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    I actually have a flight to CA scheduled 9/29 for the longevity now conference (and I have an extra ticket in case anyone wants to get their nutrition on with me).

    This is a super strange thread to read after looking forward to hanging out with all the healthiest eaters in the world in a few days. What a strange time for a disaster to strike. I think I will still go though since nothing major has ever been predicted by any in these alternative circles. Prolly more likely that a ridiculous amount of well-being will be spread down there (you know what I mean if you have ever heard David Wolfe speak).
    He he, this imminent disaster is not compatible with my agenda either! And by the way, my best astrocartographylines run through Seattle and Vancouver which menas i resonate with pple from that area even if i can't go there myself. In Seattle one can study astrology at the university and i've referred to the speech of Indian chief Seattle many times, even if as some say it was a screen play...

    Apocalypso
    Prolly a good thing. Seattle is a fully scorpio town. It's got lots of fun amazing stuff, but bring your vitamin d if you come. Living in Seattle is like dating a really beautiful woman who is always sick. Looking forward to taking my light saber down to CA and braving the apocalypse [snicker]
    Hi there you trixter!

    You just saved youself from being a scorpio...you know the arrow of the sag kentaur and the tail of scorpio are pointing towards the center of our galaxy and that's what 2012 is about...

    Well i'm a heavy scorpio you know but with lots of mercury and moon neptune conj in libra. Ha, was sick for 2 days but am recovering and just started taking vitamin d since Gothenburg is a rainy cloudy city in winter. Also making cosmic stand-up jokes not to get sucked into the fearmongering elenin hype. Have to admit though that i'm wondering about why all these politicians are taking a time out? But what can i do? Cancel a photosession on the 27:th and go visit my father instead in case the world will come to and end and i won't see him anymore

    C:mon pple, tell me, how are you preparing for what you think is coming?:


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    I don't think there's much preparing to do, as I don't believe the world will end in the way people think it will..... All our friends will still be here at the end of the year, and perhaps even past 2013... But what you might see is an increase in the death rate both natural and through disasters... I think that's the main way that people will "disappear"...

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    I think the only preparation you need to do is in the 'mind' ... give it a dust up and rid if all those distractive thoughts...

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    The PTB (PTW) have absolutely no right at all to withold this information (ET and life in the Universe) from us... in my opinion this is OUTRAGEOUS...to say the least ...

    Yes we need to give them (ET) permission for this...but many of us do...and many more each day...the tipping point is getting closer by the day...the only reason why many folk have freaked out is because the veil has been kept over us far too long...they have kept us in the dark (PTW)... Why? greed/selfishness/control ... This is the bigger picture Agape ... Dont be hoodwinked as the why Et should and should not do ... jump out of the show...thats all it is.

    What right do they have controlling our consciousness to this extent...they have not let us evolve...ET have hinted for years in the skies...They have really tried to awaken us but it has been almost impossible with the veil the ptw have on us...well almost!

    So you see, in my opinion we are ready ... is that not why we are here?

    It will be .... AND , HUMANITY WILL RISE

    viking
    i think you confuse something here. tptb don't control our consciousness, consciousness controls everything. they just play their part in the game, nothing more. EVERYTHING is just an expression of the divine. the mayan calendar describes how consciousness expands and what happens around us is the RESULT of this expansion, the expansion of consciousness is NOT the result of what happens around us.

    tptb have every right to withhold information from us because we ourselves (as creators) wanted it to be that way when we came up with this great game. how could you expand your consciousness when it's already infinte? you couldn't, and so from the point of (3rd dimensional) creation onwards consciousness expands and all that happens happens because of this expansion. when you're in a state of limited consciousness, without access to your total being, and you nevertheless overcome the negativity outside and inside of yourself, then you grow. and the more negativity is around you and the more you overcome, the more you grow.

    everyone and everything has its role in the game, the "positive" as well as the "negative" entities, and if you're OUTRAGED (to use your words) about that or even hate the supposedly "negative" beings you hate nothing but a part of yourself because you are everything. the key is to love everything, the "good" and the "evil" stuff, because all is an expression of the divine, but to do only that which creates love in your fellow beings who may not be as knowing as you about the true workings of the great spirit. this is a simple and yet fundamental truth, expressed one way or another by all enlightened beings but as yet really understood by very few humans.
    Among the blind the one-eyed is a madman.

