Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

[ExomatrixTV]

• Trump Lying About Iran’s WMDs JUST LIKE George W. Bush!:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=iJ8vRa_3qIo

In this video Jimmy and Kurt Metzger criticize both past and present U.S. foreign policy, focusing on the misleading justifications for war in the Middle East. They highlight how Donald Trump, despite once campaigning as an anti-war candidate, is now echoing the same fearmongering about Iran that previous administrations used to justify military interventions.

The video includes clips of Benjamin Netanyahu and Wesley Clark outlining long-standing plans for regime change across several countries, suggesting these wars were premeditated rather than responses to real threats. Ultimately, the hosts argue that U.S. actions in the region serve Israeli and neoconservative interests, not American security or values.

[Rizotto]

Posted by Jaak (here)

Something tells me that these 'russian-speaking' Israelis might soon be going back to Russia. If Netanyahu lets them, that is. Apparently he shut down Israel's airports so nobody could escape and fly out? Those Israelis will most likely find other ways to exit.

[AutumnW]

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)

• Trump Bombs Iran! W/ Scott Ritter And Judge Napolitano:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=3P7F2YARMaY

Trump was supposed to drain the swamp not bathe in it!

Bathing in it and drinking it, watering his lawns with it and creating propaganda with it.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Tintin (here)
1) If true, we will have to wait for the result.
The Fordow facility is extremely deep, there is a good chance the bombing was not successful.
Will be very curious to see if the GBU-57s made it through ~90 meters of granite + UHP concrete.

According to one commentator I listened, who seemed quite clear in her understanding, one reason that each B2 flies with two GBU-57's is to work on deeper targets. The two GBU-57's follow each other down the same hole. The first one might be able to make a 20 foot diameter hole 200 feet deep, and the second comes in right behind it, digging another such distance, depending of course on what sort of rock or dirt it has to penetrate.

Posted by Tintin (here)
2) NOTE: Destroying Fordow with one sortie is impossible, even per U.S. assessments.
So unless the U.S. somehow flew multiple sorties without being noticed, or used a large amount of B-2s and dropped dozens of GBU-57s, Fordow is likely intact. This could just be a very big media show with no result.

I'm pretty sure that they flew three sorties ... three B2's, each targeting a different spot on Fordow thought to be more vulnerable. Given the recent work that has come public exploring the rock beneath the Giza plateau hundreds of feet deep, there's a good chance that someone on the "Israeli" side of this conflict knows more about what's underneath Fordow than we do.

Posted by Tintin (here)
3) NEW: 'Three nuclear sites, including Fordow, had been evacuated some time ago and our enriched uranium stockpile was moved away from these locations, there is no risk of radiation leakage' – IRIB

That's certainly possible ... or they might have figured that granite deeper than the biggest (single) bunker buster could go was better than assuming their operational security was flawless (when you're dealing with Israel and nukes, that's a foolish assumption.)

Posted by Tintin (here)
4) Fordow, Natanz and Esfahan are declared sites.
It is very naive to assume Iran has no undeclared nuclear sites.

If I was Iran, and I could, I certainly would consider that. Though given all the U.S. satellite surveillance and Israeli "surface" (spies, espionage, traitors, blackmail, ...) surveillance, focused on Iran for decades, that's no sure bet. Of course, even if Iran had other sites, and even if our intelligence knew about it, would our intelligence tell our President and Prime Ministers, and in turn would they tell us? That's a tough road for true strategic intelligence to travel.

[shaberon]

Posted by Rizotto (here)
Something tells me that these 'russian-speaking' Israelis might soon be going back to Russia. If Netanyahu lets them, that is. Apparently he shut down Israel's airports so nobody could escape and fly out? Those Israelis will most likely find other ways to exit.

Did we ask him how many were of specifically Ukrainian heritage.

