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    We saw an inadequate river of gold to New York, which was mainly for wealth management funds, but they are not really the customer:

    Quote Gold prices could reach $6,000 an ounce by the end of President Donald Trump’s term, according to Frank Holmes, CEO of U.S. Global Investors and Executive Chairman of Hive Digital Technologies. Holmes told Kitco News that the rally is being driven by a structural reset of the global financial system, de-dollarization, and intensified sovereign gold accumulation, particularly by China.

    “I think the goal should be going to $6,000 over the term of President Trump,” Holmes said. “If the tariffs go up 25%, then the dollar has to go down 25%.”

    The People’s Bank of China (PBoC) has emerged as the largest sovereign gold buyer for the fifth consecutive month. In the first quarter of 2025 alone, China added more than 27 tonnes to its reserves, bringing its official holdings to over 2,300 tonnes – the highest in the country’s modern history. Unofficial estimates suggest the true figure may be much higher when accounting for state-linked entities like SAFE and commercial bank holdings.

    Comparatively, this is the funds:

    Quote “There’s huge upside in the gold stocks,” he said. “They went down to 1% [of ETF portfolios]. Now it’s climbing its way back, pushing to 2%.”


    What we are watching is called the death of cash:

    Quote Since 2007, the major world currencies featured in this article have lost approximately 80% of their purchasing power when measured against gold. On the low end, the Swiss franc has declined by about 70%, while the British pound has suffered the most, with an 87% loss.

    For over 6,000 years, gold has served humanity as the premier form of money and store of value. While it temporarily fell out of favor starting in the 1970s, it’s now making a powerful comeback as the world begins to recognize the deep flaws in our fiat money and monetary system—flaws that have led to rampant inflation and terrifying financial instability. That’s why people around the globe are turning back to gold in increasing numbers, helping drive its price to nearly double over the past five years. And in my view, this move is still in its early stages.

    Once the world abandoned the gold standard—that is, the practice of backing currency with gold—governments and central banks gained the power to expand the money supply without restraint. And that’s exactly what they did. The result? A relentless rise in the cost of living.


    That article has a lot of grim data, but has not tracked gold relative to oil.

    Its erstwhile even-ness is churned from the 70s divestment from gold:







    We can only watch what happens to that, during loss of interest in the U. S.:


    Quote “I would be much more scared of U.S. equities than gold,” he said. “It's undeniable that U.S. equities are very expensive.”

    McIntyre noted that he expects equity markets to continue to struggle as inflation remains stubbornly high, forcing the Federal Reserve to maintain a neutral monetary policy. He added that it's only a matter of time before companies have to adjust their forward earnings guidance to reflect the higher interest rate environment.

    McIntyre said that he expects gold prices to remain well supported through 2025 as investors face more than just a potential recession that weighs on equity markets.

    He added that the problems brewing in global financial markets have risen to the sovereign level.

    “Corporate issues like we've been solving for, basically, the last generation, are pretty straightforward,” he said. “However, solving various sovereign issues, particularly with the United States, given that it's obviously the largest economy in the world, is just a much grander scale of risk. There's really only one solution to that risk, and that literally is physical gold.”

    He pointed out that faith in the United States was being eroded as both the U.S. dollar and Treasuries sold off.

    Although markets have since calmed down, McIntyre said that the damage is already done and it's going to take time for the U.S. to regain that lost trust.

    “I don’t think the U.S. dollar is going to lose its reserve currency status overnight. It’s not going to happen tomorrow, but it's clear that people are using it less and less,” he said. “I think we will continue to see countries hold either more of their own currencies or something that is independent, like gold.”

    McIntyre pointed out that central bank demand will continue to underpin gold prices, making it an attractive safe haven for investors, even at elevated prices.

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    https://x.com/OnuaTV/status/1917617355976261793



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    https://x.com/GoldTelegraph_/status/1912228292490588462

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    https://x.com/GhanaGOLDBOD/status/1917945854750577116



    https://x.com/GhanaGOLDBOD/status/1917658880831607189



    https://x.com/GhanaGOLDBOD/status/1917658960015786187

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    We need to do more than "balance the books". We need to handle the collapse of the current "US Dollar Reserve" based global debt-money system, and run a major house cleaning of the vast amount of fraud and evil.
    Martin "Marty" Armstrong is making the rounds of interviews on Youtube finance sites ... likely because he has a new book coming out The World According to Martin Armstrong: Conversations with the Master Forecaster.

