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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    Another useful summary here via Ukraine Watch on Telegram. This is only a summary of the hits in western Ukraine, not in other areas: many many other targets across the whole of Ukraine were struck:
    💥 Results and Consequences of Massive Strikes on Energy Infrastructure in Western Ukraine

    Russian forces conducted a large-scale operation targeting key energy infrastructure in Ukraine. The attacks focused on substations, thermal power plants, and critical facilities in western regions, leading to significant disruptions in the country’s power grid.

    🔻 Vinnytsia Oblast

    Humenne: Vinnytsia Substation (750 kV)
    📍 Coordinates: 49.164722, 28.722222

    Impact: Four cruise missiles damaged distribution equipment and power transformers.
    Consequences: Complete shutdown of the substation; fire localized, but energy transmission to the region’s central hub remains disrupted.

    Ladyzhyn: Ladyzhyn Thermal Power Plant (TPP)
    📍 Coordinates: 48.705278, 29.213333

    Impact: Equipment of one power unit destroyed; main transmission lines damaged.
    Consequences: Full cessation of power generation; repairs expected to take at least two weeks.

    Bar: Bar Substation (330 kV)
    📍 Coordinates: 49.083056, 27.743611

    Impact: Two missiles disabled autotransformers and distribution devices.
    Consequences: Severe fire; significant power outages in the region.

    🔻 Volyn Oblast

    Kovel: Kovel Substation (330 kV)
    📍 Coordinates: 51.191651, 24.717033
    Impact: Open distribution equipment damaged; fire localized.
    Consequences: Power system disruptions in the western region; energy supply partially restored.

    🔻 Rovno Oblast

    Rovno: Rovno Substation (330 kV)
    📍 Coordinates: 50.641152, 26.224555
    Impact: Autotransformer and oil circuit breakers destroyed.
    Consequences: Power shortage in the northwest of Ukraine; restoration work expected to take several days.

    🔻 Ivano-Frankovsk Oblast

    Burshtyn: Burshtyn TPP
    📍 Coordinates: 49.206560, 24.668989
    Impact: Two "Kinzhal" missiles damaged the pumping station and transformer of Unit 8.
    Consequences: Partial generation halted; reduced power capacity in the region.

    🔻 Lvov Oblast

    Dobrotvor: Dobrotvor TPP
    📍 Coordinates: 50.214029, 24.376031
    Impact: Cooling and steam exhaust systems damaged.
    Consequences: The station operates at minimal capacity, worsening the region’s energy deficit.
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    From Ukraine Watch, again, and something to be very aware of. Dangerous times....

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    ❗️ Today's massive strike on Ukraine overshadowed another news story being heavily promoted in Western media, particularly in the Baltic states, which seem to meddle in every issue — @rybar

    U.S. Air Force B-52H bombers conducted a flight over the Baltic Sea, Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania, where they launched guided bombs at the Kazlu-Ruda training ground.

    According to NATO statements, the training was conducted under the scenario of a conflict in the Suwalki Corridor area. During the B-52H strikes, four reconnaissance aircraft were in the air, monitoring the actions of Russian servicemen in the Kaliningrad region. NATO reconnaissance aviation operates similarly over the Black Sea, searching for air defense positions and other key targets.

    This is the first demonstrative flight of U.S. nuclear-capable bombers near Russia's borders since their relocation to the UK, and likely not the last, much to the delight of their lackeys, judging by previous missions.

    @ukraine_watch

    Source: https://t.me/ukraine_watch/32666

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    From Rybar on Telegram:
    🇷🇺🇺🇦 Attempt of Ukrainian Attack with USVs in the Black Sea

    While all eyes were focused on the massive strike by the Russian Armed Forces (https://t.me/rybar/65452) on the territory of the so-called Ukraine, the AFU decided to attack in the Black Sea under the cover of this. Around 4-6 am, a group of unmanned surface vehicles (USVs) was spotted in the area of gas fields west of Crimea.

