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    Default Re: Dutchsinse spells it out ... give it a listen.

    Thank You jjjones. . .

    You said many here on Avalon are preparing or prepared . . . . yes . . . but for what?

    I’m sure many have food, guns, water, emergency items and are sitting waiting for the hammer to drop

    It HAS dropped.

    A few emergency supplies for a few months or couple years a new life does not make.

    Yes I’m frustrated . . . .you say I’m impatient . . . . I’ve been at this for years.

    You ask the steps I have taken to start a new thriving life or how I have acted on the volumes of information . . . . .

    Here’s a few:

    Sold a thriving 75 acre organic farm in Kansas and retail shop . . . .and moved lock stock and barrel 850 miles to a severely economically depressed area (for very good solid reasons

    Divorced a husband that thought I had gone way off the deep end. The final straw was when I asked him if we were in martial law and troops pulled in to take us to the camps what would he do.? His answer . . .”If they give me a warm place to sleep and a couple meals a day I’d be on the truck.”

    I sold my 50% interest in a strong financial advising business that had 120 million under advisement, because I refuse to be a part of that evil system any longer. I went from a high 6 figure salary to now a very low 5 figure income . . . .on purpose.

    I have many things poised to start carving out truly a different life.

    But I need help. New thoughts. People who have intent and drive and serious and willing to step out on faith with what they believe.

    If we build it they will come . . . . but we have to build it first

    There is a thread that is active this evening on “A Future Earth”. That is all well and good and beautiful thoughts and dreams . . . .but if we don’t start now building it our future will never come

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    Thanks to all for your contributions here on this thread....most awake Americans are reeling from this....a week ago no one ever heard of this bill...now it is the law of the land...no more Bill of Rights...no more Posse Commatadus...93 senators violated their oathes of office...and nobody from Justice or Defence said a word !!! One would think The Supremes (court) would have spoken out...not with a ruling...but an opinion...that this S1867 bill is a violation of oath of office...but here in USA even if they remarked about it...MSM would not have said a word to the public...we have little free press here and no investigative reporters ....we've got Alex Jones, Jeff Rense ,Mike Rivero, Rayellan Alan, Fred Burks as alternative news gatherers...but they are few and far between..most citizens here never heard of them..
    .no...America deserves all the badmouthing that's coming it's way...we are apathetic since 9/11, we've had our cage rattled, and the fluoride is working...we are in a trance//
    What's even more scary...is it has penetrated all the way down to the local city level...the local paper won't talk about 9/11, chemtrails, smart meters, sheriff acting and operating like military, boondoggles like making Citrus County a port..(Tampa is 60 miles away!) who would use our county as a port? But the five richest landowners here want it...CAUSE THEY OWN THE LAND THE COUNTY HAS TO BUY TO MAKE A PORT !!!!....or...fixing a 40 year old nuclear plant that was supposed to be replaced 20 years ago...now they want half a billion up front from citizens...to patch it up for 20 more years...when I wrote them about thorium reactors...cheaper...safer...and a desal plant could run from the excess heat....the county wouldn't allow discussion...and the paper wouldn't print my piece on the waste and danger of trying to squeeze 20 more years out of the old uranium plant !!! LET'S FACE IT ITS OVER!!

    I fear for my home...my country and the world...and so does Dutchsinse...obviously !!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Thanks, Avalonians...for letting me rant....just an old man with too much time on my hands !!! LOL
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    Default Re: Dutchsinse spells it out ... give it a listen.

    I’m sorry Calz . . . . I have derailed your thread. . . .

    My blufire has been flamed to redhot.

    Could somebody just tell me if I’m way off base here?

    If so I’m out of here.

    If not . . . could somebody help me with a thread title that would actually get my ideas rolling . . .

    I can milk a cow but this internet stuff confuses the hell out of me.

    I can start a thread . . . but I still can’t even put peoples’ quotes in those little boxes . . . you know where they take one sentence out of your whole post and then tear the entire meaning to shreds.

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    Default Re: Dutchsinse spells it out ... give it a listen.

    A lot of struggle will come from a false economic collapse. Our lack of money is a joke. There is a win/win solution presented by Walter Burien, it's worth a listen:


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    Default Re: Dutchsinse spells it out ... give it a listen.

    Quote Posted by blufire (here)
    I swear I feel like I’m the only one on this forum that has actually done something of consequence.
    . . . . .
    errrm... healthy ego you have there...

    if you wan't something slightly more proactive I suggest www.atticus1.org but here or there you won't find what you want, it doesn't currently exsist that I know of.
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    Default Re: Dutchsinse spells it out ... give it a listen.

