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    Default A11pI3Z - Interstellar Object enters Solar System

    The interweb is abuzz with news of a new interstellar visitor, one possibly similar to Oumuamua, which entered and exited our solar system in 2017. The object is being dubbed as A11pI3Z (pronounced All Please). Very little is known about the object thus far.


    https://x.com/SciLabsEx/status/1940581056828375078


    https://x.com/kavanagh/status/1940569242426134637


    https://x.com/MAstronomers/status/1940473306995741077
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    https://x.com/clif_high/status/1940558625363448023



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    https://x.com/axhoff/status/1940621007842431250
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    The newest interstellar object has been named A11pI3Z.

    Pronounced: “All Please.”

    As in:

    “How much of Earth’s water, metal, and innocence would you like?”
    “All, please.”
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    Default Re: A11pI3Z - Interstellar Object enters Solar System

    this is huge news.
    very odd trajectory as well

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    Default Re: A11pI3Z - Interstellar Object enters Solar System

    Scott Manley discusses what (little) is known of this, mainly about the speed and the direction it came from, and it’s projected path relative to both Earth and Mars.

    The speed is the notable thing, it is a fair bit faster than Oumuamua.

    Direction it came from is about the center of our galaxy, in the direction of the constellation Sagittarius. Our big galactic “black hole” is in that area of the sky, is called “Sagittarius A-star”. Talk about a slingshot, that does it for semi-informed me.

    Scott spends a lot of time opining on how to catch up to this interloper with a rocket, which would be complicated and expensive, if even possible. ATTENTION SPACE NERDS!

    We Just Discovered The Fastest Interstellar Comet Yet - 150,000 MILES PER HOUR

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    July 3, 2025

    On July 1st the Minor Planet Center announced the discovery of a comet on a hyperbolic orbit by ATLAS, since then the orbit has been confirmed to have a hyperbolic excess of 58km/sec. This is only the 3rd interstellar object ever found and this is by far the fastest!




    Edit to add: Ben Davidson spoke about this comet on his morning show, and mentioned something that Scott Manly did not: that while at closest to Earth it will be on the other side of the Sun, BUT that we will get good sightlines to it before it gets too far out on it’s egress of the Solar system.


    Edit 2: The comet is now known as 3I/Atlas. ATLAS is a set of 4 telescopes, 2 in Hawaii, 1 in Chile, and 1 in South Africa, which are scanning/looking for asteroids which might cause us a bad day on Earth. The Chile one was the first to spot this object.

    ATLAS = Asteroid Terrestrial-impact Last Alert System.
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    Default Re: A11pI3Z - Interstellar Object enters Solar System

    It is also extremely bright. No explanation why this is so

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    Currently, A11pI3Z has been named 3I/ATLAS by the International Astronomical Union's Minor Planet Center.
    https://minorplanetcenter.net/media/...er_Jun2025.pdf

    Since Oumuamua came to the solar system, the visits of this kind of interstellar celestial body have become more frequent. This time, A11pI3Z is said to be faster than Oumuamua and is moving in the most extreme way. The world's well-known astronomical telescopes and scholars are ready to observe.
    Observer details: https://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K25/K25N12.html

    Minor Planet Center: https://www.google.com/search?sitese...t&q=3I%2FATLAS

    NASA: https://science.nasa.gov/blogs/plane...-solar-system/

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    Quote Posted by Kars (here)
    Currently, A11pI3Z has been named 3I/ATLAS by the International Astronomical Union's Minor Planet Center.
    https://minorplanetcenter.net/media/...er_Jun2025.pdf

    Since Oumuamua came to the solar system, the visits of this kind of interstellar celestial body have become more frequent. This time, A11pI3Z is said to be faster than Oumuamua and is moving in the most extreme way. The world's well-known astronomical telescopes and scholars are ready to observe.
    Observer details: https://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K25/K25N12.html

    Minor Planet Center: https://www.google.com/search?sitese...t&q=3I%2FATLAS

    NASA: https://science.nasa.gov/blogs/plane...-solar-system/

    Hi Kars, and welcome to the forum.

    There is a thread about this already, called A113IPZ - Interstellar Object Enters the Solar System.

    Quote Scott Manley discusses what (little) is known of this, mainly about the speed and the direction it came from, and its projected path relative to both Earth and Mars.

    The speed is the notable thing, it is a fair bit faster than Oumuamua.

