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    Abby Martin Went To Israel. IT'S WORSE Than You Think

    Is there hope… I don’t think so. This is going to end badly.

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    Default Re: Abby Martin Went To Israel. IT'S WORSE Than You Think

    We have reached a stage where the enablers must stop this insanity to save the Israeli people. Perhaps I am being too optimistic in believing that they can be rehabilitated as humans? And what punishment for the genocidal political maniacs? Will the West ever allow a court hold them to account?

    And what about the enablers outside Israel, both political and the wealthy class?

    Israelis are not doing what they are doing because they are Jewish or because of the Holocaust or even because they are Zionists ... they are doing it because they are human. History (recent and distant past) shows us that. The international organizations that were supposed to understand this, recognise the signs, raise the alert, do something have failed ... too little too late ... and the genocide has spread to Lebanon. It is almost two years since South Africa went to the ICJ to do exactly that ... raise the alarm and stop the genocide, but the genocide not only continues but governments in the UK, US and elsewhere are doubling down and turning on their own people who are now asking questions (better late than never?).

    May I add that I think Abby is mistaken. A lot of people do not care and will do nothing. And there are even those who will continue to actively support Israel.
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    This talk was on Sept. 01 on Danny's channel... with Abby and Lowkey...

    US is attacking Iran as war spirals out of control. Journalist and filmmaker Abby Martin joins the show for the first time to tell us how her new film investigating the inner workings of the US military and its impact on the planet relates to the restart of the Iran war. She is joined by rapper and journalist Lowkey for a massive discussion on why Trump and the US empire's war is going worse than you think....


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    Israelis are not doing what they are doing because they are Jewish or because of the Holocaust or even because they are Zionists ... they are doing it because they are human.
    It's a (very human) cycle of abuse. We see it all the time in families with abusive parents.

    The abused children often grow to become abusers themselves. In the same way, the self-identified victims of the Holocaust decades later become the evil perpetrators of a new Holocaust. And they justify it to themselves every day.

    It's hard to argue against those who seriously contend that the best solution for Israel (and the Palestinians) is to relocate their entire country to somewhere like Patagonia where they can do no harm to anyone around them.

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    Israelis are not doing what they are doing because they are Jewish or because of the Holocaust or even because they are Zionists ... they are doing it because they are human.
    It's a (very human) cycle of abuse. We see it all the time in families with abusive parents.

    The abused children often grow to become abusers themselves. In the same way, the self-identified victims of the Holocaust decades later become the evil perpetrators of a new Holocaust. And they justify it to themselves every day.

    It's hard to argue against those who seriously contend that the best solution for Israel (and the Palestinians) is to relocate their entire country to somewhere like Patagonia where they can do no harm to anyone around them.
    And media and educators appear to be making a concerted effort to emphasize those past abuses into the psyche of the newer generations, almost like they are doing now to females and the black race.
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    Default Re: Abby Martin Went To Israel. IT'S WORSE Than You Think

    Quote Posted by Sue (Ayt) (here)
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    Israelis are not doing what they are doing because they are Jewish or because of the Holocaust or even because they are Zionists ... they are doing it because they are human.
    It's a (very human) cycle of abuse. We see it all the time in families with abusive parents.

    The abused children often grow to become abusers themselves. In the same way, the self-identified victims of the Holocaust decades later become the evil perpetrators of a new Holocaust. And they justify it to themselves every day.

    It's hard to argue against those who seriously contend that the best solution for Israel (and the Palestinians) is to relocate their entire country to somewhere like Patagonia where they can do no harm to anyone around them.
    And media and educators appear to be making a concerted effort to emphasize those past abuses into the psyche of the newer generations, almost like they are doing now to females and the black race.
    And how they are setting up the white race for the same in a generation.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    It's hard to argue against those who seriously contend that the best solution for Israel (and the Palestinians) is to relocate their entire country to somewhere like Patagonia where they can do no harm to anyone around them.
    What about the approximately four million people who live in Patagonia, the southern tip of South America, across the Strait of Magellan from Antarctica?

    If I were a sheep farmer in Patagonia, I doubt I would welcome ten million forced immigrants from Israel, forced to move to Patagonia because they had become too traumatized to be allowed to continue living in the Middle East.

