Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/SputnikInt/status/1866545297503162738

[Jaak]

Well,to be fair most of them were ordered to retreat and abandon their posts and after that was silence from chain of command above them . New power will probably put them all to mass graves...

https://x.com/RWApodcast/status/1866488257124409578
A convoy of former SSA soldiers, filmed by Russian soldiers in northeast Syria. They threw away their weapons and equipment, abandoned their posts and are wandering towards the Iraqi border.

It is impossible to translate the level of contempt and the harshness of the profanities in the comments the Russian soldier gives, but I tried:

"These are all those faggots who laid down their weapons, and just, just THOUSANDS, thousands, ****ing faggots, ****ing Syrians, ****ing bastards. How much have we driven? There's much more than a thousand here… ****ing hell, these ****ing faggots, running the **** away… And we're supposed to suffer here for these faggots… Just look, ****ing hell, goddamn bastards… They could have been defending their homeland… What assholes… How many of them are there, maybe five thousand here? The column doesn’t end, these scumbags… ****, they threw away their weapons… Threw away their balls… They're all bitches. Just look, the convoy doesn’t ****ing end… Holy ****, ****ing scum..."

I speak a bit of russian and i know the curse words which mainly make up the video so i guess the translation is rather correct.

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/ravenmargo1/status/1866412771912319103

[Jaak]

It seems a win-win situation for Israel. They bombed everything that could be a serious threat for them in Syria and now some fractions of the rebels that they supplied are rising up against them (as it was probably planned)... They can just cut the supply and have an good excuse why to conquer Syria (while eliminating the no longer useful idiots who destroyed Assad´s Syria that helped to destabilize it ) .

[Moemers]

damn, i guess we're gonna have to make some more missiles now that we created more people to shoot at.

[Rizotto]

I'd like to know exactly how Netanyahu is buying the Syrian 'rebels' (aka terrorists) into coexisting with Israel. No doubt the American taxpayers will be providing many $$$ for these terrorists' cooperation and silence.

[SilentFeathers]

I'm in no way an expert on the Middle East but even I can see with what's going on in Syria right now can't in anyway what so ever end well, especially for those civilians in Syria.

Israel/US right now have been destroying all kinds of Syrian military and infrastructure targets unchallenged by any one. It's like an open ended free for all, especially for Israel. Massive bombing is taking place.

Israel has moved in to the Golan area and Mt Hermon and have now strategically placed themselves a stones throw from Damascus and that whole south western area of Syria. To think all these other Arab nations (and Turkey) is going to let Israel remain there is a joke, yet, I doubt Israel will leave those areas, probably ever. A corridor has been opened straight through Syria, through Northern Iraq, right in to Iran.

I think Iran may be targeted next, if so, it'll most likely happen soon, before Trump is inaugurated on January 20th.

If Al-Jawlani and all his cut throats feel betrayed or double-crossed in any way and toss a few missiles towards Israeli strong holds in Golan etc., that'll give Israel a good reason to level Damascus. I'm sure Israel is just itching to destroy all these fighters as they know what a threat they are. This is really making me think of the Biblical prophecy in Isaiah about Damascus being turned to rubble. We may actually see this happen soon.

Things are happening really fast right now and nothing happening right now in any way is causing de-escalation of anything anywhere.

Personally, I think this whole thing is going to completely spiral out of control before Christmas....

[grapevine]

Do you think there's any merit in the idea that Erdogan wanted rid of the 3.5 million Syrian refugees? Thinking about asylum seekers' impact on UK resources, one can only imagine the stress on the Turkish infrastructure caused by such a large number of people, particularly if they're not generating much income.

[shaberon]

Seems ironic that his downfall may come from peddling influence in Hebrew tabloids.

I thought it was corruption, and I went looking round for something like Hunter Biden, and the cases against this prime minister were almost laughable in comparison. I'm not very interested in the testimony, but, if this is what they take seriously, at least it is a headache.