    Direction it came from is about the center of our galaxy, in the direction of the constellation Sagittarius. Our big galactic “black hole” is in that area of the sky, is called “Sagittarius A-star”. Talk about a slingshot, that does it for semi-informed me.

    Scott spends a lot of time opining on how to catch up to this interloper with a rocket, which would be complicated and expensive, if even possible. ATTENTION SPACE NERDS!

    We Just Discovered The Fastest Interstellar Comet Yet - 150,000 MILES PER HOUR

    Scott Manley


    1.79M subscribers

    July 3, 2025

    On July 1st the Minor Planet Center announced the discovery of a comet on a hyperbolic orbit by ATLAS, since then the orbit has been confirmed to have a hyperbolic excess of 58km/sec. This is only the 3rd interstellar object ever found and this is by far the fastest!




    Edit to add: Ben Davidson spoke about this comet on his morning show, and mentioned something that Scott Manly did not: that while at closest to Earth it will be on the other side of the Sun, BUT that we will get good sightlines to it before it gets too far out on it’s egress of the Solar system.


    Edit 2: The comet is now known as 3I/Atlas. ATLAS is a set of 4 telescopes, 2 in Hawaii, 1 in Chile, and 1 in South Africa, which are scanning/looking for asteroids which might cause us a bad day on Earth. The Chile one was the first to spot this object.

    ATLAS = Asteroid Terrestrial-impact Last Alert System

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    • UPDATE! Stranger than Oumuamua! Mainstream science is hiding the strangeness of 3i Atlas! :

    Mainstream science unites in their beliefs, while repressing the facts about the Mysterious 3i Atlas. Not only that, this object, along with interstellar comet 2i Borisov, has revealed something new about Oumuamua!
    • 3I Atlas may be heading for Earth after all! Stranger than Oumuamua UPDATE!

    The story of 3I Atlas has taken a very troubling turn. If the Dark Forest theory is correct, this interstellar object is behaving in a disturbing fashion. And, sometime in early December, we could find this mysterious object on an Intercept course with our planet!
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    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    • UPDATE! Stranger than Oumuamua! Mainstream science is hiding the strangeness of 3i Atlas! :

    Mainstream science unites in their beliefs, while repressing the facts about the Mysterious 3i Atlas. Not only that, this object, along with interstellar comet 2i Borisov, has revealed something new about Oumuamua!
    This (first) vid sounds like a huckster production. Strong voice style emphasis, shaky connecting some dots, dumbass tweeker Lo-fi graphics, no references for consequential claims, repetition, just all sounds like blather.


    John K., did that escape you because of effects of your claimed Asperger’s, or because you haven’t watched the vid?

    Cheers, Sir.
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    It has been 8 years since Oumuamua appeared, the last asteroid that came from another solar system (if I’m not mistaken). Astronomically, it’s very interesting that this time they have detected this celestial object in time to analyze it with all the tools available.

    Two questions arise for me regarding knowledge related to this topic, which go along other lines connected to those of us who are aware of other aspects of reality:
    • Since it is known that for years there has been a Secret Space Program, what is really known from that perspective about the origin of the universe, dark matter, nearby inhabited worlds, asteroids like this one, etc.?
    • Is the appearance of A11pI3Z part of the entire deployment that the U.S. is showcasing related to extraterrestrial disclosure? I say this because once again some scientists are suggesting the possibility that this asteroid is actually a probe sent by another intelligent civilization.

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    Quote Posted by Irminsül (here)
    It has been 8 years since Oumuamua appeared, the last asteroid that came from another solar system (if I’m not mistaken). Astronomically, it’s very interesting that this time they have detected this celestial object in time to analyze it with all the tools available.

    Two questions arise for me regarding knowledge related to this topic, which go along other lines connected to those of us who are aware of other aspects of reality:
    • Since it is known that for years there has been a Secret Space Program, what is really known from that perspective about the origin of the universe, dark matter, nearby inhabited worlds, asteroids like this one, etc.?
    • Is the appearance of A11pI3Z part of the entire deployment that the U.S. is showcasing related to extraterrestrial disclosure? I say this because once again some scientists are suggesting the possibility that this asteroid is actually a probe sent by another intelligent civilization.
    Hi Irminsül. Am glad to see you questioning these two aspects.

    The first involves the SSP, which organization/capability is to me an unknown unknown, is something which to you is a known unknown. I would need more than I’ve seen, including the Gary McKinnon (?) interview vid.

