Is Ben Davidson starting to run a Doomsday cult?

[onawah]

As my late, brilliant mentor Dr. Christopher Hills once stated, however different their characteristics are, the plane of material or physical reality is as real as any of the other planes.
He also said that the first or root chakra, which is the primary level at which we experience material reality, is often weak in humankind at present.
Being less connected to Nature than preceding generations is largely responsible for that, and more recently, being under a constant barrage of debilitating frequencies from technology which renders human perceptions askew.
(The many books that Dr. Hills authored are out of print now, sadly, but his grandson is working toward making at least some of them available online soon.
Some rare copies are still featured on Good Reads, Amazon, eBay, etc.
Such as :
Supersensonics: The Spiritual Physics of All Vibrations from Zero to Infinity

Nuclear Evolution: Discovery of the Rainbow Body

The rise of the Phoenix--universal government by nature's laws

I would not be surprised if negative forces behind the scenes have been preventing Dr. Hills' books from being available for far too many years now.
Hopefully that will change soon.
His insights into the nature of this reality were invaluable.

[mountain_jim]

Just want to add (as we have discussed in past, onawah) - I have read and studied those 3 Dr C. Hills books several times over the 48 years I have owned them, never got to meet him however.

These books have an honored place in my library - did not realize they were rare nowadays.

[onawah]

Those 3 are probably my favorites books written by Dr. Hills, but for those not familiar with his work, there are many more.

Posted by mountain_jim (here)
Just want to add (as we have discussed in past, onawah) - I have read and studied those 3 Dr C. Hills books several times over the 48 years I have owned them, never got to meet him however.

These books have an honored place in my library - did not realize they were rare nowadays.

[onawah]

I just watched some of Ben's latest Q&A from 6/14/25 here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Wx6rUNyI_c
I'm not even going to embed it because I'm sad to say his behavior was childlishly hostile and belligerent, much more than I've ever seen him display before.
It appears I was wrong in thinking he was beginning to mellow out; more like he's got a lot more healing to do before even that happens.
What's going on in his personal life still does not necessarily reflect on the veracity of his science however, so at least the daily reports and hopefully the new documentary should still be worthwhile for factual information.
However, I can better understand why some may currently be wondering if he is becoming the center of a cult, because judging from the brunt of the comments on the youtube page of that last Q&A, he is getting a lot of kudos from viewers for his hostile attitude.
I hope someone in his life who is mature, sane and centered enough will show up to help him wake up and get off the downward spiral.

Posted by onawah (here)
Those 3 are probably my favorites books written by Dr. Hills, but for those not familiar with his work, there are many more.

Posted by mountain_jim (here)
Just want to add (as we have discussed in past, onawah) - I have read and studied those 3 Dr C. Hills books several times over the 48 years I have owned them, never got to meet him however.

These books have an honored place in my library - did not realize they were rare nowadays.

It would be great if Dr. Hills' books would be printed again, because books that are only appearing online will be subject to electric grid failure.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by onawah (here)
The many books that Dr. Hills authored are out of print now, sadly, but his grandson is working toward making at least some of them available online soon.

Quite a few of them can be downloaded as PDFs from https://annas-archive.org.

[onawah]

There are quite a few from the University of the Trees Press, written by members of the community that Dr. Hills founded, but only a few that Dr. Hills actually wrote himself, and many titles of his best works like Rise of the Phoenix and Supersonics aren't there, unfortunately.

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by onawah (here)
The many books that Dr. Hills authored are out of print now, sadly, but his grandson is working toward making at least some of them available online soon.

Quite a few of them can be downloaded as PDFs from https://annas-archive.org.

[Delight]

I see Suspicious Observers CULT-URE coming from INFLUENCE. It is in turn intending to influence those who attend to its message. Lots of the message is underlying. For instance I realize he suggests that we are facing catyclysm from NATURE and that we are ants, too insignificant to do anything preventing catyclysm. One will just have to react and respond and prep as best as one can, not knowing and always guessing.

