Timelines, what are your views? A focus: Inelia's claim of timelines....

[9eagle9]

We aren't CHOOSING a different time line like forcing our way into a seemingly impossible scenario. We are only choosing to create conditions for change so that what we desire can be expressed.What do you choose? A great outcome or a crappy one...? I prefer a better 'great' actually. WE are creating the conditions for the timeline to shift on it's own. We can't think our way into a time line, we have to create the conditions inside of us to allow it to express. It will then happen naturally.

And no if we have embedded influences and subconscious influences imposing pressure on our existence we do not have full capacity for free will until that conditioning is removed.

Then one can hear for them SELVES what their soul is speaking to them without influence from someone else. What if my soul spoke up and said my contract states I am to have no contracts. Would that make my soul wrong because it didn't abide by the rules of execution.

Do the work and let your soul express on its own what's going on. That's the point.

I have to reemphasize both of them would have an easier time of this if they applied what they know about body memory and intelligence to the timeline or life aspect of it. Its very simple. I mean when you overstate things to the extent that no one wants to try this because the don't understand it one is defeating their own purpose

I have no idea why simple concepts have to be made so complex, I really don't. Its self defeating. Literally SELF defeating.

[Mandala]

Omni, this is not from me, but from Tom Kenyon. It may give you some things to ponder. Mandala

The Art of Jumping Time Lines

Although it may seem paradoxical to some, your timeline—your life—is only one of many simultaneous possibilities. And it is quite possible, indeed it is your birthright, to alter your timeline and the potentials of your life.

Your culture, for various reasons, has hypnotized you into believing that you are limited to one timeline. In this message we shall endeavor to discuss our understanding of timelines and how you can change them.

Whenever there is an increase of chaotic events, there is a convergence of multiple timelines. Due to the fact that your planet has entered a Chaotic Node and is experiencing ever-increasing levels of chaos, there is also an increase in what we call time nodes.

Time nodes occur when two or more timelines converge. As a result of their close proximity oscillation effects sometimes occur when the realities of one timeline bleed through, or are psychically perceived by those on a neighboring timeline. Strong timelines can also literally affect the possibilities and/or probabilities of other timelines within a time node. In other words, creative and novel effects often occur within timelines when they enter a time node (proximity to other timelines).

These are evolutionary jumpstarts that hold tremendous possibility for accelerated evolution if you understand how to utilize them. As a result of the volatile nature of events on your planet, there are multiple time nodes emerging. This is a very complicated and complex affair, and we shall endeavor to break it down into its smallest segments, for we believe that this information has vital significance for those of you engaged in the ascension process, and for its sheer survival value. Let us turn our attention to the larger picture first and then to the individual strategies we suggest.
Background

Your planet is poised on the brink of utter transformation. The form of this transformation has multiple expressions, and it is you—the collective—that will affect these outcomes to a greater or lesser degree.

Some of these outcomes, these possibilities, fulfill the prophecies of planetary destruction and purification. Other timelines, other expressions, reveal a different outcome. A sudden unexpected shift in human consciousness could bring the Controllers, who have so negatively affected your destiny, to their knees. And there are hundreds of other possible timelines between these two polarities. There are vested interests in your society who wish you to remain hypnotized, which wish for you to continue in the delusion that you are limited to one timeline, one experience of life as they so deem it.

But you have, within your nature, the ability to change timelines and probabilities at the last moment of any event—whether it be personal or collective. We do not say this to be “positive.” We say this as a matter of fact concerning your evolutionary potential. Whether you will collectively reach this potential or not remains to be seen, but the path of an Initiate is to reach upward for the highest potential, regardless of what may or may not be happening around him or her. Thus, in this message we shall discuss what you can do, and how you do it.

From our perspective, your collective destiny is the summation of individual choices that you, as persons, make. This is combined with evolutionary and terrestrial forces that are far beyond your and your fellow humans’ abilities to control. This collection of forces also involves cosmic patterns of energy and intentionality from areas of the cosmos beyond your local solar system, for you are a part of a complex cosmic matrix that is your universe.

If we were to use a metaphor, we would say that you, as humanity, are on a great ocean vessel. But many of you are asleep, and there is someone at the helm directing this vessel that should not be there. For many historical and trans-historical reasons, which we won’t go into here, various beings have commandeered your ship.

But, ah, how the tides are turning. More and more of you are waking up, though some, still half-asleep, stagger across the deck as they watch the tempestuous storm of their world changing before them. The Controllers know that many of you are waking up—too many for their comfort.

It is, indeed, an interesting time to be alive!

The current ecological situation in the Gulf is one example of multiple timelines. In spite of your media’s grand attempt to dismiss the situation, many are sensing how dire the situation is, and indeed, there are complications in the Gulf region that are beneath the surface, both literally and figuratively.

In our previous message we addressed several possible timelines for this event. Which of these possible timelines will unfold into your three-dimensional reality is not written in mud or concrete, but is a changeable event or outcome. In this message we wish to discuss how you, the individual, can jump a timeline into a different destiny at a moment’s notice. This can be extrapolated to your civilization also jumping timelines, but that is a topic for another time.

For the moment we wish to turn our attention to you, the individual human and how you can jump from a disastrous timeline—from an outcome you do not wish—to something more benevolent, life-friendly, and full of evolutionary potential.

For the record, there are technological means to jump timelines, but our information here deals with human consciousness, and how you, through the power of your own awareness and intention, can jump timelines. For this endeavor, you already possess two of the greatest treasures in your very own nature—your sovereign will (to make choices) and your capacity to feel. These two, when combined properly will allow you to jump timelines as you so desire, as co-creators of your reality rather than being mere pawns on a chessboard.
The Fundamental Principle

The fundamental principle, for jumping timelines, involves the coordination of a few significant fields of intentionality.

1) You identify the timeline you wish to move into.

2) You shift your vibrational state to match the timeline.

3) You lock in the vibrational state so it does not waver.

4) You take an action that is an expression of the new timeline.

5) Persevere.

In this fifth stage, you must hold the vibrational state of the new timeline you have chosen, making choices coherent with the new timeline and persevering with this despite sensory information to the contrary.

This last phase of perseverance is important, because your current timeline is an accumulation of your beliefs and intentions. Depending upon the strength of these beliefs and intentions, you may have to accumulate a vast amount of energy in order to overcome the set pattern of your life.

