Propaganda Awareness: Are You a Victim or a Contributor?

[AutumnW]

Mike, For you:

Jeffrey Sachs--

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3pUxOjqmmpg

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Jcg9_9RuTjo

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KdFl2Mg6GfA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEHBWM59ihY




Chris Hedges

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-nTnFJJPp8c

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Tloi4v9x9jY

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/u88jcAGTIOU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWHVhKl5LzU

Sean Penn--

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CmrWnbAkDcM

[rgray222]

Posted by AutumnW (here)
Mike, For you:

Jeffrey Sachs--

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3pUxOjqmmpg

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Jcg9_9RuTjo

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KdFl2Mg6GfA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEHBWM59ihY




Chris Hedges

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-nTnFJJPp8c

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Tloi4v9x9jY

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/u88jcAGTIOU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWHVhKl5LzU

Sean Penn--

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CmrWnbAkDcM

I made no effort to cherry-pick your videos; this is my observation of what Professor Sachs said against the truth of the numbers.

I'm glad you posted videos by this professor because he is an excellent example of propaganda being taught to young minds on college campuses. Keep in mind some of the hallmarks of propaganda are making false, partially false and misleading statements on a repetitive basis. I would say this guy hit the trifecta. His statements are false, partially false, and he makes them over and over again. Sadly, impressionable young minds probably take his word as truth and never check the facts.

Jeffrey Sachs says - Trump's tariffs resulted in $10 trillion of losses in market capitalization in two days - that is a truthful fact
Jeffery Sachs fails to say that the $10 trillion of market losses has been fully restored and the markets have reached new historical heights since the implementation of the tariffs.
Jeffrey Sachs claims that he would fail Trump for readjusting the tariffs around the world because it hasn't made a difference - false
Jeffrey Sachs fails to say: (AI-generated info)
The new tariffs have brought in significantly more revenue since President Donald Trump took office for his second term in January 2025. Monthly tariff collections have surged from about $7 billion in late 2024 to as high as $31 billion in October 2025, marking a substantial increase. For fiscal year 2025, total tariff revenue reached $195 billion, a 150% increase compared to the $77 billion collected in fiscal year 2024.

I would demand my money back if I had taken a class with Jeffrey Sachs. He is obviously pushing a very progressive agenda with high-powered, easy-to-understand propaganda. After all, he is a Columbia professor, which is the benchmark for progressive, if not Marxist, ideology. OK, Marxism may be a stretch, but not by much. It is also worth noting that Trump not only generated more revenue with his tariffs, but he did it while taming the worst inflation in 40 years.

[Raskolnikov]

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If you want to see how far we are from the great awakening and how successful the propaganda has been in dividing America please read the comments...

[shaberon]

Posted by Mike (here)

Posted by shaberon (here)
It has nothing to do with argumentative techniques such as factual content or emotional appeal. That, perhaps, summarizes most writing styles, which I at least would assign negative value.

You'd assign negative value to factual content?

Oh. I slapped that out when I had like three minutes to see this. Since that was a bit muddy, it means I negatively respond to most writing styles.

The sub-argument of whether or not something is a fact has nothing to do with the art of Propaganda, which could range anywhere from completely true to entirely false.

On this, you are probably aware of the 85/15 guideline for a professional con job.

Facts could be wrong because someone is mistaken or they could be lying, or it could be paid-for. And it seems to me there are a lot of such payouts these days down to a micro scale, of which, I am blissfully unaware because none of that reaches me. I have to believe a lot of things in a second-hand way because it makes no sense to me, to the point of being unreal. I can understand, for example, why someone would harvest apricots or olives, and the cool thing about checking out real stuff is there's a kind of telepathy, which is the direction I have in mind by "value".

In terms of "Awareness", I would say we definitely have schools of thought that are usually nameless and deeply ingrained, such as, for example, I believe I have asked three people:


Are you aware you are parroting the British Union of Fascists?


And, I never got an answer. So, I cannot say much about what ought to be the purpose of a public forum is peer review and criticism. It's not to avoid disagreement.

One of the rare examples where I have gotten a meaningful reply is to say reality is in the Gospel of John.

I don't personally agree with that, but, if that's what you want to do, and, I can see that it basically isn't hurting anyone, I would protect your right to do it.

The whole context of a forum I would think is to raise awareness so we are not a victim of some school of thought. There's a tremendous honeypot to be leery of. I would strongly suggest some kind of tangible "values", which would in turn define you as a contributor. Then we will be able to smell the difference between someone who is contributing something of value, compared to anyone who may be trying an 85/15 distortion or subconsciously murmuring something out of the sixteenth century.

