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    http://www.haaretz.com/news/internat...-leak-1.348742

    Quote Japan says nuclear reactor intact but confirms radiation leak
    Government plays down fears of radiation leak, but Japanese nuclear agency spokesman acknowledges that fears of a meltdown remain;
    Russian nuclear expert says Chernobyl-style meltdown was unlikely.
    An explosion at a nuclear power station Saturday destroyed a building housing the reactor,
    but a radiation leak was decreasing despite fears of a meltdown from damage caused by a powerful earthquake and tsunami, officials said.

    Government spokesman Yukio Edano said the explosion destroyed the exterior walls of the building where the reactor is placed,
    but not the actual metal housing enveloping the reactor.
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    160 people already diagnosed with radiation poisoning according to CTV.
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    In an article entitled Japan: Partial meltdown likely at 2nd reactor in USA Today, the "Oh that is nothing, just move along" spin is noted when the huge reinforced concrete building that blew its top off is referred to as "Unit 1 reactor was in trouble with an explosion destroying the walls of the room in which it is placed"
    Powerful aftershocks continued to rock the country, including one Sunday with a magnitude of 6.2 that originated in the sea, about 111 miles east of Tokyo.

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    This might lead to, or be part of something totally extreme, and I wish to warn you all if that is the case. It's about the unbelievable foresights that came before this date, regarding Japan as well as the rest of us. Possibly being the last big adjustments before our poor mother tips over at a later stage. And yes, there should be a thread for this but if you have not read/seen this you should just in case. Theoretical time limit is two weeks if we perhaps do not manage to change it together. Came like a shock, but that's the wisdom of life. The more conscious a human, the fewer shocks will be experienced. Peace folks.....


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    This might lead to, or be part of something totally extreme, and I wish to warn you all if that is the case. It's about the unbelievable foresights that came before this date, regarding Japan as well as the rest of us. Possibly being the last big adjustments before our poor mother tips over at a later stage. And yes, there should be a thread for this but if you have not read/seen this you should just in case. Theoretical time limit is two weeks if we perhaps do not manage to change it together. Came like a shock, but that's the wisdom of life. The more conscious a human, the fewer shocks will be experienced. Peace folks.....




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    Can we keep it in the real for now.

    This is not helpful and is rumor and innuendo.

    Thanks Equalitor.

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    New report says Reactor Core could melt down and winds would/could blow towards North America.

    News report says that people living near the Reactor have been given Iodine as a precautionary measure.

    Question...If Iodine can be used as a precautionary measure against radiation poisoning,should we here in North America buy some before there's a run on it?

    Anyone know the doses? I'll go Google. But can't be too careful right?
    Hi Shybastid - I went to buy some and the chemist said they don't sell it, because it can really damage your thyroid if you take it and don't need it.
    She said if you needed it it would have to be through a doctor or government issue.

    So - eat lots of leafy green vegies and brocoli.
    It is not true that Potassium iodide can damage your thyroid. The ONLY case that would be true is if one has Hasimotos. It's like Vitamin C, whatever your body doesn't use will be peed out. Order Iodoral 12.5 mgs from Amazon and eat seaweed (lots) until it comes.
    Quote Order Iodoral 12.5 mgs from Amazon and eat seaweed (lots) until it comes.
    Yes, I have two large bottles on hand. Very useful supplement.

    A supplement needs to contain both...Iodine and Potassium Iodide.
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    California ‘closely monitoring’ Japan nuclear leak

    While US nuclear experts acknowledged the seriousness of Japan's reactor crisis, some stressed that taking steps in the United States such as distributing iodine tablets -- which prevent iodine 131 from being absorbed into the body -- would be "vastly premature."

    wow! yeah, we wouldn't want to be prepared or anything...
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    more updates on the nuclear reactors

    http://blogs.crikey.com.au/planetalk...-at-***ushima/


    hmmm the only way to get that link to work is if you substitute *** with the letters 'f 'and 'u' and 'k'
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    Important decision are delayed because they don't want to destroy the reactors (by flooding them) until they have to. I pray that management training of maximizing shareholder value gets bumped by a still small voice... quickly!

    In other words, I'm not praying for ET intervention but rather for the decision makers to get out of their ego mind and do what is best for their country men/women. It IS within their power to stop this.

    Of all the religions on this planet, the most dangerous one may well be the cult of shareholder value. It has a lock on peoples minds just as strong as any other religion we like to (justifiably IMO) disparage.

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    Quote Posted by Chuck (here)
    Important decision are delayed because they don't want to destroy the reactors (by flooding them) until they have to. I pray that management training of maximizing shareholder value gets bumped by a still small voice... quickly!