The information we are sharing can be used to address any timeline or expression in your life, down to the most mundane situation. In this message however, we will be addressing this methodology for jumping timelines in regards to the ascension process and how you can move into timelines different than the timeline of the culture you are currently residing in.

This is, for some, a revolutionary idea; but for us it is simply a truth about your nature. You are creator gods and goddesses, and this information we are sharing is simply your birthright. We offer it to you at this time with the anticipation and hope that many of you will jump timelines and tilt the keel of the ship you are upon and take the vessel into safe and prosperous waters.

Enough of the metaphors now, let us get to the nuts and bolts of how you jump timelines.
Ascension

The ascension process, from our perspective, involves the energizing of your second body, your KA, and its elevation in vibration so that it emits more light, eventually becoming the SAHU, the Immortal Energy Body. There are many ways to raise the vibration of one’s KA. Most of your spiritual traditions have their own methods for raising your vibration, unfortunately, many of them are also riddled with dogma, taboos, and quite honestly, interference patterns from thought-forms placed by those who did not and do not desire your freedom, but who profit by your imprisonment.

And, yes, it is sad to say that some of your spiritual traditions—and especially your religions—are insidious traps, and if you are to rise upward in the ascension of your own being, you must separate truth from falsehood. Only you can undertake this task, for it is one of the necessities of mastery. This is a line in the sand of consciousness itself for those who have chosen the ascension of their own being. They become masters of truth and do not step aside from ferreting out falsehood from reality. They are not slaves to dogma. They bow to no one but their own divinity.

From an energetic standpoint, the ascension process begins when your life force, called Sekhem by the ancient Egyptians, begins its ascent up the Djed, or sacred pathway of the chakras. This is ascension in its simplest form. It is the expansion of consciousness and awareness. As your life force enters your higher brain centers and as your KA body becomes energized, you enter another phase of ascension. At this phase, you begin to metabolize light itself. By light we refer to spiritual light, a light that exists in the spiritual realms. This light feeds the KA body and increases its vibration. When the KA body reaches a certain amplitude, or strength of vibration, without wavering, it ignites with a type of etheric fire, turning it into the SAHU, or Immortal Energy Body. This could be viewed as one of the final stages of this particular form of ascension. But what we wish to make very clear is that any movement upward in consciousness and movement of life force up the djed, regardless of the method used, is part of the ascension process.

We wish now to discuss some basic concepts and training strategies that will impart a basic method for jumping timelines. We will then turn our attention to how you can create a new probability for yourself, even in the midst of what appears to be great difficulty. And most importantly, we will explore a significant evolutionary opportunity that exists within your current time node.

One of the first tasks facing you if you are to jump into a different timeline is the transcendence of fear. Most humans fear the unknown, but there is a much more insidious element involved here. The Controllers, those who wish to control your destiny and profit by it, are masters of the projection of fear and they are using vast resources of mind control and hypnosis through the media to convince the masses that there is much to fear. And while there is, quite frankly, some truth to there being reasons for fear, the higher truth is not being revealed.

The higher truth, as we view it, is your capacity to change your reality, your innate ability to use the two treasures of your sovereign will and your capacity to feel as a means to navigate into new timelines. Let us be specific here.

As we mentioned earlier, the type of ascension we are speaking about begins with the simple movement of your life force up the djed, or spine, into your higher brain centers. As this takes place, the energy wheels within your KA body, called chakras, become activated in new ways. This opens windows of new possibilities, and new insights, new forms of inspiration and creativity blossom. But if consciousness is locked into fear, it becomes imprisoned by the lower centers, the impulses for survival, sex, and power.

For various historical and trans-historical reasons, as we alluded to earlier, there has been and continues to be, a collusion to keep humanity locked into the lower centers, to perpetuate fear as a means to control destiny. Thus for any master who chooses the upward path, one of the first hurdles to pass through is the Valley of Fear—the projected thought forms of one’s culture. You must then pass through the portals of limitation that would confine you, to recognize the lies that have been perpetuated, even by some of your most sacred religions.

But let us say that you have the courage and fortitude to undertake such a passage, and let us say, for the sake of example, that the timeline you wish to live in is one of benevolence: loving kindness. Here is how you would do this, remembering that the same principal applies to any timeline you wish to create for yourself.
Preparation and Training

The first step is to identify the timeline you wish to create, that you wish to live in. In this case it is a timeline of loving kindness. The second step is to move into the vibrational state that matches the timeline. In this case, it is the feeling state of loving kindness, so you would, yourself, reside in this state as much as you are capable of. By this we mean you would exhibit loving kindness to others and to yourself.

The third step is locking in the vibrational field, so it does not waver. This is an important aspect of jumping timelines because the old vibrational state has a life of its own. Just because you have chosen to create a new timeline and have stepped into a vibrational state that matches the timeline, is not a guarantee that the timeline will manifest or continue. You must lock the vibrational field in place, for this is what sustains your access to the new timeline.

The first two steps involve your sovereign will. You choose a timeline you want to experience. You choose a vibrational state that matches the timeline. And in the third step—locking in the vibrational state—you use the second treasure of your nature: your capacity to feel.

By feeling the vibrational state you wish to be in, you amplify it; you strengthen it. And if you also include a coherent emotional state such as appreciation or gratitude for the vibrational reality, you will hasten its birth.

This simple act of appreciating, or feeling gratitude, for the new timeline catalyzes its reality in ways that boggle the mind. So it is that the two treasures of your nature are joined together in these three steps. The next step requires your sovereign will again. You must persevere, to hold the vision of the new timeline and the vibrational state, regardless of what your senses are telling you. This is the passage where many fail.

The manifesting of a new timeline into your three-dimensional reality requires accumulated energy. If you persist in holding the vision of the new timeline, with the vibrational field (or feeling of it), along with gratitude for it already existing, you will accumulate energy.

The task here is to be true to your vision while paying attention to what the current reality is showing you. It is not about pretending. It is about facing reality as it presents itself to you while simultaneously holding a higher vision. In other words, you deal with the reality of your life while simultaneously holding the vision of a different life. This is the art.

