Hoaglands take on YU55 Nov 9th onwards...

[Eric J (Viking)]

Hmmmm... further information on HY55 where and when and what is it?!!

Is YU55 a ship? Will it smash into the Moon? ...who knows... but some interesting tid bits about the dates when YU55 is closest to Earth

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Xt5X2VrEYzI

viking

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks Viking interesting follow on to his awake and aware presentation...

Charles Boldens vid mentioned by Richard....

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=mk5sRmroG8s

He says he is concerned for possible terrorist/ natural disasters that his employees & family has a plan for readiness.......Never heard anything like this unless something is coming...

If its just a friendly be prepaired message seems odd that the boss should give it and not the safety or security offices !!!1

[RMorgan]

Oh no!!! Hoaxland strikes again!!!

Now that Elenin is gone, he found another comet to blame!! Will this never end?

[Tony]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ywZmQ2rg7GQ

[KosmicKat]

Posted by RMorgan (here)
Oh no!!! Hoaxland strikes again!!!

Now that Elenin is gone, he found another comet to blame!! Will this never end?

Someone who makes the bulk of their living from the alternative media has to keep the plates spinning somehow.

[Lazlo]

I said it earlier and I'll repeat it here.

Hoagland sounds good when giving an interview, but when you take the time to slog through one of his books, the magic wears off quickly.

After Elenin, Hoagland has now entered a special place that I have. It's also occupied by such fascinating people as Sorcha Faal.

[Forevernyt]

It's like asking a girl to dance...sooner or later one of them is going to say yes.

If he keeps plugging away, one day, he'll get it right and we'll hear a big " SEE I TOLD YOU SO!"

But then, who will be listening?

[Cidersomerset]

The fun thing I have not followed the Ellinin hullaballoo when it was on the way in.As you probably all know its not a comet but possibly some kind of 'controlled' object ?

in Richards opinion and its all based on 19.5 and as he says 'crunch the numbers' if it changes its trajectory, it must be being guided and its due around,11,11,11,.....

He has done a Wilcock and stuck his neck out.......But don't worry it won't impact earth but if it hits the moon will leave an explosion that cannot be missed and he is urging all

amatuer astronomers to watch out for this event... It was this time last year that David got suckered in by 'Someone' that Obama was about to disclose the existance of ET's.....So maybe they are

trying to set up Richard ! to put a dent in his credibility ! Better get your disaster and supply plan sorted !!!! As per Mr. Charles Bolden Head of NASA...

Anyway whatever happens I won't think anyless of you Richard, you are still a legend in my book.....Cheer Steve..

[Carmody]

well, the thing of it is, you see, that the debris trail is still with us.

And that space, as we know it, in this vicinity is actually a highly charged or pressured electrical potential. This is also involving 'differentials' in charge. This ends up flowing like a nearly pure voltage like MHD effect.

Like spritzing a bit of water mist between two probes that are about , oh, a foot apart but charged oppositely, to a potential difference of millions of electron volts. You'd weaken the static field resistance in the vicinity and get an arc strike, right in the misted area.

When it comes to energy differentials regarding being a medium of transfer, this (field change compared to the surrounding areas) can and will change amplitude and possibly acceleration and or frequency of any electrostatic waves in the vicinity of the debris trail.

Like a weak spot on a highly pressured balloon, we come to the point, finally, were something might happen, if indeed it is slated to happen.

so, in effect, the juncture of the earth going through the debris trail of elinin combined with the YU55 asteroid, these two can bring about changes in the pressured flow system of plasma pressure that is the fundamental of the solar system. We are electrostatically balanced, in a flow system that is in a state of highly charged pressure differential, via these immense charge fields.

Let me put it to you this way: everything that John Hutchison does to create the 'Hutchison effect', those are the conditions of the fabric of the universe, to the tune of 99% of it is this 'charged plasma'.

it's all about voltage, frequency, ionic factors (what ions and their interactions) and thus--- is a system in electrostatic balance. This force is a trillion, trillion, trillion (1 with 39 zeros) times stronger than gravity.

So the danger has not passed, it is actually now, regarding any potential for a CME to be directed toward us..via this incredible pressured system, and then a debris trail of bits..with their charge and what they took (absorbed charge-change) from the sun's vicinity.

A CME or flare that might erupt, if one does... and follow the path of least resistance, which is down the debris trail of Elinin.

which points right at us.

Then the YU55 or whatever, coming in sideways from that, with an altogether DIFFERENT charge potential, again.

Read the title article.

http://www.scientificexploration.org...science_09.pdf

I'm not scare mongering, I'm just sayin'. If there ever was any potential for anything to go sideways, that time is now.

