the IMF is unavoidable, and it's premature to paint the brush of "evil" over something that is not understood. What seems to be indicated is the lack of understanding, and a rush to throw fuel in the fire. That is, unable to understand its failed, abortive policies, the west must project the blame elsewhere. That is what I am getting from these points.

[Vicus]

Jeffrey D. Sachs: The BRICS Summit Should Mark the End of Neocon Delusions

The recent BRICS Summit in Kazan, Russia should mark the end of the Neocon delusions encapsulated in the subtitle of Zbigniew Brzezinski’s 1997 book, The Global Chessboard: American Primacy and its Geostrategic Imperatives. Since the 1990s, the goal of American foreign policy has been “primacy,” aka global hegemony. The U.S. methods of choice have been wars, regime change operations, and unilateral coercive measures (economic sanctions). Kazan brought together 35 countries with more than half the world population that reject the U.S. bullying and that are not cowed by U.S. claims of hegemony.

In the Kazan Declaration, the countries underscored “the emergence of new centres of power, policy decision-making and economic growth, which can pave the way for a more equitable, just, democratic and balanced multipolar world order.” They emphasized “the need to adapt the current architecture of international relations to better reflect the contemporary realities,” while declaring their “commitment to multilateralism and upholding the international law, including the Purposes and Principles enshrined in the Charter of the United Nations (UN) as its indispensable cornerstone.” They took particular aim at the sanctions imposed by the U.S. and its allies, holding that “Such measures undermine the UN Charter, the multilateral trading system, the sustainable development and environmental agreements.”

Time has run out on the neocon delusions, and the U.S. wars of choice.

The neocon quest for global hegemony has deep historical roots in America’s belief in its exceptionalism. In 1630, John Winthrop invoked the Gospels in describing the Massachusetts Bay Colony as a “City on the Hill,” declaring grandiosely that “The eyes of all people are upon us.” In the 19th century, America was guided by Manifest Destiny, to conquer North America by displacing or exterminating the native peoples. In the course of World War II, Americans embraced the idea of the “American Century,” that after the war the U.S. would lead the world.

The U.S. delusions of grandeur were supercharged with the collapse of the Soviet Union at the end of 1991. With America’s Cold War nemesis gone, the ascendant American neoconservatives conceived of a new world order in which the U.S. was the sole superpower and the policeman of the world. Their foreign policy instruments of choice were wars and regime-change operations to overthrow governments they disliked.

Following 9/11, the neocons planned to overthrow seven governments in the Islamic world, starting with Iraq, and then moving on to Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran. According to Wesley Clark, former Supreme Commander of NATO, the neocons expected the U.S. to prevail in these wars in 5 years. Yet now, more than 20 years on, the neocon-instigated wars continue while the U.S. has achieved absolutely none of its hegemonic objectives.

The neocons reasoned back in the 1990s that no country or group of countries would ever dare to stand up to U.S. power. Brzezinski, for example, argued in The Grand Chessboard that Russia would have no choice but to submit to the U.S.-led expansion of NATO and the geopolitical dictates of the U.S. and Europe, since there was no realistic prospect of Russia successfully forming an anti-hegemonic coalition with China, Iran and others. As Brzezinski put it:

“Russia’s only real geostrategic option—the option that could give Russia a realistic international role and also maximize the opportunity of transforming and socially modernizing itself—is Europe. And not just any Europe, but the transatlantic Europe of the enlarging EU and NATO.” (emphasis added, Kindle edition, p. 118)

Brzezinski was decisively wrong, and his misjudgment helped to lead to the disaster of the war in Ukraine. Russia did not simply succumb to the U.S. plan to expand NATO to Ukraine, as Brzezinski assumed it would. Russia said a firm no, and was prepared to wage war to stop the U.S. plans. As a result of the neocon miscalculations vis-à-vis Ukraine, Russia is now prevailing on the battlefield, and hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians are dead.

continue: https://scheerpost.com/2024/11/03/je...con-delusions/

[Bill Ryan]

Nothing radically new here (so far in the live video), though there's a ton of very interesting fine detail about BRICS and everything related and connected.

This is really for devotees of Pepe Escobar, of which I'm one. The livestream started half an hour ago and may last for quite a long time.