    Marty's insights and forecasting skills are legendary.

    Here's one of his recent fine interviews:



    For an example of Marty's comments, starting about the 27:00 mark, Marty explains why the plane loads of gold are moving from the EU to NY ... war is brewing in Europe between the EU and Russia. When it breaks out, as Marty expects, the EU capital markets will get locked down at the speed of the first flying bullet. If you have capital wealth in the EU, get it out now.

    If I recall my history, this is the same thing as happened before the last two European centered world wars, of the previous century. Hence the major gold vaults beneath the Fed and JPMorgan buildings in Manhattan.

    Elsewhere in these Marty interviews, he supported getting the U.S. out of NATO ASAP, so that the "Collective Defense" terms in Article 5 of the NATO Treaty can't be easily used to drag the U.S. into another European war, by having the EU run a false flag blamed on Russia.

    As Marty describes vividly and repeatedly, across many of his interviews, the Hatfield vs McCoy blood lust between various European peoples goes back a thousand or two years (or more, if one follows Juan O Savin's readings of the Bible), and false flag operations are the usual means of triggering wars.

    Now, wandering somewhat off the above Armstrong interview to other related thoughts:

    I suspect that Trump might be "leveraging" this EU blood lust in his buildup of the US Defense industries. The EU would "love" to buy some more fancy US weapons of war (with the money the EU stole from Russia with their sanctions justified by Russia's "invasion" of the Ukraine). Trump knows a good business opportunity when he sees one.

    Maybe young American men will "luck out" and Trump will be able to make the case to the EU that "Sure, you can have our bombs, but you can't have our boys, because we need them to build the bombs." If the U.S. avoids a state of Declared War with Russia, I don't see how the soy-boy EU can hold up long against battle hardened Russians who would like to put an end to the repeated (Napoleon, Hitler, le petit Napoléon - Macron's EU nickname, ...) invasions from their west. Do Putin and Trump have a silent agreement on this outcome? I hope Putin and Trump have some top notch security, purged of traitors.

    The EU is a monetary and political union, but not a national bond market union. Their monetary system is collapsing, just as Marty warned them it would, back in the 1990's, and the EU is getting desperate. War is the usual remedy for a bond market collapse, and Russia is the arch enemy of the EU nations.

    The infamous EuroDollar market is really the creation of and use US Dollar denominated debt by western European nations. Since that debt is more valuable than what is essentially pound, lira, Deutschemark, franc, etc. denominated debt. In the bankster ruled world, currency is created by banksters lending it into existence.

    The US Dollar is not so much the petro-dollar, or previously the "gold in Fort Knox" dollar, but rather it is the "debt-dollar", the currency needed to make payments on US Dollar denominated debt. The immense amount of outstanding US Dollar denominated debt, from the EU, IMF and, of course, the US Treasury and Federal Reserve, is the biggest pillar underlying the sustained value of the US Dollar in the forex (foreign exchange, of currencies) market.

    There is a world-wide demand for Dollars, to make payments on dollar denominated debt.

    Fortunately (for those of us who are passengers on the good ship the US Dollar), it seems, as Tom Luongo has been observing, that JP Morgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon is on the US Treasury debt side of this ongoing debt war, and likely, if Marty is right, imminent hot war centered in Europe.

    (P.S. - The person interviewing Martin Armstrong above is Kerry Lutz, the co-author and compiler of the above new book and a long time colleague of Martin. He knows Martin and his work exceedingly well. You can read Kerry's Introduction to Martin's work and this book, in the "Sample" available at the above Amazon link.)
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    Quote Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
    We need to do more than "balance the books". We need to handle the collapse of the current "US Dollar Reserve" based global debt-money system, and run a major house cleaning of the vast amount of fraud and evil.
    Martin "Marty" Armstrong is making the rounds of interviews on Youtube finance sites ... likely because he has a new book coming out The World According to Martin Armstrong: Conversations with the Master Forecaster.

