Liberation Day: US Tariffs on Everyone

[bojancan]

Here I am adding yesterday Alexander Dugin words...

"A restructuring of the entire world has begun...only great powers...will be able to preserve their sovereignty...small states face the grim prospect of being torn apart under the pressure of these great powers...now becoming the sole actors in global politics....

USA is almost exclusively responsible for this "restructuring".. but US's world conquest scheme went full bore after the close of WWII. Right now, we're watching US's expanded bloodbath, in advance of its long-dreamed of nuclear holocaust, unfold before our eyes. Tariffs as the lame cover for throwing the first bomb."

So true!

[White Cedar]

Like, for real i don't believe any country in the world is independent and are enemies, this may look like the old conspiracy mindset, but i think the truth is that US, China, Russia, and all else are in the hands of the one single group for like centuries, among with the Alien control presence, and they just play games and chose the theater game of actors pretending that this country is enemy of this one and so on, i think this is the truth all time, they are players of the same hands, and that's how the push agendas to justify they deed's, all part of the same secret society BS, so i don't believe in any real fight between China x US x Russia X Venezuela x Taiwan x Arab countries at all.

I think it's all surface level fake game play.

[norman]

I'm not sure this isn't a spoof/disinfo but it's an interesting listen whatever it is.

It claims to be Xi's "secret" plan to counter Trump and the USA. All out total war, with multiple strands of strategy. The noises coming out of Canada lately seem to give away the age of this plan so even if it's the real thing, I don't think it was all dreamed up in the last week or two since Trump launched his tariffs.

Well, we already know that China has been at war with America for quite some time. The 2020 election flip wasn't even the beginning of it. It really goes back to the 1950s and a hundred year plan.


CCP’s master plan to counter Trump causes panic among Chinese officials

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Dz06fig9Q-I

[T Smith]

Posted by rgray222 (here)
I feel we should make every effort to have a good relationship with China instead of playing brinkmanship.

And this is the part that remains to be seen. The Trump Administration needs to bring China to the table while providing some opportunity for them to save face and not appear submissive or bullied. That is the biggest challenge. IMO. To the degree Trump et. al are successful at that, we are either living through in real time the Art of the Deal or the Art of Hubris, (which I don't believe has been written yet). I honestly don't know which way this is going to go.

What concerns me most is how volatile the situation is and how much influence all the detractors of what Trump is trying to pull off have on the operation. A good swath of the population--and plenty of power brokers with influence to move markets and/or who are heavily invested in the NWO--want to see this blow up in Trump's face. They are doing everything in their power to see to it, even if it means wiping out their life savings and assuming roles of arsonist by setting the world economy ablaze (TDS never ceases to amaze me). If Trump sticks to his guns and doesn't succeed at getting a strong China to the table, sabateurs may just have their long awaited due to bring Trump down (where before they failed miserably with everything else they threw at him, e.g., the Steel Dossier, the impeachments, the 24/7 hit-piece narratives, the constant negative media propaganda, and even bullets and assassins, among other things...) A deep stock market crash and prolonged economic uncertainty will rattle even the most staunch supporters. It may just turn the table and give China the cards to bring the US to the table.

The United States main adversary isn't China or any of its other unfair trading partners. It is those ready to exploit the chaos to bring down Trump.

[onevoice]

Posted by T Smith (here)

Posted by rgray222 (here)
I feel we should make every effort to have a good relationship with China instead of playing brinkmanship.

And this is the part that remains to be seen. The Trump Administration needs to bring China to the table while providing some opportunity for them to save face and not appear submissive or bullied. That is the biggest challenge. IMO. To the degree Trump et. al are successful at that, we are either living through in real time the Art of the Deal or the Art of Hubris, (which I don't believe has been written yet). I honestly don't know which way this is going to go.

What concerns me most is how volatile the situation is and how much influence all the detractors of what Trump is trying to pull off have on the operation. A good swath of the population--and plenty of power brokers with influence to move markets and/or who are heavily invested in the NWO--want to see this blow up in Trump's face. They are doing everything in their power to see to it, even if it means wiping out their life savings and assuming roles of arsonist by setting the world economy ablaze (TDS never ceases to amaze me). If Trump sticks to his guns and doesn't succeed at getting a strong China to the table, sabateurs may just have their long awaited due to bring Trump down (where before they failed miserably with everything else they threw at him, e.g., the Steel Dossier, the impeachments, the 24/7 hit-piece narratives, the constant negative media propaganda, and even bullets and assassins, among other things...) A deep stock market crash and prolonged economic uncertainty will rattle even the most staunch supporters. It may just turn the table and give China the cards to bring the US to the table.