Yes there are *some* Russian Jews, and, this is very complicated ever since the Second Division of the Pale gave them about a million Ukrainian Jews, that western Europe had gotten rid of. There are a lot of Ukrainian Jews, because they were persecuted all across Europe. Russia and Iran both have a history of being acceptive. So, it's not political, it's human, he is in a difficult position because a couple million Israelis are like his own people. Whereas Ukrainians are trying to prove they are neither Russian nor Polish.

Foreign nationals are still entitled to leave Israel, but that doesn't answer the co-Russian-ness that is true there.

That's already established, but, more recently, there has been time to think if someone was actually going to move there, it might be a bad idea.

[shaberon]

Posted by grapevine (here)
And who would have thought Iran, who we've all been led to believe are madmen, have been the ones to show restraint and diplomacy? That is not to say their regime is acceptable in any way.

What does "acceptable" mean here?

As to the first, anyone, as soon as you realize the one crying "madmen!" is a g-d d*mned liar.

Moreover, their culture is almost entirely based on jurisprudence.

One might notice it's not particularly friendly to usury or mortgage.

Not that international finance would like you to know anything about a non-U$D with no strings attached.

Iran stopped attacking other countries before the U. S. was created. Cyrus the Great was Christ, the Messiah, who restored Israel in the first place, and modern Iran was heavily Zionist until the Nakba. A popular uprising deposed the Shahs, and the CIA responded by assassinating Mossadeq, which worked until the 1979 incident. We can dig the report back up, but, yes, they have a governmentally-approved bird's eye view of the state of the world, and it happens to be almost exactly like reading this forum.

It's a whole heap of the same concerns mixed with the sordid fact they have evidence to substantiate their words. I can't remember the name of it, but it's somewhere in this thread, and, it's not shoddy, some twenty pages or so of issues. I don't think they did that just to garner my sympathy. I'm not sure I could find anything actually wrong with it. I would have to say it was the closest thing to "governmental representation" I have ever experienced, at least in terms of foreign affairs.

[Mike]

Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)

Posted by Tintin (here)
1) If true, we will have to wait for the result.
The Fordow facility is extremely deep, there is a good chance the bombing was not successful.
Will be very curious to see if the GBU-57s made it through ~90 meters of granite + UHP concrete.

According to one commentator I listened, who seemed quite clear in her understanding, one reason that each B2 flies with two GBU-57's is to work on deeper targets. The two GBU-57's follow each other down the same hole. The first one might be able to make a 20 foot diameter hole 200 feet deep, and the second comes in right behind it, digging another such distance, depending of course on what sort of rock or dirt it has to penetrate.

Posted by Tintin (here)
2) NOTE: Destroying Fordow with one sortie is impossible, even per U.S. assessments.
So unless the U.S. somehow flew multiple sorties without being noticed, or used a large amount of B-2s and dropped dozens of GBU-57s, Fordow is likely intact. This could just be a very big media show with no result.

I'm pretty sure that they flew three sorties ... three B2's, each targeting a different spot on Fordow thought to be more vulnerable. Given the recent work that has come public exploring the rock beneath the Giza plateau hundreds of feet deep, there's a good chance that someone on the "Israeli" side of this conflict knows more about what's underneath Fordow than we do.

Posted by Tintin (here)
3) NEW: 'Three nuclear sites, including Fordow, had been evacuated some time ago and our enriched uranium stockpile was moved away from these locations, there is no risk of radiation leakage' – IRIB

That's certainly possible ... or they might have figured that granite deeper than the biggest (single) bunker buster could go was better than assuming their operational security was flawless (when you're dealing with Israel and nukes, that's a foolish assumption.)

Posted by Tintin (here)
4) Fordow, Natanz and Esfahan are declared sites.
It is very naive to assume Iran has no undeclared nuclear sites.