Adjoining cult-ures regard the end extinction as true but through other means.
IMO the whole shebang is about death. It is the worship of death.

His is not the only death cult by far.

[Casey Claar]

I appreciate, and respect your choice to frame Ben and his work in this way. It is not the only way to frame it, but it is certainly an option. Thank you for sharing, Delight.

[onawah]

For those who are resonating most strongly at the level of the three lower chakras, the focus is survival of the physical body, herd or tribal instinct, and the intellect.
The higher levels which resonate at the levels of feeling, devotion, intuition, imagination and on are more developed.
It's not too difficult to see how people who are focusing on surviving, the "Preppers", may be coming from those three lower levels to a large degree.
For those who are resonating at higher levels, the behavior and values of those at lower levels may seem primitive.
But when the Earth's environment is so endangered and polluted that species are going extinct at a rapid pace and much of humanity is at war with itself, it is only logical that there will be people focusing on survival, and they may feel they are responsible for the continuation of the species.
At the very least, they are behaving far more responsibly than those who are destroying the planet and much of humanity along with it.
They have their place and deserve respect, not ridicule.
Their goal is to preserve Life by all means possible.
Worship of Death is the choice of Satanists and those who blindly follow in their wake.

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by onawah (here)
The many books that Dr. Hills authored are out of print now, sadly, but his grandson is working toward making at least some of them available online soon.

Quite a few of them can be downloaded as PDFs from https://annas-archive.org.

His book Christ Yoga of Peace, which is a blueprint for forming and sustaining intentional communities would be a good one to have these days...

[Johnnycomelately]

Copying Vicus’ post #242, 12th May 2025, at thread What the Dickens is REALLY going on in Antarctica?, due to it’s conspiracy angle. If I understand Vicus correctly, he says Ben may be covering for a human-caused crust flip or whole planet flip, by calling it a natural recurring event. Woo, wooo!

Posted by Vicus (here)
Why the frenzy with Antarctica now?

In my humble opinion: Apart from Piramides, Nazi/Aliens basis? or Aliens Nazis or whatever may be under the ice... one thing is clear : we will never know,why?

Because every one of the BIG powers want a piece of it...

Everybody would agree with that...BUT another theme that nobody here has mention yet

is that AFTER the Earth flip over (expected from now until 2050) Antarctica will be the

only one continent getting profit from it!

Why? because his new location will be near the Tropic!

Ice will be gone sooner or later , making the NEW promise land !

Nazis called new "lebensraum"

Check out where the "new" Antarctica will be...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=IPJy1Z9n6q4

Anyways, I checked the comments and found that I had interacted there with Ben. Vid was uploaded “1 year” ago, which means 1 - 2 years.

@johnnyliminal8032
1 year ago

If the instability is caused by way-deep mass anomalies, why do you think that the crust will slip? Shouldn’t the whole planet be affected by this rotation re-alignment phenomenon?

And, note that in the example vid from the weightless/falling demo in the ISS, the widget flips 180 degrees.


@SpaceWeatherNewsS0s
1 year ago

Like I said, I am not favoring this mechanism, its the crust that unlocks due to the micronova.


@johnnyliminal8032
1 year ago

@SpaceWeatherNewsS0s Sir, what force are you positing, that would act on the outer mass of the planet, but not on the inner. I can see by that ISS clip that I don’t really understand rotational dynamics, and I’m curious.

Big cheers to you and yours, Sir.

So, I watched the vid again (L = 5:57) to check my recollections.

In the vid, he does a fair bit of work to explain how the blyatkov (?) effect might work, yet he never answered my point about it being a 180 degree flip, whearas his is 90 and other fellow’s is 104 degree tilt.

Vid also doesn’t mention a force that would tilt the crust but not the planet, like I asked but he didn’t answer. Vid actually says nothing about any motive force that would do anything. He seems to think that the crust wants to tilt ~1/4 way around, and its wish comes true every 12k years when the Sun pops off and huge electric currents basically liquify the rock in that transition zone.