    Marty's insights and forecasting skills are legendary.

    Here's one of his recent fine interviews:



    For an example of Marty's comments, starting about the 27:00 mark, Marty explains why the plane loads of gold are moving from the EU to NY ... war is brewing in Europe between the EU and Russia. When it breaks out, as Marty expects, the EU capital markets will get locked down at the speed of the first flying bullet. If you have capital wealth in the EU, get it out now.

    If I recall my history, this is the same thing as happened before the last two European centered world wars, of the previous century. Hence the major gold vaults beneath the Fed and JPMorgan buildings in Manhattan.

    Elsewhere in these Marty interviews, he supported getting the U.S. out of NATO ASAP, so that the "Collective Defense" terms in Article 5 of the NATO Treaty can't be easily used to drag the U.S. into another European war, by having the EU run a false flag blamed on Russia.

    As Marty describes vividly and repeatedly, across many of his interviews, the Hatfield vs McCoy blood lust between various European peoples goes back a thousand or two years (or more, if one follows Juan O Savin's readings of the Bible), and false flag operations are the usual means of triggering wars.

    Now, wandering somewhat off the above Armstrong interview to other related thoughts:

    I suspect that Trump might be "leveraging" this EU blood lust in his buildup of the US Defense industries. The EU would "love" to buy some more fancy US weapons of war (with the money the EU stole from Russia with their sanctions justified by Russia's "invasion" of the Ukraine). Trump knows a good business opportunity when he sees one.

    Maybe young American men will "luck out" and Trump will be able to make the case to the EU that "Sure, you can have our bombs, but you can't have our boys, because we need them to build the bombs." If the U.S. avoids a state of Declared War with Russia, I don't see how the soy-boy EU can hold up long against battle hardened Russians who would like to put an end to the repeated (Napoleon, Hitler, le petit Napoléon - Macron's EU nickname, ...) invasions from their west. Do Putin and Trump have a silent agreement on this outcome? I hope Putin and Trump have some top notch security, purged of traitors.

    The EU is a monetary and political union, but not a national bond market union. Their monetary system is collapsing, just as Marty warned them it would, back in the 1990's, and the EU is getting desperate. War is the usual remedy for a bond market collapse, and Russia is the arch enemy of the EU nations.

    The infamous EuroDollar market is really the creation of and use US Dollar denominated debt by western European nations, since that debt is more valuable than what is essentially pound, lira, Deutschemark, franc, etc. denominated debt. In the bankster ruled world, currency is created by banksters lending it into existence.

    The US Dollar is not so much the petro-dollar, or previously the "gold in Fort Knox" dollar, but rather it is the "debt-dollar", the currency needed to make payments on US Dollar denominated debt. The immense amount of outstanding US Dollar denominated debt, from the EU, IMF and, of course, the US Treasury and Federal Reserve, is the biggest pillar underlying the sustained value of the US Dollar in the forex (foreign exchange, of currencies) market.

    There is a world-wide demand for Dollars, to make payments on dollar denominated debt.

    Fortunately (for those of us who are passengers on the good ship the US Dollar), it seems, as Tom Luongo has been observing, that JP Morgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon is on the US Treasury debt side of this ongoing debt war, and likely, if Marty is right, imminent hot war centered in Europe.

    (P.S. - The person interviewing Martin Armstrong above is Kerry Lutz, the co-author and compiler of the above new book and a long time colleague of Martin. He knows Martin and his work exceedingly well. You can read Kerry's Introduction to Martin's work and this book, in the "Sample" available at the above Amazon link.)
    Most interesting — THX.

    A question that may (or may not!) be related. Have we heard any more from anyone at all recently about the proposed audit of the gold in Fort Knox?
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    Have we heard any more from anyone at all recently about the proposed audit of the gold in Fort Knox?
    I have not heard any such reports.
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    The US Dollar is not so much the petro-dollar, or previously the "gold in Fort Knox" dollar, but rather it is the "debt-dollar", the currency needed to make payments on US Dollar denominated debt. The immense amount of outstanding US Dollar denominated debt, from the EU, IMF and, of course, the US Treasury and Federal Reserve, is the biggest pillar underlying the sustained value of the US Dollar in the forex (foreign exchange, of currencies) market.