If I was Iran, and I could, I certainly would consider that. Though given all the U.S. satellite surveillance and Israeli "surface" (spies, espionage, traitors, blackmail, ...) surveillance, focused on Iran for decades, that's no sure bet. Of course, even if Iran had other sites, and even if our intelligence knew about it, would our intelligence tell our President and Prime Ministers, and in turn would they tell us? That's a tough road for true strategic intelligence to travel.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-bombar...192419993.html

It was a pretty remarkable attack, complete with decoys and misdirection, all beginning with Trump's announcement that he'd give Iran 2 weeks to come to the table.

As Pete Hegseth said, “Our B-2s went in and out and back without the world knowing at all.”

Iran didn't get a single missile off, and weren't able to launch a single fighter jet. That's amazing.

There was something like 125 aircraft involved, and many of them flew right over Iraq, Syria, and Lebanon like they weren't even there. Even more amazing.

For anyone who might be interested, the article includes details on all the strategy involved, the types of ammunition used and the quantities, the fighter jets, the B-2s, their flight paths, and so on.

[happyuk]

Posted by happyuk (here)

Posted by Mike Gorman (here)
The USA attack seems half hearted to me, 3 largely emptied sites, could it be that Trump is appeasing Netenyahu's nagging calls for assistance, while not committing to anything truly confronting? I dunno but this seems like a faux strike?

I agree. Trump didn’t authorize this strike to provoke Iran into war. He did it to remove the excuse for war. Specifically, the excuse Israel has used for decades to justify escalating the conflict. How many times have we heard "Iran is weeks away from a nuke." Now, that talking point is pretty much gone.

If this strike was meant to provoke regime change or a color revolution, it's completely the wrong to go about it. Instead, it was highly focused, strategic and controlled.

Tulsi Gabbard, back in March I believe, said Iran was not a nuclear threat. There are even reports that these facilities were abandoned, maybe long abandoned.

This wasn’t an escalation—it was an interruption. Trump has both neutralized the threat and the narrative in one fell swoop.

Just one other point about this, I'd forgotten to add...

President Trump once shared a video of economist Jeffrey Sachs, where Sachs, referring to Netanyahu as a "deep, dark, son of a bitch", clearly stated that he was one of the main forces behind dragging the U.S. into the wars in Iraq and Syria, and that he was relentlessly trying to push the U.S. into a war with Iran.

This was no lapse of concentration or accident. Trump shared that clip himself. He wanted people to know.

And Sachs didn’t mince words—he said the endless pressure to attack Iran didn’t come from U.S. interests, but from Netanyahu, who has spent decades repeating the same alarmist line: "Iran is weeks away from a nuclear weapon."

That narrative has been Israel’s ongoing excuse for pre-emptive strikes, assassinations, escalation, and demands for U.S. intervention.

And as I said previously, with Trump’s recent airstrike—whatever your stance on how it was executed, how successful it was etc—that narrative may be gone.

https://x.com/BenFRubinstein/status/1877133403432116335

[Ravenlocke]

On the 21st of June, a day that will live in infamy, President Trump led the American People to War with Iran. Trump’s message to Americans? Striking Iran's three nuclear facilities is all that U.S. Forces do. Unless, of course, the Iranians have the temerity to strike back. In that case Trump promises to destroy Iran. Ridiculous.

Washington has launched its own Pearl Harbor operation. U.S. Air and Naval Power executed rehearsed strikes against a few "critical" Iranian targets. Then, American Forces pulled back, ostensibly waiting for Tehran to capitulate much like the Japanese in December 1941. Trump’s mindset echoes Israel's thinking when it attacked Iran last week, but Iran did not collapse after Israel's surprise attack.

And Tehran won't capitulate to Washington's opening moves. Initial assessments of the strikes’ effectiveness suggest nothing of consequence was destroyed. The facilities? Devoid of people. Empty of centrifuges and enriched uranium. But the lack of damage? That’s not yet relevant. It’s a question no one in Washington cares to answer.

The world now waits for Iran’s response. Tehran’s leaders aren't reckless or impetuous. Their counter-strike will be deliberate and likely decisive. And make no mistake, Iran will strike back. It will do so in ways Washington doesn't expect.