    About what is known about the universe and the other things you mentioned, I don’t think any human military organization is going to know much. Earthly outer power is held by the dark side, which sees only opportunities to steal energy.

    You would think that aliens that got here FTL from outside our solar system, would know what’s going on. But from a solid source I read that an intended rescue/evacuation ship/craft had to post up on the far side of the Moon, to make modifications so they could exit the Solar System much more quickly. I read that 30+ years ago, and now I think it signals either a sudden Sun blowup (a la Ben Davidson’s recurring-micronova), or a nuclear war. Nuke explosions are apparently a big concern for smarter beings than us.


    2nd question still assumes SSP is true. Even if SSP is true, why would they send an object into our solar system at well above escape velocity, and zing it by Mars and not Earth?

    The thing is apparently unpowered, as it hasn’t yet set off any alarm bells by deviating from a path a comet would take.

    Cheers. 👻😳😎

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    Hi Johnny. In fact, there are quite a few more testimonies besides Gary McKinnon’s. Bill Ryan, back when he was in Project Camelot, interviewed more than one whistleblower regarding the existence of this program. Bob Lazar himself is another major witness who supports the idea that the Secret Space Program is real.

    On the other hand, the very existence of the much-talked-about TR-3Bs (sighted all over the world) is another factor to take into account. It’s true that extraterrestrial/ultraterrestrial beings have always shown deep concern regarding our activity related to nuclear wars. I wouldn’t be surprised if there are contingency plans to evacuate the solar system.

    And coming back to this “comet,” I’m sharing a video in Spanish that discusses in detail the anomalies it has that make it unlikely to be a comet. The main proponent of this theory is Avi Loeb, a renowned Harvard astrophysicist. The video in Spanish can have English subtitles enabled. I’m also including a video that shows multiple TR-3B sightings.



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    Default Re: A11pI3Z - Interstellar Object enters Solar System

    saw this posted at Clif's X today

    https://x.com/clif_high/status/1945851816073470270




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    So Avi is saying that he thinks that 3I/ATLAS is going, on Oct 30th, to hide behind our Sun where we cannot see it and do some hinkey ****...





    ATLAS Is ALIEN Technology? (The Dark Forest Mystery ft. Avi Loeb)


    11,645 views Streamed live 16 hours ago Full-length episodes of Brian Keating's Into The Impossible Podcast

    In this episode, I sit down with Harvard astrophysicist Avi Loeb to explore his provocative new article analyzing the interstellar object 3I/ATLAS — a visitor from beyond our solar system that might not be natural. 🛰️

    We dive into his recent article on Medium / is-the-interstellar-object-3i-atlas-alien-... and get into:
    • The strange anomalies in 3I/ATLAS’s orbit, size, and speed 🌌
    • How the Dark Forest Hypothesis could change the search for intelligent life 🕵️‍♂️
    • Why even unlikely cosmic risks deserve serious scientific attention 🧠
    • What Pascal’s Wager teaches us about ignoring possible extraterrestrial probes 🪐

    💥 Plus, Avi answers 5 gripping questions designed to maximize your curiosity — from the first signs of alien tech to the biggest risks humanity faces if we stay silent.

    🎧 Don’t miss this mind-expanding conversation with one of the boldest thinkers in astrophysics.

    1️⃣ “Is This Alien Tech Hiding in Plain Sight?”
    2️⃣ “The Dark Forest Theory Just Got Real”
    3️⃣ “Avi Loeb: The Alien Probe We Can’t Ignore”
    4️⃣ “3I/ATLAS: Interstellar Visitor… or Something Else?”
    5️⃣ “What If They’re Watching Us? (The 3I/ATLAS Mystery)”

    For those of you who don't know him, Avi is a professor of science at Harvard University, theoretical physicist, astrophysicist, and cosmologist. He is also a bestselling author and a dear friend of mine.

    By the time you see this, Avi will have published his new book, Interstellar: The Search for Extraterrestrial Life and Our Future in the Stars. In it, he explains why we need to become an interstellar species to ensure our survival and lays out a plan for how we can settle among the stars.

    As usual, we take some time to judge a book by its cover and discuss what went into the making of this book. We also dig into the recent Galileo Project expedition to the Pacific Ocean to retrieve spherules of the first recognized interstellar meteor, IM1, which was led by Avi, and discuss whether they found evidence of alien life.
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    Just dropped, interesting sumup and chance calculation of this "Comet" visiting 3 planets within 1au.