    There is a world-wide demand for Dollars, to make payments on dollar denominated debt.

    That's generally given the name Uncle Scam.

    To the extent the warnings about Euro Bonds are true, the same may be said for American ones.


    I don't personally recall capital flight in terms of gold transfers before the World Wars. But I haven't asked the question. I am sure there is a form of "re-structuring" that takes place via the Big Fish of banks eating the little ones. And the inability of governments to pay what's owed to a bank predictably has violent outcomes.

    I tend to expect worse and worse consequences since all I have known of is a few extended rounds of "can kicking".


    That idea seems to be making the rounds:


    Quote Gold prices caught a new safe-haven bid in the final minutes of the trading week after rating agency Moody’s downgraded the U.S. credit rating by one notch.

    After the close on Friday, the agency lowered U.S. debt to Aa1 from Aaa, citing rising interest costs and unsustainable debt growth. At the same time, it revised its outlook on the U.S. to "stable" from "negative."

    “This one-notch downgrade on our 21-notch rating scale reflects the increase, over more than a decade, in government debt and interest payment ratios to levels that are significantly higher than those of similarly rated sovereigns,” the agency said in a statement.

    The downgrade comes as the U.S. government has implemented strict austerity measures through the Department of Government Efficiency, overseen by Tesla CEO Elon Musk. While Musk initially promised $2 trillion in cuts, the savings have been significantly lower. According to reports, less than $100 billion in verified savings has been achieved.

    Looking ahead, Moody’s said it sees little hope that government spending will materially change.

    “Successive U.S. administrations and Congress have failed to agree on measures to reverse the trend of large annual fiscal deficits and growing interest costs,” Moody’s said. “We do not believe that material multi-year reductions in mandatory spending and deficits will result from current fiscal proposals under consideration.”

    Markets had little time to react to Moody’s downgrade before the weekend; however, gold saw a solid reversal, with prices ending the week back above $3,200 an ounce.

    While gold rallied, U.S. Treasury yields ticked higher and stock index futures wavered in after-hours trading, reflecting investor uncertainty heading into the weekend.

    Moody's was the last of the major ratings agencies to keep an Aaa rating for U.S. sovereign debt; however, it had lowered its outlook in late 2023 because of the government’s growing fiscal deficit and higher interest payments.

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    To the extent the warnings about Euro Bonds are true, the same may be said for American ones.
    If you listen to Martin Amstrong, as he has been clearly stating since the late 1990's, this is not true.

    Euro Bond rates differ by EU nation issuing them, in their risk and in their interest rates. If Greece has a higher risk of default on the Euro Bonds they issue than Germany, then Greece likely has to offer higher rates, and bond investors get to trade off risk versus rates. US Bonds are the same, regardless of state within the US. When Greece nearly did default in 2010, other EU nations had to rush to rescue Greece, less a Euro Bond default of Greek bonds spread to other bonds, such as the bonds of other weaker EU nations such as Spain. That sort of contagion is not a risk for US Bonds.

    This is the primary reason that Martin Armstrong warned the EU, back in the 1990's, that their EU "euro" currency integration would eventually fail, as seems to be an increasingly risky outcome now. If you issue currency, such as the euro, without an integrated bond market backing it, then that currency will be, all else equal, essentially weaker than a currency backed by an integrated bond market from a similar sized nation, or union of nations, as in the EU case. The EU is similar in size to the US, but it's bond market is fractured and risks, as we have seen, contagious collapse, starting with the weakest fragment of the moment.

    Modern day central bank "fiat" currencies are essentially debt-money ... backed by their bond markets and created by bond issuance. Fragmented, hence weak, bond markets make for weak and sooner to fail currencies.
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    For an example of Marty's comments, starting about the 27:00 mark, Marty explains [that] ... war is brewing in Europe between the EU and Russia.
    Martin Armstrong expands on this pending threat of war, between the EU and Russia, in this article today on his ArmstrongEconomics website:

    === Begin Quote ===
    European War is Inevitable

    Russia seeks to 'remove root causes of conflict', not ceasefire -- Lavrov in Istanbul talks

    QUESTION: Well, here we are at the 15th, right on schedule. Your model turns up, and it looks like no deal. Would you care to comment?