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    There are some interesting posts in the "Death of elenin thread" Go figure.

    To be able to love everything requires already being an ascended master and i'm not for sure. But harnessing both the the dark and the light sides and containing them without projecting the negative on to others might be something one can achieve here on earth if one tries very very hard. And if one doesn't succeed, the key is to forgive oneself as then it will be easier to forgive others even if you don't come to love them.

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    The PTB (PTW) have absolutely no right at all to withold this information (ET and life in the Universe) from us... in my opinion this is OUTRAGEOUS...to say the least ...

    Yes we need to give them (ET) permission for this...but many of us do...and many more each day...the tipping point is getting closer by the day...the only reason why many folk have freaked out is because the veil has been kept over us far too long...they have kept us in the dark (PTW)... Why? greed/selfishness/control ... This is the bigger picture Agape ... Dont be hoodwinked as the why Et should and should not do ... jump out of the show...thats all it is.

    What right do they have controlling our consciousness to this extent...they have not let us evolve...ET have hinted for years in the skies...They have really tried to awaken us but it has been almost impossible with the veil the ptw have on us...well almost!

    So you see, in my opinion we are ready ... is that not why we are here?

    It will be .... AND , HUMANITY WILL RISE

    viking
    i think you confuse something here. tptb don't control our consciousness, consciousness controls everything. they just play their part in the game, nothing more. EVERYTHING is just an expression of the divine. the mayan calendar describes how consciousness expands and what happens around us is the RESULT of this expansion, the expansion of consciousness is NOT the result of what happens around us.

    tptb have every right to withhold information from us because we ourselves (as creators) wanted it to be that way when we came up with this great game. how could you expand your consciousness when it's already infinte? you couldn't, and so from the point of (3rd dimensional) creation onwards consciousness expands and all that happens happens because of this expansion. when you're in a state of limited consciousness, without access to your total being, and you nevertheless overcome the negativity outside and inside of yourself, then you grow. and the more negativity is around you and the more you overcome, the more you grow.

    everyone and everything has its role in the game, the "positive" as well as the "negative" entities, and if you're OUTRAGED (to use your words) about that or even hate the supposedly "negative" beings you hate nothing but a part of yourself because you are everything. the key is to love everything, the "good" and the "evil" stuff, because all is an expression of the divine, but to do only that which creates love in your fellow beings who may not be as knowing as you about the true workings of the great spirit. this is a simple and yet fundamental truth, expressed one way or another by all enlightened beings but as yet really understood by very few humans.
    Hi Truth ...I'm not confused at all mY freind

    First of all the PTB control all the main media tv stations/Magazines/Newspapers ect ect ...so in other words they are controlling 90% of all humans thought patterns...what most folk dont realize is that with all these controlling outlets thEy control the flow of our consciousness with the control of thought patterns...do you see what I mean? ... with this in mind how easy would it be to control the populations reality ... !! Think about it...

    In my opinion they have no right to control or withold information for the betterment of mankind... like I said they have witheld soooo much for only one reason ... CONTROL/GREED/SELFISHNESS ... ME ME ME!

    I do love all Truth ... but that does not stop me from being OUTRAGED by the shanangans of the ptw...

    viking
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    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

    ...

    Consider that the mid-ocean ridges are moving ocean plates away from the ridges at, let's say, 5 cm/year each side.

    Now let's chose, arbitrarily, that the African + Eurasian continents are pinned and imobile. That is, the non moving reference point.

    So, if we go westward from Africa -- no subduction zones in between Africa and the Mid Atlantic Ocean ridge nor on the eastern side of the Americas -- then the North and South American continents moves away from Africa at 10 cm/year.

