Planet X/Nibiru/Tyche/Hercolobus/Elenin

[nearing]

Posted by greybeard (here)
Two suns?
The recent pictures of two suns confuse me, in that Planet X is not thought to emit light.
If the photographs are genuine then the second sun would have to be at least as large as the current sun.
Thoughts on this appreciated.

Chris

The photos od 'two suns' so far are not real. I think all of them are lens flare. I can walk outside with my phone camera right now and duplicate one. It's easy. People who post them as real are either VERY dumb about photography or are frauds.

You cannot see the Dwarf Star with naked eye yet. By mid June backyard telescopes should be able to see it though. Then we will see some REAL photos of it.

It doesn't emit light but as it comes into our solar system (mid June) it will reflect the Sun's light, just as the planets do.

[nearing]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Posted by nearing (here)
I am convinced too. I would welcome a new thread too.

BUT, the only action I have taken so far is to convince my son to be with me in the fall. I cannot afford yet to stock up on anything but will in summer. I honestly don't think that many will survive in 3D, even TPTW in thier bunkers. I honestly think that if anyone survives it (in 3D) it will only be because they will be lucky enough to be in a place that doesn't experience any devastating Earth changes. Where those places are is anyone's guess.

Even if one does find themselves here on the other side of this, they may not survive the radiation and/or changes in climate.

I really don't WANT to have to fight others for clean water or food, etc. Or die a slow death from radiation or cold/heat.

I am intending to leave the material world with this event and. If I have done it all right, ascend.

I have heard from very spiritually "connected" people that there will be "safe zones".

I can offer no "proof" ... I can recount a story I heard (again no "proof") that there were some people that lived through one of the nuke bombs in Japan by staying inside a church. The whole area (city for that matter) was roasted yet that particular church was unscathed.

Never forget we are living in an illusion (holographic if you will).

Worst comes to worst Mama Earth will be fine (she could really use a little relaxation time) ... and all our "souls" will be fine. I expect "humanity" ... either this version or the next "iteration" will be fine as well.

As always ... IMHO

There may be safe zones here and there, but the Aftertime may not be survivable. Or it may be survivable but a VERY rough life.

The fact that our souls will be fine is the reason I would rather leave the body than stay behind...

[DoubleHelix]

Some food for thought from a well respected man who was certainly 'in the know'

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=IrBir1SLz9Y

[Billy]

Have you Guys seen this.

http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2011/05/c...se-letter.html

We have previously reported how Planetary Alignments with Comet Elenin Causing Big Earthquakes. And about Comet Elenin HUGE MASS, as objects with smaller mass having short elliptic al Orbit, from 2 up to 1000 years or so, like Asteroids or Comets.The fact that Elenin comet (C2010 X1 ) enters our solar system close to the ecliptic with a Period of ~11’800 Years (Long Period Orbit), makes this Object very dangerous. read it all

In latest development now we learns 10 page letter is already out on the web since October 2010, which proves that US NASA and the White House know about ELENIN and consider it “a real threat” (On October 11, 2011 Elenin will be only 0.246au away from Earth; that’s a quarter of the distance to the sun.) it`s possible even more dangerous against earth than we understand.

They are calculating and preparing to if possible take action against this Comet. John Holdren, director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, or OSTP, outlines plans for “(A) protecting the United States from a near-Earth object that is expected to collide with Earth.

Interestingly, Comet C/2010 X1 (Elenin) was only “discovered” by civilian Leonid Elenin on December 10, 2010, in the official White House letter below, written back in late October 2010, the White House addressed the possibility of an Comet/Asteroid striking the Earth.
The terminology used in this letter, along with several other facts that have emerged in the time since the letter was written, lead us to believe that our “shadow” government and elements within NASA have long known that anticipated effects of the arrival of Comet Elenin would indeed be much greater than they are telling the public.

In fact, we believe that the White House letter below may be the “smoking gun” to help prove that the government indeed does know that the potential consequences facing planet Earth from this comet will be far more disastrous than what they are “officially” telling the public.




http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/defa...neos-house.pdf

Quote from article

In breaking down this letter, it’s important to address several questions that have since more recent information come to light.

After the letter above clearly shows how important it is to monitor such incoming objects due to their propensity to “change” orbit?

Why was it that NASA turned off the granddaddy of all NEO (Near Earth Objects) telescopes & SETI ATA this year.

Flashback Quote:

The WISE spacecraft will remain in hibernation without ground contacts awaiting possible future use.
Feb. 17, 2011 Space.com

The SETI ATA has been in hibernation - a safe mode of sorts, where “the equipment is unavailable for normal observations since April 15, 2011. Universetoday.com

Why are we not getting any straight information from mainstream media about Comet Elenin 2011 while most Google searches on Elenin will bring you straight to the alternative news sites throughout the world?