The articles that are telling us the region is mostly run by tribes and mafiosa are the more accurate ones. This isn't a "country" of any kind, it's an "area" that has been cut out from various empires over and over again. This is the way the French and British determined it was to be cut from the Ottoman. So it wound up being rather iron fisted, compared to Lebanon, which is more of an oligarchy. Syria has a lot of *local* powers, that are not necessarily friendly to each other. I can't imagine what it would take to get them all to actually agree on something.

It is a shame that, rather than finally clearing Idlib, it was cleared by them.

It sort of remains to be seen if the will of the Umma is to finish Zion. Isn't it accountable enough yet? Can it push someone to act who is able to deal with air forces? Volunteer militias won't have much effect because it's not very easy to get to Israel.

[shaberon]

Here comes the next little nuisance:

11,000 ISIL forces are being trained in American camps in the region to enter Iraq as soon as possible, former chief commander of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) Mohsen Rezaei says.

Saying that the recent events that happened in Lebanon and Syria may happen in Iraq in the near future, he added that there are clear signs of the enemies' fear of the independence of the countries of the region, and they will employ all their efforts to weaken them.

Referring to received information from American camps in the region, he underlined that 11,000 ISIL fighters are being trained in American camps in the region to enter Iraq as soon as possible.

Any insecurity in the region will cause irreparable damage to the countries and the regional states should be aware that the US and its allies seek to weaken nations and loot their property.

Cold sobering facts? Or empty rhetoric to try to gain friends?

Anti-American sentiment is easy, and, doing something about it is not. How super easy is it to hang on to Al Tanf and the oil fields now. Someone in Turkey won't mind buying it. And there goes another love--hate, what country do you belong to, dilemma.

[Ravenlocke]

Syria Chaos;
Erdogan Alarmed;
Israel Seizes Territory;
Naryshkin: Russia On Brink of Ukraine Victory

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZqyTwYbOn0g

[Rizotto]

That's very concerning, Shaberon, from what we already know of the rapacity of the USA deep state, most people won't be surprised if they're still aiming at destabilizing the region even more with their select terrorists: HTS, Al qaeda, or ISIL they're all useful extremists.

Since the collapse of Syria, I was rather surprised that little has been said online about Iraq (that I’m aware of). Isn’t Iraq part of the resistance, i.e. doesn't Iraq have some well-equipped militias that are opposing the USA occupation? Below is the first interview that I know of where Iraq is mentioned, and it’s alarming.

At 7:00 McGregor briefly says that the HTS terrorists are now heading towards Iraq, their next project.
Erdogan and Netanyahu currently discussing their partition of Syria. Surrounding arab states are anxiously watching the developments.

Erdogan wishes to eliminate the Kurds, who might get support from Iran. Turkey's ally Azerbaijan will support Turkey & Israel against Iran. Etc. It could devolve quickly into a regional war.

Israel is eying Damascus, with massive bombings on the city’s military.

At 19:00 What will Trump do with US troops in the area? Video clip of Jake Sullivan who currently insists on US troops remaining in Syria and Iraq, claiming they’re needed to fight off ISIS and Iranian militants. McGregor’s response: ISIS is a USA tool.

Turkey is considering driving out the Kurds from northern Syria and northern Iraq. This might lead to a confrontation with US troops on site who are supporting the Kurds.


Why Syria Fell So Fast/Now What Are We Looking At? Col Doug Macgregor

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=jEcoaMvlHcg

[Helvetic]

The Corbett Report | A Brief History of the War on Syria | Dec. 11, 2024

Source: corbettreport.com


Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/o14NQHUMFwf5


Description:

The foreign-backed terrorist insurgency in Syria has finally accomplished the globalists’ objective: regime change in Syria. But how did we get here? Who was behind this decades-long plan for reshaping the Middle East? And what does it mean for the world? Today on The Corbett Report podcast, James dives through The Corbett Report’s 13-year archives on the Syrian war to bring these events into focus.

Show Notes:

https://corbettreport.com

[Helvetic]

Pepe Escobar | Syria in Ultimate Chaos | Dec. 11, 2024

Source: Dialogue Works youtube

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=THOChcMt0SA

[Jaak]

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by Jaak (here)

This really tests the intelligence (or the stupidity) of most people getting them to believe Al-Golani is a better person to run Syria than Assad.