Why? Tehran controls the political and moral high ground. Israel violated international law. A program of mass murder in Gaza. Backing the murderous ISIS-led regime in Syria. Killing Christians. Killing other minorities. Israel's unprovoked attack on Iran. These are incontrovertible facts.

Escalation is inevitable, but Iran, not Washington, will control it. Remember the Houthis from Yemen and their war with Saudi Arabia? They struck Saudi oil fields. Repeatedly. Now, Iran has far greater reach. Far more ballistic missiles. Desalination plants. Across the Arabian Gulf are within striking distance of the Houthis. They are also within striking range of Iranian missiles. Millions depend on them for water.

Iran's parliament just voted to close the Strait of Hormuz. Markets won't react until Monday morning. But they will panic. Inevitably, oil prices will soar. The financial consequences for Americans? Eventually, devastating. Everyday, one out of every five barrels of oil flows through the Straits of Hormuz.

Washington spent six months bombing the Houthis. Then, Washington threw in the towel. Walking away from war with Iran won’t be so easy.

Russian Prime Minister Medvedev warned that many countries are now willing to transfer nuclear technology to Iran. Simple rule. Countries with nuclear weapons don't get bombed. Look at North Korea. Countries without them? They get bombed. Iraq. Libya and, now, Iran prove it. This is the universal lesson for the world beyond America’s borders.

Iran’s parliament voted to close the Straits of Hormuz, but Tehran doesn't need to formally close the Strait of Hormuz. Shipping companies will do it. If the risk of losing tankers is too great, the insurance companies will insist. The world's oil supply slow and the impact on industries that depend on petroleum products will be disastrous.

This is the real "battle damage assessment." The consequences will be felt for decades. Trump just invited war to America. Now, Americans must prepare for it. Tens of millions of foreigners crossed our borders illegally between 2020 and 2025. Washington is foolish to ignore the high probability that Islamist terror sleeper cells are here. No doubt, the Drug Cartels will be happy to cooperate with them against American Law Enforcement.

Dietrich Bonhoeffer, a German Pastor who resisted Hitler’s regime and was eventually executed by the Nazis, said evil carries the germ of its own subversion. But against stupidity, Bonhoeffer warned the well-intentioned are always defenseless.

Bonhoeffer explained why: "Against stupidity we are defenseless. Neither protests nor the use of force accomplishes anything here; reasons fall on deaf ears; facts that contradict one’s prejudgment simply need not be believed – in such moments the stupid person even becomes critical – and when facts are irrefutable, they are just pushed aside as inconsequential, as incidental. In all this the stupid person, in contrast to the malicious one, is utterly self-satisfied and, being easily irritated, becomes dangerous by going on the attack."

Washington's ruling political class, not just President Trump, decided to unconditionally support Israel in its war against Iran. Going to war when and where Israel dictates and for reasons Israel decrees is stupid. It’s worse than stupid. It’s stupidity on stilts. Israel’s war for Jewish Supremacy in the Middle East will fail and Washington will now fail with it. The war against Iran will fail because the war is unjust and the world will ensure that it fails.

https://x.com/DougAMacgregor/status/1936918925922734321

[ExomatrixTV]

• Israeli Propagandists Nervous about Iran War:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Fylo9_a8y3w

The Grayzone's Max Blumenthal and Aaron Mate on undeniable signs of anxiety by Israel's top propagandists as they pressured the US to strike Iran.

[Tintin]

Alexander Chizhevsky: Soviet scientist who used the 11 year solar cycle to predict, let's say, peak human activity intensity, although that may be a poor description. It's new to me so I'll attempt to go more granular. This suggests a correlation with some of Clif High's work although his modality is quite discrete from this.

Fascinating.

