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    "The biggest enemies of the world? Zionism and AI."
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    Personal note: Are they really destroying physical books??

    For the past couple of years I've had this urge to gather textbooks on a variety of technical, historical, natural medicine, and political topics. Before they disappear. Paper maps too. Before the internet goes down and online maps with it. I hope many other people do this too.

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    1 of the comments:''Jesus warned the Pharisees and by extension the Jewish people that God's covenant with Abraham was NOT a "Get Out of Jail Free" card that made them chosen ones when he told them: "God can turn these stones into children of Abraham", which occurred when J3ws rejected Christ and He spiritually transformed the Gentiles who believed in Him into the new children of Abraham. YES, that exact exchange is in the Bible.''

    No. it's quoting John the Baptist.

    Found in Luke 3:8 and Matthew 3:7-9.

    Yes, it is a diatribe against bloodline chosenites, but John adds that baptism is equally insufficient.

    In Judaism, it doesn't matter what John or Jesus said. But, that would return to the mission of Christianity, which would be to absorb and replace Judaism.

    That doesn't mean by force. But it does mean to do it. And when modern Israel arises as nothing but sheer force, at that point you might escalate what was merely a platitude aimed at Sadducees and Pharisees.

    Such things might be a matter of degree, but, rather plainly, the idea that Christianity supports Judaism in any way is much closer to Anti-Christ. You could, perhaps, tolerate it non-violently if it were well-behaved, as in some of the diaspora communities, but not in any Zionism.
    Thank you for this clarification ,and thanks for sharing those interesting details !

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    Quote Posted by gini (here)
    Thank you for this clarification ,and thanks for sharing those interesting details !

    As a non-believer in either the theology, or the validity of the New Testament as a compilation, I am left with an iron-clad respect and value in several things about or attributed to Jesus and some of the others.

    I've been unable to muster this in terms of Judaism, defined as Elijah and successors. It's not the same as what was around in the Solomonic era, which would be the Psalms. Some of those probably hold some value. But then suddenly you have this thing that is against everything else.

    If you want to follow something that I personally disagree with, that's fine, until the "against-ness" has repercussions on other people. And, it definitely does, starting with King Josiah ca. 600s B. C. E..

    I'm not bashing anything, in fact I've been hopeful one or more Jews might post about how this works and all of the historical "problems", but it hasn't happened yet.

    On the other hand, what John said was far from original, because those same points were made in the Rg Veda somewhere around 1,500 B. C. E., which means there is a common way of thinking that is more productive for civilization.

    Modern Zionism is a blatant defeat of it all, a product of only Protestant denominations, and I am sure Jesus neither wrote the English Bible, nor gave those interpretations, which is why Orthodoxy is Christianity, and those others are not.

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