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    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
    There is another thread about how Zionism got injected into Christianity that explores that aspect of the selling of Zionism, but I thought we needed a thread to discuss the current Zionist propaganda.


    Here's a short video exploring Israel's Zionist propaganda changing over time, and currently using sociopaths in bikinis to make Zionism sexy: https://www.bitchute.com/video/a2RndxZflwtL An appropriate title: IDF Sex Programming (MKULTRA 3.0)
    I've now watched the video in the OP, which I hadn't done before when responding (apologies for being off topic Dennis)

    As I'm neither young nor Jewish, this particular type of advertising has passed me by although I was aware of the Birthright scheme, which has been running for a long time (since 1999, which is 25 years). Everything is free, (airfare, accommodation, meals, and educational activities). That in itself is a massive carrot and then, once in situ, the indoctrination focus must intensify, and to a youngster would seem like heaven on earth.

    https://int.birthrightisrael.com/

    But is it enough to cut through the hypocrisy of Zionism itself and go the distance for a lifetime? If so then all jews would be Zionists but they're not. If the scheme was extended to non-jews the same level of indoctrination would probably apply.
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    My question to Grok 2.0:
    • "What is the real origin of the "Star of David" Symbol hexagram: the compound of two equilateral triangles ... and how many other cultures in the world used that symbol too or even before the Hebrew Jews did?"
    The Star of David, also known as the Magen David in Hebrew, is a hexagram composed of two interlocking equilateral triangles, one pointing up and one pointing down. Here are some insights into its origins and cultural uses:

    Origins:
    • Jewish Context:
      • While popularly associated with Judaism, the Star of David's specific origins within Jewish tradition are not entirely clear. Historically, the symbol was not widely used as a uniquely Jewish emblem until the 19th century. The term "Magen David" or "Shield of David" appears to reference the protective aspect of God, associated with King David, but there's no biblical or Talmudic basis for this association with the hexagram itself.
      • The earliest archaeological evidence of the hexagram in a Jewish context dates back to the 3rd or 4th century CE, found in the arch of the Khirbet Shura synagogue in the Galilee as a decorative motif, but it did not carry religious significance at that time.
    • Pre-Jewish Uses:
      • Ancient Cultures: The hexagram has roots far predating its association with Judaism. It appears in various ancient cultures where it was used as a magical or decorative symbol. For instance:
        • In Mesopotamia, hexagrams were part of astrological and magical signs.
        • The symbol was also found in ancient India, where it is known as the "Shatkona" and represents the union of male and female divine energies in Hindu symbolism.
    • Medieval and Renaissance Europe:
      • The hexagram appeared in medieval Christian art, often as a decorative element rather than a symbol of faith. It was used in alchemical texts, where the triangle pointing up could represent fire or the element of air, and the one pointing down might symbolize water or earth, symbolizing the harmony of opposites or the union of heaven and earth.
    • Islamic Tradition:
      • Known as the "Seal of Solomon," the hexagram was a popular symbol in Islamic culture, often used in amulets and as an architectural motif. It was considered to have protective qualities.

    Usage in Other Cultures:
    • Hinduism and Buddhism: In Hindu and Buddhist contexts, the hexagram represents the balance of male and female energies or cosmic forces, with each triangle symbolizing one aspect of this duality.
    • Occult Practices: The hexagram has been employed in various occult traditions for its symbolic representation of the integration of opposites, reflecting aspects like spirit and matter, or the macrocosm and microcosm.
    • Freemasonry: The hexagram can be found in Masonic symbolism, often representing the union of divine principles or the structure of the universe.
    • General Decorative Use: Beyond religious or mystical significance, the hexagram has been a common decorative motif in many cultures due to its geometrical simplicity and aesthetic appeal, appearing in architecture, art, and textiles across different civilizations.
    The journey of the Star of David from a general decorative and mystical symbol to an emblem of Jewish identity is complex, involving cultural exchanges, the reinterpretation of symbols, and the historical events that shaped Jewish identity, especially in the 19th century with the rise of Zionism, where it was adopted as a symbol on the flag of the Zionist movement in 1897. However, its use as a Jewish symbol does not negate its earlier and concurrent uses in other cultures, where it held different meanings or was employed for its geometric symmetry.
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    Speaking of symbols, take a look at the logo for Birthright Israel: https://int.birthrightisrael.com/



    Who else agrees that it looks very much like the symbol associated with the NWO?
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    It's got the masons, zionists and one dollar bill all over it. Etc.