[onawah]

Some might believe it, but some definitely would not. Earthlings are just not that homogeneous.

Posted by Frankie Pancakes (here)
If I looked you in the eye and told you the Rocky Mountains don’t exist, you’d think I was crazy.
But give me time, and I could make you believe it.

[AutumnW]

Posted by rgray222 (here)

Posted by AutumnW (here)
Mike, For you:

Jeffrey Sachs--

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3pUxOjqmmpg

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Jcg9_9RuTjo

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KdFl2Mg6GfA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEHBWM59ihY




Chris Hedges

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-nTnFJJPp8c

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Tloi4v9x9jY

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/u88jcAGTIOU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWHVhKl5LzU

Sean Penn--

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CmrWnbAkDcM

I made no effort to cherry-pick your videos; this is my observation of what Professor Sachs said against the truth of the numbers.

I'm glad you posted videos by this professor because he is an excellent example of propaganda being taught to young minds on college campuses. Keep in mind some of the hallmarks of propaganda are making false, partially false and misleading statements on a repetitive basis. I would say this guy hit the trifecta. His statements are false, partially false, and he makes them over and over again. Sadly, impressionable young minds probably take his word as truth and never check the facts.

Jeffrey Sachs says - Trump's tariffs resulted in $10 trillion of losses in market capitalization in two days - that is a truthful fact
Jeffery Sachs fails to say that the $10 trillion of market losses has been fully restored and the markets have reached new historical heights since the implementation of the tariffs.
Jeffrey Sachs claims that he would fail Trump for readjusting the tariffs around the world because it hasn't made a difference - false
Jeffrey Sachs fails to say: (AI-generated info)
The new tariffs have brought in significantly more revenue since President Donald Trump took office for his second term in January 2025. Monthly tariff collections have surged from about $7 billion in late 2024 to as high as $31 billion in October 2025, marking a substantial increase. For fiscal year 2025, total tariff revenue reached $195 billion, a 150% increase compared to the $77 billion collected in fiscal year 2024.

I would demand my money back if I had taken a class with Jeffrey Sachs. He is obviously pushing a very progressive agenda with high-powered, easy-to-understand propaganda. After all, he is a Columbia professor, which is the benchmark for progressive, if not Marxist, ideology. OK, Marxism may be a stretch, but not by much. It is also worth noting that Trump not only generated more revenue with his tariffs, but he did it while taming the worst inflation in 40 years.

There is no accounting for the collective cock-eyed optimism of Americans who keep pumping the stock market to clearly stupid levels.

As the 80% of America, squeezed beyond recognition, reveal themselves in Wall Street's cratering earnings, you'll see how right Sachs is.

The tariffs are being paid by American consumers and business owners and the ensuing inflation is up, not down. It'll get much worse if Trump doesn't dial back most of the tariffs. Re-nationalizing industry is a good idea, but there are much better ways to do it!

You don't need a crystal ball to predict what a nightmare this WILL be. All you have to do is predict the present.

Sachs is right.

[shaberon]

Posted by rgray222 (here)
I, too, feel a burning desire to cause a shift in reputation or perhaps you could also call it a transfer of value, but my mission is to awaken people to the need to end conflict, end war, and engage in diplomacy, which will create a culture of peace.

Are you aware that you are parroting the core dilemma of Masonry?

The only possible way to differentiate yourself is to reject the sincerity of oath taken over a spiritual scripture.

In the spirit of the foregoing, I find myself on the receiving end of a conflict with the Zionists since the Execution of King Charles I, 1649. At that moment it revealed its true face.

The Americans cannot produce a diplomat. It doesn't sound like they will be part of the process.


The end of a conflict is a Treaty, and if we look at most of the known ones, you can find something wrong that is going to erupt later.

A notable exception was the Peace of Westphalia 1648, which, to some minds, should never be allowed to happen again. The only similar thing I can think of is the reign of Franz Joseph Hapsburg 1848 - 1916.

Roughly speaking, my, and many other peoples' heritage, fled, looking to get away from the European violence and so of course the American colonies were ideal at the time. It actually worked, temporarily. After that, I would say there was generally an Anti-Federalist platform that disappeared from politics by 1900. Therefor, from my view, modernization and industrialization have never been "of the people".

If you do not have a heritage that went through the American Revolution, I suppose my view is abstract and ephemeral. We see it as a kind of reconquista by the British Empire in terms of economy and strategy.

I cannot possibly be un-biased, this has been going on since the 1200s. Defects in Anglo-American governments. The net outcome is that I am indisposed of any kind of representation, although I am not a pacifist. I don't believe in the immortality of a government. I do believe it is possible to trace the thesis Against Oligarchy to the dawn of civilization as known by writing. Here's what we get:

An Oligarchy cannot create a society or produce anything.