    ANSWER: Putin said their purpose would be “to remove the root causes of the conflict and move towards creating a long-term, durable peace in a historical perspective”. Zelenskyy said he was prepared to attend, but only if Putin also showed up, because “everything in Russia depends” on the Russian leader as if that is not the case in Ukraine. Trump also was not attending.

    Zelensky is a Neo-Nazi and he takes orders from the EU and NATO. He wants every Russian dead. What would he do if Russia left the Donbas? He has outlawed them from speaking Russian, denied them any right to vote, outlawed Orthodox Christianity, and outlawed them from even celebrating Christmas. The Ukrainian people have a choice. Either to die for the Neocons, or rise up and overthrow Zelensky. Contacts in Romania realize the EU is trying to orchestrate them into war with Russia. The strategy here is to send the Eastern Europeans in to kill as many Russians as possible, and then Macron can invade Russia like Napoleon.

    Our model peaked intraday in the last quarter of 2024, with the third quarter of 2024 as the highest quarterly closing. The correction was to be into the first Quarter, and then the second quarter was a Directional Change. We will now head into the third quarter of 2025, which should reflect the failure of any peace deal because any ceasefire is only to regroup and rearm Ukraine. There is no resolution to this, and the EU will NEVER allow Ukraine to have peace.

    There was a peace deal. Putin withdrew his tanks around Kiev, and Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and instructed Zelensky not to sign any peace deal. More than one million Ukrainians are now dead. My sources in the US military confirm that all the claims that Russia has lost 1 million are fake news. This is all to push for war. Europe does NOT want peace. They are broke, and without war, the people will be storming their parliaments with pitchforks to hang these politicians on the street, for everything they were promised will vanish in a sovereign default. They NEED a distraction, and that is war with Russia, the same as Carney ran against Trump in Canada and avoided all domestic economic damage carried out by the Liberal Party.
    It is NOT a question of IF but only WHEN
    That’s our Computer – not my personal opinion.
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    To the extent the warnings about Euro Bonds are true, the same may be said for American ones.
    If you listen to Martin Amstrong, as he has been clearly stating since the late 1990's, this is not true.

    I probably put that too bluntly.

    Yes, the structures work differently. I was mainly just talking about real risk in the sense that if the American Bond system was to encounter operational obstacles, that a violent outcome would be imminent, regardless of the political widow-dressing given to it.

    The thin veneer is on:


    foreign military bases subjugating those areas to dollarship

    domestic military bases subjugating those areas to dollarship

    the simultaneous need for a cash system (government payouts) and especially gasoline to keep going, so the people do not revolt in three days


    In the past few years, one of the African countries was told they had to stay on the system because a "stable" dollar was a national security interest of the American people. I can't remember where or who said it, but I think it speaks to some element of actual risk, and the level of seriousness about it.

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    if the American Bond system was to encounter operational obstacles, that a violent outcome would be imminent, regardless of the political widow-dressing given to it.
    Big if, although bigger for the $ US Dollar bond market than for the Euro bond markets (plural, each EU nation has its own bond market), as Martin Armstrong explains, and yes, collapse of a nation's central bank's bonds dramatically raises the risk of war, the true cause of which will be obfuscated by political window-dressing.
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    New today from Taylor Kenney. (The video title is a good summary)

    This seems to be supported by Chris Martenson, who in his own financial update yesterday reported that he's getting 'that 2008 feeling again'. The common theme that they both stress is that when trust in a hugely complex global system starts to fail, then the whole system will start to freeze and break.

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    Quote Posted by shaberon (here)
    if the American Bond system was to encounter operational obstacles, that a violent outcome would be imminent, regardless of the political widow-dressing given to it.
    Big if, although bigger for the $ US Dollar bond market than for the Euro bond markets (plural, each EU nation has its own bond market), as Martin Armstrong explains, and yes, collapse of a nation's central bank's bonds dramatically raises the risk of war, the true cause of which will be obfuscated by political window-dressing.


    Yes, and it is of course primarily the European scenario that we draw most of the references from.