    These people are cracked. I wish they'd all just move to a remote little island and give the humane amongst us peace and quiet.

    Unfortunately they are highly intelligent and very determined to get their own (NWO) way.
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    Selling zionism?

    Just don't buy it. That's really easy for those of us with moral compasses and minds of our own, like this man here.


    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/5Qz7QRMhKlAS/
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    One of the components of the deranged belief system of Zionist Christians and Jews is the red heiffer. The Temple Institute is trying to breed or discover the perfect Red Heifer that needs to be sacrificed before the rebuilding of the temple:


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    This may need its own thread - maybe - or perhaps better placed on the Israel-Palestine genocide thread, but, it does speak to how 'Zionism' in the guise of 'neo-conservatism' is (or was in 2002) sold to US military operatives, one of whom was at the time the extraordinary now former Lt Col Karen Kwiatkowski familiar to many of us from her periodic appearances with Judge Andrew Napolitano. There is a relevance to the thread theme here, albeit maybe a little tentative.

    I've put it in the library, have just started watching it as well, and will link to it there. I'll provide a YouTube link as well but I've reached the point these days that I'll avoid YouTube wherever possible, and Rumble, so I don't have to put up with all that blasted advertising

    If YouTube does have a saving grace then it's the transcript provision which can be very helpful sometimes.

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    RAW FOOTAGE : Interviewed by Kent Bye on July 22, 2004

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    Karen's journey takes us through her unexpected transition from Sub-Saharan African Affairs to a pivotal role in Middle Eastern policy during a time of significant geopolitical tension. She recounts her first day in the office where she was confronted with an unspoken rule: keeping pro-Palestinian opinions under wraps. This moment marked a turning point that opened her eyes to deeper issues within military and political discourse.

    Throughout this discussion, you will gain insight into how personal beliefs can clash with institutional expectations and what it means to navigate such complexities within high-stakes environments like the Pentagon. Karen’s experiences shed light on broader themes related to transparency, ethics in defense policy, and the challenges faced by those who dare to speak out against prevailing narratives.
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    Quote Posted by Rizotto (here)
    Speaking of symbols, take a look at the logo for Birthright Israel: https://int.birthrightisrael.com/



    Who else agrees that it looks very much like the symbol associated with the NWO?
    Thank you Bill for placing the image on the above post.

    The Birthright logo next to "Taglit" tweaked my memory, about Tanit a goddess revered by ancient people from the area (e.g. Phoenicians, etc.)

    There are remarkable similarities between the goddess Tanit icon found on many prehistoric sites along the Mediterranean, and the 'Taglit' name and Birthright's logo above.
    Look up the Tanit goddess icons from this website: https://elinritter.com/blogs/the-ibi...ddess-of-ibiza
    (I need to find time one of these days to figure out placing an image on the Project Avalon site... )

    How curious that these old symbols get recycled in similar shapes to this day. Is this deliberate, e.g. some way of usurping ancient heritage from that area for zionist purposes?

    Or does it come from the collective unconscious? On that point, let's consider that the religious symbols of conflicting factions of that area apparently have a common origin. Those interested in that topic will like to watch the "Symbols of an Alien Sky" documentary by David Talbot. The star of David (or rotating triangle), eye above pyramid, the cross, star in crescent, and even the swastika are depicted in this reconstruction of catastrophic cosmic events.

    Symbols of an Alien Sky (Full Documentary)


    Do these symbols have a subconscious influence on us? I probably should start a new separate thread to continue that discussion.

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    Quote Posted by Rizotto (here)
    Is this deliberate, e.g. some way of usurping ancient heritage from that area for zionist purposes?

    That is how it starts. Yhwh usurps Baal Hadad, in the only instance I know of that is accompanied by the message "this deity is false/inferior".

    Hence it is a disruption of Canaan, which was far more adjunct to the universal system, in order to make its own regime.

    Although the event is certainly not modern, it is still the status quo, so it is still current.

    Until this gets sorted, it is difficult to see how that whole tradition stands for anything but a re-branding and radical overhaul of what lacked such a message previously.