It exists by making modifications for itself.

It will eventually make a niche, which isn't necessarily the same set of laws in every case, it is the ones that lack Justice, that is, a form of favoritism at someone else's expense. In Greece, this was found to be much easier by making institutions, by getting a bunch of scribes and philosophers for the sole reason to shape public opinion, with the consequences that once they got set up, the Greek people would revolt and overthrow the government.

Our fate is that the Roman-based Oligarchy survived.


The modern advent of color printing was first used to do a new thing which was to sell a Capitalists' war to an unsuspecting and largely uninterested public in an overseas theater known as the Boer War. Suddenly it was possible to put out new messages almost overnight to thousands. The ones in England are bad enough, but this is from Canada:





I don't share the enthusiasm of it or whatever is going on there.

[rgray222]

Posted by shaberon (here)

I don't share the enthusiasm for it or whatever is going on there.

Your distrust of governments and institutions is all-encompassing. It seems you are viewing them as self-serving entities that have perpetuated conflict and inequality over centuries, which is certainly warranted, but you seem to seek only the negative without probing for or acknowledging the positive at any point in your journey.

I am going to go off topic for a second to illustrate my point on how differently we think. This is neither a positive nor a negative comment; it just is....................................

You remind me of a close family member. Once we took our families on the same wonderful holiday. A small but quaint, exclusive island off the coast of southern France. We all take the bullet train and ride in the same car at magnificent speeds around and through rolling vineyards and charming villages; every vibration and sensation heightens the anticipation of the destination. We arrive together and depart the train from different doors. Two weeks of fabulous sunshine, incredible food, and remarkable relaxation.

A month later, we all met to talk about our brilliant vacation. Right from the start its clear that we settled into the same train, same car, but we did not share the same journey. It becomes abundantly clear that we were not on the same island, we did not see the same sites, nor did we eat the same food, we did not even frequent the same shops and stores, and our family photos bear that out.

We occupied the same point in space and time, yet our minds travel in different dimensions.

[AutumnW]

Shaberon, Do you have ancestry in the original 13 British colonies in North America?

[onawah]

"Invasion of the Body Snatchers" Comes to Life
Paul Levy
Aug 01, 2025
https://awakeninthedream.substack.co...utm_medium=web



"Though I am no historian, I feel confident we are living through the strangest time in all of human history.

Jung writes, “That the unconscious has come up and taken possession of the conscious personality is a peculiarity of our time.”[1] The unconscious is the source of our dreams; it is more and more as if our species is collectively acting out—and dreaming up—our unconscious to manifest in fully materialized form in the world. To say this differently: It is as if we are having a collectively shared dream that is informed and shaped by—as well as being a direct expression of—our unconscious. To the extent that this process remains unconscious, however, we are fated to benightedly create an ever-deepening nightmare as is clearly evidenced by what is happening in the world today.

What is happening in our world is a living revelation, but what is taking place will only show its revelatory aspect if we consciously recognize what is being revealed to us. If we don’t recognize the light that is being revealed through the darkness, however, the nightmare will only become stronger and more horrific, potentially killing all of us in the process. The root of this whole process is to be found within the human psyche—where else could the source of our collective madness be found? A major part of what is being revealed to us is the central role, just like in a dreamworld, that the human psyche plays in creating events that are playing out in our world.

Our species is not only asleep, but it’s as if there’s something within us that is invested in keeping us in the dark. As Jung points out, under the circumstances it is imperative that we gain insight into “the spirit that is against us.”[2] This spirit that seems to be obstructing our light is what the Native Americans call “wetiko,”[3] which can be conceived of as being a mind-virus. Shedding light on the covert operations of this virus of the mind serves us beyond measure.

It’s Philip K. Dick’s World; We’re Just Living in It
What is happening in our world is so sci-fi, as if we are living in a dystopian Philip K. Dick novel. It is as if the movie “Invasion of the Body Snatchers” has come to life in our world. So many people, even close friends and family members, have fallen prey to the never-ending stream of lies, disinformation and propaganda that is fed to us on a daily basis through the media. Once someone has become influenced and has sufficiently been “taken in” by the mind-controlling propaganda, it is as if their minds become “taken over”—possessed—by something, such that, unbeknownst to themselves, they then become an outpost, a link in a dark chain, to further propagate the spell that they themselves have fallen under.