    Even the sheep, and (near to my heart, the cows) of Patagonia might not welcome that influx.

    (But the Israeli's who have been following Ben Davidson might privately accept the move, knowing that Patagonia will become prime equatorial land, in the new ice age after the earth crust moves, with some fine 3000 to 4000 meter peaks in the Andes down there, where one might better ride out the storm, with a few of one's herds.)
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    It's hard to argue against those who seriously contend that the best solution for Israel (and the Palestinians) is to relocate their entire country to somewhere like Patagonia where they can do no harm to anyone around them.

    I have more of a Ukrainian outlook: dis-arm and de-nazify it.

    Remove the political apparatus, so there's no power. No international support and no daily Hasbara.

    Make it one Palestine where they have no special privileges.

    Unfortunately, we're stuck on step one, ending support. The UK might not import certain West Bank products? Too bland. Pull the plug and it will just vanish. Quite possibly while being harassed by Resistance militaries. But I would hesitate to say either genocide or mass relocation is a necessary outcome.

    Dismantling the regime, the country, is.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by sdv (here)
    Israelis are not doing what they are doing because they are Jewish or because of the Holocaust or even because they are Zionists ... they are doing it because they are human.
    It's a (very human) cycle of abuse. We see it all the time in families with abusive parents.

    The abused children often grow to become abusers themselves. In the same way, the self-identified victims of the Holocaust decades later become the evil perpetrators of a new Holocaust. And they justify it to themselves every day.

    It's hard to argue against those who seriously contend that the best solution for Israel (and the Palestinians) is to relocate their entire country to somewhere like Patagonia where they can do no harm to anyone around them.
    Fair point Bill,

    makes you wonder how they would view the situation. "Looking at the ongoing turmoil across the Middle East — Israel, Palestine, and all the nations involved — — it feels as though we have no way out of this senseless war. It leads me to ask: if an interplanetary civilization observed this exact situation on another planet passing through for observational studies, how would they see it? Would they choose to intervene? Or would they conclude that we’re best left alone — quarantined, so that our hatred never spreads to other worlds?"

    I bet the whole planet would be quarantined so no one would be able to spread the disease.
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    Default Re: Abby Martin Went To Israel. IT'S WORSE Than You Think

    Nowhere man

    My first country in Europe was Spain, traveling with my car about half of the country soon I noticed something: every 20 km came a town...meaning= over populated,like later saw others country's
    With at that time similar or more population than Argentina...

    Spain,France,Germany,Italy,are big just like provinces where I come from...

    Now,Argentina is the number 8 biggest country on the planet...big like ALL west Europe!

    https://worldpopulationreview.com/co...s-in-the-world

    How could that be? from a continent in perpetual war with each other before and after Roman Empire! answer: Colonialism

    Every country in Europe with an Armada sailed in all directions to "colonize" "new lands" without Armadas...

    Sucking everything they could and became rich,fat and procreate all the time...

    One of those vampires got 3 of the biggest country,today: U.S,Canada and Australia and still wanted more...

    And maybe in a boring pause decided to create Zionism for a folk that was already kick out from 100 x country's and good bye with that folk... but why in Palestine? because they are messianic?
    In the back yard from the ancient 3 biggest Empires? Syria,Babylonia,Egypt? and looking for troubles?

    In the cards shuffle WHERE? came Argentina too,but why not in U.S/Canada/Australia when they loved that folk so much?

    Argentina was always open for Europe emigration,after every revolution, Spain civil war, first and second WW ...

    And came Jude and Nazis too!

    But that Zionist folk is creating problems from long ago ... not only in southern provinces , and demonstrated all the nasty behaviors observed around the globe...

    In the 90` were the first mandate from Cristina Kirchner, some public "Israelite s" was blow up and them blame Iran (at that time Iran dint gibe a sh... about Israel) and when began an official investigation came the scream antisemitism! (because it looked like a false flag operation) and Argentina got good commercial relations with Iran...

    From that event Argentinian folk is in guard from the "elected" folks ...

    And is a very proud from the battles against 3 different "vampires" colonialist trough the independence wars...(they were ALL kick out!)

    NO way the would allow a "colonization" from inside!

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