Brian Roemmele, here:

Alexander Chizhevsky's work was suppressed in the Soviet Union primarily due to its political and ideological implications, which clashed with the state's control over scientific narratives and societal behavior. Here’s a detailed breakdown of why this occurred:

1. **Predictive Power Over Mass Behavior**: Chizhevsky’s heliobiology suggested that solar cycles, particularly sunspot activity, could influence human behavior and trigger mass events like revolutions, wars, and social unrest. His 1924 study, *Physical Factors of the Historical Process*, analyzed 500 years of historical data and correlated peaks in solar activity with significant societal upheavals. This implied that human actions—and by extension, the success or failure of the Soviet regime—might be influenced by natural, uncontrollable cosmic forces rather than solely by Marxist ideology or state policy. The Soviet leadership, particularly under Stalin, viewed this as a threat to the deterministic framework of dialectical materialism, which asserted that history was shaped by class struggle and economic conditions, not external natural phenomena.

2. **Challenge to State Authority**: If solar cycles could predict or even precipitate mass movements, this undermined the Communist Party's claim to absolute control over the populace. The ability to forecast unrest based on astronomical data could empower dissidents or rival factions to plan actions aligned with these cycles, potentially destabilizing the regime. Chizhevsky’s findings suggested that the state’s grip on power might be subject to forces beyond its manipulation, which was intolerable in a system where the Party sought to dictate all aspects of life, including the historical narrative.

3. **Labeling as "Pseudoscience"**: The Soviet regime often suppressed research that deviated from approved ideological lines by branding it as bourgeois, idealistic, or pseudoscientific. Chizhevsky’s interdisciplinary approach, blending physics, biology, and history, didn’t fit neatly into the rigid Marxist-Leninist scientific paradigm. His work was seen as speculative and lacking immediate practical utility for the state’s industrialization or military goals, making it an easy target for dismissal. This mirrors the broader repression of fields like genetics (e.g., Lysenkoism) and cybernetics in the 1940s and 1950s, where ideological purity trumped empirical evidence.

4. **Personal Consequences and Political Purges**: Chizhevsky’s research attracted scrutiny as early as the 1930s, and he was arrested in 1942 during Stalin’s purges. He spent eight years in labor camps and internal exile, a common fate for intellectuals whose work was deemed subversive. Declassified Soviet archives, released post-1991, reveal that his arrest was justified with vague charges of "anti-Soviet activity," but the underlying motive was likely his refusal to align his findings with state propaganda. His imprisonment silenced him during a critical period and disrupted the development of heliobiology within the USSR.

5. **Post-Stalin Continuation**: Even after Stalin’s death in 1953, the suppression lingered due to institutional inertia and lingering suspicion of his ideas. The Soviet scientific establishment, shaped by decades of ideological conformity, remained cautious about reviving research that could reopen questions about external influences on human behavior, especially during the Cold War when control over ideology was paramount.

The suppression reflects a broader pattern in the Soviet Union where science was subordinated to political needs. Chizhevsky’s case stands out because his work’s accuracy—later corroborated by modern studies on geomagnetic effects—highlighted the cost of this censorship. His eventual rehabilitation in the 1960s came too late to restore his full influence, but it underscores how his ideas were seen as a double-edged sword: scientifically groundbreaking yet politically dangerous.

and here:

Alexander Chizhevsky’s research is robust from 500BC to 2025. It got him locked up in the Soviet Union for its accuracy.

and here:

The peak of this Chizhevsky clock cycle is mid July.

Understand:

A clock does not make time, it shows time.

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And again from Brian, here:

None of this is guesswork. Been studying it and advising from it since the 1970s when it was taught to me by a Princeton physics professor.

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So, in summary, we could see an increase in tension between now and mid-July. I'd need to check again but I think Clif High using his models has predicted the same point in July for emotional language intensity clearly suggesting that this is likely to pivot around events in West Asia.

[thirtythree]

BBC News - Israel attacked Fordo nuclear facility, Iranian media reportpublished at 11:35

Iranian local officials say Israel has attacked the Fordo nuclear site, according to reports in local media.