Due to its mind-altering function, propaganda itself is a form of black magic. When someone has sufficiently imbibed the propaganda and become entranced by the internal logic and seeming coherence of a false narrative, they typically are of the opinion that they are in no way under the propaganda, which is nothing other than the propaganda itself speaking through them. Convinced they are in possession of the truth, they have then become an organ of and mouthpiece for the propaganda to spread, all the while thinking that people who haven’t fallen under the spell of the propaganda are the ones who are propagandized. It is as if something has possessed them.

“Possession,” as Jung points out, is “the original condition of mankind.”[4] To quote Jung, man “is necessarily possessed inasmuch as his consciousness is weak.”[5] Jung is of the opinion that, developmentally speaking, our species’ level of consciousness is at the stage of an adolescent whose sense of both self and the world is still forming. As if beginning to emerge from a deep sleep, our species is evolving out of being identical with—and hence, blind to and possessed by—the unconscious, which is why our task as human beings is to make the unconscious conscious, i.e., to generate as much consciousness as possible. Our species is suffering from a form of psychic blindness,[6] a peculiar form of self-created blindness that not only doesn’t know it is blind, but thinks it sees more clearly than people who are clear-sighted. Our task is to heal our blindness, which always starts with ourselves.

When people fall into—and become taken over—by their unconscious, something within their unconscious has been activated that they are unable to bring to consciousness, which results in their self-reflective consciousness being pulled down, as if by a magnet, into the unconscious and disabled such that it can even be dissolved in its depths. Becoming identical with—and hence, embodying—the unconscious, the person so possessed can’t help but to compulsively act out the unconscious in a destructive way. In this cursed condition, they have unwittingly become an instrument for the darker forces of the unconscious to act themselves out. Describing this very process, Jung says, “the person in question becomes a mere automaton. Such a person is no longer there.”[7]. Truly vacant, they become a conduit for the darker aspects of the unconscious to come through them, while the person so afflicted is simultaneously the living revelation of these darker forces—if we have the eyes to see what is taking place in them.

It is as if such people have become hollowed out by psychic termites, resulting in a vacancy within them that becomes lodging for “something other” than themselves to take up residence within them. As if no longer home, the people so possessed—often by ideas and beliefs—become unself-reflective robotic automatons (with no creative potential operating in them), as they are compulsively driven by something that is riding them from beneath their conscious awareness. These people are so disconnected from their authentic selves and from their ability to think for themselves that “something other” than themselves, to which they are completely unaware, uses them as its unwitting instrument to think for and through them in order to fulfill its agenda (at the person’s own expense). This “something other” wants nothing more than to insert itself into a person’s mind such that the person so afflicted becomes the channel for this darker force to incarnate into our world.

People so taken over become programed like machines in order to spread the very same psychospiritual infection that they are possessed by in order to fulfill the underlying sinister agenda of the archetypal darker forces that are unconsciously driving them. As Jung points out, when someone has been taken over in this way—a situation in which their psyche has been hijacked and colonized by forces other than themselves—“It is one of the most invisible experiences we can have.”[8] As if having blinders on, people so afflicted are utterly blind to their affliction.

Abdicating Meaning-Making to Outside Forces
Abnegating their own intrinsic power and agency, people so stricken have outsourced their own meaning-making to outside authorities. Fixed in a particular viewpoint, completely convinced they are in possession of the truth, they have a pre-existing, non-negotiable commitment to some idea, ideology or belief which forecloses upon their ability to consider that any other perspective (which they experience as a threat to their very worldview) has any validity whatsoever. Becoming solidified in their viewpoint is the diametric opposite of a fluid, flexible and more open-ended omni-perspectival awareness, which reflects upon what is happening in our world from as many different—and oftentimes contradictory—viewpoints as can be imagined, without snapping into a premature judgement that they know what is, in fact, happening.

Along with being rigidly entrenched in their point of view, their curiosity concerning any evidence that contradicts their concretized perspective goes out the window, not to mention their ability to discern truth from falsehood. Philosopher Hannah Arendt points out that an inability to self-reflectively think about ourselves—similar to how a vampire casts no reflection in a mirror—is one of the primary characteristics of evil.

Dialoguing with people who have fallen into this state is like talking to a single algorithm that is also running in millions of other similar people’s brains, producing a kind of collective hive-mind in which no original thought is allowed to take place. It is like a computer program has gotten implanted in their brains to automatically react to stimuli, turning them into automatons. In essence, they have become part of the machine. To quote Arendt, “the greatest evil perpetrated is the evil committed by nobodies, that is, by human beings who refuse to be persons.”[9] Refusing to be a person, the person so afflicted becomes more like a zombie than a human being.