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    Following up on the Star of David and its relationship to Hinduism:

    Judaism was created by Indian philosophers from the Brahman Caste (chosen caste), who left India during one of its many wars and made their way to the middle east. Megasthenes, who was an ancient Greek ambassador and explorer during the Hellenistic period, traveled to India around 300 B.C.E. and wrote in his book Indica about this fairly new religion of Judaism that was created by the Brahmans, whom he called the Kalanoi. Aristotle echoed Megasthenes, as did Flavius Josephus, and even Voltaire had something to say about it, claiming that "all" religions came out of India, the cradle of civilization. Voltaire added that Abraham and Sarah were actually Brahma and Saraswati. Comparative religious studies show us that all religions borrow myths and stories from one another, and the same thing was done with Judaism. The stories of the Old Testament are just an amalgamation of Hindu/Sumerian/Babylonian/Egyptian/Greek myths.

    Sources: Between Jerusalem and Benares - edited by Hananya Goodman and The Proof of Vedic Culture's Global Existence - by Stephen Knapp

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    Quote Posted by FractalEnergy (here)
    Judaism was created by Indian philosophers from the Brahman Caste (chosen caste), who left India during one of its many wars and made their way to the middle east. Megasthenes, who was an ancient Greek ambassador and explorer during the Hellenistic period, traveled to India around 300 B.C.E. and wrote in his book Indica about this fairly new religion of Judaism that was created by the Brahmans, whom he called the Kalanoi.

    Megasthenes is a re-construction of conflicting fragments.

    Kalanos was a digambara or naked ascetic. He was a Brahman who traveled to the Seleucid capital. Has nothing to do with Judaism. Who were the Brahmans that left India and created it?




    Quote Aristotle echoed Megasthenes, as did Flavius Josephus, and even Voltaire had something to say about it, claiming that "all" religions came out of India, the cradle of civilization. Voltaire added that Abraham and Sarah were actually Brahma and Saraswati. Comparative religious studies show us that all religions borrow myths and stories from one another, and the same thing was done with Judaism. The stories of the Old Testament are just an amalgamation of Hindu/Sumerian/Babylonian/Egyptian/Greek myths.

    Josephus is an echo chamber.


    Otherwise, that is generally correct, there was no Old Testament such as Genesis which comes from the Babylonian Captivity. Prior to that, there were hostile forces identifiable as Judea, but most of the mythological overhaul took place in Babylon. However we can't quite be sure how/by who.


    On the whole, you *can* find that Cannanite Zadoikite Priests were usurped and replaced by "scribes and lower functionairies" called Levites. It's in the Old Testament. We are not necessarily talking about the person, Levi, or his immediate descendants, but the name of a "class".

    That is highly parallel to the Brahmans of India, which are just that. Moreover, they had already been a problem, and had actually been dispersed by the Mauryas at the time of Megasthenes. They regain their hold around the era 200-500, remaining until the present day, thanks to modern India's caste-based Constitution.

    Zoroastrianism was by far the "most powerful" religion of the old world, i. e. it liberated the Jews, Cyrus the Great is the Messiah. It undergoes the same kind of textual complication and change of ideals.


    So, yes, it could be argued there was a "scribal method" that happened in most places, that creates an "official institution", which betrays the very principles of the older hymns in their collection.

    The Brahmana texts display a high level of ignorance. The others perhaps have a bit more of a sinister intent. Brahmans are perhaps guilty of self-security, whereas the others have more standing as a matter of statecraft.

    India's first "Western Flood Myth" consists of about six lines in one of the Brahmanas. It comes back as a massive legend in the Puranas around year 500. It's hand-in-hand with numerous western influences over the same period. It's actually pretty easy to show where India becomes Hellenized.

    It's next to impossible to find anything western that was certainly and directly lifted from Indian thought. The first thing that comes to mind is that it can be surveyed that the career of Jesus is about twenty quotes of Buddha. Were they just thinking alike?


    On the other hand, Cochin Jews have been present in Kerala through all recorded history, possibly as far back as the Solomonic era. I would question if Kerala is even India. It was highly separate and independent, and one of the last places to be "Brahmanized" not until the 800s. They're certainly not the Second Temple, nor the political machine of it.