Both the IRNA and Tasnim news agencies quote a statement from the crisis management authority in Qom province, where Fordo is based. The statement says Israel attacked the facility, but adds there "will be no danger or threat to citizens" as a result.


TEHRAN (Tasnim) – The Islamic Revolution Guards Corps said it has, for the first time, launched multiwarhead Kheibar ballistic missiles in the latest round of retaliatory strikes against the Zionist regime.

https://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2...israeli-regime

[Tintin]

Extracting from Simplicius' new article today which also cites historical precedents for the recent bombings:

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Shayrat Redux? Trump's 'Invisible' Fleet Leaves Mirage of 'Devastation' in Iran

There are various reports going around that through the usual Swiss back channels Trump’s administration essentially informed Iran of the strikes, implying that as long as Iran does not respond it will be a ‘one-off’ attack. If true, this would be clear indication that the proposed back-channel agreement would require Iran to allow the US strike package to pass unharmed, and give the US its face-saving off-ramp from the conflict. This was one of the possibilities we predicted days ago in the premium article and now seems increasingly likely to be the case.

This is not Trump’s first time: recall the infamous 2017 Tomahawk attack on Syria’s Shayrat base which was billed as some kind of ‘devastating’ deathblow, when it turned out to be a show-strike nothingburger which left a few potholes on the runway and did no real damage. This is Trump’s way of alleviating neocon pressure—a sort of purity test for his Israeli handlers.

But the big question is, what really happened: was the strike entirely fake, as some suggest? Recall that there is zero evidence any B-2s even flew over Iran, with the package including dozens of fired Tomahawk missiles from an Ohio class submarine 400 miles away. Many are now spouting off about the day’s favored word of ‘subsidence’, caused by the bunker busters. But not all experts are convinced, like this ex-US artillery officer [Ed: Armchair Warlord on X] who knows a thing or two about shell craters:

Now that imagery has emerged, I think my take from last night is vindicated - the damage seen thus far is not consistent with extremely large "bunker-buster" bombs but with lighter standoff weapons that caused only surface damage. The Iranians also clearly had ample warning.

It’s possible the craters are merely from the submarine-launched Tomahawks, though they do look large enough to be from a much more powerful weapon.

My personal take, though, is that most likely a back-channel agreement was made for the B-2s to have safe passage to do a limited ‘show strike’.

The evidence?

Firstly, the fact that it was a small strike, which even experts agree utilized far fewer MOPs (Mass Ordnance Penetrators) than required. The problem is, since half the operative B-2 fleet was used as ‘diversion’, the remaining half (7 x B-2s) could only carry 14 x total penetrators, and these had to be divided between several facilities including Natanz, on top of Fordow. That means Fordow only received six hits, far fewer than needed. For it to receive more, the B-2s would have had to do numerous runs, or extend the campaign—which could have gotten messily off-script. By signaling a ‘token’ strike, Trump likely mollified Iran into not responding.

The second piece of evidence is that—besides the various intel and rumors of back channel deals—new satellite imagery revealed that Iran had dozens of dump trucks carrying out “unusual activity” at Fordow two days before the attack:

Iran Reinforced Fordow Nuclear Site Just Before U.S. Strikes!

Satellite images (June 19) show 16 dump trucks & earthmovers piling dirt near tunnel entrances of Iran’s Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant, buried 90m underground. Signs of pre-emptive fortification before strikes.

Satellite imagery shows “unusual truck and vehicular activity” at the Fordow fuel enrichment facility two days before the strike, according to a senior analyst at the satellite firm Maxar. On June 19, there were 16 cargo trucks along the access road leading to the underground military complex. Imagery taken the next day shows that most of the trucks had moved about one kilometer northwest, farther from the facility.