    In other words, I'm not praying for ET intervention but rather for the decision makers to get out of their ego mind and do what is best for their country men/women. It IS within their power to stop this.

    Of all the religions on this planet, the most dangerous one may well be the cult of shareholder value. It has a lock on peoples minds just as strong as any other religion we like to (justifiably IMO) disparage.
    I agree Dionysus. Especially when you consider that Tepco is one of the most powerful companies in Japan with considerable political influence. Tongues will wag, wankers will be called out on this one when stock value plummets.

    ... meanwhile millions of lives are at risk because the wankers were concerned about their retirement packages.

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    A good graphic of the damaged reactor sites.......

    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2....html?ref=asia

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    i found your post very helpful equalitor. thank you.

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    I wanted to post some thoughts on the BBC footage of the explosion at the ***ushima plant last night after I had viewed it, but my WiFi link kept dropping, and it was not feasible. I have now caught up on this thread, and will add some other thoughts as well.

    First off, I would like to thank the poster who was able to provide the freeze frame shots from the footage, which seems to indicate that it was not a reactor containment building that was destroyed in the explosion, but don't recall who it was. (Harley?) That appears to be good news.

    When viewing the BBC footage from the farther out angle, I can clearly see what appears to be a shock wave, with a small condensation cloud forming and rapidly dissipating above the blast. This is a very common atmospheric effect of a shock wave, and is quite likely why the commentator referred to it as a very energetic blast, possibly caused by a hydrogen explosion. (Bless the BBC for keeping a more objective stance than the news-as-entertainment here in the USA) I think that is the most likely explanation. It does not look at all like an explosion caused by steam pressure overcoming the reactor building, which would not likely cause a shock wave, and which would release a huge plume of steam. It was a big explosion, yet only 4 people were injured. This concurs with the report someone else posted about the engineers hooking up hoses to pour water on a fire in the reactor, knowing the danger, hence most people were well out of danger when the blast occurred.

    Caesium-137 is produced from a uranium fission reaction, and caesium reacts very violently with water, tearing the oxygen from the water molecule and liberating hydrogen. The heat of the reaction itself is usually enough to the 'ignite' the hydrogen in the surrounding air. (Never thought high school chemistry would come in handy like this ) Why there was so much hydrogen to cause such a big explosion is something I can't answer, but this might be explained by such a scenario. Especially if they were venting the hydrogen into another container to keep it away from oxygen in the air, and something gave way during an aftershock.

    In a worst-case scenario, which I see no evidence for in anything yet posted, of a reactor building and containment building being demolished by steam pressure, a cloud of steam carrying radioactive material would be released. So, how does a cloud of steam, at sea level, get into the jet stream? I suspect that all those scenarios floating around are just fear-mongering. Yes, a lot of people are scared, but I think we need to stop sometimes and think about some of these claims. Radioactive material released at sea level is not going to get up into the jet stream, in the stratosphere, unless carried up there by a very powerful updraft. the only occasions I know of this happening were during the megaton yield thermonuclear atmospheric tests during the 50s and early 60s, and only because those mushroom clouds rose, in some cases to 100,000 feet, carrying the fallout with them into the upper stratosphere.

    A nuclear reactor can't explode like a nuclear bomb. Melt down, yes; explode no. A meltdown is a very serious scenario, but not apocalyptic. If such occurred, I doubt the amount of radioactive material that would eventually reach North America would be much of a health concern. On the other hand, I would not want to be downwind for at least a hundred miles if that happened. Those in Japan should take what precautions are indicated by the authorities, just don't panic unnecessarily.

    Something to keep in mind: We all have radioactive material in our bodies in tiny amounts - carbon-14. It's in all living things, which is how carbon-14 dating works. Problems arise when someone gets a large dose of radiation directly (not an issue in a meltdown scenario, only in a nuclear explosion) or when fallout enters into the body by being breathed in or ingested. There is always tiny amounts of said radioactive material in the air we breathe and substances we eat, but the dose is so low as to be of no concern. Life has evolved on this planet with all this occurring naturally, and our bodies can handle those levels of radiation. It is a large dose in a short period of time that our bodies aren't equipped to handle well. Of the various radioactive isotopes, strontium-90 is perhaps the most dangerous, because it can be fixed in the body wherever calcium is, especially in the bones. Since bone marrow is where red blood cells are made, a common (long term) result of radiation poisoning from strontium-90 is leukemia.

    Disclaimer: I am neither a physicist, nor a doctor. I am offering what I know from a layperson's perspective. I do consider myself scientifically educated, and have read much on these subjects, but this is a distillation of that knowledge, not professional opinion.