    The above means that these 10 cm have to be "absorbed" by the subductions occurring along the Pacific Rim of Fire.

    ...
    Hi Amzer,

    Thanks for your explanation ... did you ever consider that the entire globe may be expanding (like the universe) ?
    In most of the Pangaea simulations you can see all the continents drifting apart at the same time. In that case there would be
    no need for absorption elsewhere. Just a thought ...

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    Quote Posted by transiten (here)
    There are some interesting posts in the "Death of elenin thread" Go figure.

    To be able to love everything requires already being an ascended master and i'm not for sure.
    Depends on what you mean by "love everything". For instance, after I was attacked while walking home from work one night last year, I cried afterwards. Not really because of what the attackers had done to me, but because of what they had done for themselves - because I knew that, deep down, they were better than that.... They could have been doing their race and their ancestors proud instead of the shameful act that they had committed (they were Australian Aboriginals).

    In a way, I was loving them, despite what they had done to me.

    Now, I don't claim to be fully capable of "unconditional love" - But I'd like to think that I am a reasonable way along that path.

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    For me there is a innerconflict, a huge gap between knowing and experiencing/feeling.
    I know life is a mirror for myself, and they answer to heal myself, healing the world is love!
    But still in a rollercoaster of emotions, periods of very inner sadness and sometimes periods of hating the world, disliking myself.
    It's a process, and there will be a time that knowing and feeling are gonna like eigthother and being best friends...

    Thats why i leave the info for what it is, overload info for the mind anyway... Gonna focus more on my heart.
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    Hi Amzer,

    Thanks for your explanation ... did you ever consider that the entire globe may be expanding (like the universe) ?
    In most of the Pangaea simulations you can see all the continents drifting apart at the same time. In that case there would be
    no need for absorption elsewhere. Just a thought ...

    Greetings
    Hi Operator,

    Thanks for the thought.

    Although a possibility, if any expansion does indeed exist, it is completely obliterated by the subduction zones compensating for the generation of oceanic crust at mid-oceanic ridges.

    These subduction trenches have been in existence and functioning for a very long time... something like about 180 million years for the recent ones. Remnants of older ones have also been found.

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    But that has got nothing to do with when and where we should be introduced to the rest of the family , so to speak ...

    Yes we would be in wonder at first (well some of us anyway) but in time we would come to accept and gain further knowledge and spiriual learning from these advanced civilisations ...I'm afraid it is inevitable that this will come , and in my opinion the sooner the better for all of mankind. We are advanced enough to

    Hey have a look at this video it will open your mind a little ... of course this is on a much smaller scale ... check out the sheer wonderment in their eyes!



    The PTB (PTW) have absolutely no right at all to withold this information (ET and life in the Universe) from us... in my opinion this is OUTRAGEOUS...to say the least ...

    Yes we need to give them (ET) permission for this...but many of us do...and many more each day...the tipping point is getting closer by the day...the only reason why many folk have freaked out is because the veil has been kept over us far too long...they have kept us in the dark (PTW)... Why? greed/selfishness/control ... This is the bigger picture Agape ... Dont be hoodwinked as the why Et should and should not do ... jump out of the show...thats all it is.

    What right do they have controlling our consciousness to this extent...they have not let us evolve...ET have hinted for years in the skies...They have really tried to awaken us but it has been almost impossible with the veil the ptw have on us...well almost!

    So you see, in my opinion we are ready ... is that not why we are here?

    It will be .... AND , HUMANITY WILL RISE

    viking


    Beautiful video , thank you Viking . No need to tell me about the 'big picture' , I try to look from all sides, yours as mine .

    The tabu cast over our heads has less and less power .


    Today I read in the news ..about the 'don't ask don't tell' gay policy has officially ended at midnight, for US army .


    See here : YouTube: Airman tells dad he is gay as ‘don’t ask’ policy disappears


    Thine little step forwards ..