Initial assumptions were that these were flatbeds hauling away the critical ‘enrichment materials’, but in fact that total relocation of the Fordow site had already taken place months ago, as Iranian figures like Mohsen Rezaee revealed. The above shows not flatbeds but dump trucks which appear to be filling Fordow’s tunnel entrances in order to fortify them against blast damage.

Another image makes it more clear, as individual trucks are seen dumping something at the entrances:

New high-resolution imagery, captured on June 21, 2025, suggests Iran was preparing the Fordow nuclear facility for a strike. The facility's entrance tunnels were observed being filled with earth by trucks and diggers.

The timeline seems to be that Trump made up his mind Wednesday during the big meeting with his advisors, then back channel deals trickled through by Thursday, at which point Iran rushed gear to begin backfilling the tunnels—give or take a day. Given that the attacks happened early Sunday morning Iranian time, it would have given Iran up to three days to do some last minute work.

The next piece of evidence, to me, is the most damning. Just listen to it and ask yourself how realistic this sounds—from the Pentagon press conference:[Ed. - see video in article]

“We are unaware of any shots fired at the US strike package. Iran’s fighters did not fly, and it appears Iran’s surface to air missiles did not see us.”

Really?

Iran knew the exact epicenter the B-2s would have to converge on and yet was unable to even attempt to engage them? Could the scriptwriters have written a more schlockily improbable series of events? They could have at least added a few ‘glory moments’ of F-35s and F-22s shooting down a couple Iranian fighter craft for effect.

Recall that the US was having severe problems even operating just outside of Yemeni airspace, with not only F-35s nearly shot down, but two F-18s lost to panicked defensive maneuvers, as well as one other shot down by US air defense, and a fourth “nearly shot down” in the same operation.

So, Houthi air defenses can engage F-35s, but an entire sky swarming with B-2s, F-35s, F-22s, and other planes were not detected at all by Iran, whose IADS is likely dozens of times stronger than Yemen’s? Keep in mind the Pentagon spokesman also said the strike package included fourth generation craft that flew all the way to central Iran, which presumably refers to F-16s and F-15s—but for some bizarre reason Iran “never fired a shot”.

Sound suspicious to anyone else?

And after all these strikes, countless claims of Israeli “total aerial control”, there is still not a single video of a foreign craft over the skies of Iran. The B-2s were even seen flying back over New Jersey on their ‘heroe’s return’, yet no one in a nation of 90 million saw or heard anything on this most ‘mysterious’ of nights.

Something’s rotten in the state of HasbarAmerica.

[Article continues....]

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In the meantime we get subjected to the usual transparently wretched guff from 'newspapers' like the Guardian claiming, well, whatever it is they're claiming.

Back on the "Fog of War" merry-go-round

[Tintin]

Concerning Dimona: well it's 'trending' at the moment as people speculate. I very much doubt they'll do anything about this in terms of attack but with the US setting a precedent I'd rule nothing out: I'd say if the reports in legacy media are to be believed and the Zionists are continuing to target Iranian facilities (Busehr is the main concern as the Russians are aiding the Iranians in their enrichment endeavours there solely for generating energy, not bombs!) and do do something stupid, then all bets are off:

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Source: Abdirahman M. Ahmed

EXPOSED: THE ZIONIST NUCLEAR LIE

The Islamic Republic of Iran has just released a striking 3D simulation of the Dimona nuclear facility, one of the most heavily guarded military sites of the genocidal Khazarian zionist colonists occupying Palestine.

Hidden deep in the Negev Desert, Dimona is not a civilian project; it is a ticking time bomb, a core pillar of an illegal, undeclared nuclear weapons program, developed under the cloak of “industrial” infrastructure.

At the same time, the genocidal zionist monsters continue to burn starving babies alive in the extermination camps of Gaza.

This usurping settler colony, armed to the teeth with nuclear terror, has never signed the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), has never allowed full inspections, and continues to violate every principle of international law, with full support from western supremacist powers.

Let it be known: the world is no longer fooled. The resistance sees everything. No bunker is too deep. No lie is eternal.