    Yep there ya go . . . . like that little gem . . . little box . . . one sentence. . . . tore down entire meaning



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    Quote Posted by blufire (here)
    I swear I feel like I’m the only one on this forum that has actually done something of consequence.
    . . . . .
    errrm... healthy ego you have there...

    if you wan't something slightly more proactive I suggest www.atticus1.org but here or there you won't find what you want, it doesn't currently exsist that I know of.

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    Default Re: Dutchsinse spells it out ... give it a listen.

    Like I said I dont believe it was our last burst. Theres plenty of fight yet.

    I started with the whole survival thing and then did a 180. For me its skills and community. What can I do for my communty. Not a love and light thing. But how can I help my neighbour practically.

    I am very lucky that my job alows me to help people. Which I am begining to understand can be an ego trap. But I made that choice a long time ago to help people over making money. I left a well paid private sector job to become a public servant. One of only two times in my life where I rolled the dice and went with my heart. All or nothing gamble. And it always works out. The scariest thing I ever did. And I can admit that I scraped through making lots of mistakes. Realy embaressing ones. Not trying to romanticise this.

    I work in a severely deprived area and you know what. There are amazing things happening there. On a list of "top ten places not to be. etc.." this is up there. But, in amongst all the drugs and violence are the most amazing people and stories. While all the drama here evolves around aliens, free energy etc. there are verifiable stories of human courage all around us. Just round the block. They just arent as exciting for the news. The human spirit, at the arse end of society just wants to be nice. Naturally.

    Want to feel empowered? Look at the massive effort it takes to push people down to this level. And we still bounce back.

    Just want to add that I have learnt far more from them and received more help than I could ever give to them. These are powerful souls.

    In a system designed to favour the rich and powerfull. Whoever is at the bottom is their worst enemy. Think about that next time you pass a beggar in the street.
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    Default Re: Dutchsinse spells it out ... give it a listen.

    Quote Posted by blufire (here)
    I’m sorry Calz . . . . I have derailed your thread. . . .

    My blufire has been flamed to redhot.

    Could somebody just tell me if I’m way off base here?

    If so I’m out of here.

    If not . . . could somebody help me with a thread title that would actually get my ideas rolling . . .

    I can milk a cow but this internet stuff confuses the hell out of me.

    I can start a thread . . . but I still can’t even put peoples’ quotes in those little boxes . . . you know where they take one sentence out of your whole post and then tear the entire meaning to shreds.
    You go girl

    I am just trying to get caught up with the last couple days of "activity".

    No need to start a new thread. All I did was post the vid.

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    Default Re: Dutchsinse spells it out ... give it a listen.

    Quote Posted by GlassSteagallfan (here)
    Senator Kirk speaks on the Feinstein Amendment No.1125:


    https://youtube.com/watch?v=LBsaePlbLJk

    Senator Kirk, R-IL, November 30, 2011, floor speech in support of the Feinstein amendment to S. 1867, the FY 2012 Defense Authorization bill. Amdt No.1125 clarified the applicability of requirements for military custody with respect to detainees of citizens apprehended within the borders of the united States. The amendment failed by a vote of 45-55.
    That would qualify as an EPIC FAIL!

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    Quote Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
    A lot of struggle will come from a false economic collapse. Our lack of money is a joke. There is a win/win solution presented by Walter Burien, it's worth a listen:

    Absolutely.

    The PTB/W have had their little "script" for many years where "they" collapse the world economy, start WW3, etc etc to cause so much misery that we all go crawling to them begging for them to make it all stop with the nwo "one world government".

    We need to keep that thought firmly in place as we can create our own "reality" or "order" out of the chaos.

    "They" have the advantage but chaos is a double edged sword that cuts both ways.

    Prepare for survival in the short term ... but keep your spirits up and don't surrender in the long term.

    No need to post the vid yet again ... just remember ... "It's all just a ride".

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    Quote Posted by aranuk (here)
    At least in the USA you have guns to protect yourselves. In most other countries we don't have them.

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    Yes, we do! "Ya feelin' lucky punk?"

    Not you Aranuk. Just the punks.

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    Quote Posted by Muzz (here)
    From the vid - "The nineteen sixties represented the last burst of the human being before it was extinguished."

    Wow. I dont believe its true, but that rang a bell in my head. As if this was an important warning. One that enough of us heeded.
    I was in the streets. Friends left there blood there. I had long legs, still do, and could outrun the porky's. We ended the draft and ultimately the war. We left more than a couple of bodies on campuses too. Pepper spray would have been kind.

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    Quote Posted by modwiz (here)
    Quote Posted by aranuk (here)
    At least in the USA you have guns to protect yourselves. In most other countries we don't have them.

    Stan
    Yes, we do! "Ya feelin' lucky punk?"