The United States main adversary isn't China or any of its other unfair trading partners. It is those ready to exploit the chaos to bring down Trump.

I agree with you 100% with all you said here. We're at a major inflection point in our history. I hope that more Americans will truly realize what is really happening, instead of getting caught up with the MSM. Our real liberty is at stake here. Ever since the JFK assassination, our freedom has been eroded away by our main adversary. Our younger generation is clueless for the most part about how our freedom has been slowly taken away from us. My own niece and her BF is classic examples of the clueless. Her BF voted for Harris just because he heard and read about how awful Donald Trump is.

I would say the prominent public faces of our main adversary are: George Soros, Mark Zuckerberg, Peter Thiel, Larry Fink, and Bill Gates. Of course these are the front men that we can see. Those that wield the true power to erode our freedom will always remain behind the scenes of public view.

Perhaps because our basic freedom is at stake here, Trump called his strategy the "Liberation Day."

[bojancan]

While the Trump Administration is escalating tensions with Beijing through a soaring trade war, Chinese President Xi Jinping is on a tour of Southeast Asia, where he’s promoting free trade, and presenting China as a source of “stability and certainty,” at a time when the U.S. is the opposite.

Journalist and Geopolitical Analyst Danny Haiphong noted that the U.S. is actively engaged in a three-front proxy war against China, Russia and Iran, and that while Washington is trying to preserve U.S. hegemony, it’s also worried about other nations choosing to work with China and furthering the rise of the multipolar world.


China Promotes FREE TRADE as Trump Pursues 3-Front WAR for US Hegemony | Danny Haiphong

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=0iAPumddLGY

[onawah]

Lei is a genuine source, as far as I know. ThePythonicCow thinks so too.
There are countless sources of "news" (CCP propaganda) now, and it takes a lot of focus to discern the truth of what's really going on in China.
From what I can tell, the truth is just unbelievable for most people, as reality there has become so incredibly dystopian.
(Including some gullible Avalonians (or perhaps they are Avalonians who are actually trolls or shills...)

Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)

Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
it's a little hard to explain how come [AGI] hadn't been developed in China by 2029

I follow the Youtube channel Lei's Real Talk. She's a Chinese ex-pat living in the U.S. who follows Chinese politics and related economic and government issues closely.

At the same time I posted the above, Lei (pronounced as in English "Lay") was posting what might be her best analysis yet of what's going on in China.

My summary: The Chinese military is taking down CCP General Chairman Xi Jinping. But Xi's spy network is too strong, so the military can't get directly at Xi. There are spies everywhere and any such plans get reported to Xi and those trying such are purged.

So the Chinese military is pursuing Xi's own agenda of taking over Taiwan, with even more provocations, with the intention of taking down Xi in the increasing tensions and turmoil.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=z9LUAuLc_hU

Posted by norman (here)
I'm not sure this isn't a spoof/disinfo but it's an interesting listen whatever it is.

It claims to be Xi's "secret" plan to counter Trump and the USA. All out total war, with multiple strands of strategy. The noises coming out of Canada lately seem to give away the age of this plan so even if it's the real thing, I don't think it was all dreamed up in the last week or two since Trump launched his tariffs.

Well, we already know that China has been at war with America for quite some time. The 2020 election flip wasn't even the beginning of it. It really goes back to the 1950s and a hundred year plan.


CCP’s master plan to counter Trump causes panic among Chinese officials

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Dz06fig9Q-I

[norman]

Posted by onawah (here)
Lei is a genuine source, as far as I know. ThePythonicCow thinks so too.
There are countless sources of "news" (CCP propaganda) now, and it takes a lot of focus to discern the truth of what's really going on in China.
From what I can tell, the truth is just unbelievable for most people, as reality there has become so incredibly dystopian.
(Including some gullible Avalonians (or perhaps they are Avalonians who are actually trolls or shills...)

I agree about Lei, I believe she's genuine and trying to do her best but disagree about what I think you mean about Chinese propaganda. China is part of a global operation, and as such is multifunctional, it even has an acting part in the 3rd generation warfare play the globalists are putting on for us to fascinate us all the way to our defeat and their victorious goal.