    I would contend that "scribalism" is a transferrable technology that spread like a trend, rather than being centrally orchestrated in any way.

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    Alan Macleod at Mintpress News:

    [Excerpted]:
    Another Unit 8200 agent who went on to work for CNN is Tal Heinrich. Heinrich spent three years as a Unit 8200 agent. Between 2014 and 2017, she was the field and news desk producer for CNN’s notoriously pro-Israel Jerusalem Bureau, where she was one of the principal journalists shaping America’s understanding of Operation Protective Edge, Israel’s bombardment of Gaza that killed more than 2,000 people and left hundreds of thousands displaced. Heinrich later left CNN and is now the official spokesperson of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

    CNN’s penchant for hiring Israeli state figures continues to this day. Tamar Michaelis, for example, currently works for the network, producing much of its Israel/Palestine content. This is despite having previously served as an official IDF spokesperson in the Israeli Defense Forces.

    The New York Times, meanwhile, hired Anat Schwartz, an ex-Israeli Air Force Intelligence officer with zero journalistic experience. Schwartz co-wrote the infamous and now discredited “Screams Without Words” expose, which claimed that Hamas fighters systematically sexually violated Israelis on October 7. Times staff themselves revolted over the lack of evidence and fact-checking in the piece.

    Multiple New York Times employees, including star columnist David Brooks, have had children serving in the IDF; even as they report or offer opinions on the region, the Times never disclosed these glaring conflicts of interest to its readers. Nor has it disclosed that it purchased a Jerusalem house for its bureau chief that was stolen from the family of Palestinian intellectual Ghada Karmi in 1948.
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    MintPress News interviewed Karmi last year about her latest book and Israeli attempts to silence her. Former New York Times Magazine writer and current editor-in-chief of The Atlantic Jeffrey Goldberg (an American) dropped out of the University of Pennsylvania to volunteer as an IDF prison guard during the first Palestinian Intifada (uprising). In his memoirs, Goldberg revealed that, while serving in the IDF., he helped cover up the abuse of Palestinian prisoners.

    Social media companies, too, are filled with former Unit 8200 agents. A 2022 MintPress study found no fewer than 99 former Unit 8200 operatives working for Google.
    ---

    Link, from 2022: https://www.mintpressnews.com/reveal...amazon/282413/

    GOOGLE:
    According to employment website LinkedIn, there are currently at least 99 former Unit 8200 veterans currently working for Google. This number almost certainly underestimates the scale of the collaboration between the two organizations, however. For one, this does not count former Google employees. Nor does it include those without a public LinkedIn account, or those who do have an account, but have not disclosed their previous affiliations with the high-tech Israeli surveillance unit. This is likely to be a considerable number, as agents are expressly prohibited from ever revealing their affiliation to Unit 8200. Thus, the figure of 99 only represents the number of current (or extremely recent) Google employees who are brazenly flouting Israeli military law by including the organization in their profiles.

    Among these include:

    Gavriel Goidel: Between 2010 and 2016, Goidel served in Unit 8200, rising to become Head of Learning at the organization, leading a large team of operatives who sifted through intelligence data to “understand patterns of hostile activists”, in his own words, transmitting that information to superiors. Whether this included any of the over 1000 Gazan civilians Israel killed during their 2014 bombardment of Gaza is unknown. Goidel was recently appointed Head of Strategy and Operations at Google.

    Jonathan Cohen: Cohen was a team leader during his time in Unit 8200 (2000-2003). He has since spent more than 13 years working for Google in various senior positions, and is currently Head of Insights, Data and Measurement.

    Ori Daniel: Between 2003 and 2006, Daniel was a technical operations specialist with Unit 8200. After a stint with Palantir, he joined Google in 2018, rising to become Head of Global Self-Service for Google Waze.