    Enjoy.

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    Default Re: A11pI3Z - Interstellar Object enters Solar System

    Clif's comments on the above video

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    3I/ATLAS is NOT a comet. It is NOT a natural object.

    It IS exhibiting deliberate CONCEALMENT in two specific phases of it's entry into our solar system.

    Behavioral Concealment is NEVER 'accidental' in Nature and ALWAYS betrays active intent.


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    Avi Loeb and all these astronomers are using the failed but still mainstream, flat planar model of planetary orbits. If you use the conical model of all the planets being towed behind the sun like a comet, the passage of 3I/ATLAS takes on even more interesting aspects of close proximate to the planets.



    https://x.com/clif_high/status/1946292097352601930




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    3I/ATLAS will be here in Nov 2025. i am thinking now that it does something that increase our building tension emotional values in Oct.

    That spike in first week in Oct *maybe* is financial, but if so, ALL money is dying that month. It's much easier to think it is caused by the 3I/ATLAS arrival spooking the herd.
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    Default Re: A11pI3Z - Interstellar Object enters Solar System

    Is the Interstellar Object 3I/ATLAS Alien Technology?

    Interesting read…

    https://lweb.cfa.harvard.edu/~loeb/HCL25.pdf

    Something very weird —cosmically weird— is going on. Harvard astrophysicist Avi Loeb just co-authored a scientific paper hypothetically suggesting that the newly discovered interstellar object 3I/ATLAS might not be a rock at all. It might be… alien technology. He drafted a formal paper, pre-published on his Substack, and titled “Is the Interstellar Object 3I/ATLAS Alien Technology?” Secure your grey alien Halloween mask, fasten your tinfoil hat, and prepare for turbulence.

    Before you roll your eyes: Avi Loeb isn’t some wild-eyed crank on late-night AM radio. He’s the former chair of Harvard’s astronomy department, former member of the President’s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology, and lead scientist of the Galileo Project. He’s a credentialed establishment figure—who just called for humanity to seriously consider that this object may evidence intent.

    To be fair, Avi also recently published a lay-targeting but science-heavy book speculating about alien origins of our very first interstellar visitor, Oumuamua. Here’s the link to Avi’s slightly more lay-friendly Substack summary of his new paper.


    The terrifying punchline is that Avi thinks evidence suggests there is a tiny but greater-than-zero possibility that 3i/Atlas is a weapon meant to destroy the Earth. Seriously. Using science. And he cited Pascal’s Wager to justify going public with his concerns. It’s better to be wrong and discredited than wrong and dead.

    🛸 Avi found at least seven bizarre features of the new intergalactic visitor that he finds improbable if it were just an accidental bit of space flotsam or jetsam. First, it came from the direction of the Galactic Core, which sounds unremarkable until you put on suspicious 3-D eyeglasses. Since it flew in from that particular star-dense section of space, we couldn’t see it until it was too late to mount an interception probe.


    That’s … odd, but it doesn’t prove anything. But it gets a lot odder.

    Next, Atlas’s “random” trajectory defies probability. If it were just a random bit of space debris, it could have entered the Solar System from any angle and any direction. So … why is it making a close fly-by of three planets (Jupiter, Mars, and Venus) and the Sun? It seems to be surveying half the system. Avi calculated the odds of this happening by chance at under 0.005%.

    Avi wonders whether it could be probing those three planets. It’s passing each of them well within reach of one of our ICBMs.


    It is massive. The best guesses put it around 20 kilometers wide, which is the size of a small city. It’s 200 times bigger than 2017’s first interstellar visitor, Oumuamua. The significance of its size is that if these types of interstellar objects are common —regardless of size— we should have seen millions by now. Before 2017, we never even saw one. The astronomical history books are being rewritten in real time.

    This next point is wonkier. Atlas is traveling in a retrograde plane, meaning the opposite direction from everything else in the Solar System. If it is orbiting the Sun on some kind of vast orbit, it is hard to explain this retrograde motion without special pleading.

    It is fast. It is going three times faster than our fastest rocket. We now have no hope of catching up to it.

    Finally, and most troubling for Mr. Loeb, Atlas is aimed to pass very close to the Sun, just like Oumuamua. The chances defy description. And most suggestively, it will pass the Sun on the exact opposite side from Earth— the only place we can’t see it. And Avi has a theory.