Using our example, if you desire to create a life with more loving kindness, you would move into that vibrational state by exhibiting loving kindness to others. If you were able to also feel gratitude for this vibrational state, it would accelerate the creation of the new timeline.

In reality, there will be a period when you will recognize that not everyone is capable of loving kindness, nor of receiving it for that matter. Your vision will then be refined by the realities of life, and this maturation of your consciousness will take place naturally, as you deal with the realities of your current timeline along with the emergence of your new timeline.

One result from this way of proceeding is that you will become a master of loving kindness and a master in dealing with those who cannot express such vibrational states. Eventually you will experience a life of more loving kindness, where more people express that quality to you and you to them. And when you encounter someone unable to express this quality, you will be more able to deal with him or her without losing this quality in yourself.

Thus would you seed the new timeline and new reality for yourself.

Let us now return to the collective timeline.

As we said earlier time nodes are juncture points where multiple timelines converge, and you can jump from one to the other if you understand how it is done. We just explained the basic principal as it applies to individual timelines. Now let’s discuss how you can jump to a different timeline than that of any given collective.

As paradoxical as it may seem it is quite possible to live a separate timeline, having a different experience of life than those around you.

Let us say that again another way. It is possible to live in heaven while others are living in torment. At the deepest levels of consciousness it is simply a matter of choice.

We do recognize that you have been, and are continuing to be, manipulated by forces that desire to keep you imprisoned. But our choice in this communication is to give you keys to jump out of that imprisonment, not dwelling on the history of it, or the identities of those involved. For, in truth, the true Controllers are unseen by you. They are the Puppet Masters.

As chaotic events escalate you will have many opportunities to jump timelines. Our suggestion is to remember the steps we discussed earlier. You might experiment with this method by choosing to conduct an experiment. Choose something that you would like to unfold as a reality in your life and using the steps we discussed, see what you can create.
Physical and Spiritual Survival

Our essential reason for imparting this message involves something of greater consequence than creating personal desires. This “something” literally has to do with your survival, both physically and spiritually.

As chaotic events escalate, your powers of intuition will be more important to you than ever before.

Some people call them “hunches.” Without knowing how you know, you suddenly know what to do in a situation.

This is how intuition works. In these moments of intuition you are at a juncture point—a time node—where you can jump into a different timeline and a different outcome.

This increase of intuitive receptivity is one of the hallmarks of personal ascension, or the movement upward in consciousness. A more developed intuition has obvious physical survival benefits.

A moment ago we said something that may be paradoxical to some individuals. We said that the ability to jump timelines had both physical and spiritual survival benefits.

What we meant here is that the ability to jump a timeline into a different outcome can result in physical survival in certain situations. By spiritual survival, we mean that there are threats to your spiritual awakening. If you lose track of your own truth, if you lose the two treasures that you possess in your nature—your sovereign will and your capacity to feel—then you are spiritually in danger. Do not lose sight of these treasures in yourself. As chaotic events increase, and they shall—for this is the birthing of a new world—the Controllers will increase their efforts. Be leery of mind-control and of any thought form that limits your sovereign will and your ability to feel, regardless of its origins—even if it comes from one of your “sacred” religions.

Any thought form, no matter how dressed up in sacred garb or political correctness that would limit your sovereign will to choose or your capacity to feel should be avoided. This is a vital necessity for those of you who wish to survive this passage spiritually intact.
The Convergence of Timelines and the Alteration of Probabilities

Let us now turn our attention to the primary reason for this communication. Everything we have said up to this point is background and suggestions for the training of your own consciousness to jump timelines.

But now we turn our attention to two highly significant timelines that exist independently of your creation. They are of a different order of existence. They are not created out of your personal choice. And they exist in diametric opposition to each other.

You exist, as we have said on numerous occasions, in multiple timelines and probabilities simultaneously. One of the timelines you and humanity are living in at this moment is a fulfilling of the prophecies of doom and planetary destruction. This is a very real timeline. But, this is only one possible timeline. You are at a convergence point, a time node, where it is possible to jump from the doomsday probabilities into a new type of Earth and a new order of existence.

This timeline, which we call the New Earth, is a very different dimension of experience than your current reality. In this timeline, Earth is deeply honored and held in gratitude by the bulk of humanity, which understands and appreciates the truth that all life is interconnected.

Here, Earth is not ravaged and exploited for the sake of profit—at the detriment of her very ecosystem. Technologies have been transformed through the elevation of human consciousness. Gone are the life-threatening technologies and life damaging mindsets of your current era. Wars are a thing of the past. The Controllers who exerted negative forces upon your destiny through their manipulation of religion, economics and international affairs have relinquished their power. Life itself is held as sacred, and a new understanding of the sacredness of matter is embraced by humanity. There is no war between Heaven and Earth in this new world.

There are more things that we could say about this timeline, but you have a sense, we hope, of the difference between this timeline and the other that ultimately leads to doom and destruction.

There is one more thing we wish to say about this timeline of the New Earth. It is an attribute that we particularly appreciate. In this new timeline, the veils between the worlds are thin, and there is greater interaction between humans and intergalactic beings—such as ourselves—and with what you might call the devic and spirit worlds.

It is here that we must say it is not our intention to sway you, for we believe in non-intervention. We will not interfere with your free will. However, we are free to point out to you what we see.

In ancient Egypt there was a goddess called Maat, who held a set of scales, and upon death the heart of an Initiate would be placed upon the scales, and a feather would be placed on the other side. If the heart was as light as a feather the Initiate would be given entrance to the heavenly worlds—meaning higher states of consciousness. But if the heart was laden with negativity, regret, and sorrow, the Initiate would have to return to the lower worlds.

In a very real way humanity is at its meeting point with Maat. Every person who believes in the timeline of doom, destruction and horror will add to its reality. Everyone who holds as real the timeline of the New Earth will add to its reality.

You are not powerless in this situation. You hold in your very nature the power of radical change for yourself and the planet—especially for humanity. If you feel a resonance with this timeline of the New Earth, and if you choose to live in this new order of being, you will be adding your weight, so to speak, and helping to tip the scales.

We wish to say something we said earlier, for it is of vital importance. It is possible to live in heaven while those around you live in torment. This has little to do with your location in time and space, but more to do with your vibrational state.