This also plays out astrologically, as a 'rouge' alignment in that context, with unknown meanings.

I'm going to go about my day normally... so I'm not putting much stock in it, one way or another. But I'm saying that the case for potential issues is in the NOW, not the past, or what not.

For example, the alignments of elinin and earthquakes, this fits with the electric universe model. Now this comes along, regarding being a direct earth (involvement) situation, not just 'alignments'.

[Cidersomerset]

That maybe is what Charles Bolden is refering , if something happens he wants his staff in situe and not worrying where their dependants are.....

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=woyQb3CsbkI

It just happens to coinside with FEMA first nationwide emergency exersice....

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=d1aLaKyo9Jo

a bit 9/11 and 7/7 ish, ........Hopefully just a coincidence..

[Carmody]

http://www.scientificexploration.org...science_09.pdf

In this same indicated article, is also the observation of the mechanics of the Van Allen belts (as above, so below). However, the connection is not made in the article or even inferred. But it is there.

[Ba-ba-Ra]

Note my post of 10/28/11: US NAVY PREPARING HUGE TSUNAMI PREPAREDNESS EXERCISE FOR 11/9 & 10

Interesting date. Note on page 12, item #14 "In case of a real event happening during the exercise....."

I suppose since 911 & the London tube bombing both happening during an exercise event they now HAVE to include an item like this or..............!?!?!

http://unesdoc.unesco.org/images/002...14/211498e.pdf

[Cidersomerset]

I don't know how genuine this is ....

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=4hxFwykGC10

Richard did say this could be a scenario under certain circumstances...

Anyway I'l be going to work as normal so whatever will be will be.....

[GlassSteagallfan]

Wow! It might hit our 'hollow' moon. So, it will look like...

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Carmody (here)
So the danger has not passed, it is actually now, regarding any potential for a CME to be directed toward us..via this incredible pressured system, and then a debris trail of bits..with their charge and what they took (absorbed charge-change) from the sun's vicinity.

Your explanation makes a lot more sense to me - thanks Carmody.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
in Richard's opinion and it's all based on 19.5

1) It's actually 19.47º -- not 19.5º. This is just the simpler, rounded-up number. Hoagland in his Awake and Aware presentation was claiming that -- for instance -- one of the times of one of the many statistical dates, on the clock, for Elenin (can't remember offhand which one, but it showed up on the JPL website) was 19:50 hours.

Hoagland made that mean 19.5... whereas 19.5 hours would actually be 19 hours 30 minutes, i.e. half past seven. In fact, it should be 19.47 hours, which would actually be 19 hours 28 mins. This (and much more) illustrates the pattern-seeking of Hoagland's analytical process.

2) I ran Hoagland's Awake and Aware presentation numbers (there were a lot of numbers!) past a friend of mine, Professor of Applied Mathematics and Statistics at CalTech -- also present at the conference. He agreed with me that Hoagland does not properly understand mathematical probability.

3) Like David Wilcock, I consider Richard Hoagland a good friend. Here, he's simply way wrong, displaying way more Rorschach-test-thinking than anything reasonably rational. ( I did tell him that when I saw him!)

[onawah]

Thanks Bill. Is there any agreement in insider circles that Hoagland's theory is likely regarding Elenin being an artificial construct, purposefully guided by some sentient or AI source?

[Bill Ryan]

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Still listening to this as I write. If I ever thought that I knew that something staggeringly wonderful might possibly occur in a couple of weeks' time, I'd not say a thing.

If something wonderful happens, it happens -- and we'll all find out, and presumably benefit. There's not long to wait. This is not the same as giving a warning of a possibly damaging event -- which, however silly or misguided, is a basically responsible thing to try to do.

If I were to try to predict a wonderful imminent event, and then it happened just as I had predicted, what would have driven me would have been nothing but ego. Think about it.

Posted by onawah (here)
Thanks Bill. Is there any agreement in insider circles that Hoagland's theory is likely regarding Elenin being an artificial construct, purposefully guided by some sentient or AI source?

None that I'm aware of. And if they were, I would not believe them.

I'd assume, with excellent reason, that it was an attempt to discredit the messenger (in this case Hoagland). David Wilcock and Ben Fulford have recently been misinformed, and Hoagland may well be the next target.

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks Bill , I agree Whatever happens will happen , I don't normally go on these threads but I like Richard and if he's being set up for a fall, as I have already said...

I hope everyone will understand and accept, he is being genuine imho...cheers Steve

[Tony]

It is getting more and more difficult to know who to believe these days!