    Next, Atlas’s “random” trajectory defies probability. If it were just a random bit of space debris, it could have entered the Solar System from any angle and any direction. So … why is it making a close fly-by of three planets (Jupiter, Mars, and Venus) and the Sun? It seems to be surveying half the system. Avi calculated the odds of this happening by chance at under 0.005%.

    Avi wonders whether it could be probing those three planets. It’s passing each of them well within reach of one of our ICBMs.


    It is massive. The best guesses put it around 20 kilometers wide, which is the size of a small city. It’s 200 times bigger than 2017’s first interstellar visitor, Oumuamua. The significance of its size is that if these types of interstellar objects are common —regardless of size— we should have seen millions by now. Before 2017, we never even saw one. The astronomical history books are being rewritten in real time.

    This next point is wonkier. Atlas is traveling in a retrograde plane, meaning the opposite direction from everything else in the Solar System. If it is orbiting the Sun on some kind of vast orbit, it is hard to explain this retrograde motion without special pleading.

    It is fast. It is going three times faster than our fastest rocket. We now have no hope of catching up to it.

    Finally, and most troubling for Mr. Loeb, Atlas is aimed to pass very close to the Sun, just like Oumuamua. The chances defy description. And most suggestively, it will pass the Sun on the exact opposite side from Earth— the only place we can’t see it. And Avi has a theory.

    It’s not a sci-fi concept. It’s real physics— and is exactly the kind of maneuver you’d expect an interstellar probe to use if it wanted to stop, stay, or quietly redirect. Here’s where things get really spooky.

    🛸 Just for fun, since this is what our Harvard astrophysicist is doing, let’s stack the “ifs”:

    If 3I/ATLAS is a probe that was sent, not a wandering rock;
    if it deliberately flew in from the crowded backdrop of the galactic core, where early detection is almost impossible;
    if it timed its arrival to thread a corridor past Venus, Mars, and Jupiter;
    if it passed perihelion precisely behind the Sun, right where no telescope on Earth can track it; and
    if it used that moment to execute a reverse Oberth maneuver, bleeding velocity to shift into a new trajectory…
    … then we have a very different situation on our hands. We’re not dealing with a space rock.

    Here comes the kick-in-the-delicates: what if, as it braked passing the Sun, it swung around the star and headed right for Earth? It would be invisible. We wouldn’t see it until it was almost here. The Sun is so bright, so overwhelming, that any small, dark object coming straight at us from the solar direction would remain hidden until it was practically pulling up at the White House.


    If that’s the case, the most significant close encounter in human history could already be underway— and we wouldn’t know until the mother ship makes its big announcement.

    Loeb easily conceded the possibility of an attack on Earth is vanishingly small, and admitted there’s probably not much we could do to stop it anyway, but given the stakes, he wants governments to start preparing now. It’s Pascal again. It would be better to waste a few billion on nothing than be caught flat-footed if it’s something and wished we’d taken the signs more seriously.

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    Maybe it’s nothing. Maybe 3I/ATLAS is just a weird, oversized rock doing weird, oversized rock things. But if it’s not? If it’s something else —something watching, waiting, maybe braking— then we’re living at the end of Planet Earth Act I. And when the lights come up, it won’t be flying saucers over the Washington Monument or Martians with ray guns yelling “Ack ack!” It’ll be silent, surgical, and by surprise. The real War of the Worlds won’t begin with a broadcast. It’ll begin with a shadow sliding out from behind the Sun.

    Remember Revelation 8:8? I just mentioned it last week, dismissing the comet theory. But now? “And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea…” Now it sounds plausible again. And technically speaking, 3i/Atlas isn’t a comet.


    Having indulged once again in that most human of pastimes —electrifying speculation about imminent doom— we should now reattach ourselves, however reluctantly (or gratefully), to reality: the least likely outcome is that 3I/ATLAS is any kind of actual threat. Odds are, it’s just a rock. A weird, spookily-aimed, Sun-skimming rock with the narrative timing of a Bond villain, sure. But still just a rock.

    And yet. Yet, here we are, calmly discussing, in scientific literature, the orbital maneuverability of a possible alien probe. That, in itself, is bonkers. The real story might not be what Atlas is. It’s that we’re now rationally asking the question.

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