I've just spent too many hours creating this 1 hour 20 minute (cd length) audio file from a 3+ hours Tore Maras podcast. I hope people will listen to it.

mp3 - 1 hour 20 minutes
Tore Maras - The China-Taiwan-Evergreen PR 'show for the world' deception
https://app.box.com/s/sekb0pixpbdahaj3wy9m2w70nnx6iw0o

At 16 minutes into this Tore says "a real war between China and Taiwan would cripple both of them, they're not going to have one, it's a show".

She also says that Taiwan is to China what Puerto Rico is to the US, actually more integrated into China policy and planning than Puerto Rico is to the US.

The unity between China and Taiwan is through the commercial/corporate structure that is also the method of integrating the entire world into a single digital hub. Power players all around the corporate world are involved in the same unity project. Our tendency to mind map current affairs using national flags is a naivety we cling to at great peril of being used as the digital army assets to complete the global digital unity and the power that goes with it.

Tore describes aspects of the 'shipping' company known as Evergreen. It's a whole lot more than a shipping company. It's effectively one of the robots assembling the final digital hub.

[onawah]

I agree that the CCP's China is part of a global operation, and I spent nearly 5 years keeping a very close eye about how that was materializing, which I recorded from 2020 until very recently on the 59 page "Turmoil in China" thread: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...rmoil+in+china
But recently I grew weary of posting there because there has been so little general, cumulative interest in monitoring China (whereas such a lot of obvious (to me, at least) propaganda and disinfo has been posted even here on the forum lately.)
I think it has been a very dangerous mistake to ignore the source of so much of the world's darkness for so long, as if all the darkness being generated there was somehow staying contained within China's own borders.
But I think it has come to the point now where China under the CCP has become so self-destructive that it is imploding and in the long run, no amount of propaganda will be able to hide the shocking reality.

Posted by norman (here)

Posted by onawah (here)
Lei is a genuine source, as far as I know. ThePythonicCow thinks so too.
There are countless sources of "news" (CCP propaganda) now, and it takes a lot of focus to discern the truth of what's really going on in China.
From what I can tell, the truth is just unbelievable for most people, as reality there has become so incredibly dystopian.
(Including some gullible Avalonians (or perhaps they are Avalonians who are actually trolls or shills...)

I agree about Lei, I believe she's genuine and trying to do her best but disagree about what I think you mean about Chinese propaganda. and as such is multifunctional, it even has an acting part in the 3rd generation warfare play the globalists are putting on for us to fascinate us all the way to our defeat and their victorious goal.

[norman]

Posted by onawah (here)
But I think it has come to the point now where China under the CCP has become so self-destructive that it is imploding and in the long run, no amount of propaganda will be able to hide the shocking reality.

The CCP has delivered all it could deliver. It operates on the basis of a nation state. Unhindered, the world is on the brink of moving into a technical network control system.

If the globalists can lock in that global network single state, the nations, all of them including political nation state China can fall by the wayside. There will be no difference to living in an ex democratic European country and living in an ex communist country once that global system is up and running.

By then, the CCP and it's politburo will be as redundant as a polling booth and fake elected representatives were in England.

[edina]

Posted by norman (here)

Posted by onawah (here)
Lei is a genuine source, as far as I know. ThePythonicCow thinks so too.
There are countless sources of "news" (CCP propaganda) now, and it takes a lot of focus to discern the truth of what's really going on in China.
From what I can tell, the truth is just unbelievable for most people, as reality there has become so incredibly dystopian.
(Including some gullible Avalonians (or perhaps they are Avalonians who are actually trolls or shills...)

I agree about Lei, I believe she's genuine and trying to do her best but disagree about what I think you mean about Chinese propaganda. China is part of a global operation, and as such is multifunctional, it even has an acting part in the 3rd generation warfare play the globalists are putting on for us to fascinate us all the way to our defeat and their victorious goal.


I've just spent too many hours creating this 1 hour 20 minute (cd length) audio file from a 3+ hours Tore Maras podcast. I hope people will listen to it.

mp3 - 1 hour 20 minutes
Tore Maras - The China-Taiwan-Evergreen PR 'show for the world' deception
https://app.box.com/s/sekb0pixpbdahaj3wy9m2w70nnx6iw0o

At 16 minutes into this Tore says "a real war between China and Taiwan would cripple both of them, they're not going to have one, it's a show".