    I had to smile and ask myself : IS IT VALID FOR US ETS AS WELL ? I mean 'us E.T.s' in human world ..
    We go by the same rule probably, tabuized so heavily, so 'don't ask don't tell ' ?


    How easy do you think it was ..for example and to this day ..to face it with human mum who expected she gave birth to another 'carbon copy' of herself and has no recall of anything extraterrestrial other than some blissful experiences ..

    then had a child who was growing up totally independent of what she said and told her at the age of 13 about 'being of another world ' ? What do you think she told me that time . She told me that I'm probably ill and need to get out of it fast and get back to my homeworks.

    She was protesting against each move I did ..spiritual or not . The 'model' she wanted to have it was not .

    How many other moms and dads and friends and teachers and students did I meet through my life , who fell in love with my face and tried to convince me I need to be as human as they are just to make it all feel silly because they were not ready ?

    And I did not know all the way along, I was not 'convinced' about anything , all I had was faint, discrete, 'spiritual' knowing of things that others did not have and some other unique abilities I still considered very human .

    I did not know till I had seen it all clearly and in gala huge way in front of my eyes for several hours ..which was eternity . Else I'd not believe it .
    I'd not give it a cent myself.


    Now again, to tell any authority ..and beg them, please ..I have something to give you , you need to do this and that ..to receive the knowledge .
    Do you think it's easy ?


    Oh you think there will be Ships and Space brothers and they'll come down to tell you straight away . You don't hear me then either ..why it does not fly so far .

    There are technical difficulties, biological discrepancies, time-space distortions that may seriously hurt one or both sides . Or simply distort the event .

    How fragile life is...remember ...like a blade of grass.



    How sensitive the situation is . You think 'we are not spiritual enough' . You are, we are . But this is not matter of who is more 'ascended' ,
    this is a matter of employing very sharp intelligence and great compassion for life at the same time .


    I believe you. I wish for the same . We all wish for the same but wishing is not enough ..someone has to do...





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    has any one herd about this 6tonne stat-lite from NASA coming back to earth in between 23 September 25th, seems strange that is the dates of comet Elenin aligning inbetween ou sun , seems like a good cover for any thing we might see in that time.

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    Quote Posted by transiten (here)
    To be able to love everything requires already being an ascended master and i'm not for sure. But harnessing both the the dark and the light sides and containing them without projecting the negative on to others might be something one can achieve here on earth if one tries very very hard. And if one doesn't succeed, the key is to forgive oneself as then it will be easier to forgive others even if you don't come to love them.

    transiten
    yes if you're enlightened you'll inevitably express the unconditional love of the divine because of the direct connection, without blinders on. but even with the blinders in place, always trying to express love and to "be" love would be a sensible thing to do because of the law of attraction and because you attract the "negative" things that help you to grow as long as you need them. once you realize that certain things keep happening to you because you're supposed to change your reaction to them and then do just that they'll stop happening.
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    Hi Truth ...I'm not confused at all mY freind

    First of all the PTB control all the main media tv stations/Magazines/Newspapers ect ect ...so in other words they are controlling 90% of all humans thought patterns...what most folk dont realize is that with all these controlling outlets thEy control the flow of our consciousness with the control of thought patterns...do you see what I mean? ... with this in mind how easy would it be to control the populations reality ... !! Think about it...

    In my opinion they have no right to control or withold information for the betterment of mankind... like I said they have witheld soooo much for only one reason ... CONTROL/GREED/SELFISHNESS ... ME ME ME!

    I do love all Truth ... but that does not stop me from being OUTRAGED by the shanangans of the ptw...

    viking
    the reason why they control consciousness is because it is supposed to happen that way. without that control on humanity's consciousness it would have expanded to rapidly, more than allowed by the divine (the creator(s) of the game). as i said before, only in other words, the controlling of humanity's consciousness by tptb is not the CAUSE but the EFFECT. if tptb hadn't done it it would have happened by other means but it would have happened because the universe goes like clockwork. there must be absolutely no way for human beings or ETs or anyone to speed it up or slow it down, and those beings with full connection to the creator who could easily have prevented all of the "negativity" and "control" know this, hence there's this quarantine and rule of noninterference in place here on earth. it will be lifted the moment consciousness expands into infinity. it's all part of the plan. nothing is a coincidence.
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    That would be all very well if there was actually a quarantine around Earth, but there is ample evidence that this so-called "quarantine" DOES-NOT_EXIST..