If you feel the truth of what we are saying and choose to align with this New Earth, we welcome you to a new timeline and a new destiny.

Our suggestion is to go over the steps of how to jump timelines we gave earlier, and to begin the grand experiment. Enter the timeline of the New Earth and prepare yourself for the miraculous.

Finally—let the Earth speak to you. Let her caress you and transfer to you her deepest knowledge and wisdom. She shall be a great ally in the coming changes.

We shall give further information about jumping timelines and the New Earth in future communications. But for now, we hope you have a basic understanding of how to proceed.

As always, even in the midst of such great difficulties as you now face, we hold a higher vision for you, the human family. We see your hidden greatness, even though you may not see it yourself. We hold a light in this hour of darkness. It is just a reminder of the great light you hold within yourself. It is time to free this light within you. Future generations will be blessed by your ascent. May it be so.

The Hathors
August 3, 2010
Tom’s Thoughts and Observations

Several things caught my eye in this communication. First of all they used a term, trans-historical, which I had never heard before. When I asked them about this, they said it described a way of looking at certain types of intergalactic influences that transcend linear time. Thus, the influences they were speaking about were generated outside of time, as we understand it, but then showed up in our time line from pre-history until the present moment. I don’t completely understand all of what they are saying here. I am just passing it on.

Since they emphasized the significance of time nodes so many times and belabored the point of how to jump from one timeline to another, I asked them what the duration was for this current time node. According to them, this time node is highly significant because it contains multiple convergences of possible/probable timelines that will affect our planet and our destiny as a species. Two of the timelines they specifically mentioned were a timeline that fulfills the prophecies of planetary purification and destruction running along with a timeline that leads to a new more benevolent future, a timeline they referred to as the New Earth.

So when did this time node begin and when will it end? According to them, this particular time node of polar opposite destinies emerged into our 3D reality in July of this year and will continue in various permutations through July of 2013.

Please note, they are not saying that the New Earth timeline came into existence during this time node. In point of fact, according to them, this benevolent timeline has been going on for quite some time. But the polar opposite timelines of planetary destruction versus planetary renewal are now moving very close to each other (the time node aspect). Thus, if one knows how to jump timelines, it is much easier to do when the timeline you desire is so close to the one you are on.

The significance of this time node is that humanity is at a choice point regarding which timeline it will experience as a collective reality. And according to the Hathors, the reality that will prevail is being anchored through the choices we are now making, both as individuals and as a collective.

In this message, the Hathors have imparted a basic method for jumping timelines, which, as they indicated, is primarily information for those of us who choose to live in a different and more benevolent reality than the increasingly surrealistic and life-negative reality that humanity is currently living in.

The Training and Preparation section of their message can certainly be used as a method for personal manifesting. Indeed, those who are experienced with these types of matters would most likely consider this information to be Manifesting 101. But the simplicity of the method belies its profundity. The Hathors are masters at simplification of complex concepts and techniques, and this one is no different. However, their reason for sharing this basic method is not for manifesting desires, though it will work for this purpose; it is rather to present a method that will allow us to radically shift planetary realities— if not for the greater collective of our human family, then at least for ourselves.

I loved the metaphor they chose to describe our current situation—as a ship at sea. Indeed, our situation reminds me of what happened on the Titanic as it was sinking. The ship had hit an iceberg and the lower levels of the vessel were filling with water. At first they tried to hide the danger from those on the upper decks. And so the party went on, complete with orchestra, until the end was obvious.

In the manipulated media-hype of our consumer obsessed culture, few are pointing out that our ship, the S.S. Western Civilization, is severely listing to one side, or that it is sitting dangerously low in the water.

The Hathors believe that if enough people jump timelines, leaving the prophetic timeline of planetary destruction behind, and instead, enter the more benevolent and life-affirming reality of what they call the New Earth, many of the disastrous prophecies regarding our planet will not come to pass.

But they are also clear that even if the collective does not shift into a higher destiny, something remarkable will happen for those of us who have the courage to live a different reality than the one that is being impressed upon us by our current culture. “It is possible to live in heaven while those around you live in torment.”

There is something else in this latest message that I consider to be of vital importance—especially for those of us who are actually going to attempt jumping timelines. And this “something” has to do with our human capacity for delusional or “magical thinking.” In case you aren’t aware of that term, magical thinking is a thinking disorder in which the person believes that just by thinking something, it is real or can be made real without any effort on his or her part.

There is, in my opinion, a highly toxic element in New Age thinking that encourages denial as a means to cope with certain difficulties in life (i.e., magical thinking). And to be sure, the current and escalating insanity of our world is increasingly difficult for many of us to cope with. But if someone reading this thinks that denial is an acceptable means to deal with the realities of our current timeline, I wish to point out that the Hathors are saying something quite to the contrary.

Part of the art of jumping timelines is to hold the vision and vibrational signature of the timeline we wish to experience. But at the same time, we need to pay attention to the actual realities of the timeline we are on. This is living between the worlds, and this is the type of mastery the Hathors are calling us to.

I suspect that many of us who choose to jump timelines (myself included) will encounter a learning curve, where we fall short of being able to leap to the new timeline and/or fail to sustain it. This is completely normal when learning a new skill, and yes, this is essentially a new skill—albeit a profound one. So my advice to all of us neophyte timeline-jumpers is to be gentle with ourselves, leave self-judgment behind, and enter into this type of learning experience with a good sense of humor. After all, the whole thing is, from at least one perspective, a grand cosmic joke.

How we navigate the realities of a transforming (some would say dying) civilization, while keeping our hearts and minds on the timeline we wish to live in, will undoubtedly become an art form.

And so… to my fellow Artists of the Living Mystery, to those of you who are enamored with the vision, and who have the courage to jump, I raise my cup to you.

I salute you and the great undertaking we are about to engage, which is nothing short of the ascent upward into our own highest qualities as spiritual beings living a human experience.

Blessings to you and your loved ones,
Tom Kenyon

[NancyV]

Posted by norman (here)

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

What about "contracts" we allegedly sign before incarnating?

If true that would have a direct bearing on "free will" as well as the "option to jump timelines" would it not???

If true, it would, but where did this notion come from?

Can someone tell me that for sure?

It may turn out to be some kind of adopted 'comfort' that has crept into the language from 'who knows where'?

