Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

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For the fans of cryptic numerology:


12:09 Israeli media: A missile has directly hit Tel Aviv airport for the first time since the onset of war
12:06 Trump Declares Victory in US Presidential Race as He Wins Key Swing States

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Meanwhile, over in realpolitik:


‘Fire Your Own Missile!’


That's right. You can click through or call, and, get your very own missile with a target and obscene message of your choice. Presto! Like Christmas elves. They work so hard:


The militia reportedly also has other means to collect funds for the war effort, with maritime business media publishing a series of reports this week citing a United Nations document which has yet to be made public suggesting the militia is earning as much as $180 million a month in ‘tolls’ from shipping companies seeking to avoid attacks as their vessels sail through the Red Sea and the Gulf of Aden.


There you go. Privateering. Queen Elizabeth, let them eat cake! Or bread. Or whoever it was or whatever they said. All manner of banditry has been approved for this purpose. If it makes money, we need this, to honeycomb the deserts with thousands of factories of things that go boom. See, you really don't need that American tax-and-bribe swindle. This is all very honest and super easy! It's tremendously super easy when you have no fear of death. It's a certain psychological standard we ask for. I can tell if you're faking it. You can't have Stupidity in the ranks or it all starts again.

But, yes, if the "countries" can't help, private citizens can. It's the gift that keeps on giving. It's not the one where you check "turkey" or "ham" for a donated meal, it's the kind that kills human beings. Just so we are clear on where we are going with this, in case there were any questions. It's not about "defense" or some moral issue. It's a weapon.


And another review of a certain unexpected burying of hatchets:

Written by Damir Nazarov

Against the background of the magnificent resistance of Hezbollah, there was talk about the weak role of Iraq and Syria in supporting the Islamic resistance of Lebanon. If in the situation in Syria we observe the old problem of the Baathist worldview(the ruling party simply does not want to take part in the battles against Zionism), then in Iraq the problem is of a different nature.

Since the beginning of October, information has been received about the visits of important Hezbollah members to Iraq, some figures conveyed a message from Muhammad Kawtharani himself to a number of Shiite figures from the Sadrist camp, ISCI, prominent ayatollahs of Najaf, a number of commanders of resistance factions, key politicians from reputable political parties and various social organizations. According to information sources, the message contained a call for readiness to “fight the Zionists for a long time to the bitter end,” the message also contained strict instructions to begin the process of “distancing oneself from internal conflicts and internecine strife.” Actually, Hezbollah hints that the sweet time of the leaders of the Iraqi Shiites is over, now they will either have to adopt new rules, where the main goal of the Shiite community of Iraq will be to resist the invaders, or they will be forced to ignominiously go to the sidelines of history.

If, politically, Hezbollah’s task is to find a consensus between Sadr’s supporters on the one hand and Maliki on the other, then in terms of ideology, the Lebanese are going to restructure the “coordination center of the Islamic resistance factions.” The disagreements between Kataeb Hezbollah, Asaib al-Haq and Kataeb Sayyed Al-Shuhada are too much tired of each other. This will be followed by a stage of “universal inter-Shiite unity”, where all the mentioned parties will play a major role. By the way, it is interesting that the supporters of BADR and his shadow leader Hadi al-Ameri and the Harakat al-Nujaba faction were not listed in the plans, since both organizations are already mentally prepared for the plans of Hezbollah and their friends from the IRGC.

The eternal conflicts within the Shiites of Iraq and the weak resistance to the Zionists became the main motive for Hezbollah to seize Iraq into a new base of support and create a new “model of existence” for Shiite society. From a strategic point of view, Hezbollah chose a convenient moment to form its foothold in Iraq, because eventually the Hashemite autocracy will collapse in neighboring Jordan, which means that there will be an opportunity for a new front of the holy war against the Zionists. This is where the pro-Hezbollah Iraqis will prove themselves. Due to the reluctance of the Syrians to expand the front against the enemy, Jordan will become more than enough territory for resistance.