And then the thing - crust or whole planet - reverts to normal again, the reverse-flip. No time line given in this video, and I don’t recall clearly hearing one in other vids. Bill Ryan rightly stated that warm weather fossils have been found in the the most northerly lands, and iirc similarish finds have been made on Antarctica. Timing seems to favour continental drift, to me, but I’m no expert.

[onawah]

His documents answer those basic questions very well, and the new one coming out this Fall will have the most current data, and should cover whatever questions have remained unclear until recently.

Posted by Johnnycomelately (here)
Copying Vicus’ post #242, 12th May 2025, at thread What the Dickens is REALLY going on in Antarctica?, due to it’s conspiracy angle. If I understand Vicus correctly, he says Ben may be covering for a human-caused crust flip or whole planet flip, by calling it a natural recurring event. Woo, wooo!

Posted by Vicus (here)
Why the frenzy with Antarctica now?

In my humble opinion: Apart from Piramides, Nazi/Aliens basis? or Aliens Nazis or whatever may be under the ice... one thing is clear : we will never know,why?

Because every one of the BIG powers want a piece of it...

Everybody would agree with that...BUT another theme that nobody here has mention yet

is that AFTER the Earth flip over (expected from now until 2050) Antarctica will be the

only one continent getting profit from it!

Why? because his new location will be near the Tropic!

Ice will be gone sooner or later , making the NEW promise land !

Nazis called new "lebensraum"

Check out where the "new" Antarctica will be...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=IPJy1Z9n6q4

Anyways, I checked the comments and found that I had interacted there with Ben. Vid was uploaded “1 year” ago, which means 1 - 2 years.

@johnnyliminal8032
1 year ago

If the instability is caused by way-deep mass anomalies, why do you think that the crust will slip? Shouldn’t the whole planet be affected by this rotation re-alignment phenomenon?

And, note that in the example vid from the weightless/falling demo in the ISS, the widget flips 180 degrees.


@SpaceWeatherNewsS0s
1 year ago

Like I said, I am not favoring this mechanism, its the crust that unlocks due to the micronova.


@johnnyliminal8032
1 year ago

@SpaceWeatherNewsS0s Sir, what force are you positing, that would act on the outer mass of the planet, but not on the inner. I can see by that ISS clip that I don’t really understand rotational dynamics, and I’m curious.

Big cheers to you and yours, Sir.

So, I watched the vid again (L = 5:57) to check my recollections.

In the vid, he does a fair bit of work to explain how the blyatkov (?) effect might work, yet he never answered my point about it being a 180 degree flip, whearas his is 90 and other fellow’s is 104 degree tilt.

Vid also doesn’t mention a force that would tilt the crust but not the planet, like I asked but he didn’t answer. Vid actually says nothing about any motive force that would do anything. He seems to think that the crust wants to tilt ~1/4 way around, and its wish comes true every 12k years when the Sun pops off and huge electric currents basically liquify the rock in that transition zone.

And then the thing - crust or whole planet - reverts to normal again, the reverse-flip. No time line given in this video, and I don’t recall clearly hearing one in other vids. Bill Ryan rightly stated that warm weather fossils have been found in the the most northerly lands, and iirc similarish finds have been made on Antarctica. Timing seems to favour continental drift, to me, but I’m no expert.

[onawah]

Apologies. I didn't get nearly enough sleep last night. I meant to write "documentaries", not "documents", meaning the longer videos on Ben's SpaceWeatherNews channels.

Posted by onawah (here)
His documents answer those basic questions very well, and the new one coming out this Fall will have the most current data, and should cover whatever questions have remained unclear until recently.