The hypocrisy is astonishing!

Syria is toast!

[SilentFeathers]

Some politicians are now saying all these drones over Jersey etc., are coming from an Iranian mother ship out in the Atlantic????????? HUH???????

This whole Syria thing is looking more and more like a precursor to a full blown attack on Iran (coming soon).

They may do a false flag drone attack event in Jersey or NYC and blame Iran to gain support for an all out attack on Iran.

Regardless, something VERY weird is going on and it looks like the deep state and globalists are going to go scorched earth and burn it all down before Trump gets into office.

[shaberon]

Posted by Rizotto (here)
That's very concerning, Shaberon, from what we already know of the rapacity of the USA deep state, most people won't be surprised if they're still aiming at destabilizing the region even more with their select terrorists: HTS, Al qaeda, or ISIL they're all useful extremists.

Since the collapse of Syria, I was rather surprised that little has been said online about Iraq (that I’m aware of). Isn’t Iraq part of the resistance, i.e. doesn't Iraq have some well-equipped militias that are opposing the USA occupation? Below is the first interview that I know of where Iraq is mentioned, and it’s alarming.

The complicating factor is double-agentry.

In other words, those groups might take western money and support, appear to be useful idiots, and then turn coat. That is what most of the Africans have done. It's a very effective method although it looks suspicious.

And from the outside, we can see, well, the groups around Al Tanf are probably on a tighter leash than an Idlib cash drop might buy. So, world governments hang around saying "what will HTS do", and, if they actually change terroristic policies, they're no longer "terrorists".


In Iraq, we see a shift towards sanity, which I call exiting the Abrahamic fold.

That is, among the Kurds, anyway. And what this means is they say Islam has held them "backwards", and they have opened Zoroastrian revival centers around Sulaimani. It is to an extent, "non-traditional", it is not a copy of Parsi Zoroastrianism, which is a relic of the Sassanian Empire, which has almost nothing in common with original Zoroastrianism.

Now, there is a chance it might just becomes "new nationalism", as we see in India, people like me around Maharashtra have adopted a "modernized" Buddhism, which unfortunately carries a doctrine of revenge against Hindus. These Iraqis might continue to deform the mind like that, or, they may commit a very interesting revival of something that is far more spiritual with no need for Bibles or Qurans.


It is somewhat authentic, certainly they practiced it in the past, as shown by a metal miniature Aramaic script Avesta.

It has to deal with military circumstances, but will it cause them unnecessarily?





Asrawan Qadrok, a Zoroastrian leader & veteran Peshmerga visited the Peshmerga in frontline



Their population is still a 90% Sunni majority, and, I scanned some posts and found a fair amount of arrogance spilling forth from this, a safety-in-numbers or insult the "strange people" attitude is rather common.

This is significant, because, current Parsi Zoroastrinism is in a "flat" condition, it lacks exegesis and cannot really respond to legitimate theological questions, and therefor cannot quite justify its progress to outsiders. Again, I would say it is mainly because they are buried in the sludge of Pahlavi commentaries, detached from the original form. If these Iraqis are really clever, if they start asking the right questions, they will, indeed, restore something that was once widespread until these "reforms" in the ca. 200s that are like a rival of Catholicism (which was the intent).

If we as a collestive species could un-dig our way out of what has been given to us as a basically Roman and Sassanian knowledge base, that would be amazing.

Otherwise, Iraq is not much different from Syria, in terms of being factionalized, but maybe not quite on such a "micro" level. They are more capable of regional "blocs" or "confederations" or at least a type of status quo among neighbors. But it is still kind of an "experimental partition" between Turkey and Iran. In potential, yes, it would be fertile ground for militias, but as of yet this amounts to little more than a few long-range projectiles. Without very good air defenses, then, if they were somehow to pull something big on Israel, it would go like Lebanon. It's just an equation, we know that Israeli "self-defense" consists of airborne genocide against unarmed population centers, just like Condor Legion.

Remember how much trouble it was to get to the Nuremberg trials? It is like refusing to accept we are looking at page one of this process.

