Who Are the Powers That Be ?

[Bright Garlick]

Posted by another bob (here)
Greetings, Friend!

We often hear talk about "The Powers That Be", as if they represented some force external to us. When we realize, however, that there really is nothing external to us, nor internal to us, then the low-level play of light and shadow that characterize this dreamscape will no longer constitute grounds for disturbance. Our good friend Milarepa shared with us that whatever appears is mind. This is worth pondering. When we ponder our minds, we may at first see a lot of production based on various causes and conditions, but if we are persistent in our inspection, we may come to realize that there is nothing there. Mind itself is empty. There is no conspiracy, there are no secret rulers, there is nothing to channel or worship or oppose. Now, if we persist in this natural state of true meditation, where there is nothing to see or experience or know, then something very interesting can happen. Something inexpressible. Only then will we understand the absolute innocence of all creation, let go of the past/present/future, stop trying to figure things out, stop trying to make things happen, and relax, at rest, at peace.

Blessings!

Thanks Bob - although there are many groups within what some would could TPTB - some human, others alien - you have given us the best comment on this entire forum. The only one that makes sense and holds great weight.

The real issue is in the mind. When we realize emptiness, we see the illusory nature of all perception and all states of being. Impermanence at the core. As you will recall the great master said we must be a light unto ourselves.

Blessings to you my friend, Bright.

[Bright Garlick]

A quick suggestion folks. If you want to understand this subject without carrying someone elses baggage - go empty for a while and allow the heart to connect with something else. Don't cling so tightly to what others have demanded is the truth. Allow yourself to come to a place that is brimming with possibilities. Make sensio ?

[ponda]

Bright Garlick said:

If you want to understand this subject without carrying someone elses baggage

If you have come to similar conclusions on this subject to another person does this necessarily imply that you are carrying 'their' baggage ? Or that everyone who has similar opinions on something are all carrying everyone else's baggage ? I don't think so. I don't see anyone clinging to any demanded truth.It's all everyone's individual discernment imho.If what i have come to perceive as a 'possibility' is similar to another persons then so be it.It is possible imho for more than one person to perceive things the same way without any clinging or baggage carrying etc.

[treeman]

On the top tier of the wedding cake, in my opinion would be...(some of my top 15)
The Church, A Bank (eg. Bank of England, Deutsche Bank or Goldman Sachs) and the
Mistress in the shadows (A three letter agency - take your pick...they keep changing)
So I have, Religion, Money and a Thug.
I would show them compassion BUT would tell them to 'Close the door on their way out'.

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by Bright Garlick (here)
Sorry Lord Sidious - your understanding of TPTB is all wrong. Maybe you are thinking of other groups ruled by greed and stupidity but not the ones who make real decisions. I am afraid it isn't that black and white. If I told you some were ordinary people with families, who have no vested interest in control - that might shift how you see things. Might ?

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by CurtisW (here)
@Bright Garlick,

So what is your perspective on which parties are in control, and how their various agendas are playing out? I assume from your earlier statements you're not a believer that there is a monolithic PTB, but rather competing factions, some or all of which are not entirely 'bad.' So, how is it that you see these people? Where do you see the game playing out? What is it that you would like to share?

There isn't a monolith, not yet.
That is what a lot of the conflict we see is, the attempts by different factions to force control over the other factions.
View it like a political party and all the crap that goes on in the backrooms over who gets to run the show and who makes the policy.
They all want to be Napoleon, no one wants to be the ice cream guy.

I would say that we are talking at cross purposes then.
The people I speak of aren't gods, they are people who breed, like you say.
THE master is not.
Not ''normal'', not ''one of us'', not from ''here'' if you want details.

Posted by Bright Garlick (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
They are all working for the same master.
They have differing views on how things should be run and they all want to run it for themselves.

Same master no. One leader yes. Differing views yes. To run it for themselves - no. Some but not those with greatest control. Shared agreements.Cl

Again, you seem to speak of the earthly types, I do not speak of them alone.

Posted by treeman (here)
On the top tier of the wedding cake, in my opinion would be...(some of my top 15)
The Church, A Bank (eg. Bank of England, Deutsche Bank or Goldman Sachs) and the
Mistress in the shadows (A three letter agency - take your pick...they keep changing)
So I have, Religion, Money and a Thug.
I would show them compassion BUT would tell them to 'Close the door on their way out'.

At highest of these, would be either the church or the banksters, but they wouldn't be top rung.
I would put them at second, at highest.

[<8>]

hi..

It's quite obvious who got the most influence in this world, or should i say what families are the cream of the crop..(follow the trail of money)
This is hardly a mystery in my eyes, to reinforce that we also got the blood trail.
Not really a conspiracy if you try to keep things simple, it's just people with power who have made sure to keep that power and get more power in their family.
About the ET connection in to this, i suppose you can't rule out som have got influenced by ET to gain more power.

I'm sure these families considered themselves to be the "top of the food chain" and pat themselves on the back for job well done..

thanks...