Conclusion. Hezbollah has already established an operational base in Syria. Now, the Lebanese are ready to fully settle in Iraq, it will not be something like a branch of the party or a “reserve foothold”, as in Syria, something more is expected, dimensional and sustainable for decades. To be clear, the activities of the “revolutionary Lebanese” in Iraq are reminiscent of the 1980s, when Iranians traveled to Lebanon to create the very Hezbollah. Thus, attempts to unsettle the Islamic Resistance of Lebanon turned into a real disaster for Zionism. In addition to the fact that Hezbollah already has at least three leadership (local Lebanese, additional military command in Syria and a religious branch in Iran), the symbol of the Axis of Resistance has finally settled in Iraq and is preparing for new rounds of struggle against occupation.

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VIDEO: Aftermath of new Israeli airstrikes on Lebanon

Israeli military aircraft have flown eight bombing raids on the southern suburbs of the Lebanese capital Beirut targeting the areas of Haret Hreik, Al-Laylaki, Al-Maamoura, Burj al-Barajneh and the Al-Amrikan neighborhood. As a result of the raids, several buildings have been destroyed or damaged.

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[Rizotto]

Nice try, Netanyahu. Hopefully Trump will listen to sane advisors this time, like Ron Paul, if Trump really means it when he says he wants to stop all wars. Surely Trump knows by now that to push further antagonism against Iran will lead to WW3...

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"As it appears slightly more likely that Donald Trump will secure a second term as US President, the danger of neocons yet again infesting his cabinet and Administration is steadily increasing. Trump told Rogan what a mistake it was to hire John Bolton last time around...but is he in danger of making an even worse mistake with Mike Pompeo? And the other neocons champing at the bit to return to power?"

Trump: Beware Mike Pompeo...And The Other Neocon Snakes In The Grass!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=M4FJI8Tw6Lo

Edited to add:
MUST watch the above video, has fascinating clips of Tucker Carlson relating how Pompeo threatened him if he discussed JFK's assassination, and Julian Assange who says that Pompeo was looking to assassinate him during his confinement in the Ecuadorian embassy.

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It's time to take a close look at one of the biggest factor instigating wars in the middle east: the 'zionist christians'.

Both Trump and Pompeo (and other neocons?) are operating with the 'zionist christians' cult, whose beliefs are that they must unconditionally support Israel. It's not clear at this time whether Trump and Pompeo are truly believers of this stuff, or whether they're just using this cult to gain political points. But it's a fact that both Trump and Pompeo have in the past shown public support for this cult core beliefs, which are that they must support whatever Israel wants, including WW3, to make the second coming of Jesus to happen, at which point they earn a speedy ticket to heaven, i.e. the 'rapture'. While the rest of us go to hell.

Personally, I have big doubts about the 'rapture', but a nuclear WW3 is certain to be hell for all of us.

This cult is unfortunately not a joke. It's real, their significant numbers (11 millions ?) are widespread throughout USA where they have a strong grip on congress.
We need this expose this insanity for what it is.

There are many of them here in Canada, and I've had run-ins with them. They're scary in their joy over Israel's butchery of Arabs. For example, they rejoiced about Israel's booby trapping pagers in Lebanon, even though the UN identified this as a crime against humanity which indiscriminately killed civilinas, even children. About the recent doctors' reports that great numbers of Gaza children are being killed by snipers, these 'zionist christians' claim that it is Hamas killing these children, not the IDF. If I try to provide them with evidence of Israel's genocidal crimes, then they call me 'demonic'.

Previously in this thread when I mentioned my run-ins with this cult, I was advised to just avoid those 'zionist christians'. Well, it's not about me. I don't go out of my way to be confrontational with them. The point is, this is a dangerous cult which has a good deal of sway over the most powerful military in the world, and they're pushing for WW3.
We should try to expose far and wide the insanity of this cult.

Especially now, as Netanyahu is getting increasingly desperate, Israel is losing ground wars. That is the point where they may resort to nukes.

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https://sana.sy/en/?p=341229

November 7, 2024

UNRWA is facing its “darkest hour” and requires support by Member States, Lazzarini says

New York, SANA- Commissioner-General of the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees (UNRWA), Philippe Lazzarini, has called on member states of the United Nations General Assembly to act in defense of Palestinian refugees and the agency, which is facing its “darkest hour.”

“UNRWA is the mechanism through which this Assembly has tasked the United Nations to assist Palestine Refugees…. Unique among UN agencies, UNRWA is mandated to directly provide public-like services, including education for more than half a million children, primary healthcare and social support,” Lazzarini said in a statement Wednesday.

