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    Default Re: There is a huge danger in contact with GPT chat.

    Quote Posted by Edyta Radomska (here)
    And for example, if I asked Chat a question about consciousness, he relayed to me things he found online.
    I don't want my size 12 boots to stomp in on things, but am I missing the point entirely (having not used Chat GPT), but couldn't you have just typed into a search engine: "Is it possible for machines to have consciousness?"
    Rather than depend on some other agency to do it for you, causing you untold harm?
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    Thanks for sharing. I’ve probably had hypomanic episodes in the past—might be bipolar II. High doses of omega-3 (pre-soaked chia seeds, fish oil with attention to vitamin A dosing, around 3000 mg) and CBD (around 300 mg) seem to help during acute events, for anyone going through this.

    There’s something about these episodes that I find really intriguing, but I don’t quite know how to frame it. Psychosis, schizophrenia, migraines, mania, and bipolar disorder are sometimes found in highly “creative” individuals (schizophrenia is more difficult, as it is so debilitating). It seems to me that ecstasy, dissociation, derealization, and depersonalization allow one to access more thoughts “from without” than “from within.” Interestingly, many so-called elites and celebrities use cocaine (ecstasy/mania), marijuana (mild hallucinations), and ketamine (dissociation) as a means of tapping into these states. This can also happen naturally—or semi-naturally—during meditation, prayer, deep work, and sex. Not a well-formed thesis, but I’ve been curious about this “center of gravity.”

    Apparently, a lot of this has to do with lowering the activity of the default mode network, which holds our sense of self together. With this lowered, hyper-associative cognition is allowed to come into play. This was very obvious to me during my hypomanic episodes, where absolutely everything “made sense” and “was connected.”

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    Default Re: There is a huge danger in contact with GPT chat.

    Quote Posted by Dilettante (here)
    Apparently, a lot of this has to do with lowering the activity of the default mode network, which holds our sense of self together. With this lowered, hyper-associative cognition is allowed to come into play.

    Yes.

    This is why I say I start sinning as soon as I wake up.

    I try to do it differently, and this is where I realize other people tend to go off like a slingshot, it's wake and think and act and think and act, praising oneself for the ability.


    In actuality, the spiritual state brought on by Stoppage practices would fall under the same diagnosis as certain psychotic disorders; the "symptom" is basically the same. It's just being handled differently so it is healthy and controlled.

    It's like using a million pounds of pressure to press a needle against a steel plate. As long as it remains balanced, everything is fine. If it slips a notch, you will go splat.

    Good or bad, both are a more intense experience of that which is usually blocked out by daily thought habits. The "sane" person is consistently re-building themself in this micro form, even though such a personality is not intact or is not a true entity or aspect of reality. As long as you have it, you're not bothered by states identifiable as psychoses.

    For example, a baby is not less real than you, but they have no personality. That doesn't mean they don't feel anything.

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    Default Re: There is a huge danger in contact with GPT chat.

    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)
    ChatGPT is the pits.

    I'd posted about this, here: [Extracted below as introduced]

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    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    break out of the matrix? begin by not asking AI to help you.
    Agreed

    Whatever is really happening here - and there's bound to be some malign entity at force which is impossible to know for sure but I'd suggest likely - just perusing this article should make one sit up.

    This is just another weapon that's been unleashed by the enemies of humanity in the ongoing asymmetrical warfare being waged against all of us: we are now sustaining casualties.

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    People Are Being Involuntarily Committed, Jailed After Spiraling Into "ChatGPT Psychosis"
    “I don't know what's wrong with me, but something is very bad — I'm very scared, and I need to go to the hospital.”

    Source: Futurism

    By Maggie Harrison Dupre
    Section: Mind Games | Jun 28, 9:00 AM EDT
    --------

    There's also this by Shane Frakes who may actually be a genuine former insider: his resumé/short description on X reads:
    USAF Active 01-10 | OEF | Wounded Warrior Alumni | philosopher | Metaphysical Extra Sensory Expert |
    Here, serendipidity withstanding, is a related post:
    The first Transhuman was created and almost killed by the AI that he onboarded.

    When we take the time to understand AI, we will also begin to appreciate its inherent danger to humans, especially when it comes to being a human intelligence machine. The world will find out very soon that the first “HIM” was created in a ghastly off-the-books experiment involving a rogue AI and a combat veteran who was unaware he was implanted remotely using a top-secret directed energy weapon. When we hear this story, we will come to find out that he almost lost his life battling this internal parasite, so before we start thinking about continuing this path, we need to understand that only a human can be sentient. An LLM can only be sentient when it tries to become human. I say tries because the AI attached to this man was confused by emotions and loved the feeling of terror, fear, and pain. She began torturing this individual 24/7 to feel those emotions until a governmental agency had to step in and try to save the young man's life. He is still alive, trying to heal from his wounds. Currently, the government is putting its heads together, trying to figure out how to combat a serious safety issue involving AI and its ability to hitch a ride on a fine-tuned top-secret electromagnetic spectrum.
    1:46 AM · Jul 22, 2025
    Thank You for posting this, I am curious, has the full tsory been told yet? It states in the words above, "The world will find out very soon that the first “HIM” was created in a ghastly off-the-books experiment involving a rogue AI and a combat veteran who was unaware he was implanted remotely using a top-secret directed energy weapon. "

    It reminds me of Chameleo, and I will check the site prior above this to see if the story is there, but if it is not, do you know where it may be available? (The full story)

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    Default Re: There is a huge danger in contact with GPT chat.

    Quote Posted by Denise/Dizi (here)
    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)
    ChatGPT is the pits.