[neutronstar]

Posted by onawah (here)
Where it seems Ben drew the line with the research from the late Doug Vogt:

From: https://dieholdfoundation.com/#

You may wonder why a science foundation whose goals are to study the causes of the ice ages and polar reversals and develop an information theory of existence would get involved in studying the Torah, Bible, Old Testament. The reasons are what the founder discovered about the Hebrew Alphabet. He also discovered that the exact number of years between geomagnetic reversals was embedded as code in the surface story of the Torah. The second discovery was that the Hebrew alphabet and the Torah are the product of a very highly advanced previous civilization that had the same information theory of existence as the one we are developing, the Theory of Multidimensional Reality. There is much more to the whole explanation, and the books and videos present the whole story
The Hebrew Alphabet is the Key

After eight years of research and testing, our founder discovered that the Hebrew alphabet is the result of 22 views of a waveform that is a modified square wave. This waveform is superimposed on a toroid shape that represents how a carbon atom modulates into this dimension. This part of our research is found in the book Creation of the Hebrew Alphabet. The Library of Congress indexed this book, Quantum Computing, and that is exactly what is described in the book. The Hebrew alphabet and the Torah are the products of a very highly advanced previous civilization that once lived on the Earth. The important part of this research is that this advanced civilization must have had the same information philosophy of existence as explained in the Theory of Multidimensional Reality, or else Mr. Vogt could not have discovered its origin. Abraham purchased the Cave of Machpelah not just as a burial site but really because of the technology found deep inside.

More here: http://thedieholdfoundation.com/index.html

Posted by neutronstar (here)
Yes, but in this case the data he is presenting is not necessarily what he believes.

A few years ago I was reading through some comments on a video that Doug Vogt put out. I can't remember which one. A person asked Doug about the differences that Ben has with what is about to happen. Doug replied by saying that Ben believes Doug's version of what will happen, but can't say that because the scientists that Ben is getting information from would stop talking to him. Doug said he understands, Ben has a family to support and this is how he makes his living.

I listen to what Ben has to say on the science side(with discernment), not the ask me anything live streams. I can't get through more than a few minutes. He has some deep emotional issues. But what gets my conspiratorial mind going is why would the scientist run if he said he agrees with Doug's version of events to come?

Doug's version comes mostly with receipts. I also believe Doug is probably closer to the truth.

I have my own thoughts on Ben but will keep them to myself because it is all speculation, but I believe there is a lot more to this story that what we are told.

I don't agree with or even really care about Doug's other videos you are referring to. I find it odd he went down that path, but that was not the reason Doug said Ben does not agree with him in public. In private Ben agrees with Doug, or at least did at the time Doug made that comment.

What I like about Doug's presentations is most of what he presents is sited in mainstream scientific journals which he provides. People can form their own opinion on the information he presents. Who's right? Maybe neither, I don't know. Ben rides the coat tales of Doug, that is how Ben found out about all this, it's from Doug's work.

Doug has stated many times in his videos that the Gov. follows him and his work, and has made contact with him. Doug is small time, he has never had many followers. The moment Ben started to get a large number of followers he moves to the most famous DUMB in the country. I find that curious.

[onawah]

As far as I am aware, Ben's community is definitely NOT deep underground, and is certainly not a military base.

Posted by neutronstar (here)

Doug has stated many times in his videos that the Gov. follows him and his work, and has made contact with him. Doug is small time, he has never had many followers. The moment Ben started to get a large number of followers he moves to the most famous DUMB in the country. I find that curious.

[neutronstar]

Posted by onawah (here)
As far as I am aware, Ben's community is definitely NOT deep underground, and is certainly not a military base.

Posted by neutronstar (here)

Doug has stated many times in his videos that the Gov. follows him and his work, and has made contact with him. Doug is small time, he has never had many followers. The moment Ben started to get a large number of followers he moves to the most famous DUMB in the country. I find that curious.

I never said anything about the people that follow him. The Government most certainly knows about him and I am always aware of the fact that they could use him to control the information release. They could bribe him with a place in the DUMB for him and his family. He has children, that is a strong incentive.

If the scale of this event is anywhere near as bad as either of them say it will be, I don't question the the level people would go to to save them or their families. I also don't question how far the Government will go to control the information around this issue.