She also says that Taiwan is to China what Puerto Rico is to the US, actually more integrated into China policy and planning than Puerto Rico is to the US.

The unity between China and Taiwan is through the commercial/corporate structure that is also the method of integrating the entire world into a single digital hub. Power players all around the corporate world are involved in the same unity project. Our tendency to mind map current affairs using national flags is a naivety we cling to at great peril of being used as the digital army assets to complete the global digital unity and the power that goes with it.

Tore describes aspects of the 'shipping' company known as Evergreen. It's a whole lot more than a shipping company. It's effectively one of the robots assembling the final digital hub.

One, Tore is a good writer. When she read the preface to her third book in the Digital Domain series, I kept thinking and felt, this is almost poetic, the way she uses the language in that preface. It was lyrically beautiful.

Two, what she shares about the relationship between Taiwan and China has made me rethink everything I thought about the situation in Taiwan. Recently, as I read an article posted in ZeroHedge, Extraordinary US-China Cyber Meeting Revealed which is a a reprint of an Epoch Times article, when the reporter quoted a concern about Taiwan in the way the narrative is typically discussed and accepted as true, I thought about what Tore shared.

Tore's research changes the meaning of a whole slew of actions and events.

People continue to underestimate China. It's been an "empire" for a very long time, and as such has excelled in using deception to gain control of surrounding areas.

In the Q material there were many posts that kept pointing toward Evergreen. As Tore shares more about Evergreen those Q-posts make more and more sense.

BTW, love your audio mix norm, thanks for sharing it here.

[edina]

Posted by onawah (here)
I agree that the CCP's China is part of a global operation, and I spent nearly 5 years keeping a very close eye about how that was materializing, which I recorded from 2020 until very recently on the 59 page "Turmoil in China" thread: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...rmoil+in+china
But recently I grew weary of posting there because there has been so little general, cumulative interest in monitoring China (whereas such a lot of obvious (to me, at least) propaganda and disinfo has been posted even here on the forum lately.
I think it has been a very dangerous mistake to ignore the source of so much of the world's darkness for so long, as if all the darkness being generated there was somehow staying contained within China's own borders.
But I think it has come to the point now where China under the CCP has become so self-destructive that it is imploding and in the long run, no amount of propaganda will be able to hide the shocking reality.

Posted by norman (here)

Posted by onawah (here)
Lei is a genuine source, as far as I know. ThePythonicCow thinks so too.
There are countless sources of "news" (CCP propaganda) now, and it takes a lot of focus to discern the truth of what's really going on in China.
From what I can tell, the truth is just unbelievable for most people, as reality there has become so incredibly dystopian.
(Including some gullible Avalonians (or perhaps they are Avalonians who are actually trolls or shills...)

I agree about Lei, I believe she's genuine and trying to do her best but disagree about what I think you mean about Chinese propaganda. and as such is multifunctional, it even has an acting part in the 3rd generation warfare play the globalists are putting on for us to fascinate us all the way to our defeat and their victorious goal.

I can relate to and understand your discouragement about posting in the China thread. The general interest may be there, but it may not be so apparent. Thank you for what you've done over the years in trying to help people stay informed on the China issue and many other issues, as well.

What you say about the CCP is something I've been hearing for a while too. This is happening at every level, I think, in every nation and also within the context of the global arena. Institutional systems oscillating as they are overwhelmed.

My understanding is there is tension between CCP and PLA. And in some places, a welling up of public frustration among the people that is very close to bursting. It's like everyone, everywhere is trying to climb a mountain as the talus rock is slipping out from under their feet, trying hard to not be overwhelmed with events.

No one is immune to this.

[onawah]

There are several factors which can change things radically in China and very soon, the first being the possible failure of the 3 Gorges Dam which could quickly bring about the fall of the CCP.
(Taiwan probably has the means to cause that if provoked enough, which the CCP surely knows, though that hasn't stopped their years of saber rattling.)
The mood of the Chinese people has grown increasingly grim, amply demonstrated by their numerous daily attacks on the very factories and other businesses that provide them with jobs (which these days are very often non-paying jobs), and their homicidal and suicidal attacks on each other, all of which surely have the CCP very worried.
See 23 minutes into this video:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=k96jVIjpWZk

And "The Bollard Report" 20 minutes into this video

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=DCZOG4df_LQ

[shaberon]

Taking in a few snippets from Kitco, this is the truest part:

Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia President Patrick Harker said on Tuesday the true level of poverty in the United States might be understated, in comments that did not address the monetary policy and economic outlook.