    These are the facilities that stopped functioning for security reasons after the start of the special operation, but the infrastructure in the form of platforms remained there, and the Ukrainian side periodically tries to capture them and land personnel on the available platforms.

    ❓The last such attempt (https://t.me/rybar/63446) was in September. The drilling platforms are quite large in area, and weapons such as ATGMs or MANPADS, as well as fuel and supplies, can be placed on them. Moreover, they can be equipped with communication means and repeaters, which will increase the capabilities at sea.

    Remember the inglorious landings of the airborne in Crimea? Their main disadvantage was that the distance was too great, and there was no way to supply the detachments and monitor their movements. And it was impossible to retreat, so the missions were always one-way. And to solve this problem, the Main Intelligence Directorate wants to control these platforms.

    🔻But our units immediately detected the appearance of the USVs and sent a interception group, which began to shoot them down with small arms. As a result, four out of five drones were destroyed, the last one turned around and left in the direction of Odesa.

    There was also a sixth one, but it went a different route, and was spotted 35 km from Cape Tarkhankut, where it was conducting reconnaissance. But after sending a helicopter of the Black Sea Fleet after it, the USV turned around and also disappeared in the direction of the Odesa region.

    ❗️It is important that such USV raids have not been seen for a very long time, and the resumption of their activity indicates that the AFU have replenished their stocks. Today in Crimea, the missile danger alert was introduced several times, including in the eastern parts of the peninsula. We will observe, but clearly the enemy will not stop at just this sortie.

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    #Odesa #Russia #Sevastopol #Ukraine
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    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)
    Another useful summary here via Ukraine Watch on Telegram. This is only a summary of the hits in western Ukraine, not in other areas: many many other targets across the whole of Ukraine were struck:
    💥 Results and Consequences of Massive Strikes on Energy Infrastructure in Western Ukraine

    Russian forces conducted a large-scale operation targeting key energy infrastructure in Ukraine. The attacks focused on substations, thermal power plants, and critical facilities in western regions, leading to significant disruptions in the country’s power grid.

    🔻 Vinnytsia Oblast

    Humenne: Vinnytsia Substation (750 kV)
    📍 Coordinates: 49.164722, 28.722222

    Impact: Four cruise missiles damaged distribution equipment and power transformers.
    Consequences: Complete shutdown of the substation; fire localized, but energy transmission to the region’s central hub remains disrupted.

    Ladyzhyn: Ladyzhyn Thermal Power Plant (TPP)
    📍 Coordinates: 48.705278, 29.213333

    Impact: Equipment of one power unit destroyed; main transmission lines damaged.
    Consequences: Full cessation of power generation; repairs expected to take at least two weeks.

    Bar: Bar Substation (330 kV)
    📍 Coordinates: 49.083056, 27.743611

    Impact: Two missiles disabled autotransformers and distribution devices.
    Consequences: Severe fire; significant power outages in the region.

    🔻 Volyn Oblast

    Kovel: Kovel Substation (330 kV)
    📍 Coordinates: 51.191651, 24.717033
    Impact: Open distribution equipment damaged; fire localized.
    Consequences: Power system disruptions in the western region; energy supply partially restored.

    🔻 Rovno Oblast

    Rovno: Rovno Substation (330 kV)
    📍 Coordinates: 50.641152, 26.224555
    Impact: Autotransformer and oil circuit breakers destroyed.
    Consequences: Power shortage in the northwest of Ukraine; restoration work expected to take several days.

    🔻 Ivano-Frankovsk Oblast

    Burshtyn: Burshtyn TPP
    📍 Coordinates: 49.206560, 24.668989
    Impact: Two "Kinzhal" missiles damaged the pumping station and transformer of Unit 8.
    Consequences: Partial generation halted; reduced power capacity in the region.

    🔻 Lvov Oblast

    Dobrotvor: Dobrotvor TPP
    📍 Coordinates: 50.214029, 24.376031
    Impact: Cooling and steam exhaust systems damaged.
    Consequences: The station operates at minimal capacity, worsening the region’s energy deficit.
    And, here, from Rybar on Telegram:
    What is known about the combined strike by the Russian Armed Forces on the territory of the so-called Ukraine as of 4 PM

    This night, the Russian troops delivered one of the largest strikes on the territory of the so-called Ukraine since the start of the SMO.

