David Wilcock calls James Martinez a hoax!

[Kristin]

Posted by mountain_jim (here)
It is neither clear nor obvious to me what is info or disinfo in this larger story. And I have been following Fulford, Wilcock, Chris Story, and White Hats reports of financial system corruption and from other multiple sources for years. Only the lawsuits filed are verifiable to me so far, all reports of nations agreeing to change financial systems still remain unproven based on what I have read, and many things Fulford has stated in past have not been proven either.

Agreed Jim, we need to wait this one out.
From the Heart,
Wormhole

I am also curious as to why the alternative media would be a place that these things would be plugged into... why?

[mountain_jim]

Well some things are evidence of financial changes going on - the news reports of china-japan not using dollars in their trade is one.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-1...order-view.htm

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China-Japan Currency Deal Points Way to New Monetary Order: View

By the Editors Dec 28, 2011 7:01 PM ET 6 Comments Q.

The agreement announced between China and Japan to strengthen financial ties and promote yuan-yen trade is a small, but notable, step toward a new global economy. Its immediate practical significance is limited, yet the deal signals that a deeper transformation is under way -- and one that the world should welcome.

The plan was a surprise: It marks a warming of relations that had been chilly of late. The accord still lacks a timetable for implementation, but once in force it will let Chinese and Japanese trading companies switch between yuan and yen without converting to dollars first. This will encourage commerce by reducing currency risk and trading costs.

The agreement will let a Japanese-backed institution sell yuan bonds in China, helping to open China’s capital market. In return, Japan will convert some of its foreign- exchange reserves into Chinese bonds. China has signed financial pacts with other nations, mainly in Asia, but the size of China-Japan trade -- $340 billion last year, and growing fast -- makes this deal the most important by far.

Warmer relations and short-term benefits for regional trade, though, are not the main reasons the agreement matters. China seeks a bigger role for its currency in global markets, and wants power in international forums that is commensurate with its economic might. The sooner its currency is fully convertible and its economy is open to global investment, the sooner this will happen.

[Jenci]

Posted by Wormhole (here)

Posted by mountain_jim (here)
It is neither clear nor obvious to me what is info or disinfo in this larger story. And I have been following Fulford, Wilcock, Chris Story, and White Hats reports of financial system corruption and from other multiple sources for years. Only the lawsuits filed are verifiable to me so far, all reports of nations agreeing to change financial systems still remain unproven based on what I have read, and many things Fulford has stated in past have not been proven either.

Agreed Jim, we need to wait this one out.
From the Heart,
Wormhole

I am also curious as to why the alternative media would be a place that these things would be plugged into... why?

To keep us distracted and looking away from other things??

Jeanette

[DreamsInDigital]

Posted by Wormhole (here)
I am also curious as to why the alternative media would be a place that these things would be plugged into... why?

Why wouldn't they? I think would be the more logical question. They haven't been much able to "get at us" so far, and the alternative thinkers are strong enough alone to overthrow them completely. SO why wouldn't they want to misdirect and take out as many as they could? Just the way the dark side operates.

[Kristin]

I was thinking along the same lines Dreams In Digital, We've got to be one hell of a litmus test for the PTB to test out reaction. We are intelligent and we are organizers. A lot of us are involved in Protests and our opinion matters... That being said, whatever the proposal is you can be rest assured that it will be combed out by us with fine teeth. I don't trust any of this, not one single bit. But I have an ear to hear and a heart to do what is right based on my own beliefs. We all do. It will be very interesting to see how this pans out.

Another thought, perhaps it's just by proxy that JS was asked to open up the lid a bit being he's connected in that way. Also, I do not think that it is strange at all that Kerry would say that her connections are crying Hoax and foul here... they are after all different people coming at this issue from differing perspectives. I would imagine that the lines are drawn and have been for some time with respect to this "idea" of "what" is to be done in the future. I'm concerned and paying attention.
From the Heart,
Wormhole

[aranuk]

Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)

Posted by Wormhole (here)
I am also curious as to why the alternative media would be a place that these things would be plugged into... why?