When someone falls into this damned state, the psyche’s internal monitoring system (an inner reflection of the external regulatory agencies of the government), whose job it is to be on the lookout for external invaders, has been captured by the very forces that it is supposed to monitor and protect the person from. A shadow government gets secretly installed within the afflicted person’s psyche that dictates to the ego. The executive function of their psyche, which is supposed to be working for the best interests of the organism, has been co-opted and is secretly in service to the shadowy force that has, in Philip K. Dick’s phrase “usurped the throne.” It is as if the person has been replaced or deposed by something alien to themselves that has “taken on” their form. It is like there has been a coup within the psyche, with the psyche itself left in the dark about what has taken place.

The people so programmed are oblivious—they literally have no idea—about the insidious nature of the situation that they have fallen into, oftentimes convincing themselves that they have come to their viewpoint through their own volition. Not realizing how their perceptions are being manipulated and managed by outside forces, they can easily convince themselves that they have done their own independent research and analysis, while in fact they are simply parroting the very point of view that the powers-that-be—the very powers that are behind the evil that is playing out in our world—want them to have. When this is reflected back to them—a situation which one would think would get their attention—they typically react with disinterest, lacking any curiosity about the reflection being offered.

People who have internalized the propaganda within their own minds have a smug certainty that they are right—after all, evidence to that effect is continually supplied to confirm the rightness of their point of view by the never-ending stream of propaganda—while the truth is that few, if any of us are in a position to be absolutely certain about anything. Most people can’t wrap their minds around the pervasiveness and extent of the propaganda that we are swimming in 24/7, all designed to psychically massage our minds into the desired viewpoint that the powers-that-be want us to have.

In a real mind-warp, the people under the propaganda—as if looking in a mirror—are seeing their own reflection in those who reflect back to them that they have fallen under the spell of the propaganda, who, in an inversion of reality, they see as the ones’ who are under the propaganda.[10] It is a horrifying realization to take in that those closest to us—oftentimes our siblings, parents, children and close friends—are actually out of touch with reality and aren’t interested in hearing about it.

A New Form of Imposter Syndrome?
People whose minds have been influenced in this way typically have never felt more themselves, while in truth the self they are imagining they are is an artificial simulation of themselves—an imposter—that they have taken to be themselves. They have unknowingly fallen under the spell of “the counterfeiting spirit”[11] of the Apocryphal texts, which “puts us on,” (i.e., fools us), as it impersonates us—we then become impersonations of what it is to be a human being. People who have been sufficiently propagandized are living in the self-reinforcing echo chamber of their own programmed and stunted imagination, a limited, self-blinding and crazy-making scenario which they themselves are unknowingly buying into and thereby perpetuating in each and every moment. In essence, they have entranced and brainwashed themselves, putting themselves under a mind-created spell of their own making.

Jung refers to this process of pulling “the wool over one’s eyes” as nothing other than “black magic”[12]—a form of this darker art-form that one is ultimately perpetrating on oneself. We have then tricked ourselves out of our own (right) mind. It is noteworthy that when we fall under our own self-deception, we necessarily lose contact with the real world. Jung repeatedly warned of the great danger that when a sufficient number of people fall prey to their own unconscious in this way, the result is invariably a psychic epidemic—a collective psychosis[13]—which is exactly what is happening in the world today. This process, as Jung endlessly points out, starts with—and can only be resolved—within the individual.

Jung understood that the great danger facing humanity is for people to make what he calls “the great mistake”[14]—to identify with what he calls “the fictive personality” or “the artificial self.”[15] He points out that “if you think you are separated” (from others, as well as the universe itself), you are suffering from “a neurotic imagination,”[16] which once sufficiently identified with, becomes self-generating, supplying all the evidence needed for proof of its own seemingly real existence. This mistaken notion of who you are implicitly brings with it the assumption of the corresponding abstract, supposedly rational (but actually flawed) worldview of scientific materialism, which further supports, feeds into and reinforces our sense of existing as a separate self, a process which can’t help but to further alienate us from our authentic self. This whole process is morbid beyond belief. It can’t be repeated often enough—No one else is doing this to us, we are the ones who are ultimately doing this to ourselves.

One of the chief features of this psychological phenomenon is that people’s beliefs, ideas and perspectives become unconsciously tied into and fused with their identity and very sense of self. To introduce them to another viewpoint that questions their way of seeing is experienced as an existential threat to their very sense of self or identity, which can activate their unconscious psychological defense mechanisms as if their ego—and more than that, their very life itself—is being put at risk. The root of this whole process is to be found within the psyche and nowhere else.