    🔻According to Ukrainian authorities, 120 missiles, including cruise and ballistic missiles such as "Tsirkon", "Iskander" and "Kinzhal", as well as 90 UAVs were launched during the attack. The opponent, as usual, claimed that most of the missiles and drones were shot down.

    ▪️Based on reports online, the main targets of the Russian troops were energy facilities and enterprises involved in military production. Strikes were carried out on major cities, including Kyiv, Odesa, Dnipro, Kremenchuk and Kryvyi Rih. In the latter, there are also problems with the operation of boiler houses, partial lack of heat and water supply in the city, and critical infrastructure is powered by generators.

    ▪️After the attacks, emergency power outages were introduced in various regions of the country, including Kyiv and Odesa. Energy Minister Herman Halushchenko confirmed that there were serious power supply disruptions. According to DTEK energy company data, several thermal power plants were also hit.

    ▪️In Mykolaiv, the strikes caused significant damage to infrastructure and power outages. One of the targets, according to preliminary information, was the Kulbakino airfield. Drones and ammunition depots are located on the base territory.

    ▪️The mayor of Odesa reported a complete halt of public transport and difficulties in the work of utility services. In Lviv, fires and damage to infrastructure facilities were recorded.

    ❗️In Rivne, according to preliminary information, the 330/110 kV Rivne substation was hit, the extent of damage to the facility is still unclear. At the same time, power outages were also observed in the city and region. There are problems with the operation of boiler houses, partial lack of heat and water supply in the city, and critical infrastructure is powered by generators.

    ▪️In addition, several railway sections were de-energized, and reserve diesel locomotives were sent to restore traffic.

    📌 Online, there are also footage of impacts in the area of the town of Yaremche in the Ivano-Frankivsk region, where a large railway station of the same name is located. In addition, near the town in the mountains is the 136th Missile and Ammunition Supply Center (military unit A-1807), which could also have been a target of the raid.
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    • The UK Just Intercepted Russian Bombers - I Intercepted Their Radios!

    • Translation:
    "I'm 99-610. 10-07, 14-52, separator,
    05-59, 15-56, 25-55, 11-31, 17-87, 41-06, 61-73, separator, copy.
    I'm 99-610, separator, 1, 7, 8 (noise)...copy.
    I'm 99-610, copy.
    I'm 99-610, repeat please, copy.
    I'm 99-610, wait, please.
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    I'm 99-610, check up and correct, in the number 92, 7th group:
    separator, seven, eight, eight, seven, copy.
    I'm 99-610, accepted, checked, copy."

    @rezdm quote: "Native Russian speaker here.
    The Russian guy speaks in code. Basically, he just gives numbers (and occasionally some words), but nothing distinguishable as some information. (I am now at 3:03 mark, let's see what is further on)" unquote

    @normmcrae1140 quote: "Just remember that the Tu-95 Series are EXTREMELY LOUD!!!!! So whoever is sending the message is SHOUTING into the mike, just to be heard over the engines! I know pilots who have intercepted them, and can verify that the Bear is louder than the jets that they are sitting in! The Bear is so loud that the US tracks it by SOSUS - Microphones under the Ocean meant to track submarines. It can track a Bear from several HUNDRED miles away!"
    • Tu-95 strategic bombers perform flights as part of drills

    • (1 year ago) Russia’s Nuclear-Capable Tu-95, Tu-160 Bombers Deployed Near NATO Border:

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    RUSSIAN LAWMAKERS WARN OF WWIII AFTER BIDEN APPROVES LONG-RANGE MISSILE USE FOR UKRAINE?! Washington’s approval for Ukraine to strike Russia with U.S. long-range missiles triggered warnings from Russian lawmakers. A senior member of the Federation Council, Andrei Klishas: “The West has decided on such a level of escalation that it could end with the Ukrainian statehood in complete ruins by morning.” First deputy head of the Russian upper house’s international affairs committee, Vladimir Dzhabarov: “This is a very big step towards the start of World War Three.” Chairman of the State Duma lower house’s foreign affairs committee, Leonid ****sky: “Strikes with U.S. missiles deep into Russian regions will inevitably entail a serious escalation, which threatens to lead to much more serious consequences.”
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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    The war this time
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    "Do you feel lucky punk? It's clear that Biden, or whoever is operating him, has started WW3. Start digging"
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    Quote Posted by Rizotto (here)
    ...the royals are part of a cabal also involved in the covid scamdemic, the Syria regime change attempts which REALLY were part of the Greater Israel Project, and now this proxy war against Russia. I think most of us here instinctively knew that these issues were always all tied together and were directed from the top by the globalist cabal, and their anti-human agenda. Plandemics, regime changes, and zionism are just some of their tools.

    Yes, thank you...the "regime change attempts" were abortive, and, exposed everything on film and open-source quotes.

    I'm guessing the fact that some people couldn't "see" Syria clearly are the same who cannot "see" any Israeli crimes now.

    As for the mastermind behind what Tintin posted, I love the part about "pirates" because surprise! it is the same thing. Despite compelling evidence, even in the 1700s the British Parliament refused to take any firm stance against smuggling, because, well, most of the Lords were the smugglers.

    And yes, on the ideological plane they "started it", and now, even if smaller than the U. S., they don't give up.


    Unfortunately, for them, with the faltering of Ukraine, I am unaware of any benefit to the British government or private businesses. Fortunately, the imperialistic thing has been destroyed by Russia. Not negotiated with, despite no lack of trying, but actually destroyed.

    Remember, we are listening to a pre-recording that has already been "disproved" in Syria and now is actually "broken", but we keep hearing it go.

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    We knew that the rational, collegiate response to Trump's huge victory was deeply suspicious: this is a final 'up yours' to MAGA, they know this means Russia will kick off if they set these missiles off: Ukraine cannot fire these weapons, they don't have the means, USA/UK military teams are needed. Utter maniacs.

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    @Mike - Well said. But worse than maniacs - IMO at the top level this is spiteful, destructive evil intent.

    "Ukraine cannot fire these weapons, they don't have the means, USA/UK military teams are needed. Utter maniacs."

    Yes, indeed. This is persistently misrepresented in UK media, as "giving permission" to Ukr for deep strike missiles to be used against Russia; when the reality is for the US actually to perform the military operation - i.e. in plain words, for the US to attack Russia with missiles.

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    Quote Posted by Mike Gorman (here)
    they know this means Russia will kick off if they set these missiles off: Ukraine cannot fire these weapons, they don't have the means, USA/UK military teams are needed. Utter maniacs.
    Actually, I doubt this will come to anything — unless something major occurs, like Moscow being hit. (But as best I understand, these proposed missile attacks don't have that deep range.)

    All Trump, or someone in his team, has to do is call Putin and say: "We apologize. This doesn't represent the policies of the incoming new administration. As soon as Biden is gone, we'll cancel this." I'd be prepared to bet this may even have happened already.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Mike Gorman (here)
    they know this means Russia will kick off if they set these missiles off: Ukraine cannot fire these weapons, they don't have the means, USA/UK military teams are needed. Utter maniacs.
    Actually, I doubt this will come to anything — unless something major occurs, like Moscow being hit. (But as best I understand, these proposed missile attacks don't have that deep range.)

    All Trump, or someone in his team, has to do is call Putin and say: "We apologize. This doesn't represent the policies of the incoming new administration. As soon as Biden is gone, we'll cancel this." I'd be prepared to bet this may even have happened already.
    Likewise. It was a NYT header with its usual bluster. It seems other outlets are talking about geographic 'limitations' (again!) and certain conditions.