[Vince]

Hello there
I don't know quite yet what to think about all this, my opinion about this possible incoming huge body in our solar system is not set.
But something is puzzling me and it's quite a simple "could be" evidence : The 10 francs bill from the switzerland national bank.
To be more specific the sixth version which was put in circulation as long ago as 1976 and which is clearly showing on it's back a map of our solar system, including the obvious "in orange" orbit of an unknown (for the masses at least) body at the time. Seems that comet Elenin itself is also shown in the upper part of that orbit. More info here :

http://www.snb.ch/en/iabout/cash/his...history_serie6

and for a more accurate depiction, here :

http://mahamudras.blogspot.com/2011/...iss-franc.html

Someone on that last site comments and says that the planets position on the bill does match the one they should occupy on the 26 september of 2011.
If proven true, might as well confirm that some people in the higher financial spheres have been waiting for that event for a long time.

[JoeNashville]

Wow, that Ed Dames video is incredible! At least 15 years old? ... and precisely describes where we are now. And I like his attitude about it. It's serious, deal with it, we're all in this together.

Posted by stdante (here)

can anyone tell in about how long concret evidences will be big enough to end the debate ?
one way or another... (weeks, months... ?)

thank you

June 14. Is that soon enough? IF the NASA data is real and at this point it is the only prima fascia evidence that this whole thing is real, the next significant date is June 14. While I'm not predicting anything, if this thing is real we should see a quake way beyond anything we've see so far.

The first quake on the New Madrid fault already happened(yesterday) and no one noticed! lol

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquak.../10/270_35.php

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Posted by nearing (here)

Posted by Operator (here)

So ... does this make you feel better ?

Lol. I feel pretty good to begin with!

He forgets(?) that this 'comet' has been causing a gravitational/magnetic pull on the earth (earthquakes!) everytime it's mass is added to the Sun's pull on us (alignment).

No comet has the mass to do that.

At this point we can safely narrow this down to 3 possibilities:

1) Dwarf.

2) Unnatural "comet" that has "intelligently navigated the asteroid belt (draw your own conclusions there).

3) An extraordinarily well done psyop. This is possible but based on the boneheaded psyops gone by a really really long stretch.

IMHO

That about sums it up, although for clarity:

1) A dwarf star/sun could easily be bringing 1 or more bodies in orbit with it! Could be that's what we are 'seeing' so far.

2) According to Plasma Cosmology/Electric Universe theory comets are electrical and that would go a long way to explain much the recently documented activity of comets and the sun.

3) To me this is the most intriguing part of this whole thing. If this is a psyop/MISO what is the endgame? To be sure if it is, it's a huge (and expensive) operation. There are multiple websites, multiple personalities and hundreds of shills covering most every post on the web about it. But one could make a great case for that.

I have been pondering this. If NASA did that, they went to a lot of trouble to create alignment dates that correspond to Earth events. And there are a ton of them, many more than most people realize. All I can figure is they are using those past dates to point to future dates that also correspond to the data of ELEnin. The creepiest dates are that it crosses the ecliptic and perigee on 9/11. This may be THE ONLY instance of concurring events. Also, future alignment dates(like the ones causing massive quakes the last 2 years) occur on 11/22(I like conspiracy, but not coincidence!) and 12/21/12. There are many more dates of interest. I won't list them all here.

My thinking is that the NASA data is a cryptic warning about future dates based on past dates, but it's hard to figure that out. I'm glad time is short, I'm ready to get on with it!

[Billy]

Posted by Vince (here)
Hello there
I don't know quite yet what to think about all this, my opinion about this possible incoming huge body in our solar system is not set.
But something is puzzling me and it's quite a simple "could be" evidence : The 10 francs bill from the switzerland national bank.
To be more specific the sixth version which was put in circulation as long ago as 1976 and which is clearly showing on it's back a map of our solar system, including the obvious "in orange" orbit of an unknown (for the masses at least) body at the time. Seems that comet Elenin itself is also shown in the upper part of that orbit. More info here :

http://www.snb.ch/en/iabout/cash/his...history_serie6

and for a more accurate depiction, here :

http://mahamudras.blogspot.com/2011/...iss-franc.html

Someone on that last site comments and says that the planets position on the bill does match the one they should occupy on the 26 september of 2011.
If proven true, might as well confirm that some people in the higher financial spheres have been waiting for that event for a long time.

And here also

http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2011/05/n...-and-iraq.html

[nearing]

Vince:

Someone on that last site comments and says that the planets position on the bill does match the one they should occupy on the 26 september of 2011.

If you are talking about the Iraqi one, they show the orbit but not that actual body so I can't see how it would be the alignment on Sept 26. Having said that, I think just the orbit itself being there is damning evidence that they have known all along and have kept it from us.