    Also, it seems as if TPTB are allowed unfettered access to technology well in advance of what we have, are allowed access to space, and seem to be allowed to BLOCK access to these things to the everyday person. And it seems their PROPAGANDA that they are somehow given permission to do this seems to be working - at least it is on you!

    You know what I think happened? I think, sometime in antiquity, god knows when, humanity was HOODWINKED into giving away its' power to people who were ultimately unworthy of having it.... And its' been a constant struggle by those members of humanity who rise above the everyday person to try and reclaim that power on behalf of the rest of humanity. It is happening, more people are waking up day by day, but it is a struggle that is not quite over yet..


    It's not about anyone saving us, it's about the universe giving us a boost up, so to speak.

    Think about it this way :

    You are short, and there is a tall fence you wish to climb over. There is no other way through the fence but to climb it, and no way that you can climb it unaided. You do not own a ladder.
    SOmeone else owns a ladder, and they will pass over the ladder to you so you may use it to climb the fence. It is still your responsibility to climb the ladder and get over the fence, as they are unable to help you climb the ladder.

    Personally, I think that some time in the future, the universe will "hand us a ladder" to "climb the fence". It will still be our responsibility to climb the fence, however. That it can be any other way , IMHO, I have trouble accepting given the extent of control the PTB exert over us at this time. And, to give legitimacy to the PTBs control over us in any way is not just offensive in my view, but utterly vile and repulsive to the highest degree....

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    And, to give legitimacy to the PTBs control over us in any way is not just offensive in my view, but utterly vile and repulsive to the highest degree....
    i repeat what i said before - EVERYTHING is an expression of the divine. if you are offended and repulsed by something you're offended and repulsed by a part of yourself. when you realize that you are everything and everything is you then there's no more reason to feel offended, repulsed or whatever, you'll recognize that there is a reason for everything, a divine plan. you're not there yet but maybe soon.
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    And, to give legitimacy to the PTBs control over us in any way is not just offensive in my view, but utterly vile and repulsive to the highest degree....
    i repeat what i said before - EVERYTHING is an expression of the divine. if you are offended and repulsed by something you're offended and repulsed by a part of yourself. when you realize that you are everything and everything is you then there's no more reason to feel offended, repulsed or whatever, you'll recognize that there is a reason for everything, a divine plan. you're not there yet but maybe soon.
    Yes, I see your point.

    To fit it within the paradigm you refer to, I guess i can say that I see the PTB as a part of us that is not in alignment with the highest good - as do many other people. Therefore I will do what i can to transform it into something that DOES align, as is the task for all of us here.... Maybe as our level of awareness rises, the PTB will appear to lose more and more control, eventually ceasing to exist?

    I have thought lately, that there must be people within the "breakaway civilization" that are working towards this goal as well (albeit _very_ quietly). It only makes sense.

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    Default Re: Comet Elenin Final Chapter Hoagland/Kerry etc

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    But that has got nothing to do with when and where we should be introduced to the rest of the family , so to speak ...

    Yes we would be in wonder at first (well some of us anyway) but in time we would come to accept and gain further knowledge and spiriual learning from these advanced civilisations ...I'm afraid it is inevitable that this will come , and in my opinion the sooner the better for all of mankind. We are advanced enough to

    Hey have a look at this video it will open your mind a little ... of course this is on a much smaller scale ... check out the sheer wonderment in their eyes!



    The PTB (PTW) have absolutely no right at all to withold this information (ET and life in the Universe) from us... in my opinion this is OUTRAGEOUS...to say the least ...