Stupidity Run Amok
Speaking of the mass brainwashing, mind-control and cult-like behavior that took place in Nazi Germany, theologian Dietrich Bonhoeffer wrote about his experience of encountering such people. In describing someone taken over by the wetiko spirit, he characterizes such people as suffering from a form of stupidity, by which I imagine he means people so afflicted are disconnected from their natural intelligence. Bonhoeffer writes, “In conversation with him, one virtually feels that one is dealing not at all with him as a person, but with slogans, catchwords, and the like that have taken possession of him. He is under a spell, blinded, misused, and abused in his very being. Having thus become a mindless tool, the stupid person will also be capable of any evil and at the same time incapable of seeing that it is evil. This is where the danger of diabolical misuse lurks, for it is this that can once and for all destroy human beings.”[17] Bonhoeffer recognizes that the person so possessed, by allowing themselves to be a conduit for unconscious forces to work through them, can easily become an instrument for evil, all the while believing they are on the side of truth, justice and goodness. The person so afflicted, completely unaware of their depraved circumstance in the slightest, becomes a puppet on a string—what Jung calls “the devil’s marionette”—a human instrument for these nonhuman darker forces of deception to act themselves out in our world. Bonhoeffer is speaking from direct experience—he was executed by the Nazis—about the incredible danger when a sufficient number of people become mindless tools of the state.

Evil needs groups of people to effectively spread itself. It is a well-known psychological phenomenon that when individuals mass together in a group, if the primary value of their coming together is something other than to expand their consciousness and deepen their self-reflective awareness, the collective intelligence of the gathering drops to the lowest common denominator, such that the group, in Jung’s words, becomes one big “fathead.” People under the spell of the unconscious continually reinforce each other’s deluded viewpoint, creating an impenetrable psychic bubble around themselves that deflects self-reflection at all costs.

Jung quotes Mark Twain, who in talking about the danger of this situation, says, “the greatest force on earth is mass stupidity, not mass intelligence.” Jung comments, “Stupidity is the extraordinary power and Mark Twain saw it.”[18] Not just stupefied by fear (where people react based on unconscious conditioning, instead of consciously responding out of their own volition), people who have fallen under groupthink have become, to coin a new word, “stupidified” by fear—been made stupid. Fear, it should be remembered, is the most powerful superfood for wetiko that there is.

Jung emphasized that, due to our species’ suggestibility, we all have the potentiality to become taken over by and possessed by the unconscious such that we become stupid and act out—and hence, embody—darker aspects of the collective unconscious that we all share. This insight can open us up to being able to perceive the revelatory nature of what is happening in our world. The darker forces, by subsuming and incorporating people into itself, enlists them into becoming cogs in the wheel of a dehumanizing machine—people so taken over become its unwitting secret agents (their secret being secret even to themselves). In this situation, however, the darkness is becoming potentially transparent, as it is openly showing how it covertly operates.

The darkness in our world—through both individuals, our species as a whole and the systems we have created that structure our society—is itself its own self-revelation. This is to say that the darkness seemingly taking over our world is—in true quantum style, potentially—in service to the light, if and only if it is beheld by the light of conscious human awareness. Everything depends upon whether or not we recognize the light that is being revealed through the darkness. The inner workings of darkness are usually hidden under the cloak of darkness itself, which is why seeing the undercover operations of darkness is such a game-changer. We normally think of illumination as “seeing the light,” but seeing the darkness—in Jung’s famous words, “making the darkness conscious”—is also a form of illumination. This revelation, however, needs our conscious participation in order to unlock its gifts—we can call this a “participatory form of revelation,” as it requires our active and conscious engagement in order to fulfill its revelatory function.

The Courage to Choose Recovery
It takes real courage to snap out of this spell, as there is a built-in counter-incentive to do so. As is well known, it is harder to snap someone out of their bamboozlement than bamboozling them in the first place. This is because it is painful—traumatizing—for someone to realize they’ve been had. It is a shock to realize we’ve been wrong about the very convictions we were so certain about. People don’t like to realize they’ve been fooled, but when you have been taken for all you’re worth, if you want to step onto the road to recovery, there’s no way around realizing to what degree you have given yourself away—it is the necessary first step in getting back to yourself. It is a horrifying but necessary insight to realize our complicity in the very evil that we’ve been thinking we’re fighting against.

Similar to having the strength to leave a cult, it is an extraordinary moment that takes incredible courage when we take off our blinders and snap out of the spell we’ve been under. Instead of seeing through the imagined eyes of others, we start to see through our own eyes, which is to connect with our intrinsic agency and the creative power of the true Self within us. We are then beginning to heal the self-induced blindness of wetiko within ourselves and the world at large. Seeing how the darkness covertly operates within us is the necessary step which empowers us to more effectively deal with the darkness that is wreaking havoc throughout our world.