Why wouldn't they? I think would be the more logical question. They haven't been much able to "get at us" so far, and the alternative thinkers are strong enough alone to overthrow them completely. SO why wouldn't they want to misdirect and take out as many as they could? Just the way the dark side operates.

If we then start to debate who is telling the truth, are we not playing into their hands? Both stories are so similar, so why question them? Let us just see what will happen.

Stan

[Alie]

Posted by onawah (here)
Who are the "little people"?
The 99%, which is a much more respectful term!

I really didn't take offense to the expression, "little people". Probably because it has been said "the meek should inherit the earth"... And from the perspective of space or beyond (and beyond) ... we are certainly little people. Also, don't we all agree with this crazy??? idea ... "what's up is down...what's down is up", etc. Those, who think they are great, are not.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

From Ben Fulford, 9 January 2011:

The Feds have sued for peace and detailed settlement negotiations have begun

The 130-nation group that announced a new financial system through the Conscious Media Network on January 1st also contacted the White Dragon Society and said they will prove with action, and not words, that they represent extremely powerful interests. This writer initially, and apparently incorrectly, denounced the announcement as a psy-ops because this group was not identical to the 117 nation Monaco group previously reported about in this newsletter.

I wonder if David Wilcock, who wrote:

THIS IS A HOAX. I am now in direct contact with the top people organizing the 122-nation alliance we have been speaking of, as a consequence of getting deeply involved in investigating and writing about the lawsuit -- and they told me this story is not true.

...will also post a retraction.

All I can say personally about the James Martinez statement is that (a) James is a good man, (b) he was not knowingly hoaxing anything, and (c) there was not enough information in his statement to make any early judgment about its authenticity.

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

More here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...706#post398706

[charlesfrith]

Hi Bill, I'm very grateful that you pointed me towards the Martinez interview. It's first class. Thank you.

[Cidersomerset]

Hi All I have just listened to James latest 5th jan show , remember his main job is a financial advisor the first half concerns this
so unless you want to hear that ,go to 30mins and listen to what he is talking about then, I think he's a genuine
good man and intelligent and expert in the fields of media and communication using todays tech.....
Its interresting stuff and he knows whats happening !!!
He plays a clip by CIA agent Robert Steel who he is going to have on as a guest on a upcoming show..Steve

http://www.achieveradio.com/archplay...-Cash_Flow.mp3

[sojorner]

Posted by aranuk (here)

Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)

Posted by Wormhole (here)
I am also curious as to why the alternative media would be a place that these things would be plugged into... why?

Why wouldn't they? I think would be the more logical question. They haven't been much able to "get at us" so far, and the alternative thinkers are strong enough alone to overthrow them completely. SO why wouldn't they want to misdirect and take out as many as they could? Just the way the dark side operates.

If we then start to debate who is telling the truth, are we not playing into their hands? Both stories are so similar, so why question them? Let us just see what will happen.

Stan

I agree.. they are so similar, one could even say they validate each other.. So time will tell.....

Soj

[Unified Serenity]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

From Ben Fulford, 9 January 2011:

The Feds have sued for peace and detailed settlement negotiations have begun

The 130-nation group that announced a new financial system through the Conscious Media Network on January 1st also contacted the White Dragon Society and said they will prove with action, and not words, that they represent extremely powerful interests. This writer initially, and apparently incorrectly, denounced the announcement as a psy-ops because this group was not identical to the 117 nation Monaco group previously reported about in this newsletter.

I wonder if David Wilcock, who wrote:

THIS IS A HOAX. I am now in direct contact with the top people organizing the 122-nation alliance we have been speaking of, as a consequence of getting deeply involved in investigating and writing about the lawsuit -- and they told me this story is not true.

...will also post a retraction.

All I can say personally about the James Martinez statement is that (a) James is a good man, (b) he was not knowingly hoaxing anything, and (c) there was not enough information in his statement to make any early judgment about its authenticity.

Just wanted to bump this thread cause I know so many are waiting on the next release of data cause DW is the go to guy apparently.

[Aryslan]

I see Mr. Ego is still at it. Davie really should stick to his love and light schtick, he's getting too big for his britches.