If it is true that contracts or agreements exist and were agreed to before we entered this "life", I look at them this way; the agreements were created AND agreed to by me so I can change them.

[aranuk]

I'm trying with great difficulty getting my brain round all this timeline choices Bill and Inelia spoke about. I have this scenario in mind: There is Bill & Inelia in their mindset/timeline thinking and feeling and acting in a world that at the time 21st December 2012 where there isn't anything that terrible having happened or happening. There is also these other two friends of mine who in their mindset/timeline expecting terrible things including the earth being hit by all sorts of electromagnetic waves and earthquakes every day. There beside them I am standing where in my mindset/timeline I think a pole shift is going to happen or has already happened. There are also in the region of 7 billion people who do not have any mindset/timeline except the one where the mass media has shaped them into zombies. Now where is the consensus here? Either Bill & Inelia turn around and say the world is ok just as we pictured it and look at each other and say "where is Stan" he has seemed to vanish and his two friends as well, you know the ones who thought the earth would be hit by EM waves. Presumably the 6 billion are still alive and well. In my reality where there was a pole shift both my two friends have disappeaared and Bill & Inelia have gone. But there are 4 billion people alive and 2 billion died. Then there my two friends reality where 5billion died including me,Bill & Inelia. There cannot be a reality timeline where we ALL are talking to each other. You see my problem here?

Stan

P.S. I'm sorry I thought I was posting no 17. I didn't notice there were more posts to read. I'm getting too old for this stuff.

[aranuk]

Do we vanish when something terrible happens or do we vanish when we have a totally clear picture of our mindset/timeline in place?

Stan

[HURRITT ENYETO]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Posted by norman (here)
This is a fascinating and very 'now' issue to get a discussion going on.

But, if I'm going to stay in it past 1 post, it's going to have to be a discussion that excludes fiction.

The biggest problem with trying to get my head around the issues of timelines and consciousness shifts etc is that I completely 'lose it' as soon as anyone mentions some movie plot or great book of fiction.

I'd even argue that all the serious stuff we could be discussing here is almost completely pre nobbled by the mass immersion in fiction.

To all proponents of timeline shifting, I say this at the outset:

Drop the references to works of fiction and learn a new language with the rest of us.

Even if chasing creations of fiction down the path of realisation was a good idea, I still wouldn't want to be guided by the sorts of people who actually write that stuff for Hollywood.

I'm bored and sick of being expected to take a lead from professional illusionists. I want to hear a fresh and truly real explanation of the inclinations of others, especially on the subject of timeline shifting.


I got that off my chest.

Valid point(s) and well spoken

As far as movies, tv books or any form of mass media I suppose ... follow the money and you find those ol' rascals the illuminati (or whatever name/label you want to use).

For some reason (several debatable) "they" feel inclined to "suggest" to the masses what "will be happening". Cannot imagine it to be simple arrogance. I believe it has more to do with "them" understanding how consiousness creates reality much beyond what the masses suspect. Social engineering if you will. In essence what we see in most programming is simply that ... programming. Putting out the meme, if you will, of direction "they" are hoping to steer our collective consiousness into creating.

A bit off topic from timelines ... but Omni is our local expert on mind control so worth considering in this thread.

IMHO

My thoughts exactly Calz,
I don't believe each person can chose thier own INDIVIDUAL time line, but they can 'steer' it to a certain degree, otherwise there would be complete chaos IMHO.

This is why TPTB need to influence and steer Mankind constantly because the more people you have thinking (creating) a certain way the more powerful the the focus is to create the desired reality.

Otherwise TPTB wouldn't bother brainwashing the masses as they could simply create their own timeline.
They know how powerful thoughts are when you have millions of people thinking along the same lines.

Cheers
Hurritt

[g.k.r]

Posted by aranuk (here)
I'm trying with great difficulty getting my brain round all this timeline choices Bill and Inelia spoke about. I have this scenario in mind: There is Bill & Inelia in their mindset/timeline thinking and feeling and acting in a world that at the time 21st December 2012 where there isn't anything that terrible having happened or happening. There is also these other two friends of mine who in their mindset/timeline expecting terrible things including the earth being hit by all sorts of electromagnetic waves and earthquakes every day. There beside them I am standing where in my mindset/timeline I think a pole shift is going to happen or has already happened. There are also in the region of 7 billion people who do not have any mindset/timeline except the one where the mass media has shaped them into zombies. Now where is the consensus here? Either Bill & Inelia turn around and say the world is ok just as we pictured it and look at each other and say "where is Stan" he has seemed to vanish and his two friends as well, you know the ones who thought the earth would be hit by EM waves. Presumably the 6 billion are still alive and well. In my reality where there was a pole shift both my two friends have disappeaared and Bill & Inelia have gone. But there are 4 billion people alive and 2 billion died. Then there my two friends reality where 5billion died including me,Bill & Inelia. There cannot be a reality timeline where we ALL are talking to each other. You see my problem here?

Stan

the pole shif is underway, magnetic north is moving towards russia and they had to repaint lines at a u,s airport so you are correct in that anyway, sorry if its off topic, i think that its more about little things that you might change instead,, like if you was going to cross the road without a crossing and you was going to get run over but you decide to use a crossing instead, that will change the timeline, i think its more subtle things, also i think it migth be about the powers that be plans in the world and how we can stop certain things from happening, through a conscious choice maybe, lets not let the new world order win for example, if everyone sits idle they will win but if people spread the truth like they have then more people are awakening from it, so that changes the timeline too, i think thats the point anyway, maybe im wrong, for instance, if the farmers dont use gmo crops and stick to the seeds they have now then maybe that will be averted too where the companies that make the gmo seeds that dont seed for the farmers to get seeds for next crops wont gain control of the food chain so easy,. hope im not way off course here

[Sebastion]

Mandala:

I am exceedingly grateful that you posted that article from the Hathors! Their description of how to go about experiencing higher consciousness and manifesting describes to a "t" exactly the steps I learned through trial and error many years ago. The proof was in the fantastic results I experienced when properly applied. It takes an iron will and unbending intent backed up by inspired thought. Loving what your doing while your doing it and a grand sense of adventure keeps one fueled during the process. Jumping timelines-sounds like another grand and awesome adventure and I am definitely in!!