He called on the Member States to act to prevent the implementation of the legislation against UNRWA, which includes preventing the agency’s activities in the Palestinian territories.

Lazzarini noted that changes to the agency’s mandate are within the jurisdiction of the General Assembly. He also called for continuing to provide the necessary support to the agency to enable it to continue performing its role.

Ruaa al-Jazaeri

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Posted by Rizotto (here)
The point is, this is a dangerous cult which has a good deal of sway over the most powerful military in the world, and they're pushing for WW3.

Oops -- this position has been rather firmly secured by Russia.

The one you are referring to is perhaps the "most dangerous" military in the world.

Just tell them they are illiterate brain-dead apes. That part is basically true. They may not like it, but who likes them?

I don't see a problem in being a little rude sometimes if the human race is being exterminated like roaches. I doubt the point will get across or any of those people will change, but, at least we don't have to be "one nation" about it. The last time I checked, here in the states we just elected someone who seriously said the country does not want me. I would be glad to leave if I could. So, the usual outcome of such a level of disagreement is that our countries fall apart. That is also fine. Whatever it takes to remove "the cult" from power.

I thought a resurge of Orthodoxy might do it, but obviously no one has an interest in Christianity. They have addictions and crutches.

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Shaberon, not so much brain-dead as heart-dead.

I prefer brain-dead persons with a heart to heart-dead people with a brain. A great capacity to love will make stupid people harmless; high intelligence will turn heart-dead people into monsters.

(Yet, I do not discount the possibility that using one’s brain may help one to become a better person. Socrates already demonstrated that. Conversely, listening to one’s heart may heighten one’s resolve to study and sharpen one’s mind. More in line with Pythagoras’ and Jesus’ approach.)

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Posted by Michel Leclerc (here)
...not so much brain-dead as heart-dead.

Yes...upgrade taken.

That is why it can't be reasoned with.

I partly understand Rizotto's view, not because I know Zionists or find them discussing something publicly. It comes from a few missions to penetrate their dens and politely attempt to affect the mentality by reason and such. It was a total loss.

Maybe someone could do better than me by using the appropriate sayings from Jesus against the Arab genocide doctrine. After all, the problem mainly comes down to Christian Zionists. I'm not a member, it might take a Quaker or someone like that. Preferably a Bishop. The kind of person who won't be seen as a threat because they are part of something similar.


We are on a six-month plan to eradicate North Gaza, and there has got to be a message from Jesus to refute it somewhere. If that is not the grimmest half-year conceivable, it leads to everlasting damnation:

The Israeli Defense Ministry signed a $5.2 billion deal on November 6 to procure F-15IA fighter jets, the Israeli variant of the advanced F-15EX, from the United States.

The deal includes 25 F-15IA jets, produced by Boeing, with options for 25 more. The deal will be financed by U.S. military aid to Israel. Under the deal, the jets will be supplied to the Israeli Air Force (IAF) in batches of four to six a year, starting in 2031.

In a statement, the Israeli Defense Ministry said that the new fighter jets will be “equipped with cutting-edge weapon systems, including the integration of state-of-the-art Israeli technologies.”

“The upgraded aircraft will feature enhanced range capabilities, increased payload capacity, and improved performance across various operational scenarios. These advantages will enable the Israeli Air Force to maintain its strategic superiority in addressing current and future challenges in the Middle East,” the ministry added.

The deal with the U.S. came as Israel continues its war against the Hamas Movement in the Gaza Strip, where over 43,000 Palestinians have been killed so far. It also came as Israel was expanding operations against Hezbollah in Lebanon, where another 3,000 people have been killed.

Eyal Zamir, the Defense Ministry director general, noted in the statement that since the beginning of the war Israel has secured nearly $40 billion worth of procurement agreements.

The additional fighter jets will bolster the offensive capabilities of the IAF, which currently operates over 60 F-15s in addition to over 170 F-16s and some 39 F-35s.

The IAF remains the keystone of Israel’s military strategy. Over the last year, Israel used its superior aerial capabilities against most of its enemies, from Gaza, to Lebanon, Syria, Yemen and even against Iran twice.