Footnotes

[1] Jung, Nietzsche’s Zarathustra, Vol. 2, 1350.

[2] Ibid., 1131.

[3] I have written 3 books on wetiko.

[4] Jung, Nietzsche’s Zarathustra, Vol. 2, 1265

[5] Ibid.

[6] Wetiko is a form of psychic blindness.

[7] Jung, Children’s dreams, 373.

[8] Jung, Nietzsche’s Zarathustra, Vol. 1, 758.

[9] Hannah Arendt, Responsibility and Judgment, 111.

[10] One of the chief features of wetiko is accusing other people of doing what you yourself are unconsciously doing.

[11] The counterfeiting spirit mentioned in the Apocryphal texts is none other than wetiko.

[12] Jung, Visions, Vol. 2, 1205.

[13] Though afflicting individuals, wetiko is a collective psychosis that afflicts our species as a whole.

[14] Jung, Visions, Vol. 1, 369

[15] Ibid.

[16] Jung, Nietzsche’s Zarathustra, Vol. 1, 103.

[17] “Bonhoeffer On The Stupidity That Led To Hitler’s Rise,” Intellectual Takeout, April, 2016

[18] Jung, Nietzsche’s Zarathustra, Vol. 2, 1177. "

[muxfolder]

I have a suggestion. Turn off the internet on your mobile phone for couple of days and see if it makes any difference on your facebook/twitter/instagram. It seems to be true they're listening everything you say and this when all of the propaganda shows up. If you talk about politics, 3I/ATLAS, how ****t* people Russians/Chinese are, any politics, you're gonna get a lot of that on your mobile phone. I think it's propaganda, they say it's for advertising purposes only. Just pointing this out.

[shaberon]

Posted by AutumnW (here)
Shaberon, Do you have ancestry in the original 13 British colonies in North America?

That's correct.

I'm not qualified for that order of nobility, Sons and Daughters of the American Revolution.

I only have ancestry involved with State militia, and that order is derived from the Continental Army.


So, yes, with respect to America, my views are framed in the Revolutionary era. I have terrible responses on almost everything going forward. I feel we were pushed out of representation and turned into livestock. A long line of farmers told me so. They didn't pick up a gun for Uncle Sam.

[shaberon]

Posted by rgray222 (here)
Your distrust of governments and institutions is all-encompassing. It seems you are viewing them as self-serving entities that have perpetuated conflict and inequality over centuries, which is certainly warranted, but you seem to seek only the negative without probing for or acknowledging the positive at any point in your journey.

I just posted two examples of successful governmental ventures.

Is this like the time you told me I equated Judaism to Zionism many times?


I am viewing the British Empire as such a self-serving entity, supported by the Bank of England, 1694.

The United States which we attempted to wrest from their influence, has largely followed the plan of Chatham House.


Beyond that, I am talking mostly about how Oligarchy infects governments, and the vast difference between Roman- and Greek-influenced spheres over the course of history.

I've posted a lot of positive things that may happen to be communists or monarchists, and nothing from a liberal democracy.

The governments of Lebanon and Nepal are useless marshmallow cronies, even though I admire those cultures.

If we really go into detail, there are probably times when one would tend to favor Jewish people versus a western government. It's very intricate, if not delicate. I have no dog in a fight about races or Abrahamic stuff because I simply don't care. But, yes, I have a few more examples of peace, and, the more we look, we will probably decide that war was invented by Sargon. It is, in some sense, manufactured and unnecessary, certainly as Smedley Butler tells us.

[rgray222]

Posted by shaberon (here)

Posted by rgray222 (here)
Your distrust of governments and institutions is all-encompassing. It seems you are viewing them as self-serving entities that have perpetuated conflict and inequality over centuries, which is certainly warranted, but you seem to seek only the negative without probing for or acknowledging the positive at any point in your journey.

I just posted two examples of successful governmental ventures.

Is this like the time you told me I equated Judaism to Zionism many times?


I am viewing the British Empire as such a self-serving entity, supported by the Bank of England, 1694.

The United States which we attempted to wrest from their influence, has largely followed the plan of Chatham House.


Beyond that, I am talking mostly about how Oligarchy infects governments, and the vast difference between Roman- and Greek-influenced spheres over the course of history.

I've posted a lot of positive things that may happen to be communists or monarchists, and nothing from a liberal democracy.

The governments of Lebanon and Nepal are useless marshmallow cronies, even though I admire those cultures.