    There are of course those in the 'complex' that'd like a bit more money, and Biden has always been one of those, so this may amount to nothing more than a kind of "golden handshake" ("Build some more ATACMS, we've run out!!") for those in his coterie unlikely to see much more of it after he's gone.

    I'm a little more concerned about what NATO may have, if anything, planned for Kaliningrad right now.
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    ...the royals are part of a cabal also involved in the covid scamdemic, the Syria regime change attempts which REALLY were part of the Greater Israel Project, and now this proxy war against Russia. I think most of us here instinctively knew that these issues were always all tied together and were directed from the top by the globalist cabal, and their anti-human agenda. Plandemics, regime changes, and zionism are just some of their tools.
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    At risk of going a little "off-reservation" on this thread, I came across this yesterday, and I'll pop it in here for now, as, if you think about the WW3 theme, and it being a hybrid "operation" ("Operation Chimera" - think dazzling), it probably is on-topic after all. Open warfare against Earth's populations was declared at least as recently as 2020, although it is several centuries older, as we know. This piece here is to do with the whole psycho-social engineering experiment called COVID-19: notice a pattern confirmation?

    Somebody already knew, and he happened to be Russian.

    ---
    From an interview from March 25th, 2020:

    -----
    V: Yeah, even toilet paper? God! Why? The goal is to scare people. Once again, these are command-and-staff exercises of the behind-the-scenes Zionist and financial liberal world powers with the aim of limiting the political rights that people are basically accustomed to having, especially in Western Europe. That’s their second goal.

    The first goal is to reduce the population numbers on Earth. That’s their Satanic goal.

    The second, political goal of the behind-the-scenes world powers is to seize power.

    The third goal is related to finances and power over the economy.

    Financial, as we already know, at least those who are interested in this … Now, for every product that exists – please, give me your pencil. Okay. Lets say this pencil costs 1 ruble or 1 dollar – let’s say it’s 1 dollar. For this pencil, it was issued 20 times the amount – in money, in promissory notes, equities and other financial derivatives. That means, if you take the real value of this pencil, it comes with 20 different papers that carry 20 times the value. Accordingly, all the financial and economic relations have gone from the real economy to this virtual economy. It’s a financial bubble that exists now and which encompasses, I think, 1 quadrillion and 200 trillion dollars. It’s a complete financial bubble. It needs to be deflated. FRS, the Federal Reserve System, literally some days ago, that was in February, I think – they introduced a zero percent interest on deposits. Now, in many countries, it’s even a negative interest rate – that is, you deposited 100 dollars and you get 90 or 95 dollars. But at least you’re still going to get it. So, we’re already getting negative interest rates on deposits. So, that wealth has to be deflated. How will it be deflated? Again, through this artificial international … we see the economy has crashed, it’s clear, accordingly – we can’t meet your domestic demand like we did before, you need to tighten your belts etc.

    Now is a very important moment. Note, it allegedly started in China. Even though the Chinese are now adamant and report that the coronavirus was created artificially. It has an artificial origin – it’s been proven scientifically already. Of course, in every virus, seeing that it’s the simplest kind of microorganism – as far as I remember – mutations can happen, but they’re of an accidental nature. And when you take the RNA molecule, not DNA – they have RNA – and there’s a part of the genome that’s clearly been carved out and another one inserted in its place – and this happens 3 or 4 times … It is perfectly obvious that the Chinese scientists have figured this out – it was artificially created and purposely spread, initially in Wuhan. They had 2 kinds, 2 viral strains. Okay now. And what about Italy, what happened there? How come a strain that is even more dangerous that the Chinese one suddenly appears in Italy? I think now they have a few thousand infected and around 1000 have already died. But again, 100x more people die in Italy from flu, pneumonia, scrofula and hepatitis. But we don’t talk about that. Instead, we are being served special political information propaganda, psycho-informative propaganda. Special psycho-informative operation of the world globalist mass media that is serving the behind-the-scene Zionist liberal powers that are creating this terror right now. This is why we need to deal with this phenomenon as we would with a special operation that is conducted in the form of command and staff exercises. Now they’re looking – who’s obeying and who’s not. In China, they introduced strict measures.