“The way we have historically measured economic stability of low-income households may no longer work,” Harker said in an essay on economic mobility issues. He said a family earning twice the federal poverty line metric may still face big economic challenges.

Except it never worked. It's a college-degreed system of suppression. Right now, it combines with IMF reducing growth expectations for...the world. Meanwhile:

Along with weak growth forecasts, the IMF also revised its U.S. inflation outlook to 3%, up 1 percentage point from the initial projection in January.

Private investment does not want Treasuries, though governments might:

For the third time in as many weeks, gold is experiencing another major rally as investors flee into gold, while demand for other traditional safe-haven assets, including the US dollar and Treasuries, weakens.

The two top owners of U.S. Treasuries - Japan and China - increased their U.S. debt holdings in February, when they braced for U.S. President Donald Trump's erratic trade policies.

Foreign holdings of U.S. Treasuries rose 3.4% to $8.817 trillion in February, data from the Treasury Department showed.

even though they are not getting more appealing:

The yield on benchmark U.S. 10-year notes fell 2.8 basis points to 4.377%, from 4.405% late on Monday.

The stock market may have some rallies, which does nothing for the common person.


Anyone want to talk soybean oil? I go through gallons of it all the time. If China turns off its imports, then, the prices will be raised to us, and you will be out of cheap food. If we don't flog and subsidize this industry, you can't afford to eat. I don't know how many millions of acres are dedicated to the stuff, not too far from here, but you have it because it is cheaper than better oils to begin with.

This is pretty close to the engineering of the "Great Depression" about a hundred years ago, which ultimately benefits the Big Fish, while you-know-what happens to the rest of us.

We don't play numbers games. We live on real stuff. Gold, being the related store of value, is going into the hands of wealth management funds; people are shucking it like dirty diapers.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I am adverse to Fascism.

[bojancan]

In my opinion... the truth it is.. the rest of the world.. wants to deal with China and not the US.... so much whining isn't it?????


Brian Tyler Cohen
4.34M subscribers

WHOA: Trump concedes defeat to China

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=8teQGJzZ_xg

[AuCo]

It is one thing to crap all over your own outhouse. But to litter the neighborhood with your soiled toiletries is imo a public hazard. Just saying 🙂

[shaberon]

Posted by onevoice (here)
Our real liberty is at stake here. Ever since the JFK assassination, our freedom has been eroded away by our main adversary. Our younger generation is clueless for the most part about how our freedom has been slowly taken away from us.

Ever since the ratification of the Constitution.

Again, just referring to Wall Street as that adversary. It's basically a Zionist cult from the Ivy League. That it is in such full force now is an obvious outcome. Terribly unfortunate.

[jaybee]

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Latest straight talking, no nonsense report from RJ Talks....

start - major trade deal with India imminent...after tariff negotiations ....

4.00 - Democrats continue to heavily support MS - 13 gang member + illegal immigrant Kilmar Abrego Garcia deported by Trump -

10:40 - courts dropping charges against those accused of crimes + vandalism against the Tesla company and Tesla cars - including the employee of Tim Walz Democrat Governor of Minnesota....

12:00 - Trump considering stipend for mothers to increase birth rate...

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Trump Administration Says MAJOR India Trade Deal INCOMING! (14:22)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=fMmcl7ER0Iw

[bojancan]

In my humble opinion... again... missing opportunity for trump... very informative talking... and very true...

Pepe Escobar : The Shanghai Spirit - China Will Take No Bullying

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_1EtbtbK-Sw

[Rizotto]

Posted by bojancan (here)
In my humble opinion... again... missing opportunity for trump... very informative talking... and very true...

Pepe Escobar : The Shanghai Spirit - China Will Take No Bullying

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_1EtbtbK-Sw

Must watch! The Chinese businessman from 15:00 to 17:00 in the above video says the truth: "you don't need tariffs, you need a revolution", pointing out the reality that for the past several decades USA oligarchs have only sought to enrich themselves with exploiting cheap Chinese labour and waging proxy wars, while the USA middle class was impoverished and domestic infrastructure was neglected. Meanwhile, China build up their country with the increased trade.