    Not you Aranuk. Just the punks.
    "Well ... do ya ... punk???"

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    Quote Posted by blufire (here)
    63 viewers . . . . . 20 members

    Spit it out . . . what is keeping us from taking that first step . . .

    Like the video on another thread where the little beagles stepped out of their cages on grass for the first time . . . . .
    21 years ago I started eating, buying and supporting organic foods. Agribusiness denied. I take no pharmeceuticals because of the excellent health derived from my diet. Drug cartel, denied. I eat no flesh. Satanic food raising, denied and depleted fisheries, denied I live in a tent and walk to work,play and meals for 6 months of the year. Oil companies denied. I watch no TV. A lot of propaganda and advertising and hence revenue for the station, denied. I drink my own untreated well water. My retardation, denied.

    This is just off of the top of my head. I am off of your poop list yet?

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    It's not over yet, as Obama still has the option to veto it.
    Quote Posted by Lefty Dave (here)
    a week ago no one ever heard of this bill...now it is the law of the land...

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    I’m sorry Calz . . . . I have derailed your thread. . . .

    My blufire has been flamed to redhot.

    Could somebody just tell me if I’m way off base here?

    If so I’m out of here.

    If not . . . could somebody help me with a thread title that would actually get my ideas rolling . . .

    I can milk a cow but this internet stuff confuses the hell out of me.

    I can start a thread . . . but I still can’t even put peoples’ quotes in those little boxes . . . you know where they take one sentence out of your whole post and then tear the entire meaning to shreds.
    Milking a cow is a useful skill. I like your priorities.

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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    It's not over yet, as Obama still has the option to veto it.
    Quote Posted by Lefty Dave (here)
    a week ago no one ever heard of this bill...now it is the law of the land...
    Some (Wilcock and Hoagland most visibly) held out high hopes for Obama.

    Most have lost such hope.

    I guess this week will be the telling sign then. One doesn't get a much clear opportunity to make a "statement" than this ...

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    Milking a cow is a useful skill. I like your priorities.
    blufire is walkin' the walk up in the mountains.

    She is all set for "whatever" and doing what she can to shake a little sense into as many more as she can while time still permits.

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    Quote Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
    Quote Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
    A lot of struggle will come from a false economic collapse. Our lack of money is a joke. There is a win/win solution presented by Walter Burien, it's worth a listen:

    Absolutely.

    The PTB/W have had their little "script" for many years where "they" collapse the world economy, start WW3, etc etc to cause so much misery that we all go crawling to them begging for them to make it all stop with the nwo "one world government".

    We need to keep that thought firmly in place as we can create our own "reality" or "order" out of the chaos.

    "They" have the advantage but chaos is a double edged sword that cuts both ways.

    Prepare for survival in the short term ... but keep your spirits up and don't surrender in the long term.

    No need to post the vid yet again ... just remember ... "It's all just a ride".
    It is just a ride and the big story is when the TSHF, don't panic. Even if you didn't plan make one then. Everybody suddenly doesn't have money? SO what! No work to distract and plenty of time to form useful collectives. What are supermarkets going to do with perishable goods? Set up representatives outside these places and wait for the stores to hand it out, then get ready to make a really big soup or stew. Nobody will have money so the gig is up. What will a supermarket do with all those canned goods on the shelf. Hold onto them for a short while until it sinks in......Nobody has money. It will be given away, as long as people do not get crazy.

    We need to know we are going to prevail. This is all a head fake. No money and lots of ammunition is not a good formula for the money changers. They will have to blink, or stop blinking all together.

    No doom and gloom. That is all in our heads. Mind your minds and keep it clean in there.

    The birth canal is coming up and it is going to be a squeeze. That is how births happen. Naturally, at least.
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    Default Re: Dutchsinse spells it out ... give it a listen.

    Blufire - I feel your frustration and understand exactly where you're coming from !

    I've spent years gradually unplugging myself from as much of the system as I can, and I've been searching all that time for a community that can sustain itsself, which isn't marginalised and which isn't full of spiritually arrogant types. I have yet to find one.

    So I'm just doing what I can and I know a lot of others here are doing the same. I have no words of wisdom for you, but as someone else said, just hang on in there girl, concentrate on the day to day matters which put you in touch with life, and enjoy every breath you take. We can't force people to wake up to what's going on, your ex-husband is a perfect example of what the majority are like - even when they're sitting in the concentration camp they'll probably believe it's for their protection.

    I admire what you've done, and I sincerely hope that everything works out well for you, you are not alone.

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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    It's not over yet, as Obama still has the option to veto it.
    Quote Posted by Lefty Dave (here)
    a week ago no one ever heard of this bill...now it is the law of the land...
    I won't hold my breath.....but I can hope...same as you. Thanks
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