    But, then comrade Xi went to Wuhan and put the pro-American party faction who took that road in their place. In China, not everything is smooth there. They have, let’s call them that – a pro-Chinese (patriotic) faction, that’s somewhat close to us, which is associated with Xi Jinping. And there are obviously pro-American ex-Komsomol members that are money-oriented or simply put – have their focus on the ‘dough’ (money). And they, of course, tried to use the coronavirus in Wuhan to gain certain economic and political benefits. Comrade Xi put them all in their place and, consequently, in was over with the virus in China. And then it started in Europe. Accordingly, we as a military intelligence, look at “who” (it is obvious) and “where” (it is also obvious). Europe and China are 2 geo-economic adversaries of the USA. And this is where they injected this virus.

    This virus also has a 4th dimension as well – the economic one. The first is the religious one – destruction of people on Earth, reducing the population numbers. The second one is to establish political control over humanity. The third one is the financial deflation of that gigantic financial bubble. And the fourth dimension is the elimination of their geo-economic competition. This I’m telling you from the perspective of an officer from the Defence and Strategic Studies of the General Staff of the Armed Forces. This is my assessment of the current epidemic.
    ---

    The man interviewed is Vladimir Kvachkov, former GRU intelligence specialist.

    Here's the interview which I'm led to believe is next to impossible to find on the internet now. I'll make sure it gets to the library in the next day or so.



    FULL transcript available here: https://thefreedomarticles.com/ex-ru...lation-agenda/
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    they know this means Russia will kick off if they set these missiles off: Ukraine cannot fire these weapons, they don't have the means, USA/UK military teams are needed. Utter maniacs.
    Actually, I doubt this will come to anything — unless something major occurs, like Moscow being hit. (But as best I understand, these proposed missile attacks don't have that deep range.)

    All Trump, or someone in his team, has to do is call Putin and say: "We apologize. This doesn't represent the policies of the incoming new administration. As soon as Biden is gone, we'll cancel this." I'd be prepared to bet this may even have happened already.
    Likewise. It was a NYT header with its usual bluster. It seems other outlets are talking about geographic 'limitations' (again!) and certain conditions.

    There are of course those in the 'complex' that'd like a bit more money, and Biden has always been one of those, so this may amount to nothing more than a kind of "golden handshake" ("Build some more ATACMS, we've run out!!") for those in his coterie unlikely to see much more of it after he's gone.

    I'm a little more concerned about what NATO may have, if anything, planned for Kaliningrad right now.
    ....and, (drum roll)....

    Simplicius on X

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    "The expected walkbacks have already begun:

    The French publication Le Figaro has removed information that France and Britain, following the US, have allowed Ukraine to launch strikes with its Storm Shadow (SCALP-EG) missiles deep into Russian territory.

    In turn, The Times writes that the US may not yet have given consent to Ukraine’s use of Storm Shadow missiles.

    It should be noted that despite their British origin, the Storm Shadow missiles use American technology, which requires the UK to obtain additional permission from the US.

    Thus, so far, only the information about Biden’s permission to launch ATACMS missile strikes has been reliably confirmed, with Axios clarifying that this decision only concerns the Kursk region.

    Military Informant."


    And a comment from Kit Klarenberg:
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    "Amazing spot. I was surprised by how many people who should've known better thought this was hugely significant and concrete all-out war escalation."
    9:55 AM · Nov 18, 2024


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    Angry Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