[ceetee9]

Posted by Bright Garlick (here)
Hey Folks - yes it does seem that I am back for a while !

I thought I would pose the question to you - who do you really think The Powers That Be are ?

I ask this because I am soon going to be posting a series of entries on this subject on my blog. If you search there you'll find a basic intro.

I ask because it seems that many people have strange ideas about just who TPTB are. Most people think of them as a homogenous group of evil bastards hell bent on making us all suffer and I'm here to tell you that's all wrong. Some think what David Icke believes is true and I think it's a crock of ****. Few people either seem to be thinking through this by themselves and even fewer have knowledge of this subject from the inside. There seems to be a large number of people who believe they know who TPTB are and they tell elaborate stories of their experience with them.

I have spent a long time looking into this subject both personally and through a contact who worked for them. And my views seem to be at odds with everyone.

So 3 questions :
1. Who are they ?
2. What is it you think they have done or you think they do ?
3. Do you feel they deserve compassion and foregiveness or anger and persecution ?

Please note that for those of you who have an interest in the subject of disclosure, it is important you really examine this subject to understand why things are moving as they are.

Peace to all, Bright.

Great questions BG! Here is my take on it:
1. I have no idea who 'they' are, but I'll bet they aren't anywhere near or in the limelight. That is for the self-serving, ego-centric puppets they control.
2. I think they enslave human beings to satisfy their hunger for power and control. If they are very wealthy I believe it is more to provide a means to their power and control then it is to live like Gods among their minions and slaves.
3. I think they deserve compassion and forgiveness. They are lost souls who have missed the whole point of life (i.e., to love, learn and enjoy all the beauty of Creation). Punishment only serves to perpetuate the cycle of duality. The only way we will ever truly be free of this insane cycle is to end it.

[Bright Garlick]

If I could stress one thing. There are at least 5 arms of TPTB. Half of these are composed of aliens who have been here a long time. They are not interested in power or control - that's our issue (drop all David Ickey ideas !). One alien authorizes all big decisions.

Here's a heads up before I say a lot more :
http://lifeafteraliendisclosure.word...isclosure-day/ .



Life is. Everything else is a projection.

[norman]

ok, Bright G.

Your a considerate person. Great.

You're a blogger too. Not so great.

TPTB!...... sheesh"

( I don't care what anyone else has said on this thread, or even what you have adjusted ).

The powers that B are either a cryptic fraud or a fraudulent crypt. Take your pick. Both are adventurous. Both are a waste of time.

All anyone in my street wants to know is 2 things:

1) who's going to win

2) who's going to get out of here alive.

The answer to both of those cryptic V signs to you are:

NONE OF US!

[RMorgan]

Posted by Bright Garlick (here)
If I could stress one thing. There are at least 5 arms of TPTB. Half of these are composed of aliens who have been here a long time. They are not interested in power or control - that's our issue (drop all David Ickey ideas !). One alien authorizes all big decisions.

Here's a heads up before I say a lot more :
http://lifeafteraliendisclosure.word...isclosure-day/ .




Life is. Everything else is a projection.

Wow! That link is very interesting! Did you write it, right? So, you have a lot of thinks to share with us!

[Bright Garlick]

Hi Norman : We all win. We all get out alive. We all live, as we are doing now.
I like the idea of TPTB being a fraudulent crypt - what a wonderful play on words and I think they would be proud of your description of them !

V was a lot of fun in the 80's - but now so many people have taken it out of Hollywood !

Enjoy life Norman !

[norman]

Posted by Bright Garlick (here)
Hi Norman : We all win. We all get out alive. We all live, as we are doing now.
I like the idea of TPTB being a fraudulent crypt - what a wonderful play on words and I think they would be proud of your description of them !

V was a lot of fun in the 80's - but now so many people have taken it out of Hollywood !

Enjoy life Norman !

Cool, chuffed you got the gravity. Might make your blog swing a heavier clout. Good fortune to you. x

[Kano]

Posted by Bright Garlick (here)
If I could stress one thing. There are at least 5 arms of TPTB. Half of these are composed of aliens who have been here a long time. They are not interested in power or control - that's our issue (drop all David Ickey ideas !). One alien authorizes all big decisions.

Here's a heads up before I say a lot more :
http://lifeafteraliendisclosure.word...isclosure-day/ .





Life is. Everything else is a projection.

BG,

The one "alien" that 'authorizes all big decisions' sounds like a flesh(?) and blood(?) 3D entity. Is this correct? If so, then why the obsession with TPTB summoning dimensional beings who are ethereal, not 3D if the big boss man is here on Earth? Does the head decision making alien in turn answer to entities in higher dimensions?

[norman]

Here's a thing for your blog....

SAS... yer know...

In active duty, mission incomplete.

3 things.

Success

Failure

Survival.

Survival only works if you pull off success.

You might get a desk job, but that's only if they want you around after you ****ed up.