    The headlines seem to be saying gold is the "new international standard" while there is notable de-dollarization. Here is an interview verbatim on the current round of kick the can:


    Quote While the attention of the world is fixed on the Israel-Iran conflict, geopolitics has once again proven a fickle driver for gold prices, with the yellow metal sliding back below $3,400 per ounce on Monday.

    According to Adrian Day of Adrian Day Asset Management, the critical countdown for precious metals markets isn’t for a nuclear deal in the Middle East, but for a debt deal in the United States.

    “The U.S. Treasury is facing a funding crisis, because the debt ceiling hasn't been raised yet, and because the Biden administration left the incoming Trump administration with literally an empty cupboard,” Day said in an interview with Kitco News. “On the Friday before Trump was sworn in, [Biden Treasury Secretary Janet] Yellen gave an interview saying that we're going to hit the debt ceiling on Tuesday. Basically, ‘Good luck, Trump.’”

    Day said that as a result, there has been no net new Treasury issuance to date in 2025.

    “The only Treasury issuances we've had have been Treasuries that are maturing, so if $100 billion matures, then they go out and issue $100 billion. But they haven't been able to do any more than that, and they're running out of tricks. They're talking about the reserve requirement for banks being reduced, but a quid pro quo is that instead of putting the money on deposit with the Fed, they'd turn around and buy Treasuries with it.”

    “Now we're not even at that point yet, because the Treasury isn't even able to issue new Treasuries.”

    Day said this situation puts the Treasury Department in a very difficult position, as they now face two challenges going forward.

    “One is, at the moment, they can't issue any,” he said. “But even when they can issue them, the question still remains: Who is going to buy them? Because official foreign buyers are not buying longer-term Treasuries at the moment – I mean anything over 10 years.”

    And the longer new Treasury issuance is delayed, the worse it will be if and when the ceiling is finally raised.

    “When they do have that capacity to issue new bonds, there's a shorter window in which to issue them, which means they'll be issuing many more over a shorter period of time rather than spreading it out over the whole year.”

    This means there won’t be enough demand to fetch higher prices, which means yields will rise further, which in turn makes the debt servicing payments even worse, in a vicious cycle.

    “The punchline is, the Fed is obviously going to go back to QE [Quantitative Easing],” Day said. “I think there's very little doubt to that.”

    Day said the roots of this crisis go back to the Obama years, when the U.S. essentially had lower bound rates of essentially zero percent.

    “The US never went to negative rates like Japan, but short-term Treasury bills were paying an eighth of a percent or something stupid,” he said. “And during that timeframe, countries like Austria, Italy, even Argentina were able to issue 100-year dollar-denominated bonds at less than 8%. Now, if Argentina – which has defaulted, what, five, six times in the last hundred years? – if Argentina can issue 100-year bonds at less than 8%, what would the U.S. have had to pay? 3.5% or 4%? Wouldn't that look pretty darn good today, if we'd issued 100-year bonds at 4%?”

    “I think it was criminally irresponsible not to do that,” Day added. “But of course, as always, politicians are short-term oriented, so they preferred to issue the short end of 0.25% or 0.50% than come up with 100-year bonds at 4%.”

    “That’s why we are where we are today. We don't have that option anymore.”

    Day said that while Trump might get the blame for the debt crisis, this one is not on him. “There's enough we can blame him for, so let's not blame him for things that aren't his fault,” he said. “This funding crisis is something that's been building for more than a decade now.”

    But with no good options left, Day said they're going to try every trick in the book.

    “Some of it will be political, like persuading in quotes JP Morgan to buy some long-term Treasuries,” he said. “This is all linked with Trump's Mar-a-Lago Accord for a global monetary reset. One of the ideas in that program is, we'll give you defense if you buy bonds, but if you don't buy our bonds, don't expect our defense.”

    “There's going to be a multi-pronged attempt, and all sorts of tricks and persuasions are going to be used to try to get people to buy bonds.”

    Day said that a whole year's world of issuance could be compressed into six months, if not less.

    “If the last administration had difficulty selling long-term bonds when they were spread out over a whole year, it's going to be extremely difficult to sell those bonds in half a year,” he said. “And that's assuming they get the debt agreement, which I think is by no means a certainty. They were talking about having it done by July 4th; that was their optimistic case. If they don't actually get it done till the end of August, which is when the crisis hits, then you’ve got September, October, November, December, four months instead of 12. That's a huge amount of bonds in a short period of time.”