Pepe Escobar: Iran Readies Deadly Warheads for Israel, Putin's BRICS Bombshell Shocks NATO — WW3 Next?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=YXwD-SGRmj8

[OnyxKnight]

Posted by shaberon (here)
The policies of several countries and BRICS in general are a dismantling of Oligarchy.

However, there are indeed, bundles of legal precedents that emerge from the Roman Empire and govern Europe and America. Such legal favoritism is what is encapsulated in the term "oligarchy". The presence of the IMF is unavoidable, and it's premature to paint the brush of "evil" over something that is not understood. What seems to be indicated is the lack of understanding, and a rush to throw fuel in the fire. That is, unable to understand its failed, abortive policies, the west must project the blame elsewhere. That is what I am getting from these points.

"On 1 January 2024, Egypt, United Arab Emirates, Ethiopia and Iran officially joined the bloc."

Joining the already present Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa.

All of these countries have many, many things in common, but dealing away with oligarchies, major banksters, decaying levels of corruption, no active war engagements or supporting wars financially, high levels of crime and disrespect of human rights, or modern-day hostile territorial expansion and takeover, colonialism-style .... are not one of them.

I understand the need for a counter-balance to what we perceive as the world order, primarily run by the globalized West factor.

BRICS is not the answer. Its the building blocks (bricks) to a different kind of demise.

We need to carve forward a Third Path of sorts. A cooperation of the yet Unaligned. With definitely a different approach than either of those other two.

[shaberon]

Here's something that might be able to help me. Sounds like where we are headed:

A rising number of US citizens are considering changing their place of residence due to political instability at home, which is largely caused by the upcoming presidential election, Bloomberg news agency reported on Saturday, citing emigration experts.

The news agency cited Jen Barnett, the founder of Expatsi, a company that helps Americans figure out how they can realistically leave the country, as saying that demand for their services shot up 900% after the debate between then-presidential contenders Joe Biden and Donald Trump.

Barnett said that an Expatsi poll showed in October that 7,000 US nationals were interested in emigrating. The political schism in the United States was among the top reasons for wanting to leave, second only to "adventure and personal growth," the expert added.

Basil Mohr-Elzeki, managing director at Henley & Partners, said that the total number of inquires from the US had risen by 500% since 2020 and that the first 10 months of 2024 saw more demand than all of 2023.
Global Citizen Solutions co-founder Artur Saraiva emphasized that the presidential election played a major role in Americans' decision to leave. Bloomberg reported that many US citizens were looking into residency-by-investment programs, with the most popular destinations being Antigua and Barbuda, Portugal, Malta, Greece and Spain.

Sounds expensive, for a place that was nominally built by automatically granting asylum to the "poor", you have to be rich to reverse that decision.

I wouldn't mind doing it for a low, monotonous assignment. I'm certainly not an investor, and I think our relative prosperity died when Clinton repealed Glass-Steagall. Now, hardly anyone drives beat-up old cars besides me. You can easily see that none of that is cheap, you can barely function without spinning a hamster wheel as fast as possible, which might not be so bad if there was a point to it.

There isn't.

[shaberon]

Posted by OnyxKnight (here)
BRICS si not the answer. Its the building blocks (bricks) to a different kind of demise.

We need to carve forward a Third Path of sorts. A cooperation of the yet Unaligned. With definitely a different approach than either of those other two.

I understand the concern, but it is evading the issue.

BRICS is a financial system, not a moral or policy-driven alignment.

Such concerns always automatically tell us about "demise" and the like, which I don't understand.

Capitalism is already in "demise", and, BRICS is a set of very different procedures. Because the designated economies have boomed under "sanctions", I don't see how we can automatically designate it for "failure" based on a suspicious attitude.

My suggestion would be to stick to the procedures and investigate how they work differently. This is what "is" happening, rather than what "should" be, whereas for instance here in America, the federal government will scarf most of the money from the locals and set standards on which they may allow it to "trickle" back, based on following this or that federal preference. It's like watching Titans rise while I rot away in discontent, humbled by an ancient system of asset transfer.