    Edit: Looks like I was wrong about the explosion not being in one of the reactor buildings. Doesn't change the big picture though.
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    Quote Posted by Equalitor (here)
    This might lead to, or be part of something totally extreme, and I wish to warn you all if that is the case. It's about the unbelievable foresights that came before this date, regarding Japan as well as the rest of us. Possibly being the last big adjustments before our poor mother tips over at a later stage. And yes, there should be a thread for this but if you have not read/seen this you should just in case. Theoretical time limit is two weeks if we perhaps do not manage to change it together. Came like a shock, but that's the wisdom of life. The more conscious a human, the fewer shocks will be experienced. Peace folks.....


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    May I just ask if this girl shouting on youtube made this prediction before the Japanese earthquake? And if it's true this astrophysicist Michio Kaku mentioned in the video actually also talks on ET contact?
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    Been getting some good updates from Green Action: Working for a Nuclear Free Japan.

    Caught this:

    CITIZENS NUCLEAR INFORMATION CENTER (CNIC) PRESS CONFERENCE
    (In Japanese with English interpreting)

    CNIC will hold a press conference at 7:30 tonight (Tokyo time) at the Foreign Correspondents Club of Japan. We are preparing to have it broadcast live on the following link:

    http://www.ustream.tv/channel/cnic-news

    Please check your time zones and tune in.

    It will be in Japanese with English interpreting. Speakers will include nuclear experts associated with CNIC who will analyse the unfolding disaster at the nuclear power plants in Fookushima.

    Time:
    7:30p.m. Tokyo Time
    6:30a.m. EST USA (please confirm, time conversion may be wrong.)
    10:30am London
    11:30am Paris

    CNIC website

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    For a discussion of the nuclear issue by people who seem to know what they are talking about and unwilling to accept MSM news as gospel, try http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/03/1...an/#more-35763

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    The following is speculation. Given these points:

    An earlier post reproduced part of a Russian report, dated Mar 9th IIRC, that noted that unusual atmospheric effects were observed along the west coast of North America and South America, as well as along the New Madrid fault. Such effects, including 'lights in the sky' have been recorded throughout history preceding large earthquakes, and long before HAARP ever existed, and has often been suggested as a possible way to predict major earthquakes. If this current situation was noted in the public domain, it is certain that TPTB are well aware of this too.

    I thought it odd when somewhere it was mentioned that part of Japan is on the North American plate. I checked it out - it's true. see: http://geology.com/plate-tectonics.shtml. Scroll about halfway down the page to the map. Where this earthquake occurred, off northern Honshu, is near where the North American and Pacific plates meet.

    It has been mentioned elsewhere to expect a major quake along the New Madrid fault sometime in the next two weeks, due, at least in part, to the current planetary / lunar situation.

    A possible scenario that would tie these elements together runs something like this: If HAARP was used to trigger the quake off Japan, and I think this is certainly a possibility, it might have been done to lessen the chance of a major quake somewhere on the west coast of North America. Essentially a "better them than us" sort of mentality by whoever ordered it. This doesn't excuse it in the slightest. The location of the quake may have been simply because there were already quakes happening there, suggesting this was the least stable point anywhere along the boundary between these two plates, and the easiest place to trigger a major quake to release a lot of energy. I would be very curious to see if the situation in the atmosphere along the west coasts of NA and SA has changed since.

    Somehow, I get the sense of children playing with things they don't really understand, and can't really control, in such a possible action. They may be desperate.

    The reason that the New Madrid fault may expect a major quake soon is that it is not dependent on the mechanics of NA and Pacific plates, and any 'pressure' building there can't be so released elsewhere.

    This is speculation. Make of it what you will.

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    Yes Dionysus I saw that report as well. Fulford has also speculated the use of HAARP for generating the Japan earthquake. His evidence were the observed light phenomenon preceding the quake. As you mention this is a natural phenomenon... called the piezoelectric effect. When a quartz crystal is strained (squeezed) a voltage gets induced. The principle used in quartz crystal watches. Most of the sedimentary rock are made of quartz. So when large stresses are induced just prior to fault slippage large electric voltage potentials are created.The reverse is also true which Fulford thinks is happening. By inducing large EM voltages in the ionosphere, quartz grains deform (squeeze). Maybe man made, maybe not.

    I think you are right though... the next coming weeks will be 'stressful'.

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    oh... just an aside... I think this voltage change (piezoelectric effect) is what animals detect seconds before a quake.

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    Quote Posted by Amer (here)
    May I just ask if this girl shouting on youtube made this prediction before the Japanese earthquake? And if it's true this astrophysicist Michio Kaku mentioned in the video actually also talks on ET contact?
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    Yes she did, Amer - I put it up on my facebook page early that morning and I heard about the earthquake in Japan later that evening - around 6:30 (in Australian time)

    And here's the video of M K doing an ET talk:

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=cUEkcSdcTEw

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