    Ben Bariach: For nearly five years between 2007 and 2011, Bariach served as a cyber intelligence officer, where he “commanded strategic teams of elite officers and professionals.”Since 2016, he has worked for Google. Between 2018 and 2020, he concentrated on tackling “controversial content, disinformation and cyber-security”. Today, he is a product partnership manager for Google in London.---
    Notably, Google appears to not only accept former Unit 8200 agents with open arms, but to actively recruit current members of the controversial organization. For example, in October 2020, Gai Gutherz left his job as a project leader at Unit 8200 and walked into a full time job at Google as a software engineer. In 2018, Lior Liberman appears to have done the same thing, taking a position as a program manager at Google after 4 years in military intelligence. Earlier this year, she left Google and now works at Microsoft.
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    Again, from here:
    Top Down Pro-Israel Censorship
    When it comes to the Israeli attack on its neighbors, corporate media has consistently displayed a pro-Israel bias. The New York Times, for example, regularly refrains from identifying the perpetrator of violence when that perpetrator is the Israeli military and described the 1948 genocide of around 750,000 Palestinians as a mere “migration.” A study of the paper’s coverage found that words like “slaughter,” “massacre,” and “horrific” appear 22 times more frequently when discussing Israeli deaths than Palestinian ones, despite the gigantic disparity in the number of people killed on both sides.

    Meanwhile, in a story about how Israeli soldiers shot 335 bullets at a car containing a Palestinian child and then shot the rescue workers who came to save her, CNN printed the headline “Five-year-old Palestinian girl found dead after being trapped in car with dead relatives” – a title that could be interpreted that her death was a tragic accident.
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    This sort of reporting does not happen by accident. In fact, it comes straight from the top. A leaked New York Times memo from November revealed that company management explicitly instructed its reporters not to use words such as “genocide,” “slaughter,” and “ethnic cleansing” when discussing Israel’s actions. Times’ staff must refrain from using words like “refugee camp,” “occupied territory,” or even “Palestine” in their reporting, making it almost impossible to convey some of the most basic facts to their audience.

    CNN staff are under similar pressure. Last October, new C.E.O. Mark Thompson sent out a memo to all staff instructing them to make sure that Hamas (and not Israel) is presented as responsible for the violence, that they must always use the moniker “Hamas-controlled” when discussing the Gaza Health Ministry and their civilian death figures, and barring them from any reporting of Hamas’ viewpoint, which its senior director of news standards and practices told staff was “not newsworthy” and amounted to “inflammatory rhetoric and propaganda.”

    Both the Times and CNN have fired multiple journalists over their opposition to Israeli actions or support for Palestinian liberation. In November, the Times’ Jazmine Hughes was forced out after she signed an open letter opposing genocide in Palestine. The newspaper terminated Hosam Salem’s contract the previous year after a pressure campaign from pro-Israel group Honest Reporting. And CNN anchor Marc Lamont Hill was abruptly fired in 2018 for calling for Palestinian liberation in a speech at the United Nations.

    Large organizations like Axios, CNN and the New York Times obviously know who they are hiring. These are some of the most sought-after jobs in journalism, and hundreds of applicants are likely applying for each position. The fact that these organizations choose to select Israeli spies above everybody else raises serious questions about their journalistic credibility and their purpose.
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    Just some examples.

    Also, here in our library: Israel Project's 2009 Global Language Dictionary
    A PERSONAL MESSAGE FROM THE AUTHOR
    I wrote my first Language Dictionary for The Israel Project in 2003. Since that time, Israel has had three Prime Ministers, several stalled peace initiatives, found itself the victim of attack from its northern and southern borders, and has suffered greatly in the court of public opinion.

    On the other hand, the daily suicide bombings have stopped, and Hamas & Hezbollah have shown themselves to be the brutal terrorist organizations that Israel has warned about. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

    All of the material in this document is new or updated based on research conducted in 2008 and 2009. Some of the language will be familiar; most of the “Words That Work” boxes come from Israeli representatives and spokespeople. But, the polling, strategic recommendations and guidance are all based on the current situation. I hope that advocates for Israel will benefit from the massive amount of work that went into the creation of this booklet. I also hope that this will be the last Israel Language Dictionary I ever have to craft.

    And remember, it’s not what you say that counts. It’s what people hear.

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    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)
    This may need its own thread - maybe - or perhaps better placed on the Israel-Palestine genocide thread, but, it does speak to how 'Zionism' in the guise of 'neo-conservatism' is (or was in 2002) sold to US military operatives, one of whom was at the time the extraordinary now former Lt Col Karen Kwiatkowski familiar to many of us from her periodic appearances with Judge Andrew Napolitano. There is a relevance to the thread theme here, albeit maybe a little tentative.