[shaberon]

This is what it looks like after being carpet bombed to a 30% genocide:






This is what it sounds like when you drop the aggression over a few miles of border:

The Chinese and Indian military are efficiently implementing the resolutions on the disengagement of troops in the region of Ladakh along the unofficial border between the two countries, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Mao Ning said on Monday.

"The Chinese and Indian troops are implementing the resolutions that the two sides reached on issues concerning the border area, which is going smoothly at the moment," Mao told a briefing when asked about the disengagement process in the Eastern Ladakh.

That turns a corner, there has been a lot of nationalistic pride wrapped up in what amounts to a bunch of gravel. It sounds trivial, but, that was over a billion versus over a billion people that has no excuse for tension. Without this hubristic obstacle, there isn't much reason that the largest countries cannot "stabilize".

As I have said, one of the few "good" things I have perceived on a socio-political level was the end of the Iron Curtain. Unfortunately, I was tricked and it was abused--and the ongoing policies since then have led to a few other "good turns":

- Bridge from Russia to China

- Detente between India and China

- Withdrawal of Saudi interference from Syria

- Iranian regional authority


none of which directly affects me. And, the Iron Curtain has effectively been returned to me. So, I can't really figure out anything "good" in my entire life that my system has achieved. Nothing really. Others when acting independent of it sound progressive. I would think that is normal, although I haven't experienced it.

[Michel Leclerc]

Posted by shaberon (here)
This is what it looks like after being carpet bombed to a 30% genocide:






This is what it sounds like when you drop the aggression over a few miles of border:

The Chinese and Indian military are efficiently implementing the resolutions on the disengagement of troops in the region of Ladakh along the unofficial border between the two countries, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Mao Ning said on Monday.

"The Chinese and Indian troops are implementing the resolutions that the two sides reached on issues concerning the border area, which is going smoothly at the moment," Mao told a briefing when asked about the disengagement process in the Eastern Ladakh.

That turns a corner, there has been a lot of nationalistic pride wrapped up in what amounts to a bunch of gravel. It sounds trivial, but, that was over a billion versus over a billion people that has no excuse for tension. Without this hubristic obstacle, there isn't much reason that the largest countries cannot "stabilize".

As I have said, one of the few "good" things I have perceived on a socio-political level was the end of the Iron Curtain. Unfortunately, I was tricked and it was abused--and the ongoing policies since then have led to a few other "good turns":

- Bridge from Russia to China

- Detente between India and China

- Withdrawal of Saudi interference from Syria

- Iranian regional authority


none of which directly affects me. And, the Iron Curtain has effectively been returned to me. So, I can't really figure out anything "good" in my entire life that my system has achieved. Nothing really. Others when acting independent of it sound progressive. I would think that is normal, although I haven't experienced it.

Yes, Shaberon. This general feeling is also mine. The West absolutely misused/abused its window of opportunity and the harvest is bitter. And yes, I am thrilled by the fact that the countries you mention have many reasons for hope. Especially the detente between China and India, as you point out, and the detente between “Arabia” in Iran. Because of my deep sympathy for Pakistan and Bangla Desh – as the victims of the British “divide and rule” political style that "punished" the Raj for wanting its independence after WWII – I pray also for the final healing of Pakistan – which both detentes facilitated by Vladimir Putin’s authority may well bring about. When enmity between the two pairs of powers (Iran/Arabia and India/China) no longer exists, there will be no reason for military dictatorship in Pakistan any more. But —— this might remain a dream when Zionism manages to divide and rule – with Western help.

[OnyxKnight]

Posted by shaberon (here)
That turns a corner, there has been a lot of nationalistic pride wrapped up in what amounts to a bunch of gravel. It sounds trivial, but, that was over a billion versus over a billion people that has no excuse for tension. Without this hubristic obstacle, there isn't much reason that the largest countries cannot "stabilize".

If you think that solves everything, you're vastly underestimating the situation. India and China are not even rivals, they are competitors. Look at their economic policies, always trying to one up each other. China also isn't backing down from aggressive conquest attempts. They have feuds and disputes with all of their neighbors (they even butted heads with Russia over comments about the Vladivostok area), and even those countries who aren't direct neighbors (including Australia, and even Africa).

These are NOT, good guys. Ignoring the bad things done is why we arrived where we are at with the so-called West. You are repeating the same mistakes here.