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Omniverse:

Thank you, thank you, thank you for bringing up this topic!

[ROMANWKT]

Hi all
By my understanding of this is that all is mentation, its a mind thing,when you sleep and when you are awake, both are an illusion, that's the matrix. we are about to end a 26,000 year cycle, you could call it that our contract is about to end, check the Mayan calender, and you have date given for the last of days and nights which is the UNIVERSAL CO-CREATION.

I have now two dates of the start of co-creation as different people come out with different date, one starts on March 8th 2011, and the other starts at October 9th 2011, one shows every 18 days of a co-creation cycle, and the other shows every 20 days of a co creation cycle. they will finish in 2012.

By my understanding is that we all created this time line in the past and have returned to it since, it took our consensus to create this, we are the creators, and that's what TPTB don't want you to know.

There is a wave of a change on its way here, we have to set up a group, a consensus group to be able to change our time line for the next cycle coming.

The TPTB will start wars,create hunger fear and panic so that you will not be able to think of a future without them, they will steer the world consensus through their bullsh£t, all your fears and negativity will the be generated to the new cycle time line.

This is why Bill and Enelia are about to set thing up and will explain further of this process, I think???

My regards to all
roman

ps there is lots more its best they explain.

[Jake]

Posted by aranuk (here)
I'm trying with great difficulty getting my brain round all this timeline choices Bill and Inelia spoke about. I have this scenario in mind: There is Bill & Inelia in their mindset/timeline thinking and feeling and acting in a world that at the time 21st December 2012 where there isn't anything that terrible having happened or happening. There is also these other two friends of mine who in their mindset/timeline expecting terrible things including the earth being hit by all sorts of electromagnetic waves and earthquakes every day. There beside them I am standing where in my mindset/timeline I think a pole shift is going to happen or has already happened. There are also in the region of 7 billion people who do not have any mindset/timeline except the one where the mass media has shaped them into zombies. Now where is the consensus here? Either Bill & Inelia turn around and say the world is ok just as we pictured it and look at each other and say "where is Stan" he has seemed to vanish and his two friends as well, you know the ones who thought the earth would be hit by EM waves. Presumably the 6 billion are still alive and well. In my reality where there was a pole shift both my two friends have disappeaared and Bill & Inelia have gone. But there are 4 billion people alive and 2 billion died. Then there my two friends reality where 5billion died including me,Bill & Inelia. There cannot be a reality timeline where we ALL are talking to each other. You see my problem here?

Stan

P.S. I'm sorry I thought I was posting no 17. I didn't notice there were more posts to read. I'm getting too old for this stuff.

I think i see your point. this entire discussion is making my brain hurt.... ouch!... Delores Cannon has described a major timeline shift where the Earth herself will split (multidemendionally, there will be 2 complete earths) and those who have chosen one over the other will not necesarily be aware of the 'other' that they did not choose.

"People who get left behind will think, "It's too bad _______ died believing what he (or she) believed." They won't be aware that anything has happened. The old earth will still be here, vibrating at it's lower frequency with terrible things happening to it, but the new Earth moves into another dimension vibrating so fast that it becomes invisible to those on 3d Earth."

Cannon is talking strictly about the 'splitting earth' scenerio, but as far as I am concerned it dovetails into ANY timeline change. To YOU I may die, right in front of you. And you will be sad that I was such a fool, believing what I did. I, on the other hand, May experience a similar situation where YOU die in front of me, and I am sad for you because you died believing whatever it was that you believed. This is an extreme example. Death need not be the outcome. Eventually, (imo) we DO experience the lives of what we would experience, were we to have stayed on the other timeline. If there is a timeline in which we ALL are together, maybe this is the one. Maybe not. I understand past lives and reincarnation to be an essential part of this conundrum. I explained in an earlier post my take on reincarnation, and why we are all ONE. let me take it a step further and suggest that our incarnations are NOT limited to this small blue planet. When folks say that ETs have come from around the entire 'multiverse' to witness the 'shift' taking place on earth, try and understand that only PART of them are sitting in their spacecraft watching, this is not a front row seat,,,, NOOO...!!! The ones who were most excited about seeing 'the show', incarnated here, and are experiencing it the same way that we are, AS HUMANS. (I am sorry if I just made a confusing subject, even more confusing.) .... ouch....! mee brain hurts...

[truthseekerdan]

Posted by ROMANWKT (here)
Hi all
By my understanding of this is that all is mentation, its a mind thing,when you sleep and when you are awake, both are an illusion, that's the matrix. we are about to end a 26,000 year cycle, you could call it that our contract is about to end, check the Mayan calender, and you have date given for the last of days and nights which is the UNIVERSAL CO-CREATION.

Hi RomanWkt, there is a good info thread on the last wave (9th) of the Mayan calendar for those interested here:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-March-09-2011

Much love ~ Dan

[ROMANWKT]

Posted by truthseekerdan (here)

Posted by ROMANWKT (here)
Hi all
By my understanding of this is that all is mentation, its a mind thing,when you sleep and when you are awake, both are an illusion, that's the matrix. we are about to end a 26,000 year cycle, you could call it that our contract is about to end, check the Mayan calender, and you have date given for the last of days and nights which is the UNIVERSAL CO-CREATION.

Hi RomanWkt, there is a good info thread on the last wave (9th) of the Mayan calendar for those interested here:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-March-09-2011

Much love ~ Dan

That it, that's the one, you have made a fantastic thread there Dan, thank you.
my regards
roman

[NancyV]

Posted by Mandala (here)
The Fundamental Principle

The fundamental principle, for jumping timelines, involves the coordination of a few significant fields of intentionality.

1) You identify the timeline you wish to move into.

2) You shift your vibrational state to match the timeline.

3) You lock in the vibrational state so it does not waver.

4) You take an action that is an expression of the new timeline.

5) Persevere.

In this fifth stage, you must hold the vibrational state of the new timeline you have chosen, making choices coherent with the new timeline and persevering with this despite sensory information to the contrary.