    LtCol. Karen Kwiatkowski - The Lost Interview: The Whistleblower Who Tried To Stop A War

    Thanks for this! This video rings so many bells on so many topics and could have been posted in many of Avalon's other threads.

    The thread/narrative the comes to my mind first is of The Anglo-Saxon Mission for two reasons:
    1. The Anglo Saxon Mission describes a group of powerful, influential people who are deeply committed to a certain objective but none of them seem to be able to give any ethical or moral reason at to why. They have blindly accepted that there is a certain agenda and their only concern it how it should be carried out regardless of the ethics and morality, the consequences to innocent people or the long term harm this agenda may do.

    2. The agendas they are working towards are very long term plans that span over decades.

    The Zionism/State of Israel is clearly a project of over a century and probably one of the most long term projects of groups The Anglo Saxon Mission. Lt Col Karen Kwiatkowski details here how high ranking individuals carry out the Zionist agenda with complete determination and without any toleration of debate about the issue and regard to the long term effects to U.S. security or the well being of any of the people who live within the borders of Israel/Palestine.

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    "The indoctrination, radicalisation and grooming of Jewish kids at Jewish schools is not the limit of Zionist ambition. Zionist groups are attempting to infiltrate and co-opt all British schools. In 2021 the Secretary of State for Education, Right Honourable Gavin Williamson, sent headteachers a letter that schools should not ‘present materials in a politically biased or one-sided way’. Yet he promotes pro-Israel organisations such as Solutions Not Sides, the Community Security Trust (CST) and Forum for Discussion of Israel & Palestine (FODIP) which he claimed are ‘balanced. Each is influenced by Zionism and seeks to normalise Israel and its crimes."
    - David Miller (December 3, 2024)

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    A sobering reminder that radicalisation starts in earnest at a tender age. It's a detail-rich and informative article, and also further lays out the (sadly successful) conflation of Jewish-ness, and Zionism rampant everywhere, just as intended.

    It's long, and has many links, which I've not enabled here.

    Article source: https://www.ihrc.org.uk/how-do-we-de...itish-schools/

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    How do we De-Zionise British schools?
    As per other post-genocide projects to address the embedded ideologies that dehumanise and legitimise mass murder and wide spread atrocities, societies must in the current moment look to the de-Zionisation of their institutions. David Miller discussed why this is needed and how it might look in British schools.

    There is a Jewish school in Birmingham, where it seems that less than 20% of the pupils are Jewish. It was reported some years ago that 80% of the pupils are Muslim. At this school the pupils sing Hatikvah and celebrate the anniversary of the creation of the Zionist entity each year with blue and white bunting. It is reported that “Students learn Hebrew and recite Jewish prayers every morning. They celebrate Jewish festivals, sing Jewish songs, and eat meals cooked in a kosher kitchen.” The school also celebrates both Jewish and “Israeli” festivals. There are reportedly also “annual visits of groups of former Israeli soldiers on Yom HaZikaron”. Yom HaZikaron or Memorial day commemorates “fallen” members of the occupation forces.

    Here is a description from the Zionist press of the celebration at the school of the establishment of the settler colony from 2018.

    On Israel’s Independence Day, which this year fell on April 19, Esther Cohen, King David’s head of religious education, kicked off the ceremony in the school gym with the Modeh Ani morning prayer in Hebrew followed by the Shema Yisrael prayer.

    The student body, hand-drawn Israeli flags at their feet, dutifully recited the words. Then they closed their eyes for what Cohen called “tefillah to Hashem,” Hebrew for “prayer to God.” Most of the boys were wearing some sort of head cover — some kippahs and others the larger Muslim skullcap called taqiyah. Many girls also wore hijabs, the Muslim head cover for females.

    Cohen showed the students two videos celebrating Israeli innovation and invited them to another tefillah, this time to “thank Hashem that he gave us Israel.” She asked the students to stand up to sing “Hatikvah,” which speaks of “being a free People in Zion, Jerusalem” — almost all of them sang the Hebrew-language anthem by heart.

    Finally, the students were given permission to wave the flags after having been told not to fidget with them for the ceremony’s duration.

    It was reported in the Zionist press in July this year that only 18 of the pupils are Jewish. According to the Department for Education that is out of a total of 204 pupils in total (data last confirmed 14 August 2024).