[Vince]

Actually i'm talking about the Swiss one

[nearing]

Posted by Vince (here)
Actually i'm talking about the Swiss one

Ah, well, when I go back and look at them, I realize that I am speaking of the Swiss one as well! There is no body on that orbit.

And if that blue ribbon is supposed to be the body, it certainly isn't where the Dwarf Star will be in September, it will be MUCH closer to the Earth.

[MorningSong]

Let's just compare:








Now look at this:

[Mark Aldebaran]

Apparently it's not only the Reverend Camping that lives in a fairytale eschatological countdown. That 10 Swiss francs bill is all over the internet and it's nonsense. The last time Saturn and Jupiter were in that approximate configuration was 1736. (It would be nice if it was 1707 as that's when Euler was born. But nothing like. There was a comet in 1736, and that was also the year that Halley proposed his eponymous comet.) What little we know about Comet Elenin is buried under some pretty silly conjecture.

Go to JPL and run the the animation. The next time Saturn and Jupiter line up like that is after AD 2200, which is as far as the applet goes.
http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=Elenin&orb=1
Here is the high rez image again:


It just occurred to me (over a cheesecake talking to my patent attorney in Denny's at 1am) that I made a couple of assumptions here. And that is that orbital diagrams have a convention (like Cartesian World coordinates or something) and that both NASA and the note artist are following them. (I know nothing about astronomy, even though that is more than half of YouTube.)

Let's assume NASA know what they're doing and view is from above the planetary plane and the top is Galactic North (or whatever). Assuming the artist is also looking from above, as the note is a rectangle that gives us four plausible orientations, of which one is the most likely. (Note stood on the end with writing and symbols the correct orientation.) That isn't the one above, as I was copying the note orientation used in a youtube video (silly me). I'll run that other angle and report back. Plus I actually know a full-time real astronomer (works here at the Space Coast BCC Planetarium/Telescope thingy) so I'll bounce this off him.

[nearing]

Yeah, I don't think they were trying to depict the orbits to scale. Maybe that would have taken up too much landscape on the bill. But the orange orbit certainly looks like it represents 'Elenin's' orbit by the way it is so elliptical and comes in so close to Sun. Looks like a Binary Star.

[Arrowwind]

Now I dont know much about this topic.. but after listening to Hoagland just now I decided to look into Elenin a little and I came across this..

its very intereesting.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=MqV0StQbJQs

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[witchy1]

Perhaps one way to be definitive would be to check with all the prime ministers and presidents (and other elite) and see if they would be available between October 17th and November 23rd this year to attend an event (top side of course)

Is there any way of knowing their agenda in advance?????

[norman]

Posted by witchy1 (here)
Perhaps one way to be definitive would be to check with all the prime ministers and presidents (and other elite) and see if they would be available between October 17th and November 23rd this year to attend an event (top side of course)

Is there any way of knowing their agenda in advance?????

I think, if we asked, they would lie. Don't you?

[jack]

Posted by yiolas (here)
Ok Guys, I would like to state up front that I am not a photographer.
I was doing weekend gardening today when I recalled reading somewhere that one could capture an image of planet x if they photographed the sun using the negative setting. Well, I decided to try it with my phone camera. I have Nokia 6303i classic. I wasn't even sure if it had such a setting. Lo and Behold it not only has a negative setting but something else as well called 'solara'.
I proceeded to take a picture of the sun at approximately 4pm Cyprus time using the normal setting which you can see in the first picture. Then tried it in the solara setting and then in the negative setting. I just wanted to settle this in my midn once and for all. I was astounded to say the least when I looked at what I had captured. I'm not saying that it is Nibiru, but look for yourselves and you tell me what that image is at the 5 o'clock position below the sun. Better yet try it yourselves. If I can do it with my very basic phone camera, any one can.

Please tell me what you think it is. The weirdest thing is that the object is not a regular smooth ball, but appears to have wings !

(picture taken at normal setting)
Attachment 5856

Picture taken in the 'solara setting'
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Picture taken in the 'negative setting'
Attachment 5853

That would be Nibiru orbiting your Dandelions.

[jack]

Posted by yiolas (here)

Posted by viking (here)
These piccies are pretty amazing Yiola ... they look very real to me...and the shape of the image seems to be spot on ...

Waiting to hear what others have to say ...

viking

Viking, I'm getting spooked out here.
I was sort of resigned to the fact that what I captured yesterday was some kind of photographic glitch. But as I continued my gardening today, I decided to take one more shot at the sun. It was a bright sunny day here in Cyprus and the sun was still high up in the sky around 3 pm. I was standing in front of trellis and with my cell phone camera on the 'negative setting' again, I aimed up and took a shot of the sun . It was so bright outside that I really could not see what the picture looked like at the time. It's dark now and I just came in side and decided to upload the picture onto my computer.
The object under the sun is still clearly there. Please, will someone just go outside and take a picture of the sun and put your camera on the negative setting.
I would really like to get to the bottom of this.