[161803398]

DId any of the analysts say this: That the US, iran,Turkey, Syria, Russia, Israel, the rebels, Hamas, etc all came to an agreement about Syria. Which is why it happened the way it did. I hear that is the word in Canada.

[shaberon]

Today is a bit more clear and it is not really all that surprising.

There was an attempt of a handoff that did not prevail:

Before dissolving with the fall of the regime of Bashar al-Assad, the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) handed over all of its territories in Deir Ezzor to the SDF, which is backed by the United States. The SDF however failed to secure support from Washington to maintain control over these areas and a defection within its Deir Ezzor Military Council helped create enough pressure on the group to withdrew as the MOD advanced.

Along with Deir Ezzor city, the SDF lost several towns in the northern countryside and all the areas formally held by the SAA in the southern countryside down to the al-Qa’im crossing on the border with Iraq. The MOD is now in control of most of the western bank of the Euphrates River.

The push in Deir Ezzor was a major win for the MOD, especially that it came with minimum cost. However, tensions with the SDF and the U.S.-led coalition, will likely grow.

The SDF is not the Peshmerga I am honoring, but, a modern security force generally considered backed by Anglo-Zion. It ostensibly appears to hold about a third of the eastern Syrian desert and northern portion of the Iraqi border. In actuality it is in competition with the Kurdish YPG who are allied to the Assyrians, which is closer to the tribal manner in which the region normally operates.


So the Kurds are nominally resistant to HTS, which they have not defeated anywhere, and, they are already in conflict with the Turkish agglomeration.

This is the third epic battle at the same dam since 2016.

HTS, in its turn, is not facing any great resistance, but an Israeli occupation in this re-lensing:

Tensions continue to build up all over Syria following the surprising fall of the Assad regime, due to different internal and external factors.

As of December 10, intense battles were ongoing between the Turkish-backed Syrian National Army (SNA) and the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) in the northern and eastern Aleppo countryside. With direct support from the Turkish military, the SNA captured the key city of Manbij, one of the largest urban centers in the area.

The SNA is apparently planning to advance into SDF-held areas on the eastern bank of the Euphrates River. Turkish strikes have been already reported on the town of Kobani, a stronghold of the SDF, and its surroundings.

The SDF also reported clashes with the SNA on the Tishrin Dam, with multiple waves of attacks being repelled by Kurdish fighters.

Meanwhile in eastern Syria, Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham (HTS), the de-facto ruler of Syria, continues to advance. The group has reportedly captured the town of Kabajib in the western Deir Ezzor countryside, some 40 kilometers to the west of the city center.

Tensions were also reported between HTS and SDF near the al-Qa’im crossing on the border with Iraq in the southern Deir Ezzor countryside, with reports of the United States, the main backer of the Kurdish-led group, threatening HTS.

In southern Syria, the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) continues to expand its control. Reuters reported that Israeli troops reached the town of Qatana, some ten kilometers away from the buffer zone, and advanced as close as 25 kilometers to the southwestern outskirts of the capital, Damascus.


As for the coast, HTS and its allies continue to solidify their new control over the governorates of Lattakia and Tartus, with no serious incidents being reported.


The group’s deployment didn’t appear to affect the operations of the Russian bases in Tartus port and Hmeimim Airport in Lattakia. Russian flights over ISIS-held pockets in the central Syrian desert were reported. However, it is still unclear if Russia is planning to keep both bases.

Meanwhile in Damascus, HTS began to take action to secure the political transition after the collapse of the old Syrian regime.

Mohammed al-Bashir, who led HTS’ salvation government in Idlib, announced that he has been appointed the caretaker prime minister of the transitional Syrian government until March 1 of next year. It is still unclear if the group is planning to share power with other opposition groups after this period.

Overall, Syria is still far from being stable. The future of the country remains unclear, especially with HTS status as a terrorist group. So far, the group has proven to be pragmatic. However, it is unclear if it will be able to control the situation in the country, or if it is planning to continue its translation towards modern governance.

Idlib took over Damascus, and, until further notice, appears to control about 2/3 of what's left of the country.