This last phase of perseverance is important, because your current timeline is an accumulation of your beliefs and intentions. Depending upon the strength of these beliefs and intentions, you may have to accumulate a vast amount of energy in order to overcome the set pattern of your life.
Tom Kenyon

A good example of these steps in action is my husband. He has changed timelines MANY times in his life, but he doesn't call it anything or really think about it, he just does it. Here is a recent example:

About 4 years ago he went to a doctor and had some tests. The tests came back for him having diabetes. He got some medicine, the blood testing kit, etc. We decided to change his diet first before considering insulin. I did the testing for him daily and his blood sugar levels were very high, like consistently between 250 and 300. First he rejected the medicine because it made him sick. His blood sugar remained high so he continued the diet for another couple of weeks but he never went below 200.

Then he decided to quit the whole thing, the diet, the daily testing, etc. He just refused to have diabetes and high blood sugar because he didn't like that reality. He went back to drinking a lot of soda pop (YUCK!) and his normal diet that had plenty of sweets in it. I argued with him for about a week then realized that I better brainwash myself into accepting his reality as he is immovable when he makes a decision.

He would not waver from his thought that he did not have diabetes. I finally talked him into a quick test after about a month (which he did only to shut me up!) and his blood sugar had gone down significantly, to around 130. So I would say his will power (or whatever power it is) is so strong that he won't accept a supposed reality once he absolutely rejects it, so the reality MUST change.

He did the same thing many years ago when doctors told him he would never walk again without braces (injuries from a helicopter accident - two broken legs and had to have many surgeries). He absolutely would not accept that reality and it didn't take him more than 6 months to be walking with just a slight limp.

Many of us who are extremely stubborn and refuse to accept the proclamations of anyone else can alter the reality they are attempting to impose upon us. I don't accept anything from anyone as the absolute truth so I have changed my life and the outcome of many dangerous situations in some pretty radical ways just by the power of my will and access to the "force". 9eagle9 and loveandgratitude have posted good examples of using this ability. Here in Avalon and the alternative community in general probably the majority of us can change our timeline/reality/life using our willpower and the creative force.

I also like to look at it from a quantum physics viewpoint. I was looking for a particular video by Nassim Haramein, but what has been posted by Ponda in post #22 was some good info about quantum physics and temporal feedback loops. I can just hear Nassim laughing and saying "of COURSE you can change your timeline, you created it you can change it". His 9 part video on Youtube "Crossing the Event Horizon" is quite good. (especially if you're a physics nerd/geek!)

[Lazlo]

For me, it helps to break this subject up into a couple of manageable pieces.

First, there is the TIMELINE. This is the path that we, as humanity, rolling through space on the big blue ball, experience and are part of. It can be changed, but individual actions are not "heavy" enough to tip the scales, only collective actions matter.

Then there are timelines. These are the paths that we, as individual follow. The world we create and choose to live in. Small decisions can have enormous impact.

TIMELINE is composed of billions of timelines. Collective actions do in fact change the future, but as an individual, you are merely playing along in TIMELINE.

TPTB inluence events, emotions, and actions in order to prevent individual choices from reaching critical mass and making the leap from changes in timelines becoming changes in TIMELINE.

The two most important factors that prevent changes in timelines are fear and inertia. Fear and inertia are not merely words, they are in fact powerful.

"I want to do something different, I feel that I should be doing something different, but things aren't so bad right now and I don't know what will happen if I make a change."

From personal experience, the single greatest change to my timeline that I made was also the scariest moment of my life. I made the decision because I knew it was the right choice for me, but I was so scared that I was physically ill. It felt like I wasn't going to be able to keep anything in my stomach. Everything external was screaming at me to turn around. But, I listened to the quiet inner voice and perservered, and my life took new and exciting directions that I wasn't even able to imagine then. I feel now like I am living a charmed life, blessed in every way, and I can trace it back to that moment of defeating inertia and fear.

So yes, I agree with what Bill and Inelia are saying, though I disagree with some of the semantics.

[Belle]

This is for you, Jake.

"Author’s Note: I wrote this some time ago and posted it here. Later on, someone posted the entirety of the text to 4chan without my name, and then reddit posted an image of that page. Somewhere along the way the authorship got lost in the shuffle. So to be clear: Yes, I wrote this. No, it’s not a repost from somewhere else. This page is the original source.

The Egg

By: Andy Weir


You were on your way home when you died.

It was a car accident. Nothing particularly remarkable, but fatal nonetheless. You left behind a wife and two children. It was a painless death. The EMTs tried their best to save you, but to no avail. Your body was so utterly shattered you were better off, trust me.

And that’s when you met me.

“What… what happened?” You asked. “Where am I?”

“You died,” I said, matter-of-factly. No point in mincing words.

“There was a… a truck and it was skidding…”

“Yup,” I said.

“I… I died?”

“Yup. But don’t feel bad about it. Everyone dies,” I said.

You looked around. There was nothingness. Just you and me. “What is this place?” You asked. “Is this the afterlife?”

“More or less,” I said.

“Are you god?” You asked.

“Yup,” I replied. “I’m God.”

“My kids… my wife,” you said.

“What about them?”

“Will they be all right?”

“That’s what I like to see,” I said. “You just died and your main concern is for your family. That’s good stuff right there.”

You looked at me with fascination. To you, I didn’t look like God. I just looked like some man. Or possibly a woman. Some vague authority figure, maybe. More of a grammar school teacher than the almighty.

“Don’t worry,” I said. “They’ll be fine. Your kids will remember you as perfect in every way. They didn’t have time to grow contempt for you. Your wife will cry on the outside, but will be secretly relieved. To be fair, your marriage was falling apart. If it’s any consolation, she’ll feel very guilty for feeling relieved.”

“Oh,” you said. “So what happens now? Do I go to heaven or hell or something?”

“Neither,” I said. “You’ll be reincarnated.”

“Ah,” you said. “So the Hindus were right,”

“All religions are right in their own way,” I said. “Walk with me.”

You followed along as we strode through the void. “Where are we going?”

“Nowhere in particular,” I said. “It’s just nice to walk while we talk.”

“So what’s the point, then?” You asked. “When I get reborn, I’ll just be a blank slate, right? A baby. So all my experiences and everything I did in this life won’t matter.”

“Not so!” I said. “You have within you all the knowledge and experiences of all your past lives. You just don’t remember them right now.”