[truth4me]

In the 2nd part the guy talks about 1776 the founding of America.....Ok then we see Zion 2012 Olympics in London ....lets see 1776 to 2000 is 224 years then 2012 you add another 12 years ok......add hum....236 ok 2+3+6 humm...=11 ah....switch them around...3+6=9 +2= 11.....9/11 humm.....oh well .....

[Sidney]

Posted by jackovesk (here)
<snip>

• Off & On-World ET's
• Mystery Religions (Secret Knowledge)
• 13 Families
• Factions
• 3 Letter Agencies
• UN, Govt's & Vatican/Church
• Minions
• Minions Minions, etc..

I agree with this list. so basically, ET's (specifically reptilians) IMHO

[Mad Hatter]

Mad Hater dons his random cap,

Thanks for the thread BG as it has initiated some interesting dialouge...
You asked -

Posted by Bright Garlick (here)
So 3 questions :
1. Who are they ?
2. What is it you think they have done or you think they do ?
3. Do you feel they deserve compassion and foregiveness or anger and persecution ?

You did not request a perspective from which those questions should be answered as evidenced by the variation in responses.

So...from the perspective of one speck of an infinite field of conciousness...

1) Them, Us, Everything, Anything.
2) Anything that will further accelerate the discovery / understanding of that conciousness.
3) Take your pick as any will lead to further potential for understanding.

Having said that, it does leave me to speculate that along the road to infinity at some point full awareness by that field has or will be attained. Leaving it the choice of continuing to play variations on a theme ad infinitum or collapse into itself since full expression of that potentiality has been achieved and there is no further need for such a construct. ie Everything is already known.

From the above perspective my question then becomes "Why do you choose to care?" since an answer to such would indicate whether or not you feel we have reached the aforementioned tipping point of the 'process of discovery' vs 'already knowing' and thus identify if you believe you are truly seeking knowledge vs playing a bit part just for the hell of it.

Thus if TPTB are just playing the bit parts of sh!t stirrers the dynamic of your original questions shifts quite markedly, no?

cheers

Please resume normal programming...

[ViralSpiral]

G'day BG

Thank you so much for posting the link to your blog. Allowed me a better insight. A few mosquito bites deserved attention though.
As you say: "I am nobody special". Me three. Cerebral limitations too, so I speak from the heart......


The words activities/endeavours appear, and yet you say there is no agenda? Might be pure semantics and my misunderstanding however, to me abduction IS an agenda.
You poo-poo naysayers like Icke & Bassett. Do you have the whole "truth"? Can you not allow them the space to do what they do, like you are? Have they not made a difference? Don't the beings you meet with also only have their perspective?
I acknowledge that we, as a mass, are no-where near accepting who/what we are. I dont however, think that its up to you to decide what an individual can/cant know? I also accept that you say your life might be in danger should you reveal more. Why?!? I know the answer seems obvious. In my world benevolent = well meaning and kindly.
Is your role not also that of "disclosure"?


drip drip drip....



From my heart to yours, may all beings be free from suffering
kind regards
Natural Resource

[WEAREONE]

It is very surprising to me that the discussion is so strongly tied in to physical solutions/answers. It saddens me that the ideas of control and manipulation are so prominent in this discussion. Whatever the answers may be to the proposed discussion it is astounding to me that open minded forward thinking Avalon members are so stuck in the concept of life as a physical thing. I look forward to better days for all of us. I don't mean to sound so simplistic but the answer is simple. WEAREONE.

[nottelling]

Simplistic is good WEAREONE

Rather than spend a lifetime trying to unravel the mysteries and solve the riddles of exactly who TPTB might be so I can hunt them down and punish them for their crimes, I prefer to simplify things and ask myself what is their purpose?

Now here's where I go all child-like and new agey, so bear with me...

The Parable of the Little Soul and the Sun
By Neale Donald Walsch
Extracted From "Conversations With God" Book 3

”You may choose to be any Part of God you wish to be,” I said to the Little Soul. “You are Absolute Divinity, experiencing Itself. What Aspect of Divinity do you now wish to experience as You?”

“You mean I have a choice?” asked the Little Soul. And I answered, “Yes, You may choose to experience Any Aspect of Divinity in, as, and through you.”

“Okay,” said the Little Soul, “then I choose Forgiveness. I want to experience my Self as the Aspect of God called Complete Forgiveness.”

Well, this created a little challenge, as you can imagine.

There was no one to forgive. All I have created is Perfection and Love.

“No one to forgive?” asked the Little Soul, somewhat incredulously.

“No one,” I repeated. “Look around you. Do you see any souls less perfect, less wonderful than you?”

At this the Little Soul twirled around, and was surprised to see himself surrounded by all the souls in heaven. They had come from far and wide throughout the Kingdom, because they heard that the Little Soul was having an extraordinary conversation from God.

<SNIP>

The rest here: http://masterderyk.wordpress.com/200...l-and-the-sun/

In that context TPTB tend to shine in a different light.

Well, that's my opinion anyway. It may be a little simplistic and it doesn't involve, burning rage, sweet revenge or years of frenzied searching, but I prefer to put my energy into the positive rather than the negative. Energy does indeed flow where attention goes.