[onawah]

I don't think you've really been following the info from Davidson or his community very closely.
For one thing, he has stated repeatedly for years now that deep underground is a terrible place to build a bolt hole, because the amount of earthquake activity is going to be increasing and when the continents move, being deep underground will probably be the worst place to be.
As much as he despises the controllers and Satanists in general (being a professed Christian) I think he would probably prefer to die than live in one of their DUMBS.

Ben has said that in his own community (not Observer Ranch, which is in the same area but not on the same property) that they do have some shelter there that is underground, but not at all deep underground.
That is basically designed to be protection from the micronova, and no doubt for when the mini Ice Age has begun, since being protected by a modest amount of earth is a good idea both when it's very hot or very cold.
The government doesn't really want the public knowing much about their DUMBS, so if they were controlling Ben, they certainly would force him to shut up about that.

The last thing they want is for people to know about what will happen when the geomagnetic excursion occurs, or how rapidly the magnetosphere is diminishing, or how the electric grid going down would cause such chaos that most of the world's population would perish.
Or how slim the chances are that anything can be done to prevent that in the amount of time remaining (or how few attempts are being made to protect the public).
But since some of the data is coming out nonetheless by credible researchers now, they are letting it begin to leak.

Why they haven't shut Ben down completely I can only guess, but I would imagine it's because he doesn't have a big enough following as yet, and it might draw more attention to him if they did.
But he's such an excellent researcher and dot connector that possibly they want to give him free rein because they are benefiting from the info he provides.

Posted by neutronstar (here)

Posted by onawah (here)
As far as I am aware, Ben's community is definitely NOT deep underground, and is certainly not a military base.

Posted by neutronstar (here)

Doug has stated many times in his videos that the Gov. follows him and his work, and has made contact with him. Doug is small time, he has never had many followers. The moment Ben started to get a large number of followers he moves to the most famous DUMB in the country. I find that curious.

I never said anything about the people that follow him. The Government most certainly knows about him and I am always aware of the fact that they could use him to control the information release. They could bribe him with a place in the DUMB for him and his family. He has children, that is a strong incentive.

If the scale of this event is anywhere near as bad as either of them say it will be, I don't question the the level people would go to to save them or their families. I also don't question how far the Government will go to control the information around this issue.

[Casey Claar]

For one thing, he has stated repeatedly for years now that deep underground is a terrible place to build a bolt hole, because the amount of earthquake activity is going to be increasing and when the continents move, being deep underground will probably be the worst place to be ..... Ben has said that in his own community (not Observer Ranch, which is in the same area but not on the same property) that they do have some shelter there that is underground, but not at all deep underground. That is basically designed to be protection from the micronova, and no doubt for when the mini Ice Age has begun, since being protected by a modest amount of earth is a good idea both when it's very hot or very cold.

For the readers:

Ben's specific advice is that 'when the sun changes colors" (ie: referring to the 3 days of darkness ) GO UNDERGROUND. And when the ground starts shaking (he estimates roughly 3 days later) COME BACK UP. What one would do at that point is anyone's guess. But the main point is to avoid being buried.

[Mike Gorman]

Ben is a genuine man of science, he is of course quite young and prone to the vanities and preening ways of the masculine culture, he says 'Denver sucks' because that city is a focal point of the Woke and the abysmal progressive culture eminating from Brussels & the EU. I had a few friction points with young Ben a couple of years ago when I challenged him on some climate points, I pointedd out the work of Tony Heller to him and also briefly discussed some of Arthur M Young's ideas, he is the only science commenatator who has deigned to discuss that material with me, so I was impressed. I am not 100% convinced of his crustal unlocking ideas, that would be an extreme outcome and yes Antarctica did used to be a tropical place, or at least a Jurassic forest it seems: I also like how Ben pushed back on 'dark matter' and some of the flimsy astrophysics of today. The universe is much older than is claimed, the human civilizations also have been around the block more times than is stated, I like Ben even if can be a bit 'salty' - if he is salty at 40 imagine how much of a curmudgeon he will be at 60, he might even reach my stage!!