I stopped walking and took you by the shoulders. “Your soul is more magnificent, beautiful, and gigantic than you can possibly imagine. A human mind can only contain a tiny fraction of what you are. It’s like sticking your finger in a glass of water to see if it’s hot or cold. You put a tiny part of yourself into the vessel, and when you bring it back out, you’ve gained all the experiences it had.

“You’ve been in a human for the last 48 years, so you haven’t stretched out yet and felt the rest of your immense consciousness. If we hung out here for long enough, you’d start remembering everything. But there’s no point to doing that between each life.”

“How many times have I been reincarnated, then?”

“Oh lots. Lots and lots. An in to lots of different lives.” I said. “This time around, you’ll be a Chinese peasant girl in 540 AD.”

“Wait, what?” You stammered. “You’re sending me back in time?”

“Well, I guess technically. Time, as you know it, only exists in your universe. Things are different where I come from.”

“Where you come from?” You said.

“Oh sure,” I explained “I come from somewhere. Somewhere else. And there are others like me. I know you’ll want to know what it’s like there, but honestly you wouldn’t understand.”

“Oh,” you said, a little let down. “But wait. If I get reincarnated to other places in time, I could have interacted with myself at some point.”

“Sure. Happens all the time. And with both lives only aware of their own lifespan you don’t even know it’s happening.”

“So what’s the point of it all?”

“Seriously?” I asked. “Seriously? You’re asking me for the meaning of life? Isn’t that a little stereotypical?”

“Well it’s a reasonable question,” you persisted.

I looked you in the eye. “The meaning of life, the reason I made this whole universe, is for you to mature.”

“You mean mankind? You want us to mature?”

“No, just you. I made this whole universe for you. With each new life you grow and mature and become a larger and greater intellect.”

“Just me? What about everyone else?”

“There is no one else,” I said. “In this universe, there’s just you and me.”

You stared blankly at me. “But all the people on earth…”

“All you. Different incarnations of you.”

“Wait. I’m everyone!?”

“Now you’re getting it,” I said, with a congratulatory slap on the back.

“I’m every human being who ever lived?”

“Or who will ever live, yes.”

“I’m Abraham Lincoln?”

“And you’re John Wilkes Booth, too,” I added.

“I’m Hitler?” You said, appalled.

“And you’re the millions he killed.”

“I’m Jesus?”

“And you’re everyone who followed him.”

You fell silent.

“Every time you victimized someone,” I said, “you were victimizing yourself. Every act of kindness you’ve done, you’ve done to yourself. Every happy and sad moment ever experienced by any human was, or will be, experienced by you.”

You thought for a long time.

“Why?” You asked me. “Why do all this?”

“Because someday, you will become like me. Because that’s what you are. You’re one of my kind. You’re my child.”

“Whoa,” you said, incredulous. “You mean I’m a god?”

“No. Not yet. You’re a fetus. You’re still growing. Once you’ve lived every human life throughout all time, you will have grown enough to be born.”

“So the whole universe,” you said, “it’s just…”

“An egg.” I answered. “Now it’s time for you to move on to your next life.”

And I sent you on your way."

[Jake]

Belle,, I know we haven't connected yet on this forum. We have now!!!!!! I could not get through it without swelling up inside. thank you for your post... it means alot... now I cry....

[Belle]

Thanks, Jake. Your posts on this thread reminded me of this story. It has stayed with me since I first read it years ago. I'm so glad it touched you as it does me.

[9eagle9]

I think i see your point. this entire discussion is making my brain hurt.... ouch!... Delores Cannon has described a major timeline shift where the Earth herself will split (multidemendionally, there will be 2 complete earths) and those who have chosen one over the other will not necessarily be aware of the 'other' that they did not choose.

That began occurring Spring of 2010.Or rather the shift tipped it over into a place where one couldn't avoid noticing it. Earth based shifts have increased so much over the last two decades. 20 years ago it was once or twice a year, then once a month, then once a week,s every few days, and since spring of 2010 its every day, sometimes a few times a day. It sounds divisional but its not really, not like choosing between the ascended and the sinners, it was entirely based on the choices people made. A part of the process not the end of it. Really just a move withing the matrix that allows for its grip on the earth level to be less dense. A portion of what some people may refer to as earth consciousness has been held under artificial conditions and that is when it began easing out of that particular matrix. Probably when they began horsing around with the ionsphere too much. They had an eff up with Haarp that was heard in my time zone (est) about 10pm and I believe the date was July 21-22. 2010. Woke me up from a sound sleep and all hell had broke loose 'out there' , and for the better if one could get past the chaos. Thats when the buzzing , a sub aural hum started for a lot of people who previously didn't hear things of that nature , it was buzzle up and them simmer down and come in fits and starts. Vibration of course causes vibration sounds ...also last year some of these liteworkers that are gridding into vortices and ley lines for no good end (although I'm sure think their well intentioned) suddenly found out they could do that any more. (pause for a brief smirk) . A lot of the people who are sort of intentional agents for that sort of matrix generating, programmers you know , people that are just corded into the crap .A lot of them disappeared off the map here, something slapped them down a notch. People on our level of reality , us commoners...lol. They got sat on pretty hard. Not all of them but one has the impression this is occurring in waves

The anomaly here on the property is idling full throttle.. I've entirely given up on the notion of ever making a cell call from here again. The distortion of the land the feeling that something is superimposed on it is stronger, and how people get directionally disoriented is worse.

I haven't opened anomaly this year so when I go work there in June I'm really curious as what may happen.

[MariaDine]

«The anomaly here on the property is idling full throttle.. I've entirely given up on the notion of ever making a cell call from here again. The distortion of the land the feeling that something is superimposed on it is stronger, and how people get directionally disoriented is worse.

I haven't opened anomaly this year so when I go work there in June I'm really curious as what may happen»


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Where are you 9Eagle9 ? and where are you going ?

The «waves» you feel are going to get «worse» ....LOL

[Carmen]

When you think of it. Timelines can be quite simple. Think of when you got into this 'spiritual/alternative/conspiracy stuff'. I bet plenty of your family and friends thought that you were absolutely 'cuckoo'!! You argued for awhile and so did they and then they sort of drifted away and disappeared from your life. You suddenly didnt have a whole lot in common. There was nothing to talk about, no point of agreement and you found those former friends quite boring. You had changed a timeline, a different frequency!