    Shockingly, that suggests that only 8.8% of the pupils of this ”Jewish” school are Jewish. It’s not surprising that the most recent Ofsted inspection noticed that some of the Muslim parents objected to the propagation of the racist ideology of Zionism in the middle of a genocide. Even the headteacher Steve Langford admitted that while parents were “very supportive” of the school and respected its Jewish ethos “at all times,” some “have struggled with Israel’s special place in Judaism, as the biblical homeland of the Jewish people. Our Yom Ha’atzmaut celebrations took place, although scaled down due to the security situation and the absence of a key staff member.”

    There are other areas of declining Jewish population in the UK where the remaining Jewish schools have significant numbers of Protestant, Catholic or Muslim pupils. This is the case at Calderwood School in Glasgow, and at the King David School in Liverpool. At these schools too there is a Zionist ethos – as opposed to a simply Jewish faith ethos.

    Calderwood is the only Jewish school in Scotland. It was first set up in 1962 by the Zionist Federation, a strong clue to its orientation. In 1998 it was reported that, “Israel’s 50th anniversary has provided an extra celebration [at the school].

    In addition to activities on the day itself, P7 pupils have done a project and prepared a database about Glasgow people, particularly those with associations with Calderwood Lodge, who have gone to live in Israel. The school has put on a special celebratory end-of-term production, which included a traditional Israeli line dance. A “Happy Birthday Israel” banner in Hebrew takes pride of place in the school hall.” In 1998 it was reported that not all students were Jewish: “approximately 10 per cent come from other faiths including Catholic, Protestant and Muslim”. In 2012 it was reported that “up to two thirds” of the pupils were Jewish. By 2017 the Times of Israel was reporting a further sharp decline in the proportion of Jewish students to 52%.

    In Liverpool’s King David High School as of January 2023, it was reported by the Board of Deputies that, “There are 752 pupils on roll, of whom 11% are Jewish, whilst the majority are Roman Catholic (30%), Church of England (25%) [or] other Christian denominations (18%)”. Five percent of the pupils are Muslim. And yet the school insists in ramming the racist ideology of Zionism down the throats of all the pupils, Jewish and non-Jewish alike. This school has been Zionist since the beginning. It was here in 1972 that Tony Greenstein made his first steps towards anti-Zionism when he was expelled from the school.

    He reports that the school was steeped in the Zionist ethos: “we never even heard the word Palestinian”, he said. Today the ethos of the school encourages “positive identification as being part of the Jewish family, Israel etc.” Students study “Israel in Geography” have “the opportunity for Year 9 pupils to experience living at Kibbutz Lavi, as well as prospective annual trips to Israel”. There is an Israel club and tutor groups are named after “four regions of Israel”. The school marks “Israel Independence Day” and involves “an Israeli-style breakfast” and “some sort of celebration”.

    So, it appears there are Zionist schools in the UK. Who knew?

    Until the genocide in Gaza hardly anyone even noticed that this was the case, never mind said that it was a problem. But the cruel and unrelenting nature of the genocide has sparked a new and more critical interest in the role of Zionism in the UK.

    (article continues..)

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    The over-lapping triangles on the Israel flag is the Merkaba. Above all else, this figure represents the 'lost' science of the ancients.


    "...You should have some understanding of how, operating in secrecy and infiltrating every level of government and vital industry including the press, the elect manipulate the people and nations of the world toward any direction desired. I hope you caught on to the fact that the secret power structure is toward totalitarian socialist state (fascism). It is not the Nazis, as they were a product of this power structure. It is not the Jews, although some very wealthy Jews are involved. It is not the communists, as they fit the same category as the Nazis. It is not the bankers, but they do play an important role. I also hope that you are beginning to look inside yourself to see if Their reality fits. Are you getting the message?..."