    Yes we need to give them (ET) permission for this...but many of us do...and many more each day...the tipping point is getting closer by the day...the only reason why many folk have freaked out is because the veil has been kept over us far too long...they have kept us in the dark (PTW)... Why? greed/selfishness/control ... This is the bigger picture Agape ... Dont be hoodwinked as the why Et should and should not do ... jump out of the show...thats all it is.

    What right do they have controlling our consciousness to this extent...they have not let us evolve...ET have hinted for years in the skies...They have really tried to awaken us but it has been almost impossible with the veil the ptw have on us...well almost!

    So you see, in my opinion we are ready ... is that not why we are here?

    It will be .... AND , HUMANITY WILL RISE

    viking


    Beautiful video , thank you Viking . No need to tell me about the 'big picture' , I try to look from all sides, yours as mine .

    The tabu cast over our heads has less and less power .


    Today I read in the news ..about the 'don't ask don't tell' gay policy has officially ended at midnight, for US army .


    See here : YouTube: Airman tells dad he is gay as ‘don’t ask’ policy disappears


    Thine little step forwards ..

    I had to smile and ask myself : IS IT VALID FOR US ETS AS WELL ? I mean 'us E.T.s' in human world ..
    We go by the same rule probably, tabuized so heavily, so 'don't ask don't tell ' ?


    How easy do you think it was ..for example and to this day ..to face it with human mum who expected she gave birth to another 'carbon copy' of herself and has no recall of anything extraterrestrial other than some blissful experiences ..

    then had a child who was growing up totally independent of what she said and told her at the age of 13 about 'being of another world ' ? What do you think she told me that time . She told me that I'm probably ill and need to get out of it fast and get back to my homeworks.

    She was protesting against each move I did ..spiritual or not . The 'model' she wanted to have it was not .

    How many other moms and dads and friends and teachers and students did I meet through my life , who fell in love with my face and tried to convince me I need to be as human as they are just to make it all feel silly because they were not ready ?

    And I did not know all the way along, I was not 'convinced' about anything , all I had was faint, discrete, 'spiritual' knowing of things that others did not have and some other unique abilities I still considered very human .

    I did not know till I had seen it all clearly and in gala huge way in front of my eyes for several hours ..which was eternity . Else I'd not believe it .
    I'd not give it a cent myself.


    Now again, to tell any authority ..and beg them, please ..I have something to give you , you need to do this and that ..to receive the knowledge .
    Do you think it's easy ?


    Oh you think there will be Ships and Space brothers and they'll come down to tell you straight away . You don't hear me then either ..why it does not fly so far .

    There are technical difficulties, biological discrepancies, time-space distortions that may seriously hurt one or both sides . Or simply distort the event .

    How fragile life is...remember ...like a blade of grass.



    How sensitive the situation is . You think 'we are not spiritual enough' . You are, we are . But this is not matter of who is more 'ascended' ,
    this is a matter of employing very sharp intelligence and great compassion for life at the same time .


    I believe you. I wish for the same . We all wish for the same but wishing is not enough ..someone has to do...




    Dobry Den Agape ...

    Thanks for your reply...I truly understand what you are saying...

    Well, a wish is the start ...in time we will get there.

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    Default Re: "In The US Navy Space Command And I Have Been To Elenin"

    It's very hard to say if this guy's story is genuine or not. Personally, I don't think he is a real 'space-pilot', but he definitely knows something.

    If I were to guess, I would say he has an inside source and this story is probably his cover. Therefore, I don't intend to question or demote it.

    But I am definitely interested in what he has to say, because many things make sense.

    Few years ago, I've made some serious efforts in researching the human-built 'flying saucers' and I reached the conclusion that they are absolute fact.

    Also, the NASA programs do look like a cover for something bigger.