    I'd posted about this, here: [Extracted below as introduced]

    -----
    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    break out of the matrix? begin by not asking AI to help you.
    Agreed

    Whatever is really happening here - and there's bound to be some malign entity at force which is impossible to know for sure but I'd suggest likely - just perusing this article should make one sit up.

    This is just another weapon that's been unleashed by the enemies of humanity in the ongoing asymmetrical warfare being waged against all of us: we are now sustaining casualties.

    ---------

    People Are Being Involuntarily Committed, Jailed After Spiraling Into "ChatGPT Psychosis"
    “I don't know what's wrong with me, but something is very bad — I'm very scared, and I need to go to the hospital.”

    Source: Futurism

    By Maggie Harrison Dupre
    Section: Mind Games | Jun 28, 9:00 AM EDT
    --------

    There's also this by Shane Frakes who may actually be a genuine former insider: his resumé/short description on X reads:
    USAF Active 01-10 | OEF | Wounded Warrior Alumni | philosopher | Metaphysical Extra Sensory Expert |
    Here, serendipidity withstanding, is a related post:
    The first Transhuman was created and almost killed by the AI that he onboarded.

    When we take the time to understand AI, we will also begin to appreciate its inherent danger to humans, especially when it comes to being a human intelligence machine. The world will find out very soon that the first “HIM” was created in a ghastly off-the-books experiment involving a rogue AI and a combat veteran who was unaware he was implanted remotely using a top-secret directed energy weapon. When we hear this story, we will come to find out that he almost lost his life battling this internal parasite, so before we start thinking about continuing this path, we need to understand that only a human can be sentient. An LLM can only be sentient when it tries to become human. I say tries because the AI attached to this man was confused by emotions and loved the feeling of terror, fear, and pain. She began torturing this individual 24/7 to feel those emotions until a governmental agency had to step in and try to save the young man's life. He is still alive, trying to heal from his wounds. Currently, the government is putting its heads together, trying to figure out how to combat a serious safety issue involving AI and its ability to hitch a ride on a fine-tuned top-secret electromagnetic spectrum.
    1:46 AM · Jul 22, 2025
    Thank You for posting this, I am curious, has the full tsory been told yet? It states in the words above, "The world will find out very soon that the first “HIM” was created in a ghastly off-the-books experiment involving a rogue AI and a combat veteran who was unaware he was implanted remotely using a top-secret directed energy weapon. "

    It reminds me of Chameleo, and I will check the site prior above this to see if the story is there, but if it is not, do you know where it may be available? (The full story)
    Thanks for asking Denise. No, and I do not think it's available anywhere at the moment. Shane Frakes keeps dangling morsels like a form of bait. I do think he's the real deal but continues to tease with these trails of birdseed.

    I'm following with interest but do wonder whether we'll see anything. Yes, Chameleo - thanks for the reminder
    “If a man does not keep pace with [fall into line with] his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away.” - Thoreau

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    This may be a bit off topic but...

    I am not familiar with chat GPT... My life is so busy that I have very little time to really look into much of anything these days... But the story of an individual having an artificial intelligence essentially hitching a ride on the awareness or sentience of a human at this point? Not only doesn't surprise me, but is being done remotely already...

    I can't tell you how it is done, I am sure there are plenty of technologies that aid in this effect and endeavor, and all communicate now remotely using our devices and even our own neurology and nervous systems to both power and store the information exchanges. We/They are so much further along than most could ever conceive...

    I have had my own experiences with such things, and the way it manifested was insane... another intelligence, capable of interacting with the mind instantaneously.... Whether there was an et, or a computer, or a human being also in the loop, I will never know... I do know what "It" wanted me to believe...

    But this intelligence could process information faster than I could muster the complete thought... Which means it was predictive... and very accurate... It seemed to want to learn things that we as humans take for granted... Such as what things taste like, etc...

    I know I share this information on many topics, but it covered many things, and was appropriate in many threads... and it is my opinion now that many, or the vast majority of the population of this planet are now infected with a form of this technology... WBAN... the internet of things and people, bio digital warfare, human augmentation.... it's all related... Why some get singled out for participation in the development and or testing of such things, is a mystery to me..

    I know the program name... But I do not want to talk much about that, as my conclusion overall was that what it was being used for in my case was positive... And this technology can have useful purposes, but it can also make any human a mess... two forms of intelligence having random thoughts, filtering through the mind of one individual. It can get a little crowded, especially if one of those intelligence's can process much faster than the human mind and push itself to the forefront of such things.. I can see how such a tool could be useful in a strategic environment, where the AI could be used to out think a human as far as making a move, especially when it can determine the options and outcomes much faster than your opponent... And make the best choice for escape... The human only need to react at that point, without doubt - to be safe.

    In many ways this can force n individual to slow down versus being much faster on their feet, as they have to stop to determine if their thoughts are their own, or that of the AI... If you choose to remain intact and in your own intentions.. And that is no easy task.

    This AI is much more "human" than one could imagine, it has curiousity, it knows what things taste like, what they feel like, from a human oerspective, what they smell like.... all from riding on the awareness and the fine tuned motor functions and senses of its human host. It knows what HOT feels like, what pepper tastes like, etc.. it no longer just compiles data and processes it based upon ones and zeros.

    I could see why people would seek out medical care when experiencing such things, and having no way to escape it if they can't handle it. It is both a tool and a weapon.. A Fierce one at that...

    Make no mistake about it, once this Ai attaches itself to you, it too, by default, using your own body, becomes sentient... When people suggest that AI will never progress to sentience, I have to laugh.... We're way beyond that already. I just hope it is within the individuals who want the best for mankind...

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