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    ...
    Why Is Biden Playing Russian Roulette With Our Lives?
    • Election Losses: They've lost the election, so what's the plan? Leave a global mess for Trump? "Here's your nuclear gift, deal with it!" ??
    • Sabotage & Legacy: Sabotage Trump's presidency before it even starts. "Let's make sure he starts with a nuclear crisis on his hands!" ??
    • Distraction Tactics: Economic disaster? Immigration chaos? No problem, let's start a war! "Look at Russia, not our failing policies!" ???
    • Power Play: The deep state loves chaos; it's their oxygen. "We'll be too important to ignore now!" ?‍??
    • War Profits: Who benefits from war? The military industrial complex, that's who! "Let's cash in on some long-range missile sales!" ?
    • Fear & Control: Keep the public in a state of fear to justify more control. "Scared people are easier to govern!" ? Peace?
    • What Peace?: Ensure that peace talks with Russia are a distant dream. "No peace for you, Trump!" ???
    • Historical Footnote: Biden wants his name in history, even if it's for bringing us to the edge of Armageddon. "Remember me for starting WWIII!"
    Vladimir Putin said it loud and clear: missiles mean nukes. Yet here we are, with Biden and his gang of globalists, gambling with the planet's future because they can't handle losing an election. This isn't leadership; it's madness!

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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    Biden’s decision to authorize Zelenskyy to use U.S.-supplied long-range missiles against Russia is the most dangerous move of his presidency. Putin has explicitly warned that such an action crosses a red line and could provoke a nuclear response.

    This isn’t just reckless—it’s insanity. Biden is gambling with the lives of millions, dragging the world closer to the brink of World War III.

    This decision isn’t about helping Ukraine; it’s about Biden’s desperate attempt to tie the hands of President-elect Trump, who has pledged to bring peace to the region. Biden’s move undermines Trump’s efforts before they even begin, ensuring the war escalates instead of de-escalating.

    It’s a final act of sabotage from an administration that has already failed catastrophically on every major issue.

    The American people deserve better than leaders who prioritize perpetual war over peace. Biden’s reckless escalation risks global catastrophe, putting the world on edge for the sake of preserving the deep state’s war machine. This isn’t leadership—it’s the height of irresponsibility.

    Diplomacy, not escalation, is the answer. Biden and his administration must be held accountable for pushing policies that endanger global security. Every second Biden remains in power is a second the world gets closer to disaster. Enough is enough.

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    LIVE: Putin's Nuclear War Threat On Cam As Biden Allows Ukraine Long-Range Strikes On

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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

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    ...
    Why Is Biden Playing Russian Roulette With Our Lives?
    Still not convinced. (Let's hope I'm right )

    This, from Will Schryver:
    "The more I think about it, the more convinced I become that it is just a psyop.

    The US/NATO lack the capability to launch any meaningful strikes "deep into Russia". In terms of ATACMS, they don't have anything even approaching an adequate stockpile, nor do they have more than just a mere handful of HIMARS/M-270 launchers in the theater of battle.

    As for Storm Shadow/SCALP cruise missiles, they don't have airframes in Ukraine, and they would not even attempt to launch strikes from Poland or Romania using NATO aircraft.

    If they launch long-range Tomahawk cruise missiles, the Russians will rightly regard it as a nuclear first-strike, and will act accordingly, including counterstrikes against the launch platforms, and against NATO bases throughout Europe.

    I think this is very likely a manufactured tempest in a teapot.
    10:48 PM · Nov 17, 2024"
    Well, they are mad by any definition of the term, and they may even try launches from Poland or Romania, but, this may just all be an aspect of 5th gen warfare: getting into the mind of the 'enemy': the cognitive option become materiel ("The Human Mind as an Operational Domain.") which is far from new of course but it seems that this is precisely the effect certain legacy media editors have been co-opted into effecting.
    ("Don't panic [for now!] Mr. Mainwaring!" - Dad's Army, UK TV show)
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    Why Is Biden Playing Russian Roulette With Our Lives?
    Still not convinced.
    • to be "conviced" of ANY legit question pointing at something that may become reality BEFORE the fact is to me an oxymoron
    And, besides, Biden is obvious not the "master mind" of anyhting.

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    Why Is Biden Playing Russian Roulette With Our Lives?
    Still not convinced.
    • to be "conviced" of ANY legit question pointing at something that may become reality BEFORE the fact is to me an oxymoron
    And, besides, Biden is obvious not the "master mind" of anyhting.

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