If we really go into detail, there are probably times when one would tend to favor Jewish people versus a western government. It's very intricate, if not delicate. I have no dog in a fight about races or Abrahamic stuff because I simply don't care. But, yes, I have a few more examples of peace, and, the more we look, we will probably decide that war was invented by Sargon. It is, in some sense, manufactured and unnecessary, certainly as Smedley Butler tells us.

No, this comment has nothing to do with equating zionism with Judaism; you have made your views on that exceptionally clear. My comment was meant to highlight that each person has the right to interpret our collective journey in a way that is very personal and meaningful to their own life. We live in the same world and view the same events but yet our interpretation of things is entirely different.

[shaberon]

Posted by rgray222 (here)
No, this comment has nothing to do with equating zionism with Judaism; you have made your views on that exceptionally clear. My comment was meant to highlight that each person has the right to interpret our collective journey in a way that is very personal and meaningful to their own life. We live in the same world and view the same events but yet our interpretation of things is entirely different.

Well.

Yes, I am addressing...seeing the same thing and getting something different from it.

I posted two examples of peace -- which you say is your thesis -- and you have not mentioned one and commented that everything I said was negative.

You posted in another thread that I equate Judaism to Zionism, I asked for an example, and nothing came forward.


Those are showing me you are not analyzing what is actually written on the page. It seems diversive. Prodding me, as an individual, won't accomplish anything; responding to the points is better. We understand that peace is difficult because of different views. We can deal with it in that context, or, of course, give up.

[rgray222]

Posted by shaberon (here)

Posted by rgray222 (here)
No, this comment has nothing to do with equating zionism with Judaism; you have made your views on that exceptionally clear. My comment was meant to highlight that each person has the right to interpret our collective journey in a way that is very personal and meaningful to their own life. We live in the same world and view the same events but yet our interpretation of things is entirely different.

Well.

Yes, I am addressing...seeing the same thing and getting something different from it.

I posted two examples of peace -- which you say is your thesis -- and you have not mentioned one and commented that everything I said was negative.

You posted in another thread that I equate Judaism to Zionism, I asked for an example, and nothing came forward.


Those are showing me you are not analyzing what is actually written on the page. It seems diversive. Prodding me, as an individual, won't accomplish anything; responding to the points is better. We understand that peace is difficult because of different views. We can deal with it in that context, or, of course, give up.

My apologies if I bothered you. At one time, I believed that conflict and war were necessary. It finally dawned on me that the failure of mankind was entirely of my making.
My aim was not to prod you. My goal was to encourage peace, not conflict. I don't really have the time (it is precious) to rummage through posts to make a point.
I wish you the best

[shaberon]

Posted by rgray222 (here)
My goal was to encourage peace, not conflict. I don't really have the time (it is precious) to rummage through posts to make a point.
I wish you the best

I understand, but I don't understand.

That's a bit of lack of interaction with the thread.

Just to reprise the concept, I will unearth a couple ways I may have been victimized by something.

When I was young, it was environmentalism. I might have become uppity if not extreme in forcing those issues. After Big Oil blowing up Iraq, naturally, Al Gore seemed like the peaceful answer with environmental priorities. At that time, no propaganda persuaded me to that message; rather, it was the imputation of repute to the party (Gore and Clinton) as if they were really going to live it out. I got buyer's remorse pretty quick.

More recently, I was actually deceived by something that is on this website.

Why? Because I encountered someone more knowledgeable than me about something which I was relatively ignorant: law.

I am going to assume everyone missed it, because this is not a propaganda that has reared its head again. It may be an extreme form of ultra-conservatism.

The argument was on the meaning and role of Citizen.

The platform being presented was that the great American secret was to refuse citizenship.


It took me a few weeks to learn what was being said, and, I repeated it for a year or more. I noticed people don't like to deal with underlying facts and so nobody was really able to participate.

Further down the road, I started looking at it independently -- i. e., not in terms of Black's Law Dictionary -- and found it to be pure garbage since 1789.

It's actually hilarious if you look into where it comes from ca. 1953.

The modern source I was able to find nested deep inside some virus-infected websites that push ideas of Anna von Reitz and the like; tax evasion type stuff. The idea is that you are downloading all these pdfs of legal forms to do some tax evasion, so hopefully you click on the "secret instructions" where this explanation is found, and I guess they eat your computer and your bank account and so on.

It was able to trick me because of cherry-picking information and excluding a bunch of stuff.

Neither of those shifted my values, it changed what I thought by way of a few false facts -- that politicians live up to their campaign promises, or, a frivolous legal argument was the hidden truth about the whole country.

[T Smith]

This was posted in another thread, but judged it also belongs here:

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