Hi Yiolis, from sunny Slovakia.

We are probably getting as much sun as you guys, its been a real cracker of a summer for 'spring' here this year.

If i could suggest somthing that would put your mind at rest and help you out in any future efforts to photograph the sun try this ; Take a piece of cardboard and cover the sun whilst taking a picture. If it is a photographic anomoly caused by a refraction of the light from the sun on the lense of your camera it will dissapear. If it is a celestial object it will remain when the sun is completely covered.

[jack]

Posted by Mark Aldebaran (here)
Apparently it's not only the Reverend Camping that lives in a fairytale eschatological countdown. That 10 Swiss francs bill is all over the internet and it's nonsense. The last time Saturn and Jupiter were in that approximate configuration was 1736. (It would be nice if it was 1707 as that's when Euler was born. But nothing like. There was a comet in 1736, and that was also the year that Halley proposed his eponymous comet.) What little we know about Comet Elenin is buried under some pretty silly conjecture.

Go to JPL and run the the animation. The next time Saturn and Jupiter line up like that is after AD 2200, which is as far as the applet goes.
http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=Elenin&orb=1
Here is the high rez image again:



It just occurred to me (over a cheesecake talking to my patent attorney in Denny's at 1am) that I made a couple of assumptions here. And that is that orbital diagrams have a convention (like Cartesian World coordinates or something) and that both NASA and the note artist are following them. (I know nothing about astronomy, even though that is more than half of YouTube.)

Let's assume NASA know what they're doing and view is from above the planetary plane and the top is Galactic North (or whatever). Assuming the artist is also looking from above, as the note is a rectangle that gives us four plausible orientations, of which one is the most likely. (Note stood on the end with writing and symbols the correct orientation.) That isn't the one above, as I was copying the note orientation used in a youtube video (silly me). I'll run that other angle and report back. Plus I actually know a full-time real astronomer (works here at the Space Coast BCC Planetarium/Telescope thingy) so I'll bounce this off him.

About the last picture there ;

2002 Euler is an asteroid named after the Swiss mathematician and physicist Leonhard Euler. The asteroid was discovered on August 29, 1973.

Euler helped develop the Euler–Bernoulli beam equation, which became a cornerstone of engineering. Aside from successfully applying his analytic tools to problems in classical mechanics, Euler also applied these techniques to celestial problems. His work in astronomy was recognized by a number of Paris Academy Prizes over the course of his career. His accomplishments include determining with great accuracy the orbits of comets and other celestial bodies, understanding the nature of comets, and calculating the parallax of the sun.

He is the guy who's face is printed on the back of that Swiss Banknote.


What concerns me, or at least arises curiosity in my mind is the fact that the United States government has been building underground bases since the 1950's.

The Russians are 'rushing' to build 5,000 underground shelters with a maximum enddate for completion 'sometime before 2012' - This will enable them to house the entire population of Moscow given an apporpriate disaster in the future.

A man called John Moore claims to be very concerned about the future of mankind after he received maps of a future America plotted by the United States Marine Corps given to him by various members of high level military. His video for those interested is here ;

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=vpbiuKTtMZo

I could go on ... BUT.. I'm not quite sure that this is going to happen on this level of dimensional existance. I am a firm believer that there is as many dimensions of earthly existance as there are human beings determined by our level of vibration and our overall level of consciousness. So this may be relevent and it may not, I guess time will tell.

[kersley]

Posted by yiolas (here)
Ok Guys, I would like to state up front that I am not a photographer.
I was doing weekend gardening today when I recalled reading somewhere that one could capture an image of planet x if they photographed the sun using the negative setting. Well, I decided to try it with my phone camera. I have Nokia 6303i classic. I wasn't even sure if it had such a setting. Lo and Behold it not only has a negative setting but something else as well called 'solara'.
I proceeded to take a picture of the sun at approximately 4pm Cyprus time using the normal setting which you can see in the first picture. Then tried it in the solara setting and then in the negative setting. I just wanted to settle this in my midn once and for all. I was astounded to say the least when I looked at what I had captured. I'm not saying that it is Nibiru, but look for yourselves and you tell me what that image is at the 5 o'clock position below the sun. Better yet try it yourselves. If I can do it with my very basic phone camera, any one can.

Please tell me what you think it is. The weirdest thing is that the object is not a regular smooth ball, but appears to have wings !

(picture taken at normal setting)
Attachment 5856

Picture taken in the 'solara setting'
Attachment 5854

Picture taken in the 'negative setting'
Attachment 5853

Sorry to burst your bubble, But this is just the way light bounce in your camera. i tried this myself after hearing the same. and i got the same image. But if you move your camera slightly to different angle. the said object with wings, will move position. by changing the angle, you can make that object be in any position around the sun. How can this be anything but light tricks on the eyes?
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