    It's also plausible that the real space programs are led by the Air Force and Navy. We are a very militarized specie, after all. 'Anti-gravity' is a top-priority for any army because the capabilities of such crafts are endless.
    More to this point, Elenin's survey is under Navy's badge: http://secchi.nrl.navy.mil/STEREOorbit/C2010_X1.html (see: navy.military)

    Regarding 'Comet Elenin', this is definitely not an usual comet - if a comet at all. NASA gave it WAY too much attention, compared to any other comet that passed throughout our solar system in (NASA's) history. Hopefully, it's something that has to do with our true history - as the OP suggested.

    One more thing, 'Bluecoat' from the chani forum is a guy pretending to be CaptainS - the OP from godlike productions. He was labeled as fraud, spreading sci-fi stories, by the true OP from Godlike Productions. Don't mind him, is not the 'real deal'.

    The following pictures show a possible TR-3B or Flying triangle in flight:



    If the OP is right, then this one is used for bellow 200,000 ft. missions only - not designed for space travel.

    And here is the same type of craft or something pretty similar, during a night flight:

    Most definitely, man-made (in my opinion).
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    Default Re: Comet Elenin Final Chapter Hoagland/Kerry etc

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    Hi Truth ...I'm not confused at all mY freind

    First of all the PTB control all the main media tv stations/Magazines/Newspapers ect ect ...so in other words they are controlling 90% of all humans thought patterns...what most folk dont realize is that with all these controlling outlets thEy control the flow of our consciousness with the control of thought patterns...do you see what I mean? ... with this in mind how easy would it be to control the populations reality ... !! Think about it...

    In my opinion they have no right to control or withold information for the betterment of mankind... like I said they have witheld soooo much for only one reason ... CONTROL/GREED/SELFISHNESS ... ME ME ME!

    I do love all Truth ... but that does not stop me from being OUTRAGED by the shanangans of the ptw...

    viking
    the reason why they control consciousness is because it is supposed to happen that way. without that control on humanity's consciousness it would have expanded to rapidly, more than allowed by the divine (the creator(s) of the game). as i said before, only in other words, the controlling of humanity's consciousness by tptb is not the CAUSE but the EFFECT. if tptb hadn't done it it would have happened by other means but it would have happened because the universe goes like clockwork. there must be absolutely no way for human beings or ETs or anyone to speed it up or slow it down, and those beings with full connection to the creator who could easily have prevented all of the "negativity" and "control" know this, hence there's this quarantine and rule of noninterference in place here on earth. it will be lifted the moment consciousness expands into infinity. it's all part of the plan. nothing is a coincidence.
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    That would be all very well if there was actually a quarantine around Earth, but there is ample evidence that this so-called "quarantine" DOES-NOT_EXIST..

    Also, it seems as if TPTB are allowed unfettered access to technology well in advance of what we have, are allowed access to space, and seem to be allowed to BLOCK access to these things to the everyday person. And it seems their PROPAGANDA that they are somehow given permission to do this seems to be working - at least it is on you!

    You know what I think happened? I think, sometime in antiquity, god knows when, humanity was HOODWINKED into giving away its' power to people who were ultimately unworthy of having it.... And its' been a constant struggle by those members of humanity who rise above the everyday person to try and reclaim that power on behalf of the rest of humanity. It is happening, more people are waking up day by day, but it is a struggle that is not quite over yet..


    It's not about anyone saving us, it's about the universe giving us a boost up, so to speak.

    Think about it this way :

    You are short, and there is a tall fence you wish to climb over. There is no other way through the fence but to climb it, and no way that you can climb it unaided. You do not own a ladder.
    SOmeone else owns a ladder, and they will pass over the ladder to you so you may use it to climb the fence. It is still your responsibility to climb the ladder and get over the fence, as they are unable to help you climb the ladder.

    Personally, I think that some time in the future, the universe will "hand us a ladder" to "climb the fence". It will still be our responsibility to climb the fence, however. That it can be any other way , IMHO, I have trouble accepting given the extent of control the PTB exert over us at this time. And, to give legitimacy to the PTBs control over us in any way is not just offensive in my view, but utterly vile and repulsive to the highest degree....
    Hi Jcocks...My thoughts exactly...

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