    Day said that while he doesn’t see any chance that the United States actually defaults on its debt, just the threat of it would be enough to send gold prices into the stratosphere.

    And even if the debt ceiling is raised in time, he thinks gold will still rally if the Fed is again forced to act as the buyer of last resort.

    “If the U.S. were to come close to a default, as has happened a couple of times in the past, that in and of itself will be very bullish for gold,” he said. “But if the debt ceiling is raised and they start issuing 10- and 20-year bonds, and even some 30-year bonds, and the Fed turns out to be the major buyer, that is wildly bullish for gold. QE is just wildly bullish for gold because it's pumping money into the economy and setting off an inflation spiral.”

    “Let's say they do raise the debt ceiling,” Day warned. “Let's say the Treasury issues the bonds, and the auctions, let's say it all goes well… but then we find out that it's not China buying, it's not Japan buying, it's not U.S. pension funds, but the big buying is coming from the Fed. I think that's going to be very bullish.”

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    The United States just did something violent, so, as a technical note I would say the expectation of the recent posts has been fulfilled.

    I'm not yet sure I want to experience the consequences, but, will be forced to find out.

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    And yet, if you look at the gold market right now, in US funds, it's dropped over $10.00.

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    Well, if there are comets with billions of lbs of gold then WHY would the Annunaki bother coming to Earth for gold? Is ours "special"

    Perhaps this is just a way to get all the gold together so we can pay our tythe again? I believe it is due every 12,000 years or so...Fort Knox was a downpayment? Where is all the Phillipine's hidden gold carried away by alphabet agencies? It seems there is A LOT of gold that is not accounted for over the centuries.

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    Well, if there are comets with billions of lbs of gold then WHY would the Annunaki bother coming to Earth for gold? Is ours "special"

    Perhaps this is just a way to get all the gold together so we can pay our tythe again? I believe it is due every 12,000 years or so...Fort Knox was a downpayment? Where is all the Phillipine's hidden gold carried away by alphabet agencies? It seems there is A LOT of gold that is not accounted for over the centuries.
    That was my first thoughts as well. I am not certain who originally proposed that the Anunnaki were here for gold, maybe Sitchin, but it never resonated with me.

    From my research with abductees who have been abducted in past lives, the Anunnaki were mostly interested in establishing god-worshiping religions, secret societies, creating wars, chaos, etc. They did require some gold and jewels as is mentioned in the Eye of Ra, chapter two, "Akarat's Abduction", and Ra had a golden throne and wore a gold medallion but nothing like actually needing massive amounts of gold. If the asteroid story is true, it definitely debunks the Sitchin info.

    I should also mention that the Anunnaki deceived their human contacts with many lies and their demands were psychopathic. Therefore, anything that the Anunnaki ETs said cannot be trusted as fact.
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    That was my first thoughts as well. I am not certain who originally proposed that the Anunnaki were here for gold, maybe Sitchin, but it never resonated with me.

    ...

    I should also mention that the Anunnaki deceived their human contacts with many lies and their demands were psychopathic. Therefore, anything that the Anunnaki ETs said cannot be trusted as fact.
    Perhaps the Anunnaki are here for the gold like the tax man comes for our money ... where (in my nation, the U.S.) that tax man works for the IRS/Federal Reserve corporations, which are essentially agents of the debt-money master Banksters.

    Those debt-money masters can manufacture money practically w/o limit, by fabricating debt and the money lent thereby, as counter-balancing entries in their "bible" ... the grand tables of double entry bookkeeping.

    They don't need my paltry contributions.

    But they sure do seem addicted to the control over us that such debt and taxes provide them.

    Perhaps the U.S. Dollar, as the world's primary "reserve currency" since World War II, is just the new "Gold" ... a core tool of the dark side to control humanity.

    (and in which case, is going from a US Treasury debt foundation for our money to a gold/silver/Bitcoin/... basis little more than getting the cop arresting me to replace the zip ties he used to cuff my wrists with old-fashioned metal cuffs?)
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