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    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    Behold a Pale Horse, William Cooper, 1991, page 96.
    That quote's from Chapter 2 about secret societies, those shadowy things JFK railed against:

    Quote The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies
    April 27, 1961
    These groups aren't populated with ordinary people like you & me, ordinary Jews, ordinary Palestinians, ordinary human beings

    Cooper reiterates his fundamental message about these secret psycho societies



    The entire interview. At the 23 miniute mark, Cooper goes hard into Israel and Zionism


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    "I give lectures all over the United States. At some point before, during or after every lecture, some well-meaning but misguided soul, tells me I have it all wrong and that it's the Jews, the Catholics, the communists, or the bankers that are the cause of all our ills. The target group is blamed for everything that has ever gone wrong. Power over everyone and everything is always attributed to this group - whichever group it happens to be at that moment to that person. These poor people are on the right track, in that there has been and certainly is a conspiracy to bring about a totalitarian world order. They are completely off track to think that any one ethnic, religious, or financial group alone could ever muster enough power to bring its plan to fruition. One group, you see, would always be opposed by all of the other special-interest groups that exist and have always existed throughout history. That is, unless they were all really the same group (Illuminati) or for some reason they become unified (the Bilderberg Group).

    The one-group scenario, except for the Illuminati, has been used effectively to divert your attention away from the truth. It has caused you to fight each other in a manipulation that always leads the REAL conspiracy closer to its ultimate goal, a New World Order. Those of you who believe that Hitler was financed by the Jews so that he could murder Jews have a serious logic deficit. The fanatical leftists who tout that it's the Nazis behind the conspiracy have ignored the fact that very wealthy Jews are certainly involved, along with many Catholics, Protestants, communists, atheists, capitalists, Freemasons, etc., all of whom are diametrically opposed to each other, at least on the surface.

    ......

    The answer lies with the many faces of the Illuminati and the fact that several unifying reasons for bringing about the New World Order surfaced immediately following World War II."

    Behold A Pale Horse, William Cooper, 1991, pg 164
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    https://www.rt.com/news/621365-iran-us-nuclear-talks/

    Comment by “Andre” below the above article:

    July 12-2025

    “A research paper written by a U.S. Army major for the School of Advanced Military Studies in Fort Leavenworth, Kan., calls for Americans to lose the evangelical Christian belief of pre-millennialism because of the damage it does to the nation’s foreign interests.

    «As a result of millennarian influences on our culture, most Americans think as absolutists,» Maj. Brian L. Stuckert wrote in his 2008 course requirement at the school for military officers.

    He warns against the Christian beliefs espoused by many that the end times will involve Israel as God’s chosen nation, a final 1,000-year conflict between good and evil and an ultimate victory for God.

    Among Stuckert’s interpretations:

    «The U.S. millennial proclivity for an unqualified military defense of Israel will continue to be a potential flashpoint of great import. Both the United States and Israel believe that Iran poses a credible existential to the state of Israel – especially if it is able to develop or procure a nuclear warhead. … Because of the pre-millennial worldview, the U.S. will continue to adopt an adversarial approach to any country perceived as at odds with Israel. Since these conflicts are seen as deterministic and inevitable, there is little incentive to employ diplomacy or any other instrument of power other than the military in these situations.»

    WorldNetDaily Saturday, April 03, 2010.”

    “Real Christians know that the book of Revelation has been almost completely fulfilled. So there will be no anti Christ and fight between good and evil with the Jew as a chosen nation. Actually any so called Christian who believes that the Khazar ,Turkic Mongolian, non Semitic Jew is chosen actually denies Jesus and his mission.

    The original Israel does not exist anymore. It was judged and obliterated in the year 70 as Jesus and prophets before Him had foretold many times. So good luck with being raptured
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    There are still people who call you “antisemitic” when you expose things like what you’re showing. Even the term itself is already incorrect and misleading. I have Semitic ancestry myself, since on my father’s side my ancestors are Arabs from Syria. This world is upside down in many ways, and one of those ways has to do with this religion and people called the Jews.

    First and foremost, I want to clarify that I am not “anti-Jewish.” I know that, as a people, they have done great things for humanity. But it’s also evident that they have a role in the darker side of the world. If I had to put it in percentages (this is a subjective opinion, obviously), I would say that of the 100% of those called the Illuminati or the shadow government (referring to the Western side), 70% are Jews or are connected to them.

    The Epstein Island affair is not a minor issue, nor is the Weinstein case. And to conclude, the Talmud — which is one of the three sacred books in their religion, along with the Torah and the Zohar — says appalling and horrifying things about the goyim (goyim meaning anyone who is not Jewish).

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