[neutronstar]

Posted by onawah (here)
I don't think you've really been following the info from Davidson or his community very closely.
For one thing, he has stated repeatedly for years now that deep underground is a terrible place to build a bolt hole, because the amount of earthquake activity is going to be increasing and when the continents move, being deep underground will probably be the worst place to be.
As much as he despises the controllers and Satanists in general (being a professed Christian) I think he would probably prefer to die than live in one of their DUMBS.

Ben has said that in his own community (not Observer Ranch, which is in the same area but not on the same property) that they do have some shelter there that is underground, but not at all deep underground.
That is basically designed to be protection from the micronova, and no doubt for when the mini Ice Age has begun, since being protected by a modest amount of earth is a good idea both when it's very hot or very cold.
The government doesn't really want the public knowing much about their DUMBS, so if they were controlling Ben, they certainly would force him to shut up about that.

The last thing they want is for people to know about what will happen when the geomagnetic excursion occurs, or how rapidly the magnetosphere is diminishing, or how the electric grid going down would cause such chaos that most of the world's population would perish.
Or how slim the chances are that anything can be done to prevent that in the amount of time remaining (or how few attempts are being made to protect the public).
But since some of the data is coming out nonetheless by credible researchers now, they are letting it begin to leak.

Why they haven't shut Ben down completely I can only guess, but I would imagine it's because he doesn't have a big enough following as yet, and it might draw more attention to him if they did.
But he's such an excellent researcher and dot connector that possibly they want to give him free rein because they are benefiting from the info he provides.

Posted by neutronstar (here)

Posted by onawah (here)
As far as I am aware, Ben's community is definitely NOT deep underground, and is certainly not a military base.

Posted by neutronstar (here)

Doug has stated many times in his videos that the Gov. follows him and his work, and has made contact with him. Doug is small time, he has never had many followers. The moment Ben started to get a large number of followers he moves to the most famous DUMB in the country. I find that curious.

I never said anything about the people that follow him. The Government most certainly knows about him and I am always aware of the fact that they could use him to control the information release. They could bribe him with a place in the DUMB for him and his family. He has children, that is a strong incentive.

If the scale of this event is anywhere near as bad as either of them say it will be, I don't question the the level people would go to to save them or their families. I also don't question how far the Government will go to control the information around this issue.

The fact that he says DUMBs are not the place to be is another reason I have pause with him. You would rather be in a submarine in a hurricane than on the surface, the same thing applies for land. You just don't want to be on a fault line. That is just the kind of message the military would want to put out there to keep people from storming the DUMBs.

Not all DUMBs will be safe but when you have hundred maybe thousands all around the world, many will survive. I would rather be in a DUMB far from a fault line than on the surface. With that being said, I don't want to live through this. I'm too old. If I don't die before it happens it will be one hell of a way to go out.

[onawah]

Being far from a fault line won't matter that much when whole continents are moving and brand new faults suddenly form, which is what occurs when there is not enough magnetism to keep the continents locked in place.
That happens overnight, not over a long period of time, so it causes huge tsunamis as well.
Continents which are near the poles will suddenly be near the equator and vice versa.
Lands which were dry will suddenly be underwater, other lands will be rising.
True, some DUMBS may be safe, but it's a lot more of a gamble than being at a high elevation which will be dry and a warm climate once the Shift is over.
Something I remember now which Ben clearly said re Doug Vogt's work is that he didn't at all agree that it is possible to pinpoint exact dates of when such events would be occurring by consulting the Torah, though he was in agreement with much else that Doug proposed.

Posted by neutronstar (here)
The fact that he says DUMBs are not the place to be is another reason I have pause with him. You would rather be in a submarine in a hurricane than on the surface, the same thing applies for land. You just don't want to be on a fault line. That is just the kind of message the military would want to put out there to keep people from storming the DUMBs.

Not all DUMBs will be safe but when you have hundred maybe thousands all around the world, many will survive. I would rather be in a DUMB far from a fault line than on the surface. With that being said, I don't want to live through this. I'm too old. If I don't die before it happens it will be one hell of a way to go out.