And to the European settlers who colonized Palestine through massacres, terror, and lies: Run. Run back to where you came from.

Because the land you occupy cries out for justice. And justice is coming.

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For some balance tho', there's this, which I'd lean toward being the overall Iranian aim: slow attrition of, and destruction of, the Israeli infrastructure that will effectively create a gradual depopulation of the settlers and their eventual migration - way more plausible:

Analysis from Shahid Bolsen assessing Israel's and Iran military and political capabilities:

Source: Olga Bazova:

https://x.com/i/status/1936914501258887324

[thirtythree]

Posted by shaberon (here)

Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
'Pakistan's in the US's inner circle - at least for now'

US President Donald Trump hosts Pakistan army chief Asim Munir for an unprecedented White House lunch, as experts say Washington is resetting ties with Islamabad.

Of course -- it's not a real country -- just "Israel of the east".

In terms of oppression of minorities and occupation and subjugation of Kashmiris, that would have to be India. Dont you think?

https://www.reddit.com/r/AlJazeera/c..._join_idf_but/

[shaberon]

Posted by thirtythree (here)
In terms of oppression of minorities and occupation and subjugation of Kashmiris, that would have to be India. Dont you think?

Of course modern India is minority-oppressive. Does that have anything to do with the current conflict, or, does it border Iran?

Not really, it's an outcome of the British Raj and some two hundred years of rapine and plunder, including the first documented crowd murder by machine guns, considerably larger than the one recently witnessed. There would be no Kashmiri -- Pak border otherwise, or the stated goal of Islamic conquest taking over again just like the Mughals. This place has been invaded over, and over again, always from the west.


Today the balance has shifted to prolonged salvos:

Iran state TV: Missiles launched from Iran hit their targets, Israeli air defenses were unable to intercept any of them

Iran launched on Monday a fresh wave of missiles towards the Zionist entity, in what was described by the Israeli media as “prolonged barrage”. The Wave hit strategic electrical facility in southern occupied territories.



They might be able to repair that one, until then, the south is blacked out. And, I don't know what else happened, it is exceeding "examples" and veering in to "too much to count", without very much intentional targeting of purely civilian areas. If they re-supply interceptor missiles, and, there is nothing to launch them with, golf clap.

[Bill Ryan]

There are reports that Iranian missiles are headed towards US bases in Bahrain and Kuwait, and there is video of air defenses activated over Doha, Qatar.

Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi had flown to Moscow to meet with Vladimir Putin. I'd be sure that Putin, if he was being consulted, would have advised restraint.

But it's also possible that Araghchi was acting as an emissary of Iranian Supreme Leader Khamenei, and was merely informing Putin what decision had been made.

[Jaak]

[Tintin]

It remains to be seen whether the retaliatory strikes by Iran are a one-off: I might not bet on that right now, but, it could just be a symbolic tit-for-tat.

*That said, this was posted up about an hour ago: seems the Iranians may have taken out the head of Mossad? (verification needed here - it could be misleading):

Iran kills David Barnea, head of Mossad, the Israeli secret terrorist organisation. The Mossad HQ in Herzliya was destroyed in a precise missile strike.

SEE the video on MSN:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...es/vi-AA1GT3FP

*According to Oneindia channel the strike which is claimed to have taken out Mossad HQ (?) happened June 17th.

Their description:

In a stunning escalation, Iran has reportedly obliterated Israel’s Mossad headquarters in Herzliya with a precision missile strike. Iranian media claim Mossad Director David Barnea was inside the bunker when it was hit, along with senior army intelligence officials. This strike, part of Iran's Operation True Promise III, could mark one of the most significant blows to Israeli intelligence in decades. Videos from Herzliya show widespread devastation, raising serious questions about the failures of Israel’s air defense systems.

[JackMcThorn]

I really thought when the 'two week' ultimatum was mentioned - tptb would indeed take the time for a last ditch effort to ensure some dialog.