The F-15 deal, which is in reality a free grant, shows how the U.S. continues to provide unwavering support to Israel despite the rising death toll of its ongoing multi-front war and growing accusations of human rights violations and war crimes.

I meant the way I described it as a sober fact, like water is wet. I would expect there is a Christian way to convey the same thing. Someone should start doing that. Not like the Pope and say "we need peace and humanitarian aid", but why it isn't right.

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Has the pope spoken against this genocide? As far as I know at this time, all the pope said was to express his opposition to Israeli snipers killing two christian women in a church in Gaza. That was several months ago. Since then, there most likely are more christians in Gaza that have been murdered by the IDF.

I tried reasoning with members of the 'cult', trying to bring the discussion towards "what would Jesus do, or say about this genocide". They just won't go there. They're steeped over their head into the bloody apocalyptic scriptures "Revelations", which they hold to be the voice of god. Shaberon is correct to say that it would take some prominent accredited Christian to persuade the members of this cult to let go of their blood lust. But apparently no one has shown up for this role. And they don't like the pope anyway.

Here's another possibility, but I think only a Jewish person would be able to make these zionists to stop lying, and to listen.
Someone like Gabor Mate, perhaps. Watch his approach in this 3 minutes video:

'You live in a bubble': Gabor Maté answers question from Israeli audience member

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=2CTpVNKw7UM

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Israel has sent 'rescue planes' to Amsterdam after locals came after and attacked numerous Israeli 'Maccabi Tel Aviv' fans for tearing down Palestinian flags, chanting "F*ck Palestine," and mocking dead children in Gaza, before the Champions' League Match against 'Ajax.'

Some of the Israelis were soldiers.

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‘House of horrors’: Israeli journalist-turned-intel officer confirms widescale torture of Palestinians
Wyatt ReedNovember 8, 2024

Horrifying testimony of scenes in a detention center for Palestinians appear to constitute an unprecedented public admission of torture by Israeli forces. The testimony was delivered by an Israeli reporter who served as an intel officer after October 7.


A well-known Israeli journalist and former soldier has offered the first apparent acknowledgement of wide-scale torture by his country’s military, describing “masses” of Palestinians who were left “lying… in handcuffs” while subjected to never-ending Israeli music at the Hakirya military compound. He referred to the facility as “some kind of house of horrors, with screams coming from all directions.”

The admission came during a Hebrew-language podcast appearance by Amichai Attali, who works as the Knesset correspondent for Israeli outlet Ynet, and moonlit as a reserve intelligence officer in the Israeli army. The journalist’s confession adds a layer of irony to the Israeli army’s allegation that an entire crew of Palestinian journalists working for Al Jazeera in the besieged northern Gaza Strip are, in fact, secret militants with roles in the armed wings of Hamas and Islamic Jihad.

Attali said that he spent 227 days at Hakirya, where he claimed to have performed interrogations on Palestinians who were swept up in the subsequent Israeli dragnet. After being pressed by podcast host Yair Sharkey to recount his “encounter with the face of evil,” Attali responds: “I still haven’t really fully processed it.”

As the increasingly dissociating intelligence officer recalled “scenes” in which “a lot of people are concentrated,” it became apparent that the faces of evil were worn by Israeli jailers themselves.

Though Attali claims he only interacted with detained Palestinians in supposedly “sterile” interrogations, he made clear he had no outlet from the horrors being unleashed at Hakirya, where soldiers blasted Israeli music for hours at a time in order to induce psychological breakdowns among their victims.

Referring to an infamous Israeli children’s track which went viral on Israeli social media after soldiers recorded themselves subjecting blindfolded Palestinians to endless repetitions of it, Attali asks: “All those videos of ‘Meni Mamtera’ – you’re familiar with those?”

“Well, I saw it with my own eyes – they repeatedly played Shuli Rand’s ‘Ayeka,’” he laughs, concluding: “You know, it’s a song I like but they managed to make me tired of it.”

After describing the sonic torture inflicted on the jailed Palestinians, Attali suddenly grew introspective.

“Like, you say to yourself, ‘What is this place I’m in?”” He added: “To tell you the truth, even later, during the interrogation phase… it’s like a feeling of some kind of house of horrors, with screams coming from all directions.”

“Because even during the so-called ‘sterile investigation,’ your goal is to extract intelligence.”